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The Central League

Post by Carwin261 » Wed Aug 09, 2023 10:56 pm

Oh to go back to the good old days of the Central League ,what a team we could field,get back to having 10,000 crowds on reserve games.

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Re: The Central League

Post by ClaretTony » Wed Aug 09, 2023 11:00 pm

Was really good back in the 1960s/70s when we played Saturday afternoon and all the big northern teams were in it.

If were in it now, we'd be in a league with Barrow, Blackpool, Bolton, Preston, Salford and Wrexham.
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Re: The Central League

Post by FCBurnley » Wed Aug 09, 2023 11:35 pm

And waiting for the first team half time score to go up on the old score board on the bee hole end and then on the ‘new’ scoreboards pitch side
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Re: The Central League

Post by Petersa » Thu Aug 10, 2023 1:11 am

Cut my Turf Moor teeth watching Central League in the early 60s like quite a few others.
Furnell Fenton Marshall Buxton the 2 Willies, Morgan and Irvine, could go on and on.
Never understand why today 'reserves' rarely play football, goalkeepers just train and sit on the bench. Lindegard, Legzdins, Norris, even BPF and I suspect Vigeroux will be next, hardly a game at any level between them
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Re: The Central League

Post by RammyClaret61 » Thu Aug 10, 2023 3:46 am

Loved the central league in the 70’s. I wasn’t allowed to go to away games, to young. But I was allowed to go to Turf Moor with my mate for reserves games. Bus from Ramsbottom, 264 I think, Bolton to Burnley bus. Then got to stand, we’ll run around the Longside. It was all like a big adventure for us. We’d be 10 to 14 years old. I was allowed to go to away games at 15.

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Re: The Central League

Post by TheOriginalLongsider » Thu Aug 10, 2023 6:30 am

I remember going on the alongside for a few reserve games then it went to the Bob Lord stand only. Some of the teams such as Liverpool always brought some big name players like Alan Hansen and Emlyn Hughes. Looked forward to getting the team sheet (2p ?) from the club shop to see who was playing. Season ticket holders went on free so there were always free tickets available for kids

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Re: The Central League

Post by Carwin261 » Thu Aug 10, 2023 8:18 am

Petersa wrote:
Thu Aug 10, 2023 1:11 am
Cut my Turf Moor teeth watching Central League in the early 60s like quite a few others.
Furnell Fenton Marshall Buxton the 2 Willies, Morgan and Irvine, could go on and on.
Never understand why today 'reserves' rarely play football, goalkeepers just train and sit on the bench. Lindegard, Legzdins, Norris, even BPF and I suspect Vigeroux will be next, hardly a game at any level between them
One of the more memorable games was when we played Utd ,and Colin Blant ran amok,if my memory serves me right ,Gregg ,and Cantwell were playing,and I’m sure they both got sent off,and a couple of City matches when Corrigan played ,let 6 in for the 1st team,and 6 for the stiffs,the announcer used to do scores updates ,and Wolves putting 6 past us ,and the rumour going round the ground was that Blacklaw had broken his leg,happy days.

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Re: The Central League

Post by lancastrian » Thu Aug 10, 2023 8:22 am

Those were the days. In the late forties and early fifties if you were so inclined you could stand behind the goals at the BeeHole end for the first half and then move to the cricket field stand for the second half.

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Re: The Central League

Post by Jimscho » Thu Aug 10, 2023 8:27 am

RammyClaret61 wrote:
Thu Aug 10, 2023 3:46 am
Loved the central league in the 70’s. I wasn’t allowed to go to away games, to young. But I was allowed to go to Turf Moor with my mate for reserves games. Bus from Ramsbottom, 264 I think, Bolton to Burnley bus. Then got to stand, we’ll run around the Longside. It was all like a big adventure for us. We’d be 10 to 14 years old. I was allowed to go to away games at 15.
I used to catch the 236 Bolton to Burnley bus late 60s early 70s.It went through Lumb and Water.I was born in Lumb and worked at Barclays Rammy early 70s.

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Re: The Central League

Post by Jimscho » Thu Aug 10, 2023 8:28 am

I alsho meant to say I rarely missed a Central league game.

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Re: The Central League

Post by RammyClaret61 » Thu Aug 10, 2023 9:26 am

Jimscho wrote:
Thu Aug 10, 2023 8:27 am
I used to catch the 236 Bolton to Burnley bus late 60s early 70s.It went through Lumb and Water.I was born in Lumb and worked at Barclays Rammy early 70s.
236, that’s the one.

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Re: The Central League

Post by A.Claret.Fan » Thu Aug 10, 2023 9:43 am

My first game was with my mum on the longside. It was Chelsea reserves...

I spent most of the time swingin on the green metal rests/barriers and running up and down the steps.

Must have been 8 or 9.

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Re: The Central League

Post by bfcjg » Thu Aug 10, 2023 10:06 am

Used to be a good day if you didn't go to the away game, you always knew the first team score.

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Re: The Central League

Post by ClaretTony » Thu Aug 10, 2023 10:15 am

Petersa wrote:
Thu Aug 10, 2023 1:11 am
Cut my Turf Moor teeth watching Central League in the early 60s like quite a few others.
It was like an apprenticeship to see whether you liked going. I was allowed to go to reserve games for a while before the first team.

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Re: The Central League

Post by Tricky Trevor » Thu Aug 10, 2023 10:16 am

I loved the reserve games a major plus was seeing quality players coming back from injury or past their best players coaching on the field and still having enough class for the level.
Because it was run alongside first team matches it felt like a league, you checked the tables. Now with the age group games I don’t give a toss. Just check the reports to see if we have anybody decent coming through.

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Re: The Central League

Post by thehistorylecturer63 » Thu Aug 10, 2023 10:22 am

A.Claret.Fan wrote:
Thu Aug 10, 2023 9:43 am
My first game was with my mum on the longside. It was Chelsea reserves...

I spent most of the time swingin on the green metal rests/barriers and running up and down the steps.

Must have been 8 or 9.
Chelsea Reserves played in the Football Combination with the other Southern clubs

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Re: The Central League

Post by ClaretTony » Thu Aug 10, 2023 10:25 am

Definitely no southern clubs in the Central League.

Midlands was interesting, we played Villa, West Brom and Wolves but not Birmingham, they were in the Football Combination.

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Re: The Central League

Post by houseboy » Thu Aug 10, 2023 10:27 am

I recall going to a few reserve games in the late 60s early 70s. I had a season ticket then and seem to think reserve games were free for season ticket holders. Is my memory correct?

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Re: The Central League

Post by thehistorylecturer63 » Thu Aug 10, 2023 10:28 am

Yes one or two moved over the years same with the Northern Intermediate League which was originally mainly Yorkshire and the North East

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Re: The Central League

Post by thehistorylecturer63 » Thu Aug 10, 2023 10:28 am

houseboy wrote:
Thu Aug 10, 2023 10:27 am
I recall going to a few reserve games in the late 60s early 70s. I had a season ticket then and seem to think reserve games were free for season ticket holders. Is my memory correct?
Yes

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Re: The Central League

Post by ClaretTony » Thu Aug 10, 2023 10:34 am

Teams I can recall us playing were

Everton
Liverpool
Man City
Man Utd
Blackburn
Blackpool
Bolton
Bury
Preston
Newcastle
Aston Villa
West Brom
Wolves
Chesterfield
Barnsley
Nottingham Forest
Derby
Stoke

not so sure on the Yorkshire clubs but I think Huddersfield and the two Sheffields might have been in.

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Re: The Central League

Post by sjb » Thu Aug 10, 2023 10:38 am

We won the Central League 3 times, including in successive seasons in the early 60s. Interestingly the current champions in its much reduced form are Accrington Stanley. I seem to recall Coventry & Nottingham Forest joining the League in about 1967, replacing Chesterfield & Barnsley.
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Re: The Central League

Post by sjb » Thu Aug 10, 2023 10:39 am

ClaretTony wrote:
Thu Aug 10, 2023 10:34 am
Teams I can recall us playing were

Everton
Liverpool
Man City
Man Utd
Blackburn
Blackpool
Bolton
Bury
Preston
Newcastle
Aston Villa
West Brom
Wolves
Chesterfield
Barnsley
Nottingham Forest
Derby
Stoke

not so sure on the Yorkshire clubs but I think Huddersfield and the two Sheffields might have been in.
Huddersfield & the 2 Sheffields were in, and so were Leeds & Coventry
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Re: The Central League

Post by ClaretTony » Thu Aug 10, 2023 10:40 am

sjb wrote:
Thu Aug 10, 2023 10:39 am
Huddersfield & the 2 Sheffields were in, and so were Leeds & Coventry
I'd just let Coventry slip my mind but I thought the others were. For some reason I can't recall Leeds being in.

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Re: The Central League

Post by sjb » Thu Aug 10, 2023 10:43 am

ClaretTony wrote:
Thu Aug 10, 2023 10:40 am
I'd just let Coventry slip my mind but I thought the others were. For some reason I can't recall Leeds being in.
Yes, Coventry were late entrants in about 1967, along with Forest.
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Re: The Central League

Post by ClaretTony » Thu Aug 10, 2023 10:45 am

sjb wrote:
Thu Aug 10, 2023 10:43 am
Yes, Coventry were late entrants in about 1967, along with Forest.
It's strange how you can remember playing some teams, and Coventry I do, but not others.

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Re: The Central League

Post by sjb » Thu Aug 10, 2023 10:46 am

I collect Reserve teamsheets and it's fascinating to look through the ones from the 1960s & 70s in particular.

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Re: The Central League

Post by thehistorylecturer63 » Thu Aug 10, 2023 10:51 am

Sunderland arrived from the NIL at some point after the Central League went to two divisions … Middlesbrough too

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Re: The Central League

Post by ClaretTony » Thu Aug 10, 2023 10:57 am

sjb wrote:
Thu Aug 10, 2023 10:46 am
I collect Reserve teamsheets and it's fascinating to look through the ones from the 1960s & 70s in particular.
Green team sheets at Burnley

I have one somewhere for Villa away and it was a proper programme

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Re: The Central League

Post by Carwin261 » Thu Aug 10, 2023 11:01 am

When I posted this I remember what my mate said “Old folk either reminisce or smell of p_ss,glad you lot are the latter,one of my earlier recollections of the Stiffs were these players,Gaskell in goal ,Buxton,Price,White ,Simpson,Payton,Towers ,Meredith,Harry Thomson,Blacklaw ,Blant,Holden,Latcham,Joyce,Freddie Smith,and many more.

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Re: The Central League

Post by ClaretTony » Thu Aug 10, 2023 11:11 am

One player I never saw in the first team but saw playing in goal for the reserves trying to make a comeback was Colin McDonald.

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Re: The Central League

Post by sjb » Thu Aug 10, 2023 11:24 am

ClaretTony wrote:
Thu Aug 10, 2023 10:57 am
Green team sheets at Burnley

I have one somewhere for Villa away and it was a proper programme
Green up to 1970 then pink card for a season then just black & white A4 sheets. Up to 1958 Burnley did a full programme. You're right about Villa in the 60s, other clubs who did full or 4 page issues were Man Utd & Newcastle.

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Re: The Central League

Post by sjb » Thu Aug 10, 2023 11:29 am

thehistorylecturer63 wrote:
Thu Aug 10, 2023 10:51 am
Sunderland arrived from the NIL at some point after the Central League went to two divisions … Middlesbrough too
Other teams who have also competed in it at various times in its different guises include Lincoln, Hull, Shrewsbury, Doncaster, Scunthorpe, Rochdale, Notts County, Port Vale, Tranmere, Walsall, Wrexham, Leicester, Morecambe, Mansfield & Wigan.
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Re: The Central League

Post by Tricky Trevor » Thu Aug 10, 2023 11:41 am

A reserves programme from 4-4-53 and I was born 11 days later. Full programme but no managers notes. First team were at Aston Villa.
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Re: The Central League

Post by sandy richardson » Thu Aug 10, 2023 12:39 pm

Anyone remember Brian Kettle of Liverpool, who must have played more Central League games than anyone?

Just looked him up, and was at Liverpool 1973-80 but only played four first-team games.

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Re: The Central League

Post by Quicknick » Thu Aug 10, 2023 12:47 pm

I didn't go to too many Central League matches - a few in the '60s and more in the mid-'70s because I had a season ticket - but it was a really high standard. Some players made careers as Central League players as sandy richardson, above, suggests.

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Re: The Central League

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sandy richardson wrote:
Thu Aug 10, 2023 12:39 pm
Anyone remember Brian Kettle of Liverpool, who must have played more Central League games than anyone?

Just looked him up, and was at Liverpool 1973-80 but only played four first-team games.
Don’t know if anyone knows how many reserve games Mick Buxton played ,he had very few 1st team appearances,seem to think he broke his leg either 2 or 3 times whilst with Burnley

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Re: The Central League

Post by Sozturf7 » Thu Aug 10, 2023 1:04 pm

Like many of the old ones on here remember being taken on in the 50's by my Dad. When I'd stopped swinging on the crush barriers and started to take an interest in the matches he started to take me on the first team matches, hooked then.

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Re: The Central League

Post by sandy richardson » Thu Aug 10, 2023 1:15 pm

Would there be any records of Central League appearances?

Carwin261--do you read Backpass magazine? Mick Buxton is mentioned in the current issue in an article on Martin Tyler.

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Re: The Central League

Post by Carwin261 » Thu Aug 10, 2023 1:25 pm

sandy richardson wrote:
Thu Aug 10, 2023 1:15 pm
Would there be any records of Central League appearances?

Carwin261--do you read Backpass magazine? Mick Buxton is mentioned in the current issue in an article on Martin Tyler.
Sorry I don’t ,always fancied him back at The Turf when we were in the lower leagues did a good job with little money.

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Re: The Central League

Post by Jimscho » Thu Aug 10, 2023 2:32 pm

RammyClaret61 wrote:
Thu Aug 10, 2023 9:26 am
236, that’s the one.

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Worked with Sheila,her mother had shop in Shuttleworth.
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