Roy Keane

bfcjg · Post by **bfcjg** » Mon Sep 04, 2023 9:56 am

Allegedly attacked at the Emirates yesterday. Disgraceful if true. However if for example it happened at Burnley would more be made of it and as it's the current media darlings Arsenal it is played down. Also some frothing at the mouth pundits would go into overdrive.
https://www.bbc.com/sport/football/66703473

Devils_Advocate · Post by **Devils_Advocate** » Mon Sep 04, 2023 10:04 am

Agree, if it had been at Burnley it would be all over the internet news sites, on the front page of the BBC website and probably trending across Twitter.

As it happened at media darlings Arsenal you can only find it all over the internet news sites, on the front page of the BBC website and trending across Twitter.

Bordeauxclaret · Post by **Bordeauxclaret** » Mon Sep 04, 2023 10:05 am

Seems to be on the headlines of all major news outlets from what I can see.

bfcjg · Post by **bfcjg** » Mon Sep 04, 2023 10:05 am

Small scale though.

Burnley1989 · Post by **Burnley1989** » Mon Sep 04, 2023 10:17 am

You’d have to be pretty brain dead to take on Keane & Richard’s

4midable · Post by **4midable** » Mon Sep 04, 2023 10:18 am

Says headbutt
Nothing happened

Foshiznik · Post by **Foshiznik** » Mon Sep 04, 2023 10:40 am

No arrests as of yet and the video they keep mentioning is just Micah Richards having someone up against a wall holding his collar like he's about the beat him. I assume this was the aftermath of the reported headbutt

KRBFC · Post by **KRBFC** » Mon Sep 04, 2023 11:03 am

Media darlings? lol nonsense

Culmclaret · Post by **Culmclaret** » Mon Sep 04, 2023 11:12 am

Turned out that a bottle of pop was lobbed at him by some kids in an underpass……

Rick_Muller · Post by **Rick_Muller** » Mon Sep 04, 2023 11:15 am

...had that happened in Burnley the media would have had days of mourning the death of Roy Keane without actually checking the facts first

bf2k · Post by **bf2k** » Mon Sep 04, 2023 11:52 am

Burnley1989 wrote: ↑
Mon Sep 04, 2023 10:17 am
You’d have to be pretty brain dead to take on Keane & Richard’s

I thought that when I heard it on TalkSport

IPAclaret · Post by **IPAclaret** » Mon Sep 04, 2023 12:16 pm

Wasn't there also a Crystal palace fan arrested yesterday for racially abusing a Wolves player ... at least it's not us in the spotlight for a change

TsarBomba · Post by **TsarBomba** » Mon Sep 04, 2023 12:25 pm

IPAclaret wrote: ↑
Mon Sep 04, 2023 12:16 pm
Wasn't there also a Crystal palace fan arrested yesterday for racially abusing a Wolves player ... at least it's not us in the spotlight for a change

Never even knew this had happened until now.

Good to see an arrest has been made.

There’s no question though we get jumped on by the media compared to other clubs/fans.

Anthonini · Post by **Anthonini** » Mon Sep 04, 2023 12:47 pm

How can you not like Keane he's hilarious

fidelcastro · Post by **fidelcastro** » Mon Sep 04, 2023 12:51 pm

TsarBomba wrote: ↑
Mon Sep 04, 2023 12:25 pm
There’s no question though we get jumped on by the media compared to other clubs/fans.

I suppose you've some evidence for this, officer?

bfcjg · Post by **bfcjg** » Mon Sep 04, 2023 1:42 pm

fidelcastro wrote: ↑
Mon Sep 04, 2023 12:51 pm
I suppose you've some evidence for this, officer?

Go on twitter or X as it is now, the massive overreaction from fans stating we are knuckle daggers etc,there was even Plymouth fans harping on about a minor incident over 30 years ago.

AfloatinClaret · Post by **AfloatinClaret** » Mon Sep 04, 2023 2:05 pm

bfcjg wrote: ↑
Mon Sep 04, 2023 1:42 pm
Go on twitter or X as it is now, the massive overreaction from fans stating we are knuckle daggers etc.

If the cap fits and all that... Perhaps in the fullness of time that sizeable minority who gleefully earned/maintain that reputation for us all will go forth and multiply, but I don't hold out much hope.

bfcjg · Post by **bfcjg** » Mon Sep 04, 2023 2:13 pm

AfloatinClaret wrote: ↑
Mon Sep 04, 2023 2:05 pm
If the cap fits and all that... Perhaps in the fullness of time that sizeable minority who gleefully earned/maintain that reputation for us all will go forth and multiply, but I don't hold out much hope.

The same indignant holier than than you Plymouth fans who racially abused John Francis throughout the playoff second leg.

fidelcastro · Post by **fidelcastro** » Mon Sep 04, 2023 2:55 pm

bfcjg wrote: ↑
Mon Sep 04, 2023 1:42 pm
Go on twitter or X as it is now, the massive overreaction from fans stating we are knuckle daggers etc,there was even Plymouth fans harping on about a minor incident over 30 years ago.

There's a reason I avoid Twitter like the plague, but our resident police officer mentioned the media, not other clubs' fans trying to score cheap points.

claretonthecoast1882 · Post by **claretonthecoast1882** » Mon Sep 04, 2023 2:56 pm

42 year old arrested in connection with assault on Keane

karatekid · Post by **karatekid** » Mon Sep 04, 2023 3:28 pm

Culmclaret wrote: ↑
Mon Sep 04, 2023 11:12 am
Turned out that a bottle of pop was lobbed at him by some kids in an underpass……

At least it wasn’t a prawn sandwich

Middle-agedClaret · Post by **Middle-agedClaret** » Mon Sep 04, 2023 4:06 pm

Got to be careful with those knuckle daggers…

claret2018 · Post by **claret2018** » Mon Sep 04, 2023 4:14 pm

Burnley fans are in the media when they do stupid things, which unfortunately is a bit more often than most other clubs.

Paul Waine · Post by **Paul Waine** » Mon Sep 04, 2023 7:04 pm

Arrest made after Arsenal fan allegedly headbutts Roy Keane
Former Ireland midfielder was working as Sky Sports pundit at Emirates Stadium for Arsenal vs Manchester United

Martyn Ziegler, Chief Sports Reporter, Monday September 04 2023, 2.50pm, The Times

Police have arrested a 42-year-old man on suspicion of assault after Roy Keane was allegedly headbutted during Arsenal’s victory over Manchester United at the Emirates Stadium on Sunday.

Keane was confronted in the stadium’s West Stand as he waited for a lift down to pitch level and his fellow Sky Sports pundit Micah Richards was seen restraining a man in a video posted on social media.

The pair continued their broadcasting duties after the incident, which happened just after United’s Alejandro Garnacho had an 88th-minute goal ruled out for offside.

A report in the Daily Mail said that the man allegedly aimed a headbutt at Keane and hit the former Ireland international on the chest and chin, but the 52-year-old brushed off any effect of the impact.

A Sky Sports spokeswoman said: “We understand the police are investigating an alleged assault by a member of the public immediately preceding the footage circulating on social media. In the footage seen, Micah Richards was acting to defuse a situation.”

he Metropolitan Police confirmed that an investigation had been launched, saying in a statement: “Police are investigating following an assault that is alleged to have occurred at the Emirates Stadium during an Arsenal v Manchester United match on Sunday, September 3.” It later confirmed that an arrest has been made.

Keane had a tempestuous relationship with Arsenal during his playing days, often clashing with his rival captain Patrick Vieira.

Garnacho’s goal would have given United a 2-1 lead if it had not been ruled out, but Arsenal scored two goals in stoppage time to clinch a 3-1 win.

An Arsenal spokesman said: “We are aware of an incident that took place during our match against Manchester United on Sunday. The Metropolitan Police are conducting an investigation into the matter and we are fully co-operating with their enquiries.”

evensteadiereddie · Post by **evensteadiereddie** » Mon Sep 04, 2023 7:21 pm

Is this the same Keane who was supposed to be a hardcase?

AlargeClaret · Post by **AlargeClaret** » Mon Sep 04, 2023 8:59 pm

As it’s the perma darlings of London football , this will quickly disappear and be classed for what it is ,a lone idiotic ( probs p1ssed up) fan .

Though a mere pop bottle induced the Athletic no less ,to put out a ludicrous story of “ bricked “ coaches, motorway bridges and “ extensive damage “ . The Twitter cesspit was in absolute “Burnley inbred “ hysteria .

Tricky Trevor · Post by **Tricky Trevor** » Mon Sep 04, 2023 9:03 pm

evensteadiereddie wrote: ↑
Mon Sep 04, 2023 7:21 pm
Is this the same Keane who was supposed to be a hardcase?

Did you miss where he carried on with his media duties?

Jakubclaret · Post by **Jakubclaret** » Mon Sep 04, 2023 9:07 pm

Tricky Trevor wrote: ↑
Mon Sep 04, 2023 9:03 pm
Did you miss where he carried on with his media duties?

That 1 was missed on me as well, just because somebody is meant to be hard does not make them immune from lunatic nutters & he's hardly likely to retaliate he'd probably lose his job.

Casper2 · Post by **Casper2** » Mon Sep 04, 2023 9:40 pm

evensteadiereddie wrote: ↑
Mon Sep 04, 2023 7:21 pm
Is this the same Keane who was supposed to be a hardcase?

Dear me , you really posted that

evensteadiereddie · Post by **evensteadiereddie** » Tue Sep 05, 2023 7:33 am

Certainly did.
Quite justified bearing in mind the cowardly thug, also a brilliant player, was quite happy to revel in the role of hard man.
A different set of rules apply off the field, of course, but even so you'd expect someone attacked, allegedly, attempt to defend himself.
Fair play for his restraint - if that's what it was....

Jakubclaret · Post by **Jakubclaret** » Tue Sep 05, 2023 7:37 am

Potentially preserving his job status was probably at the fore, I don't think it would have gone down to well with his employers having a brawl irrespective of who started it.

CardyTheClaret · Post by **CardyTheClaret** » Tue Sep 05, 2023 7:48 am

evensteadiereddie wrote: ↑
Tue Sep 05, 2023 7:33 am
Certainly did.
Quite justified bearing in mind the cowardly thug, also a brilliant player, was quite happy to revel in the role of hard man.
A different set of rules apply off the field, of course, but even so you'd expect someone attacked, allegedly, attempt to defend himself.
Fair play for his restraint - if that's what it was....

Pathetic.

Hapag Lloyd · Post by **Hapag Lloyd** » Tue Sep 05, 2023 7:58 am

evensteadiereddie wrote: ↑
Mon Sep 04, 2023 7:21 pm
Is this the same Keane who was supposed to be a hardcase?

Obviously not as hard as you Eddie

evensteadiereddie · Post by **evensteadiereddie** » Tue Sep 05, 2023 9:44 am

CardyTheClaret wrote: ↑
Tue Sep 05, 2023 7:48 am
Pathetic.

I thought so too.
Hard man on the pitch....

evensteadiereddie · Post by **evensteadiereddie** » Tue Sep 05, 2023 9:44 am

Hapag Lloyd wrote: ↑
Tue Sep 05, 2023 7:58 am
Obviously not as hard as you Eddie

Goes without saying, Hap.

willsclarets · Post by **willsclarets** » Tue Sep 05, 2023 10:07 am

This is a man who was daft enough start a fight with Peter Schmeical, so I don't think he's a coward. But it's a daft thing to say anyway, he's a grown man. Why would he get into a fight with some random thug.

evensteadiereddie · Post by **evensteadiereddie** » Tue Sep 05, 2023 10:59 am

I'm not sure getting into a fight is the same as defending yourself after being headbutted, allegedly, but there you go.
As I said, fair play to him for his restraint if that's what it was.

HahaYeah · Post by **HahaYeah** » Tue Sep 05, 2023 11:06 am

Is Roy Keane not a hard man now because he didn't put the other guy in hospital?

Happen he just laughed the assault off.

Rick_Muller · Post by **Rick_Muller** » Tue Sep 05, 2023 11:07 am

evensteadiereddie wrote: ↑
Tue Sep 05, 2023 10:59 am
I'm not sure getting into a fight is the same as defending yourself after being headbutted, allegedly, but there you go.
As I said, fair play to him for his restraint if that's what it was.

I'm sure Roy would have managed to handle himself had it escalated, he's certainly got the character to be able to do that. It is a testament to him that he was restrained, and that reflects my experience with "proper" hard men in life - they know they dont need to respond and are restrained and more often than not they can diffuse situations without any blows because they are "hard" and whoever is confronting them do have a quick "f#ck about and find out" realisation before it escalates too. Just my experience of course.

evensteadiereddie · Post by **evensteadiereddie** » Tue Sep 05, 2023 12:51 pm

Indeed.
Completely different to the self-styled hard man image he perpetuated on a football pitch.

Middle-agedClaret · Post by **Middle-agedClaret** » Tue Sep 05, 2023 1:02 pm

Just an observation - fans who weren’t present at the Villa bus incident are forensically certain as to what happened.
Fans who weren’t present at the Roy Keane incident are equally clear on the details.
What must it be like to have such unfettered certainty!

bpgburn · Post by **bpgburn** » Tue Sep 05, 2023 1:03 pm

evensteadiereddie wrote: ↑
Tue Sep 05, 2023 12:51 pm
Indeed.
Completely different to the self-styled hard man image he perpetuated on a football pitch.

So you expected him to defend himself and pan the shite out of a bloke who had been immediately pinned against a wall and rendered defenseless by Micah Richards? That would be more the actions of a coward not a hardman, something you would have done maybe?

evensteadiereddie · Post by **evensteadiereddie** » Tue Sep 05, 2023 1:11 pm

I expected him to defend himself.
It looks as though his big mate stepped in anyway.
I reckon most people wouldn't accept being nutted for no reason.
Whether their, or my, response would be as dramatic as you make out is debatable.
For what it's worth, I'm neither a coward nor a hard man. Hope that helps.

Falcon · Post by **Falcon** » Tue Sep 05, 2023 1:18 pm

What exactly should he have done then Eddie? Given Richards apparently had the bloke pinned to a wall in fairly short order. I'd be happy my mate stepped in to diffuse things.

claretonthecoast1882 · Post by **claretonthecoast1882** » Tue Sep 05, 2023 1:19 pm

The story doing the rounds is that the guy went to headbutt Keane and managed to land one on his shoulder then within 2-3 seconds Richards had hold of him. Not sure what Keane should have done in the split second someone has unsuspectedly done this. Should he have punched him a few times ?

You can imagine the comments aimed at Keane had he swung a few punches at someone pinned to a wall.

evensteadiereddie · Post by **evensteadiereddie** » Tue Sep 05, 2023 1:58 pm

If the big lad did step in before Keane could retaliate then fair dos.
Bit harsh pressing charges on a shoulder butt but if you can t act in self defence, nail the pillock in court.

AlargeClaret · Post by **AlargeClaret** » Tue Sep 05, 2023 2:53 pm

bpgburn wrote: ↑
Tue Sep 05, 2023 1:03 pm
So you expected him to defend himself and pan the shite out of a bloke who had been immediately pinned against a wall and rendered defenseless by Micah Richards? That would be more the actions of a coward not a hardman, something you would have done maybe?

“Rendered defenceless by Micah Richards”

.The shame alone should be enough punishment for the bloke .

While Keane made no attempt whatsoever to throw any punches at his attacker ( prone or otherwise ) he’d have been fully justified in responding with reasonable /appropriate force .

evensteadiereddie · Post by **evensteadiereddie** » Wed Sep 06, 2023 6:46 pm

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