First PL Manager to Get Sacked

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Re: First PL Manager to Get Sacked

Post by KRBFC » Sat Aug 26, 2023 5:54 pm

bfcjg wrote:
Sat Aug 26, 2023 5:35 pm
O think after today it will be Dyche.
I hate to read some of the insults about him though
He had sod all money here so had to play a brand of football that although hard to watch at times kept us up, we did play some brilliant football under him as well.
Everton are just a basket case,no money,overpaid egotistical players and a fan base that think they have a divine right to be a top 6 club.
Sod all money is brilliant,

Wood 18m
Gibson 15m
Brady 12m
Hendrick 10m
Rodriguez 10m
Gray 8m
Weghorst 10m
Collins 13m
Cornet 14m

2nd biggest wage bill in the Championship.

Dyches problem was he was stuck in his ways, zero knowledge outside of England, he had no idea how to build a side for the future, players that would improve over time. Flat out refusal to sign and play kids or use the loan market.

Only one way of playing regardless of budget. Spent 20m+ on Rodriguez, Wells and Vydra combined. We always had four or five strikers all on the decline, where was the young foreign striker playing 4th choice but ready to takeover when Wood was sold?
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Re: First PL Manager to Get Sacked

Post by Spiral » Sat Aug 26, 2023 6:14 pm

Those numbers mean bugger all in isolation. They might look big to you, but relative to other PL teams we were perennial low spenders, both on wages and transfer fees. I do think it's true that his style of play is how he genuinely wants football to be played, and that if he had more money he'd still try playing direct football with big, physically imposing players, similar to Howe at Newcastle who has moved past the tiki-taka imitation he tried implementing at Burnley and Bournemouth, and shithoused his team to CL footy, but it's also true that on our relative budget for most of his time here - without the extensive scouting network and data analytics team we've built and developed under Pace, not to mention capitalising on the ability to completely flush out the team over a single summer upon relegation - the relative absence of those resources and opportunities during the majority of Dyche's time with us made it quite convenient for us to have a manager who gets a lot out of a shoestring budget, and this always means attritional football. To put it in a sentence, Dyche's footballing ethos aligned with our resources. I think it's wrong to say he only played the way he did because of us being relative under-spenders, because I believe he still likes to play that way, but it's also wrong to say that under Garlick we had anything like the facility to build a team like the one we have now, and that's driven as much by the chairman as by the manager.
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Re: First PL Manager to Get Sacked

Post by Shaggy » Sat Aug 26, 2023 6:20 pm

What’s Spiral ranting on about now?

I get bored after the first sentence.

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Re: First PL Manager to Get Sacked

Post by GodIsADeeJay81 » Sat Aug 26, 2023 6:22 pm

You wouldn’t understand if shaggy, he’s talking sense about Dyche, something you’ve never done
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Re: First PL Manager to Get Sacked

Post by Spiral » Sat Aug 26, 2023 6:25 pm

Shaggy wrote:
Sat Aug 26, 2023 6:20 pm
What’s Spiral ranting on about now?

I get bored after the first sentence.
Your mum.

I also got bored after the first sentence.

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Re: First PL Manager to Get Sacked

Post by claretandy » Sat Aug 26, 2023 6:25 pm

Some things never change, Dyche bringing a centre half on upfront :lol:

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Re: First PL Manager to Get Sacked

Post by Vegas Claret » Sat Aug 26, 2023 6:27 pm

Dyche wont get potted, they've just had the 30 million + fee agreed for Beto. When they get people back fit they will have an excellent group of attacking players to choose from

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Re: First PL Manager to Get Sacked

Post by ClaretAndJew » Sat Aug 26, 2023 6:33 pm

First time in their entire history that they've lost the first 3 opening games of a season without scoring a goal.

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Re: First PL Manager to Get Sacked

Post by Superjohnnyfrancis » Sat Aug 26, 2023 6:37 pm

I don’t think Moshiri can afford to pot him, their struggling for money with the stadium build by the looks of it.

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Re: First PL Manager to Get Sacked

Post by box_of_frogs » Sun Aug 27, 2023 10:24 am

SD is currently the favourite on Sky Bet (other sites are available) at 3/1.

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Re: First PL Manager to Get Sacked

Post by AfloatinClaret » Sun Aug 27, 2023 1:21 pm

wilks_bfc wrote:
Sat Aug 26, 2023 5:43 pm
Everton are a mess of a club and have been way before Dyche got there
They have had 12 managers since May 2016 (including interim managers) and that includes good managers in Ancelotti & Benitez
Is that even more than Watford? As a few have noted already, it was a lot easier for the bookies to set the odds when Watford were in the EPL and not beyond them to fill one of the each-way places too.

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Re: First PL Manager to Get Sacked

Post by Shaggy » Sun Aug 27, 2023 1:42 pm

GodIsADeeJay81 wrote:
Sat Aug 26, 2023 6:22 pm
You wouldn’t understand if shaggy, he’s talking sense about Dyche, something you’ve never done
Whatever squire. Iv been proven correct on Dyche and his prehistoric footballing philosophy.

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Re: First PL Manager to Get Sacked

Post by warksclaret » Sun Aug 27, 2023 2:05 pm

I think the Bouremouth manager might come under pressure and Bournemouth are always quick to pull the trigger

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Re: First PL Manager to Get Sacked

Post by GodIsADeeJay81 » Sun Aug 27, 2023 2:31 pm

Shaggy wrote:
Sun Aug 27, 2023 1:42 pm
Whatever squire. Iv been proven correct on Dyche and his prehistoric footballing philosophy.
Sure, whatever you want to think
I wouldn’t trust you to get the weather right

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Re: First PL Manager to Get Sacked

Post by Les Lawrence » Sun Aug 27, 2023 4:02 pm

Vk then cool claret can take over

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Re: First PL Manager to Get Sacked

Post by Shaggy » Sun Aug 27, 2023 4:14 pm

GodIsADeeJay81 wrote:
Sun Aug 27, 2023 2:31 pm
Sure, whatever you want to think
I wouldn’t trust you to get the weather right
That’s because you base your opinions in line with the sheeple who don’t use logic or reason.

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Re: First PL Manager to Get Sacked

Post by GodIsADeeJay81 » Sun Aug 27, 2023 4:43 pm

Shaggy wrote:
Sun Aug 27, 2023 4:14 pm
That’s because you base your opinions in line with the sheeple who don’t use logic or reason.
Glass house and all that

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