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Mainz v Clarets

Post by RVclaret » Sat Aug 05, 2023 1:39 pm

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Re: Mainz v Clarets

Post by Newcastleclaret93 » Sat Aug 05, 2023 1:40 pm

Got to think that’s close to our starting eleven vs city

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Re: Mainz v Clarets

Post by Conroysleftfoot » Sat Aug 05, 2023 1:40 pm

Rather concerned no sign at all of Cullen or Benson.
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Re: Mainz v Clarets

Post by matttheclaret » Sat Aug 05, 2023 1:40 pm

No Townsend. Also Benson and Cullen still out

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Re: Mainz v Clarets

Post by wilks_bfc » Sat Aug 05, 2023 1:40 pm

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Re: Mainz v Clarets

Post by RVclaret » Sat Aug 05, 2023 1:40 pm

No Cullen which is a concern. Weghorst and Townsend the other 2 main omissions.

Excited to see some more of Koleosho.

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Re: Mainz v Clarets

Post by Pickles » Sat Aug 05, 2023 1:42 pm

I've thought Redmond would play a little deeper and centrally and not as a winger. Looks like that could happen today next to Brownhill and Gudmundsson.

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Re: Mainz v Clarets

Post by Rileybobs » Sat Aug 05, 2023 1:42 pm

Would be a surprise to see Koleosho start on Friday but who knows.

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Re: Mainz v Clarets

Post by jrgbfc » Sat Aug 05, 2023 1:42 pm

Centre mid looks a big problem without Cullen.

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Re: Mainz v Clarets

Post by Newcastleclaret93 » Sat Aug 05, 2023 1:44 pm

jrgbfc wrote:
Sat Aug 05, 2023 1:42 pm
Centre mid looks a big problem without Cullen.
I agree

It looks very weak for a premier league side.

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Re: Mainz v Clarets

Post by spt_claret » Sat Aug 05, 2023 1:47 pm

RVclaret wrote:
Sat Aug 05, 2023 1:40 pm
No Cullen which is a concern. Weghorst and Townsend the other 2 main omissions.

Excited to see some more of Koleosho.
Costelloe over Weghorst tells me Weghorst's 100% being sold or loaned out. Still think that's a shame as I think in this system under Kompany he'd be very good for us- he's better than Barnes at everything Barnes did in that role, as much as Ash is by far the bigger club hero.

Not sure what to make of Townsend's absence but I suspect we're probably not going to sign him either, especially with Daramy coming.
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Re: Mainz v Clarets

Post by dermotdermot » Sat Aug 05, 2023 1:47 pm

I’m worried that we’ve seen the last of Benson.

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Re: Mainz v Clarets

Post by Pickles » Sat Aug 05, 2023 1:49 pm

jrgbfc wrote:
Sat Aug 05, 2023 1:42 pm
Centre mid looks a big problem without Cullen.
Absolutely. I think it looks a problem even with Cullen to be honest.

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Re: Mainz v Clarets

Post by CFS » Sat Aug 05, 2023 1:49 pm

dermotdermot wrote:
Sat Aug 05, 2023 1:47 pm
I’m worried that we’ve seen the last of Benson.
From what I've heard (could be gash) but arsenal want him but that's a loan with a view to buy.

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Re: Mainz v Clarets

Post by Hedontplayforyou » Sat Aug 05, 2023 1:50 pm

Imagine us loaning out one of our game changing players .

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Re: Mainz v Clarets

Post by jrgbfc » Sat Aug 05, 2023 1:50 pm

I know they always hammer us anyway but you have to worry what City will do to us on Friday if we line up with a midfield like that.

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Re: Mainz v Clarets

Post by RVclaret » Sat Aug 05, 2023 1:51 pm

Benson has been injured. Players get injuries.

As for central midfield, let’s hope the Lokonga deal is a close as made out.

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Post by Hedontplayforyou » Sat Aug 05, 2023 1:52 pm

Cullen and Benson clearly not fit . Lokonga on the verge of singing and the likelyhood of us playing someone in the midfield at times who isn’t a natural central midfielder as JBG has and is doing and how it seems before kick off that redmond may well do as well. Think that’s how we will roll this season especially if Ramsey joins as well.

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Re: Mainz v Clarets

Post by willsclarets » Sat Aug 05, 2023 1:53 pm

That midfield would give me the shivers against man city. Vranxs would've been superb as well as lakonga, shame.

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Re: Mainz v Clarets

Post by Newcastleclaret93 » Sat Aug 05, 2023 1:53 pm

RVclaret wrote:
Sat Aug 05, 2023 1:51 pm
Benson has been injured. Players get injuries.

As for central midfield, let’s hope the Lokonga deal is a close as made out.
Lokonga and Ramsey.

Looking at that team, I am certain Ramsey is being brought in to play Centre mid. If Gudmundsson is playing there then likely Ramsey woll play that slot

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Re: Mainz v Clarets

Post by Pickles » Sat Aug 05, 2023 1:54 pm

Newcastleclaret93 wrote:
Sat Aug 05, 2023 1:53 pm
Lokonga and Ramsey.

Looking at that team, I am certain Ramsey is being brought in to play Centre mid. If Gudmundsson is playing there then likely Ramsey woll play that slot
And Redmond too, got a hunch he'll play there but could be wrong.

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Re: Mainz v Clarets

Post by Hedontplayforyou » Sat Aug 05, 2023 1:54 pm

JBG has actually been solid in there but the pace of the prem is the difference here. Plus his injury record isn’t great as we know. Squad game

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Re: Mainz v Clarets

Post by Newcastleclaret93 » Sat Aug 05, 2023 1:55 pm

Pickles wrote:
Sat Aug 05, 2023 1:54 pm
And Redmond too, got a hunch he'll play there but could be wrong.
I honestly wouldn’t be surprised

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Post by dermotdermot » Sat Aug 05, 2023 1:56 pm

Hedontplayforyou wrote:
Sat Aug 05, 2023 1:52 pm
Cullen and Benson clearly not fit . Lokonga on the verge of singing and the likelyhood of us playing someone in the midfield at times who isn’t a natural central midfielder as JBG has and is doing and how it seems before kick off that redmond may well do as well. Think that’s how we will roll this season especially if Ramsey joins as well.
So Lokonga is a vocalist as well. Does he break out into song during the games or before and after?

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Post by Boss Hogg » Sat Aug 05, 2023 1:56 pm

When dies the stream start on Clarets + and where do you log in ? Already subscribed. Thanks

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Re: Mainz v Clarets

Post by ClaretTony » Sat Aug 05, 2023 1:56 pm

spt_claret wrote:
Sat Aug 05, 2023 1:47 pm
Costelloe over Weghorst tells me Weghorst's 100% being sold or loaned out. Still think that's a shame as I think in this system under Kompany he'd be very good for us- he's better than Barnes at everything Barnes did in that role, as much as Ash is by far the bigger club hero.
Doesn’t appear that Kompany agreed with you

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Re: Mainz v Clarets

Post by spt_claret » Sat Aug 05, 2023 1:57 pm

I think JBG showed great promise in that CDM role last season. I'm not sure you can play him and Brownhill in it in the Prem. I'm not even sure you can play either and Cullen in it in the Prem- JBG has better technique and general ball playing than Brownhill, but Josh has much more energy and athleticiscm these days, but neither really have enough of either IMO for that role in the Prem alongside Cullen, even if they have enough for it in the Championship.

Pinning all our hopes & expectations on Lokonga makes me uneasy. Very highly rated 2 years ago, an Arsenal mate of mine raved about him saying we should look to loan him- this in 2021. But another Arsenal supporter I know is not a huge fan of him, and a Palace mate basically summed his short loan up as being indifferent and not really mentioned much- neither especially good, or bad. His potential from a few years back does have me hopeful and his profile fits but it's putting an awful lot of weight on his shoulders to be our midfield saviour.

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Re: Mainz v Clarets

Post by ClaretTony » Sat Aug 05, 2023 1:57 pm

Boss Hogg wrote:
Sat Aug 05, 2023 1:56 pm
When dies the stream start on Clarets + and where do you log in ? Already subscribed. Thanks
You will need to be logged in and when it starts you’ll see a Live button at the top.
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Post by Hedontplayforyou » Sat Aug 05, 2023 1:57 pm

dermotdermot wrote:
Sat Aug 05, 2023 1:56 pm
So Lokonga is a vocalist as well. Does he break out into song during the games or before and after?
Aye let’s all do Lokonga , let’s all do Lokonga na na na na

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Re: Mainz v Clarets

Post by 123EasyasBFC » Sat Aug 05, 2023 2:01 pm

Benson on loan to arsenal has to be complete rubbish

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Post by boatshed bill » Sat Aug 05, 2023 2:03 pm

ClaretTony wrote:
Sat Aug 05, 2023 1:56 pm
Doesn’t appear that Kompany agreed with you
The goalscoring side of the game counts :D

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Post by Chadderton_Dan » Sat Aug 05, 2023 2:03 pm

I'm wondering if this could be a 3 at the back formation with Redmond filling on the lwb position

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Post by CFS » Sat Aug 05, 2023 2:05 pm

Chadderton_Dan wrote:
Sat Aug 05, 2023 2:03 pm
I'm wondering if this could be a 3 at the back formation with Redmond filling on the lwb position
O'Shea has been brought in to play the John stones role.

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Post by CFS » Sat Aug 05, 2023 2:05 pm

123EasyasBFC wrote:
Sat Aug 05, 2023 2:01 pm
Benson on loan to arsenal has to be complete rubbish
Might be.

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Post by spt_claret » Sat Aug 05, 2023 2:05 pm

boatshed bill wrote:
Sat Aug 05, 2023 2:03 pm
The goalscoring side of the game counts :D
Because Jay and Barnes set the Prem alight with their goal contributions the last 2 years in the Prem.
I know I know different system, but also, Jay is 2 years older with more injuries and looked a spent force in the runin last season.
I can't possibly see how anyone can be comfortable with him as our backup over Weghorst beyond one's a local lad and the other ticked off half the fans.
Got to trust in Kompany but can't understand it from the outside.
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Post by spt_claret » Sat Aug 05, 2023 2:07 pm

Chadderton_Dan wrote:
Sat Aug 05, 2023 2:03 pm
I'm wondering if this could be a 3 at the back formation with Redmond filling on the lwb position
I think there's a strong chance we go 3 at the back at least a few games this season when you look at how we have 4 quality CB options. In which case I think the winger signings we're making could well be about converting players to ultra-aggressive wingbacks for either flank. Look at Trent Alexander Arnold, he's a wingback who barely defends at all.

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Post by Hedontplayforyou » Sat Aug 05, 2023 2:07 pm

I’m going for Al Dakhil left back hybrid

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Post by boatshed bill » Sat Aug 05, 2023 2:08 pm

spt_claret wrote:
Sat Aug 05, 2023 2:05 pm
Because Jay and Barnes set the Prem alight with their goal contributions the last 2 years in the Prem.
I know I know different system, but also, Jay is 2 years older with more injuries and looked a spent force in the runin last season.
I can't possibly see how anyone can be comfortable with him as our backup over Weghorst beyond one's a local lad and the other ticked off half the fans.
Got to trust in Kompany but can't understand it from the outside.
I agree to some extent, and that is why Barnes is no longer at Burnley.
I'm sure that JR can lead the line as well as Weggie, and perhaps score a few as well.

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Post by RVclaret » Sat Aug 05, 2023 2:09 pm

Hedontplayforyou wrote:
Sat Aug 05, 2023 2:07 pm
I’m going for Al Dakhil left back hybrid
Yep this will be it

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Post by 123EasyasBFC » Sat Aug 05, 2023 2:10 pm

CFS wrote:
Sat Aug 05, 2023 2:05 pm
Might be.
Loaning one of our main players just doesn’t make sense, if you’re getting a big fee now you could maybe understand it.
Benson given number 10 shift this season I think he’s purely recovering

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Post by spt_claret » Sat Aug 05, 2023 2:13 pm

boatshed bill wrote:
Sat Aug 05, 2023 2:08 pm
I'm sure that JR can lead the line as well as Weggie, and perhaps score a few as well.
I'm not on either account unfortunately. Great servant in the past, 'one of our own' etc., but if it were up to me he'd be priority #1 to replace, with Cork #2.
Really hope I'm wrong - I was about Barnes last season - but can't see Jay doing anything this season.

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Post by No Ney Never » Sat Aug 05, 2023 2:15 pm

dermotdermot wrote:
Sat Aug 05, 2023 1:56 pm
So Lokonga is a vocalist as well. Does he break out into song during the games or before and after?
Do do do, c'mon and do Lokonga...

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Post by boatshed bill » Sat Aug 05, 2023 2:15 pm

spt_claret wrote:
Sat Aug 05, 2023 2:13 pm
I'm not on either account unfortunately. Great servant in the past, 'one of our own' etc., but if it were up to me he'd be priority #1 to replace, with Cork #2.
Really hope I'm wrong - I was about Barnes last season - but can't see Jay doing anything this season.
I hope you are wrong too. :D
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Post by ClaretTony » Sat Aug 05, 2023 2:18 pm

Still find it strange that we have injured players yet nothing is said - Cullen & Benson at the moment
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Post by northeastclaret » Sat Aug 05, 2023 2:18 pm

It’s very disappointing that for several reasons we will be starting next season with a weaker team than we finished last season.

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Post by ervi34 » Sat Aug 05, 2023 2:19 pm

Wait, there's people seriously thinking Arsenal who have players like Jesus, Martinelli, Saka, Trossard, Nketiah and even Havertz want to sign Benson on loan and that we would actually agree to do that?

I just don't realise why every topic needs conspiracy theories about players leaving. Benson is still injured, has been carrying it since the end of last season. Cullen got a knock against Genk and is still not ready.

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Post by northeastclaret » Sat Aug 05, 2023 2:20 pm

It’s very disappointing that for several reasons that it looks like we will be starting next season with a weaker team than we finished last season.

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Post by Vegas Claret » Sat Aug 05, 2023 2:21 pm

ClaretTony wrote:
Sat Aug 05, 2023 2:18 pm
Still find it strange that we have injured players yet nothing is said - Cullen & Benson at the moment
it's beyond bizarre

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Post by Big Vinny K » Sat Aug 05, 2023 2:22 pm

northeastclaret wrote:
Sat Aug 05, 2023 2:18 pm
It’s very disappointing that for several reasons we will be starting next season with a weaker team than we finished last season.
I’m sure most people thought that at the start of last season.
Why are you ‘very disappointed” given how things turned out last year ?

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Post by agreenwood » Sat Aug 05, 2023 2:23 pm

Vegas Claret wrote:
Sat Aug 05, 2023 2:21 pm
it's beyond bizarre
This is where the much maligned local journalists were key. There’s nobody between us and the club.
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