Boxing *** Spence V's Crawford ***

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Boxing *** Spence V's Crawford ***

Post by equinox » Sat Jul 29, 2023 5:49 pm

Pound for pound ranked 1and 2 in the World going head to head tomorrow morning, should be a classic.

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Post by JLR81 » Sat Jul 29, 2023 5:51 pm

Really up for this.

We've been starved of super fights, so feel boxing needs this one.

Spence will probs go after him quickly but I'm thinking Crawford to stop Spence in 9th 10th or 11th.

Don't think it'll be on-the-floor KO, but ref to step in and stop the fight.

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Post by Fez » Sat Jul 29, 2023 5:54 pm

equinox wrote:
Sat Jul 29, 2023 5:49 pm
Pound for pound ranked 3rd and 4th in the World going head to head tomorrow morning, should be a classic.
**

Goes the distance for me, can't pick a winner though, should be a cracker.

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Post by KellyClaret » Sat Jul 29, 2023 5:58 pm

equinox wrote:
Sat Jul 29, 2023 5:49 pm
Pound for pound ranked 1and 2 in the World going head to head tomorrow morning, should be a classic.
Who's got them ranked pound for pound one and two?

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Post by equinox » Sat Jul 29, 2023 5:59 pm

I can't call this one, not even going to attempt to.

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Post by equinox » Sat Jul 29, 2023 6:00 pm

KellyClaret wrote:
Sat Jul 29, 2023 5:58 pm
Who's got them ranked pound for pound one and two?
The pound for pound shop near Asda.
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Post by Fez » Sat Jul 29, 2023 6:01 pm

KellyClaret wrote:
Sat Jul 29, 2023 5:58 pm
Who's got them ranked pound for pound one and two?
Nobody that's why I corrected him :lol:

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Post by fatboy47 » Sat Jul 29, 2023 6:07 pm

https://www.dailystar.co.uk/sport/boxin ... e-30578504

Pity the Furys etc can't show this sort of respect for the sport.

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Post by Shaggy » Sat Jul 29, 2023 6:21 pm

Crawford is better than Spence in every department. It will start slow and once Bud figures him out it will be a comfortable win either on points or late stoppage.

Spence doesn’t do anything flashy just grinds his opponents down with his physical size and strength.

I’m Of the opinion a pre GGG Kell Brook would have beaten Spence by a few rounds.

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Post by equinox » Sat Jul 29, 2023 6:49 pm

Shaggy wrote:
Sat Jul 29, 2023 6:21 pm
Crawford is better than Spence in every department. It will start slow and once Bud figures him out it will be a comfortable win either on points or late stoppage.

Spence doesn’t do anything flashy just grinds his opponents down with his physical size and strength.

I’m Of the opinion a pre GGG Kell Brook would have beaten Spence by a few rounds.
Brave call based on not much:

'Spence doesn’t do anything flashy just grinds his opponents down with his physical size and strength'.

:o

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Post by Fez » Sat Jul 29, 2023 6:56 pm

Spence is one of the best in the sport at applying constant pressure. Crawford has the ability to work on either foot and his jab is phenomenal.

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Post by SammyBoy » Sat Jul 29, 2023 6:59 pm

I’m thinking potentially a late stoppage by Spence.

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Post by IanMcL » Sat Jul 29, 2023 7:29 pm

KellyClaret wrote:
Sat Jul 29, 2023 5:58 pm
Who's got them ranked pound for pound one and two?
Local butcher?

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Post by KRBFC » Sat Jul 29, 2023 8:05 pm

Shaggy wrote:
Sat Jul 29, 2023 6:21 pm
Crawford is better than Spence in every department. It will start slow and once Bud figures him out it will be a comfortable win either on points or late stoppage.

Spence doesn’t do anything flashy just grinds his opponents down with his physical size and strength.

I’m Of the opinion a pre GGG Kell Brook would have beaten Spence by a few rounds.
Lol

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Post by ClaretsPadiham » Sat Jul 29, 2023 8:15 pm

equinox wrote:
Sat Jul 29, 2023 6:49 pm
Brave call based on not much:

'Spence doesn’t do anything flashy just grinds his opponents down with his physical size and strength'.

:o
:lol: :lol: :lol:

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Post by Shaggy » Sat Jul 29, 2023 9:32 pm

See the experts come up with a very compelling reply.

Skills pay the bills and Bud Crawford is has a lot more tools than Spence. Spence is a volume puncher who’s a bit of a tank at the weight. That’s his game of that doesn’t work he’s lost as he has no other method of fighting.

Brook shown that Spence could be outboxed.

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Post by jrgbfc » Sat Jul 29, 2023 9:35 pm

One for the purists this I think. Sad state of affairs that Tommy Fury fighting Jake Paul had more hype and attention than this one.

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Post by Shaggy » Sun Jul 30, 2023 5:10 am

KRBFC wrote:
Sat Jul 29, 2023 8:05 pm
Lol
:lol: :lol: :lol:

How did that work out for you? I was right with the Usyk Aj call and right with the Bud Crawford one too. Wasn’t even close.

I know my boxing you clearly don’t.
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Post by Elbarad » Sun Jul 30, 2023 5:11 am

Total beat down by my hometown guy. Crawford is so good.

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Post by steve1264b » Sun Jul 30, 2023 5:13 am

"one sided drubbing" says the commentator.

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Post by Shaggy » Sun Jul 30, 2023 5:19 am

The fight was over from R2 when Crawford got his timing.

Not even close, Spence is a basic boxer who’s a tank at the weight.

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Post by Squazo » Sun Jul 30, 2023 9:02 am

fair to say Kell brook was beating Spence on all the judges cards until his eye popped. that GGG fight ruined brooks career

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Post by Shaggy » Sun Jul 30, 2023 9:24 am

Squazo wrote:
Sun Jul 30, 2023 9:02 am
fair to say Kell brook was beating Spence on all the judges cards until his eye popped. that GGG fight ruined brooks career
If Brook had faced Spence before that GGG fight he would have won. He had the beating of him, was timing him nicely and was equally as big and strong. His gas tank let him down coming back down 2 weight classes and the mental damage after his eye socket fracture.

Brooks biggest enemy was sometimes himself. His gas tank went in the first Carson Jones fight another one he was comfortably leading early doors.

Spence gets so much hype because he gave Mayweather a black eye in sparring. He hasn’t had any real stand out wins, he’s just too basic for the real elite in their prime. Anyone who knows boxing could see that Crawford was the guy with all the tricks and tools.
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Post by KRBFC » Sun Jul 30, 2023 5:43 pm

Shaggy wrote:
Sun Jul 30, 2023 5:10 am
:lol: :lol: :lol:

How did that work out for you? I was right with the Usyk Aj call and right with the Bud Crawford one too. Wasn’t even close.

I know my boxing you clearly don’t.
Crawford is likely p4p top 5 of all time, a generational talent. I think most people felt he would win but saying Spence does nothing special is just pure spiel.

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Post by equinox » Sun Jul 30, 2023 6:25 pm

Give him his due, he called it spot on.

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Post by Burnley1989 » Sun Jul 30, 2023 6:56 pm

Squazo wrote:
Sun Jul 30, 2023 9:02 am
fair to say Kell brook was beating Spence on all the judges cards until his eye popped. that GGG fight ruined brooks career
I was lucky enough to be ring side sat next to Frampton that night, he looked special but I fully expected Bud to win.

He is P4P by a mile

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Post by JohnMac » Sun Jul 30, 2023 8:10 pm

Spence's face looked like a Mandrill's bum from round 2 onwards. Absolute masterclass by Crawford.

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Post by Shaggy » Sun Jul 30, 2023 9:40 pm

KRBFC wrote:
Sun Jul 30, 2023 5:43 pm
Crawford is likely p4p top 5 of all time, a generational talent. I think most people felt he would win but saying Spence does nothing special is just pure spiel.
Not wearing that one at all.

You can have a different opinion that’s fine but if you think Spence is anything other than a Jab 1-2 basic robotic boxer then you don’t know what your watching.

His physical size and clever matchmaking has carried him through so far, first time he ran into an elite boxer who wasn’t on the slide or damaged he’s got smashed.

I’m not saying Spence is poor just basic. He does the basics well but that’s it. There’s no active defence, the feet are slow, no pull counters. It’s jab, 1-2s high guard and walk opponent down. Once trapped his opponent he unloads in volume, no accuracy or fancy shots, just clubbing hits.

That was never going to work against Crawford who is much better in every department and has much more 1 shot power than Spence.

If Spence is stupid enough to rematch Crawford even at 154 then it ends quicker next time.

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