Maatsen video on social media

123EasyasBFC · Post by **123EasyasBFC** » Sat Sep 02, 2023 7:48 am

The video going round of Maatsen watching sky sports news as they say Chelsea have agreed a fee with us and saying ‘up the blues I’m still here’ poor from Maatsen, a young lad who’s had his head turned and advised to stay where he is. He’s forgetting the season Burnley gave him last season and showed a lack of respect.

Im 100% certain Maatsen won’t start a game between now and Jan and will be lucky to make the bench most weeks.

Here’s the video - https://x.com/stokeyyg2/status/16977723 ... rNr6Z5x6nA

agreenwood · Post by **agreenwood** » Sat Sep 02, 2023 7:52 am

To be fair to him, he may not have realised the person filming the call was going to put it on social media. In any event he’s just reacting to a story that he’s leaving Chelsea by saying he isn’t in what looks like a private phone call.

No big deal.

Tricky Trevor · Post by **Tricky Trevor** » Sat Sep 02, 2023 7:53 am

A good footballer but not a good defender for me. I won’t miss him.

123EasyasBFC · Post by **123EasyasBFC** » Sat Sep 02, 2023 7:58 am

agreenwood wrote: ↑
Sat Sep 02, 2023 7:52 am
To be fair to him, he may not have realised the person filming the call was going to put it on social media. In any event he’s just reacting to a story that he’s leaving Chelsea by saying he isn’t in what looks like a private phone call.

No big deal.

It’s front camera you clearly know your being filmed, if he thinks it’s a private call then he needs new mates, just poor form imo no need for it, especially when Chelsea wanted to let him go

Robbie_painter · Post by **Robbie_painter** » Sat Sep 02, 2023 7:58 am

The fee reported was insane for a left back that struggles to defend.Glad it didn’t happen.

Darnhill Claret · Post by **Darnhill Claret** » Sat Sep 02, 2023 8:00 am

It might be for the benefit of Chelsea fans, rather than the fans of a club he previously played for.

AGENT_CLARET · Post by **AGENT_CLARET** » Sat Sep 02, 2023 8:01 am

His agent and or Maatsen played a blinder, he stayed at Chelsea and got a nice big fat contract extension and big pay rise well done to him, if he's more bothered about money and the cudos of sitting on the Chelsea bench then he's not the player for us, I've said it a few times I don't rate him has a defender even playing in the role of a moden wing back, to small to weak and that's why Chelsea don't play him in defence

RVclaret · Post by **RVclaret** » Sat Sep 02, 2023 8:01 am

I wonder if Maatsen will incur the infamous ‘Turf Moor boo’ now.

123EasyasBFC · Post by **123EasyasBFC** » Sat Sep 02, 2023 8:06 am

RVclaret wrote: ↑
Sat Sep 02, 2023 8:01 am
I wonder if Maatsen will incur the infamous ‘Turf Moor boo’ now.

He won’t even be in squad, he will be sat on same settee he is on the video

Clovius Boofus · Post by **Clovius Boofus** » Sat Sep 02, 2023 8:12 am

Crime of the century.

StayingDown4Ever · Post by **StayingDown4Ever** » Sat Sep 02, 2023 8:21 am

AGENT_CLARET wrote: ↑
Sat Sep 02, 2023 8:01 am
His agent and or Maatsen played a blinder, he stayed at Chelsea and got a nice big fat contract extension and big pay rise well done to him, if he's more bothered about money and the cudos of sitting on the Chelsea bench then he's not the player for us

Half the players we have signed have left their clubs to get a pay rise here knowing full well they will be on the bench every week.

Clovius Boofus · Post by **Clovius Boofus** » Sat Sep 02, 2023 8:25 am

Anyhow, what do you expect him to say? For all we know, he might have been hankering behind the scenes to come back, and this is his way to ingratiate himself back into the fold with those who he has to near enough live and work live with for the foreseeable future.

Thing is, if we are going to get all precious about this - then football fandom really has jumped the shark. Fair enough, if he was laughing his head off while saying 'f*ck the Clarets'. I'm surprised there's even a thread about this, on a largely middle-aged fans forum.

Summerseat Claret · Post by **Summerseat Claret** » Sat Sep 02, 2023 8:33 am

If this is the same Ian Maatsen as the one that helped us win the league last year and spent last Christmas delivering presents to families in Burnley that were struggling to pay for Christmas then I'll not get too offended.

Culmclaret · Post by **Culmclaret** » Sat Sep 02, 2023 8:37 am

Talented lad who may have a big future if he makes the right choices. Only time will tell whether he has made the right call this time.

burnleymik · Post by **burnleymik** » Sat Sep 02, 2023 8:41 am

He made his choice. Good luck to him. He did well for us last year, but he wasn't irreplaceable and the fact we didn't chase any other LBs makes me believe VK already had a plan B, tactically.

ClaretMat · Post by **ClaretMat** » Sat Sep 02, 2023 8:42 am

Not sure there's much in that video.
He was a very good player for us last season but I would worry about him defensively at this level in a team that isn't going to dominate posession in the same way as last year. If the fee was accurate I'm actually quite relieved we haven't signed him and a little staggered how that sort of valuation could be justified. Particularly as players like Hudson Odoi went for a reported 8m and have arguably had much more success at Chelsea and only 1 year age difference.

MDWat · Post by **MDWat** » Sat Sep 02, 2023 8:43 am

agreenwood wrote: ↑
Sat Sep 02, 2023 7:52 am
To be fair to him, he may not have realised the person filming the call was going to put it on social media. In any event he’s just reacting to a story that he’s leaving Chelsea by saying he isn’t in what looks like a private phone call.

No big deal.

Stop talking sense please, it doesn’t fit on this messageboard

arise_sir_charge · Post by **arise_sir_charge** » Sat Sep 02, 2023 8:45 am

Just a little bit more evidence that footballers can be a bit numb. Nothing to get upset about.

claptrappers_union · Post by **claptrappers_union** » Sat Sep 02, 2023 8:46 am

I find it funny how people take players not joining a club personally.

Damo · Post by **Damo** » Sat Sep 02, 2023 8:46 am

I don't think for one minute that's a dig at Burnley.

Imagine booing him at the Turf because of that

Colburn_Claret · Post by **Colburn_Claret** » Sat Sep 02, 2023 8:51 am

Tricky Trevor wrote: ↑
Sat Sep 02, 2023 7:53 am
A good footballer but not a good defender for me. I won’t miss him.

I'll miss him, even though you're right.

Darthlaw · Post by **Darthlaw** » Sat Sep 02, 2023 8:53 am

We’ve signed plenty of very talented youngsters who want to showcase their talent in the PL, rather than sit in a big clubs reserves, with a view to a bigger move if they prove their talent.

If Maatsen doesn’t want to be part of that project it’s no skin off my nose.

I’ll take the Bellinghams of the world all day long over the Rodwells.

Claret Alfie · Post by **Claret Alfie** » Sat Sep 02, 2023 8:55 am

Fair play to him if he wants to stay at Chelsea and fight for a place. Chilwell and Cucurella are hardly Carlos and Maldini. Maatsen may well break his way into that team.

JohnMcGreal · Post by **JohnMcGreal** » Sat Sep 02, 2023 9:00 am

He's a talented young player in a squad full of youngsters. He probably feels this season is his big chance to break into the Chelsea team. It's not the Chelsea of old, full of experienced megastars etc. There are places up for grabs.

Good luck to him. He was excellent when on loan with us and he deserves a chance to make it at his parent club.

Clovius Boofus · Post by **Clovius Boofus** » Sat Sep 02, 2023 9:03 am

He's a contracted player, not a free agent, so how do we know it was his choice to stay? Sounds like a load of Mystic Meggery.

claretlegend · Post by **claretlegend** » Sat Sep 02, 2023 9:09 am

The video doesn't bother me. If he wants to stay at Chelsea to try and get into the side, then fair play to him. Not many players get the opportunity to play for such a top club, it might be his last chance to prove himself at that level.

I was excited/happy when we'd agreed a fee but in reality that's too much for a left back who is questionable defensively. He was brilliant for us last year and I think he's premier league quality but we're not exactly flush with cash and I don't think we can spend that sort of money after we've already pushed the boat out this window. I just hope our already proven premier league left back gets the opportunity.

Quickenthetempo · Post by **Quickenthetempo** » Sat Sep 02, 2023 9:15 am

He probably turned the move down straight away and was sick of the media repeating the story all day as it might still happen.

It's tedious watching them do it, nevermind the story being about you.

Steve-Harpers-perm · Post by **Steve-Harpers-perm** » Sat Sep 02, 2023 9:16 am

Damo wrote: ↑
Sat Sep 02, 2023 8:46 am
I don't think for one minute that's a dig at Burnley.

Imagine booing him at the Turf because of that

Some of our brain doners definitely will!

beddie · Post by **beddie** » Sat Sep 02, 2023 9:16 am

Wasn’t it more about location with Maatsen.

boatshed bill · Post by **boatshed bill** » Sat Sep 02, 2023 9:19 am

Darnhill Claret wrote: ↑
Sat Sep 02, 2023 8:00 am
It might be for the benefit of Chelsea fans, rather than the fans of a club he previously played for.

Almost certainly.
You can't blame him, he's hardly likely to say "Up The Clarets".

northeastclaret · Post by **northeastclaret** » Sat Sep 02, 2023 9:21 am

Isn’t the issue on why we feel like we do the fact we didn’t have alternatives. To what extent was this due to Maatsen keeping both options open and misleading us. I can’t believe we weren’t confident of him signing if we were prepared to eventually pay whatever Chelsea demanded.

Rileybobs · Post by **Rileybobs** » Sat Sep 02, 2023 9:25 am

This is nearly as bad as that time Wout Weghorst let himself get shouted at by Conor Roberts whilst on international duty.

JimmyRobbo · Post by **JimmyRobbo** » Sat Sep 02, 2023 9:25 am

I don't mind that at all.

He wouldn't be weakened financially by staying there. He might not even lose any transfer value.

For his development, I wouldn't have thought getting a splinter in his backside is the best for him.

For us, I would have been very happy to get him. I think he is a very talented player with lots of potential. Unfortunately, I think the reported fee was wither a lie or plain ridiculous. We could do a lot more with that money for a player who is very dominant on his left foot, poor defensively and a weak link for set-pieces. In an alarming number of cases, players of his stature are an injury waiting to happen. All in all, I am not disappointed he's not coming.

Rileybobs · Post by **Rileybobs** » Sat Sep 02, 2023 9:26 am

beddie wrote: ↑
Sat Sep 02, 2023 9:16 am
Wasn’t it more about location with Maatsen.

I’m pretty certain it was about number of pounds on his payslip.

bfcjg · Post by **bfcjg** » Sat Sep 02, 2023 9:28 am

Ian who ?

warksclaret · Post by **warksclaret** » Sat Sep 02, 2023 9:40 am

Lets move on. He was great for us and pity it ended up with him staying at Chelsea. He will do dam well to be a regular in the Chelsea side

Claretmisterg · Post by **Claretmisterg** » Sat Sep 02, 2023 9:53 am

Well it isn’t like he’s saying I’m glad I’m not going back to that shjthole is it ? If he had signed he would have said Up the Clarets. He’s just affirming his loyalty now that the matter is settled.

Eyesofblue2 · Post by **Eyesofblue2** » Sat Sep 02, 2023 10:05 am

With unknown add-ons bringing the fee to a total way beyond anything we were likely to agree to pay and with Maatsen turning the deal down, I can't help thinking this deal was set up by Chelsea more to help alleviate their FFP problems than anything else. It's possible Maatsen decided he didn't want to be a pawn in their financial game and if that is the case, then good for him.

Papabendi · Post by **Papabendi** » Sat Sep 02, 2023 10:05 am

One question left outstanding is whether he has signed a new contract at Chelsea or whether he is letting his contract run down

Jakubclaret · Post by **Jakubclaret** » Sat Sep 02, 2023 10:12 am

The move just didn't appeal to him he'd already tried something once so it's not as if he didn't know what he was letting himself in for, he isn't the first & won't be the last Chelsea player that wants to stay put & fight for the jersey, good luck to him in his future choices he doesn't owe us anything shouldn't be any bitterness.

FeedTheArf · Post by **FeedTheArf** » Sat Sep 02, 2023 10:15 am

The video is a bit childish but no great crime. If anything it’s more a dig at SSN thinking they know what’s going on when it isn’t the case.

Would’ve loved him to sign for us, but equally happy we didn’t pay over £30m for him. At that price, for a club at our level you’d be hoping for an absolute game changer of a player. Whilst Maatsen would plug the gap on the left side, I don’t see him being a game changer for us.

Clive 1960 · Post by **Clive 1960** » Sat Sep 02, 2023 10:23 am

If we were willing to pay that for a left back I'm surprised we didn't pay 20 for Tella.

Jakubclaret · Post by **Jakubclaret** » Sat Sep 02, 2023 10:25 am

Clive 1960 wrote: ↑
Sat Sep 02, 2023 10:23 am
If we were willing to pay that for a left back I'm surprised we didn't pay 20 for Tella.

We don't really know for sure we was willing.

quoonbeatz · Post by **quoonbeatz** » Sat Sep 02, 2023 10:26 am

I thought the reaction on the transfer thread to him not signing was funny but this, and the twitter storm, is way better.

Pickles · Post by **Pickles** » Sat Sep 02, 2023 10:30 am

Who's arsed and why.

Ric_C · Post by **Ric_C** » Sat Sep 02, 2023 10:40 am

Papabendi wrote: ↑
Sat Sep 02, 2023 10:05 am
One question left outstanding is whether he has signed a new contract at Chelsea or whether he is letting his contract run down

This is the one thing Chelsea fans are suddenly coming to realise. They were creaming themselves last night, but the reality is they might lose out on around 30 million quid if he runs his contract down. Some of them are now starting to realise this

ashtonlongsider · Post by **ashtonlongsider** » Sat Sep 02, 2023 10:42 am

Comes across as confident and I fully expect him to displace Chilwell (if he can stay fit) before much longer. Anyhow we've got a good LB who I firmly believe can play in this system and give us the balance we need.

BurnleyFC · Post by **BurnleyFC** » Sat Sep 02, 2023 10:54 am

Nothing to see or get upset about here.

I’m disappointed we couldn’t get him back but wish him well, just not if he’s playing against us.

aclaretinstevenage · Post by **aclaretinstevenage** » Sat Sep 02, 2023 11:37 am

Last season was mutually good for Burnley and Ian Maatsen. I'm happy to leave it there.

Ilkley claret · Post by **Ilkley claret** » Sat Sep 02, 2023 11:48 am

Papabendi wrote: ↑
Sat Sep 02, 2023 10:05 am
One question left outstanding is whether he has signed a new contract at Chelsea or whether he is letting his contract run down

I think the academy players are getting wise to how the big clubs are making money out of them and calling their bluff by running down their contracts, having established what the market will pay for them.

In this case Maatsen can now pocket a large part of the fee rather than Chelsea.

I think Chelsea failed to get a few out of the door, perhaps they all have the same agent?