Eddie's on borrowed time

[Woodleyclaret]

Newcastle United dodgy owners have apparently told Eddie a top finish is the expected outcome from all the money they are throwing at the Toon.Anything less and Eddie and Jason are gone.

[ClaretInLeeds]

Finishing top is a bit unrealistic.

[martin_p]

I expect the number 4 is missing from the post. If it isn’t then yes, unrealistic.

[claretonthecoast1882]

Have they really spent that much compared to other clubs at the top ?

[Claretmisterg]

Top 4 a real possibility for Newcastle this season I would say.

[Burnley1989]

You'd expect they will be challenging top 2-3, cant see anyone outdoing City

[jdrobbo]

I think Newcastle could make things very interesting around the top four this season, but Aston Villa might be the team to watch out for.

[rufus lumley]

And newly promoted Burnley.

[ClaretTony]

They were comfortably top four last season and being in the Champions League will now allow them to spend more within FFP. I would be surprised if they weren't top four again this coming season.

[MDWat]

They’ll be nowhere near top 4 this season imo

[Ampth7]

I suspect Newcastle will struggle for top 4 this season. City and Arsenal will be hard to beat again and I think United are back on the rise with Liverpool and Chelsea no doubt wanting to make up for last years disastrous season. No easy task breaking into the top 4 on a regular basis.

[Bordeauxclaret]

I wonder if they might struggle to adapt to all the extra big midweek games.

[GodIsADeeJay81]

Top 4 should be a minimum
They've also got to get used to European games midweek and as we saw with west ham last season it can, and does, take a toll on teams.

They should also be expecting another cup final appearance.

There's a belief that Eddie was the stepping stone manager.
He's taken them up a level but that was to lay the foundations for the next manager after him, one of a higher quality.

Personally I feel he deserves time, it took City a few years to win their first PL title after the takeover and even longer before they won a CL and even that took billions of spending.

Eddie has done a very good job and his signings have been good.
It takes time to increase the quality of a squad so it can challenge for a title regularly

[Jakubclaret]

They were comfortably top four last season and being in the Champions League will now allow them to spend more within FFP. I would be surprised if they weren't top four again this coming season.

They'll be knocking on the door again, not much has changed to massively weaken or strengthen the case.

[fidelcastro]

They’ll be nowhere near top 4 this season imo

What are you basing that on?

[Socrates]

Have they really spent that much compared to other clubs at the top ?

Newcastle’s spending hasn’t been given the focus it deserves.

Tonali £60 mill
Barnes £38 mill
Isak £60 mill
Gordon £40 mill
Botman £30 mill
Wood £20 mill
Pope £10 mill
Targett £15 mill
Guimares £35 mill
Willock £25 mill
Tripps £10 mill
Burn £10 mill

Near £400 mill there with not many outgoings.

[Tricky Trevor]

Top season last year but hard to follow up.
City, Utd, Lpool & Arsenal top 4 for me.

[ElectroClaret]

I think they've a good chance of a top 4 finish.
And bear in mind there's over a month left in the transfer window (closes September 1st) to bolster their squad.

And yes, that's the case for every PL club, but not many have the resources of Newcastle.
Depends on how EH spends it, i suppose.

[maccclaret]

Newcastle’s spending hasn’t been given the focus it deserves.

Tonali £60 mill
Barnes £38 mill
Isak £60 mill
Gordon £40 mill
Botman £30 mill
Wood £20 mill
Pope £10 mill
Targett £15 mill
Guimares £35 mill
Willock £25 mill
Tripps £10 mill
Burn £10 mill

Near £400 mill there with not many outgoings.

There’s talk that they’re having to offload AS-M to stay within FFP.

Their spending has probably gone unremarked because they’re not yet on the gossip radar of the papers still in thrall to the “traditional” “Big 6”.

[GodIsADeeJay81]

They have the ability to spend big thanks to Mike Ashley's financial running of the club.
I know it's an unpopular opinion in some quarters, but his refusal to run the club at a loss all the time has meant the current owners have more room to spend and still remain within FFP

[Lancasterclaret]

Eddie and Jason did amazingly well with them last year, but they were undoubtedly helped by Spurs, Chelsea and Liverpool all being gash

Going to be a struggle this year, though I think Tonali is a terrific signing

[JarrowClaret]

They'll be knocking on the door again, not much has changed to massively weaken or strengthen the case.

I think Champions League will massively hinder them whilst they are still in it. I am expecting them to drop off maybe towards top 10 / mid table area although I do think they will finish strong.

[Cooclaret]

I’m going:

1. Chelsea
2. Man City
3. Liverpool
4. Arsenal
5. United
6. Villa
7. Newcastle

[gawthorpe_view]

I'm not convinced Eddie has what it takes to move Newcastle up to the next level.
Time will tell though.

[Spijed]

To get round FFP what's to stop a saudi club paying vastly over inflated transfer fees for a few of their players?

[Jakubclaret]

I think Champions League will massively hinder them whilst they are still in it. I am expecting them to drop off maybe towards top 10 / mid table area although I do think they will finish strong.

Possibly it depends how long they are in the competition & more importantly who they sign now before the window shuts, I don't think arsenal will do as well as last season so I'm kind of ruling them out of the top 4 & adding Newcastle in their place.

[arise_sir_charge]

Another dynamic I’m interested to seen at Newcastle is how long Pope can last the pace. I think that now they are CL there could come a point where they need a ball playing keeper and the pressure will build. Just one to keep an eye on.

[dermotdermot]

I’m going:

1. Chelsea
2. Man City
3. Liverpool
4. Arsenal
5. United
6. Villa
7. Newcastle

Really?

[NottsClaret]

I wonder if they might struggle to adapt to all the extra big midweek games.

It's a good point this, Newcastle had a huge advantage last season from not playing European games. Arsenal sort of half heartedly got to the last 16 of the Europa. Now both are in the Champions League, if they make any sort of progress it'll be far more challenging for them.

Not that it will hold Newcastle back long term. They're just a few years behind City but they'll be winning everything soon enough, but not with Eddie in charge I'd guess.

[ClaretTony]

To get round FFP what's to stop a saudi club paying vastly over inflated transfer fees for a few of their players?

That’s exactly what a lot of people believe is the case with ASM.

[GodIsADeeJay81]

They're not paying much for ASM though, undervalued if anything

[ClaretTony]

They're not paying much for ASM though, undervalued if anything

Not the figures I saw - was around £30m

[Cooclaret]

Really?

Really!

[Claretnick]

I doubt Eddie will be losing much sleep about it.
He has done a great job there and he probably will never need to work again if he is moved along.

[claretonthecoast1882]

You can get 18s on Chelsea winning the league, quite surprised at that I thought the would be 50s and above

[Swizzlestick]

I said when the new owners took over that Howe would be potted as soon as a ‘glamour name’ manager came available despite EH’s record. Still think this will happen. Might even stick a few quid on him going first as a (very) outside bet.

[MDWat]

What are you basing that on?

They’ve only really strengthened by bringing Tonali in. They still have Dan Burn galloping around at left back.

Loads more games.

Chelsea, Liverpool, Man Utd have strengthened. Spurs have no European games.

Think they’ll finish about 8th.

Could be completely wrong of course, just don’t see them challenging for the top 4

[warksclaret]

Eddy has grown in stature and credibility at Newcastle-however I always feared that one day they might like an international big hitter. For England that would be great news as I think he would make a top, top national team manager. I suspect playing in the Champs League will have its impact, as we well know

[bf2k]

They’ll be nowhere near top 4 this season imo

I agree with this. European football and a relatively small squad (quality terms) will be a challenge for them. You don't just throw money at a team and expect to instantly challenge. It's small steps forward...look at City.

[CaptainKirk]

Another dynamic I’m interested to seen at Newcastle is how long Pope can last the pace. I think that now they are CL there could come a point where they need a ball playing keeper and the pressure will build. Just one to keep an eye on.

They can have one of ours for £50m

[Suratclaret]

To a certain extent, most managers could be said to be on borrowed time in that owners and the board(and fans) demand improvements leading to some success and when that’s achieved, even greater success is expected. If there’s no real improvement or success, the reaction is swift and another manager bites the dust. That’s one of the reasons that some managers are sacked after relatively few games.

[GodIsADeeJay81]

Not the figures I saw - was around £30m

3yrs left on his contract.
Was valued at £70 million in 2021 when other clubs were wanting him and Newcastle wanted to scare them off.

£30 Million is undervalued

[LeadBelly]

Top 4 this year is a tough call for Toon. City and Arsenal remain v strong; Man United on the up now, Chelsea wont have another duff season and Liverpool will almost certainly improve on last year's performances.
Added to this they have European games to take on board.

It'll be an excellent effort (and a feather in EH's cap) if they finish 4th.

[Bordeauxclaret]

3yrs left on his contract.
Was valued at £70 million in 2021 when other clubs were wanting him and Newcastle wanted to scare them off.

£30 Million is undervalued

I think he’s massively overrated and Newcastle were a far better side when he wasn’t in it last season.

[quoonbeatz]

Agreed, total show pony

[ClaretTony]

3yrs left on his contract.
Was valued at £70 million in 2021 when other clubs were wanting him and Newcastle wanted to scare them off.

£30 Million is undervalued

£30m is way above his worth - who on earth values him at £70m.

[ClaretTony]

I think he’s massively overrated and Newcastle were a far better side when he wasn’t in it last season.

Couldn’t agree more and the manager had sussed that.

[bobinho]

Eddies been on borrowed time up there for quite some time really. In my humble opinion, he was installed to stave off relegation, and only their excellent showing last season prevented him from making way for a big big name.

Newcastle (like Leeds) have the potential to be big players when funded right and managed properly. Right now, Newcastle are funded properly. They will want massive results for the level of investment. They are setting their stall out whilst alerting any potential new managers there’s a job coming up.
Time will tell whether Leeds are on the up. Maybe their American backers will help them the same way ours have moved us forward. Hopefully not but that’s just a personal thought….

[Vegas Claret]

They wont finish top 4 if they play like they did last night against Chelsea

[Swizzlestick]

I’m sure the ASM consensus is correct but every time I saw him he was ******* electric admittedly didn’t see a lot of his games.

Dunno, there was the usual ‘foreign lad lazy, British lad good, hard worker’ article by the local NUFC reporter on Twitter about ASM and Harvey Barnes. Main theme was that Barnes would put in the hard yards running back, but pretty much all the Leicester fans were saying that wouldn’t be the case with him. Intrigued to see how he gets on.

I’ll be sad to see ASM go as he’s an entertainer but not against us tbf.