Matt Williams on the transfer window

RVclaret · Post by **RVclaret** » Mon Sep 04, 2023 12:34 pm

Brilliant interview with Radio Lancs on Saturday just been published:

https://x.com/bbclancssport/status/1698 ... 96347?s=46

Quite interesting to see what goes on, stuff with Maatsen, what delayed the Tresor deal etc.

CoolClaret · Post by **CoolClaret** » Mon Sep 04, 2023 12:44 pm

Was interesting until he reeled off ludicrous statements like “Vincent is the best thing to happen to Burnley in the history of the club”

claretonthecoast1882 · Post by **claretonthecoast1882** » Mon Sep 04, 2023 12:46 pm

RVclaret wrote: ↑
Mon Sep 04, 2023 12:34 pm
Brilliant interview with Radio Lancs on Saturday just been published:

https://x.com/bbclancssport/status/1698 ... 96347?s=46

Quite interesting to see what goes on, stuff with Maatsen, what delayed the Tresor deal etc.

The truth when you listen to people involved is always very different to how things pan out on football manager.

123EasyasBFC · Post by **123EasyasBFC** » Mon Sep 04, 2023 12:51 pm

He does say on there that agents are throwing free agents names to the club, which is interesting. But he does also swerve the question at the end about the left back position

BobSykes · Post by **BobSykes** » Mon Sep 04, 2023 12:56 pm

Sounds like a free agent is being actively considered from that, then again i do get the impression MW may be wanting to engage and keep folk onside so may have given false hope. I suspect we shouldn't read too much in to that

Seems a decent chap though and trying to bring some transparency which has been missing before

Does allude to a bit of ongoing commercial naievity on our part in some of his comments but clearly better now at it than we recently were!

We live in hope...

BobSykes · Post by **BobSykes** » Mon Sep 04, 2023 12:57 pm

He's made Tresor out to be a bit of a useless chump too. Hope his footballing skills outperform his travel planning ones!

claretandy · Post by **claretandy** » Mon Sep 04, 2023 1:06 pm

So maatsen wanted to come earlier in the window but Chelsea wouldn't let him, and by the time that they would let him, he didn't want to come.

bf2k · Post by **bf2k** » Mon Sep 04, 2023 1:14 pm

Good interview and very inciteful. I'm impressed that people at the club are coming out and doing these types of interviews recently. Really opening up the communication routes rather than learning things from journalists who always put their own spin on things.

Of course some people always find ways to bash the club though.

Fretters · Post by **Fretters** » Mon Sep 04, 2023 1:15 pm

He references Kompany talking to players before deals have been agreed, and this seems to be happening all over now. When did 'tapping up' stop being a thing?

Swizzlestick · Post by **Swizzlestick** » Mon Sep 04, 2023 1:19 pm

claretandy wrote: ↑
Mon Sep 04, 2023 1:06 pm
So maatsen wanted to come earlier in the window but Chelsea wouldn't let him, and by the time that they would let him, he didn't want to come.

Not listened to the interview yet, but this is exactly what I thought had happened. And to be fair to the club, we were obviously looking at other options, such as Hartman, when Chelsea initially said no. Poch obviously gave Maatsen more encouragement he'd see more first team minutes which appears to have changed his mind latter part of the window. Perhaps we should have foreseen this, but I just think it was unfortunate more than anything.

1989_claret · Post by **1989_claret** » Mon Sep 04, 2023 1:22 pm

Really good interview. Was impressed by Matt on MTB too.

NewClaret · Post by **NewClaret** » Mon Sep 04, 2023 1:32 pm

Massively impressed by Matt whenever I hear him speak. So knowledgeable and clearly a massive cog in our operation. He’ll be massive shoes to fill if he ever leaves, for sure.

Also massive judos to the club for organising this interview. It was clearly designed to head off some of the missplaced criticism about the window and achieves that perfectly.

I’d love to hear more from Matt generally but especially during transfer windows? Maybe regular interviews with him on how it’s going, challenges, regulations, etc.

RVclaret · Post by **RVclaret** » Mon Sep 04, 2023 1:36 pm

BobSykes wrote: ↑
Mon Sep 04, 2023 12:57 pm
He's made Tresor out to be a bit of a useless chump too. Hope his footballing skills outperform his travel planning ones!

I thought the bit on Tresor was interesting, he suggested the player hadn’t u-turned on joining us at all (which is what the media had us believe) and in fact did everything he could to get here for the medical, despite missing the flight. Also how earlier in the window we were keen but Genk asked for a much higher fee than the one we ended up paying.

ClaretTony · Post by **ClaretTony** » Mon Sep 04, 2023 1:40 pm

Matt is suddenly becoming a front man at the club - his appearances on Mission, then co-commentator last Saturday and now Radio Lancs interviews. I won't polish his ego too much but I'd say that Burnley FC are very fortunate to have him at our club.

123EasyasBFC · Post by **123EasyasBFC** » Mon Sep 04, 2023 2:09 pm

BobSykes wrote: ↑
Mon Sep 04, 2023 12:56 pm
Sounds like a free agent is being actively considered from that, then again i do get the impression MW may be wanting to engage and keep folk onside so may have given false hope. I suspect we shouldn't read too much in to that

Seems a decent chap though and trying to bring some transparency which has been missing before

Does allude to a bit of ongoing commercial naievity on our part in some of his comments but clearly better now at it than we recently were!

We live in hope...

Once the official 25 man squad is announced they will give us an idea if there’s potentially a free agent in the thinking, if there’s squad place then every chance

Pickles · Post by **Pickles** » Mon Sep 04, 2023 2:11 pm

Anyone got a good list of current free agents?

Reggie Cannon for right back perhaps?

NewClaret · Post by **NewClaret** » Mon Sep 04, 2023 2:23 pm

ClaretTony wrote: ↑
Mon Sep 04, 2023 1:40 pm
Matt is suddenly becoming a front man at the club - his appearances on Mission, then co-commentator last Saturday and now Radio Lancs interviews. I won't polish his ego too much but I'd say that Burnley FC are very fortunate to have him at our club.

Completely agree Tony. I hope ALK realise this and are looking after him. More of him in front of camera wouldn’t go amiss.

123EasyasBFC · Post by **123EasyasBFC** » Mon Sep 04, 2023 2:26 pm

It does seem slightly strange that we waited till deadline day to see if Chelsea changed their mind on Maatsen without seeing if Maatsen was still keen on the move, the model for every other position seems to if player A doesn’t become available we then move on, for example al-dakhil last summer which turn resulted in Beyer

ClaretTony · Post by **ClaretTony** » Mon Sep 04, 2023 2:31 pm

NewClaret wrote: ↑
Mon Sep 04, 2023 2:23 pm
Completely agree Tony. I hope ALK realise this and are looking after him. More of him in front of camera wouldn’t go amiss.

I'm not so sure he'd want to do more in front of the camera to be honest.

NewClaret · Post by **NewClaret** » Mon Sep 04, 2023 2:33 pm

123EasyasBFC wrote: ↑
Mon Sep 04, 2023 2:26 pm
It does seem slightly strange that we waited till deadline day to see if Chelsea changed their mind on Maatsen without seeing if Maatsen was still keen on the move, the model for every other position seems to if player A doesn’t become available we then move on, for example al-dakhil last summer which turn resulted in Beyer

Reading between the lines, we were confident Chelsea would change their minds. And they did when the Cucurella deal fell through.

I find it strange that Maatsen would want to stay in a team that were willing to sell him, but maybe it all just came too late when he was settled and focussed on what he was doing?

Can tell from Matt’s interview that we tried for other targets and that they either fell through, were too expensive, etc. I don’t think we should go for anyone just because they’re available, they have to be right.

ArmchairDetective · Post by **ArmchairDetective** » Mon Sep 04, 2023 3:04 pm

Really good to see openness from the club and club staff such as this. It's great for the fans and I'll bet it makes it harder for agents/players to mess us around going forward when our approach is so transparent. Heard a couple of times now about us backing out of deals where agents ask too much etc.

Matt Williams seems a real asset and should be very happy with what he and the team have done in the market since last summer. Sounds like we were a bit unfortunate with the LB situation but certainly not for want of trying to sort it out. The fact that a lot of us are getting hung up on not filling one specific position maybe shows how good we've actually had it. It's not that long ago that we needed to strengthen pretty much all over the pitch and seemingly couldn't strengthen anywhere.

Interested to see if something comes of these free agents but I think we'll have enough about us with the signings we've made to kick on until January when we can strengthen again.

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Firthy · Post by **Firthy** » Mon Sep 04, 2023 3:05 pm

Pickles wrote: ↑
Mon Sep 04, 2023 2:11 pm
Anyone got a good list of current free agents?

Reggie Cannon for right back perhaps?

Just waiting for the list of free agent left backs out there. I'm sure someone who is more knowledgeable will post one soon

Pickles · Post by **Pickles** » Mon Sep 04, 2023 3:08 pm

List of free agents on Transkfermarkt

https://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/statist ... osespieler

Goody1975 · Post by **Goody1975** » Mon Sep 04, 2023 3:11 pm

Pickles wrote: ↑
Mon Sep 04, 2023 2:11 pm
Anyone got a good list of current free agents?

Reggie Cannon for right back perhaps?

Reggie Cannon may be in dispute with his former employers, not sure if he'll sign for anyone till that is resolved.

agreenwood · Post by **agreenwood** » Mon Sep 04, 2023 3:23 pm

Yairo Moreno played for Columbia and is still in his 20s. I know nothing about him beyond that. Left back pickings are slim.

Not much better on the CM front, although I see Gbamin is a free agent. Had a poor spell at Everton, but he’s a big-ish CDM and appears to have had a decent career pre-Goodison. Everton paid £25m for him.

claretonthecoast1882 · Post by **claretonthecoast1882** » Mon Sep 04, 2023 3:25 pm

agreenwood wrote: ↑
Mon Sep 04, 2023 3:23 pm
Yairo Moreno played for Columbia and is still in his 20s. I know nothing about him beyond that. Left back pickings are slim.

Not much better on the CM front, although I see Gbamin is a free agent. Had a poor spell at Everton, but he’s a big-ish CDM and appears to have had a decent career pre-Goodison. Everton paid £25m for him.

We should sign Gbamin and sell him to Everton in January for 20m

Vegas Claret · Post by **Vegas Claret** » Mon Sep 04, 2023 3:27 pm

cracking interview.

willsclarets · Post by **willsclarets** » Mon Sep 04, 2023 3:32 pm

Really good interview! Great insight. Right at the very end I felt myself go "Eeek" a little bit. The assumption that some of these lads with treble and quadruple in value is a tad dangerous when you spend 100+ million and several young players vying for similar positions. But in the main it is the the model we all wanted, and realistically the only one that allows us to compete moving forward.

Taffy on the wing · Post by **Taffy on the wing** » Mon Sep 04, 2023 3:35 pm

NewClaret wrote: ↑
Mon Sep 04, 2023 1:32 pm
Massively impressed by Matt whenever I hear him speak. So knowledgeable and clearly a massive cog in our operation. He’ll be massive shoes to fill if he ever leaves, for sure.

Also massive judos to the club for organising this interview. It was clearly designed to head off some of the missplaced criticism about the window and achieves that perfectly.

I’d love to hear more from Matt generally but especially during transfer windows? Maybe regular interviews with him on how it’s going, challenges, regulations, etc.

Matt is Massive man!

claret2018 · Post by **claret2018** » Mon Sep 04, 2023 3:39 pm

I didn’t realise Phil Jones had left Utd, or that Andre Gray is without a club

NewClaret · Post by **NewClaret** » Mon Sep 04, 2023 3:39 pm

claret2018 wrote: ↑
Mon Sep 04, 2023 3:39 pm
I didn’t realise Phil Jones had left Utd, or that Andre Gray is without a club

Don’t get any ideas!

AfloatinClaret · Post by **AfloatinClaret** » Mon Sep 04, 2023 3:40 pm

Firthy wrote: ↑
Mon Sep 04, 2023 3:05 pm
Just waiting for the list of free agent left backs out there...

I'm not signed with anyone and have played a good few games at left back; then again, that was 1970/80s, so I'm maybe not going to meet the age demographic that the club seem to be aiming for?

AfloatinClaret · Post by **AfloatinClaret** » Mon Sep 04, 2023 3:45 pm

bf2k wrote: ↑
Mon Sep 04, 2023 1:14 pm
...opening up the communication routes rather than learning things from journalists who always put their own spin on things.

I'm certainly not knocking either the interview or the concept, but bear in mind that these things aren't 'spin-free' either, just that it's spun to suit the club's agenda rather than that of someone else.

CrosspoolClarets · Post by **CrosspoolClarets** » Mon Sep 04, 2023 3:47 pm

Matt does seem impressive whenever he talks, to be honest anyone in a senior role like that should, we sometimes get used to low standards. But we are lucky to have him, no doubt.

Three things spring to mind from that BBC interview:

1. What a shambles Chelsea are. If they don’t want him by the end, tell him, but there seemed no consensus. It sounds like the Matt equivalent wanted or needed the sale but Poch kept on the fence. If Poch had rang Maatsen and said “sorry, you’re not in my plans” he would have left. I’m not convinced Poch does want him as any more than a utility player upfield for a few minutes if there are injuries in the squad. Then there is the new contract situation, has he signed one? He isn’t on big wages now, surely he would have to sign a new deal to stay? Despite what Matt said, the rumour that it fell down on personal terms cannot be discounted. It doesn’t fully add up. Instinct - the player has dropped a clanger, terrible career decision, but we will see.

2. It sounds like Kompany taps up players all the time. It was worded as though Kompany persuades the player before the clubs negotiate.

3. This “best thing ever” is just hyperbole, nothing wrong with that but irrelevant. Remains to be seen of course, three managers have got us up and one kept us up for ages, and that is before thinking about pre-Premier history. This new signing model (triple, quadruple our outlay when we sell a player etc) seems as much ALK as VK. I like VK a lot but if we make him the messiah his ego will go even higher and I’m not sure that is good for us.

claret2018 · Post by **claret2018** » Mon Sep 04, 2023 3:47 pm

NewClaret wrote: ↑
Mon Sep 04, 2023 3:39 pm
Don’t get any ideas!

Has PJ ever played at left back I wonder??

Vegas Claret · Post by **Vegas Claret** » Mon Sep 04, 2023 3:50 pm

we should sign Phil Jones, Vinny will get him in the England squad and we can sell him back to Man Utd for 50 million

willsclarets · Post by **willsclarets** » Mon Sep 04, 2023 3:50 pm

agreenwood wrote: ↑
Mon Sep 04, 2023 3:23 pm
Yairo Moreno played for Columbia and is still in his 20s. I know nothing about him beyond that. Left back pickings are slim.

Not much better on the CM front, although I see Gbamin is a free agent. Had a poor spell at Everton, but he’s a big-ish CDM and appears to have had a decent career pre-Goodison. Everton paid £25m for him.

Just had did some in-depth scouting on Youtube for Moreno. And forgetting the different culture and quality of opposition, he looks an good en. Get him signed!

Nori1958 · Post by **Nori1958** » Mon Sep 04, 2023 3:51 pm

How does someone miss a flight on a private jet?

NewClaret · Post by **NewClaret** » Mon Sep 04, 2023 4:03 pm

Nori1958 wrote: ↑
Mon Sep 04, 2023 3:51 pm
How does someone miss a flight on a private jet?

My guess is that his agent didn’t authorise him to fly despite a deal being done between clubs as part of his negotiation with Burnley, but they found a commercial flight solution pretty quickly.

NewClaret · Post by **NewClaret** » Mon Sep 04, 2023 4:10 pm

ClaretTony wrote: ↑
Mon Sep 04, 2023 2:31 pm
I'm not so sure he'd want to do more in front of the camera to be honest.

Maybe not. I’m sure I wouldn’t if I were in his shoes, I’d hate it. He can take some reassurance from being a natural - comes across great on camera.

Firthy · Post by **Firthy** » Mon Sep 04, 2023 4:15 pm

Nori1958 wrote: ↑
Mon Sep 04, 2023 3:51 pm
How does someone miss a flight on a private jet?

You don't board the plane

summitclaret · Post by **summitclaret** » Mon Sep 04, 2023 4:18 pm

All ooc left backs.

https://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/spieler ... e&yt0=Show

BigGaz · Post by **BigGaz** » Mon Sep 04, 2023 4:31 pm

Schulz is an interesting one.

Signed for Dortmund for 25m and was getting in the Germany team but a combination of injuries, the form of Rafael Geurreiro and an accusation of domestic violence saw him frozen out and he never kicked on, just 40 games in 4 years with them.

He was an absolute baller at one point, definite quality there but whether he’s motivated to put it to use is another story

MrTopTier · Post by **MrTopTier** » Mon Sep 04, 2023 4:35 pm

ClaretTony wrote: ↑
Mon Sep 04, 2023 1:40 pm
Matt is suddenly becoming a front man at the club - his appearances on Mission, then co-commentator last Saturday and now Radio Lancs interviews. I won't polish his ego too much but I'd say that Burnley FC are very fortunate to have him at our club.

Matt Williams was exceptionally highly thought of at Blackpool and managed to navigate himself a successful career. Worked at Blackpool during the worst of the Oyston years and Blackpool fans hold him in the highest regard, so no real surprise to the positive comments on this thread.

AlargeClaret · Post by **AlargeClaret** » Mon Sep 04, 2023 4:38 pm

Always very interesting indeed to hear about the clubs dealings literally from the horses mouth . He comes over well as he did in “ MTB” in what is presumably a “ strategic piece “ from the club to allay any concerns about our adventurous transfer dealings . Chelsea sound utter ar@es , though the “triple/quad player value “ is a bit optimistic in most cases I’d imagine, and very much dependent on a decent team .There’s a touch of (slightly queasy) building VK up as a Messiah but VK’s aura is obviously infectious around the club .

Onwards and upwards

ClaretTony · Post by **ClaretTony** » Mon Sep 04, 2023 5:15 pm

MrTopTier wrote: ↑
Mon Sep 04, 2023 4:35 pm
Matt Williams was exceptionally highly thought of at Blackpool and managed to navigate himself a successful career. Worked at Blackpool during the worst of the Oyston years and Blackpool fans hold him in the highest regard, so no real surprise to the positive comments on this thread.

He was at Blackpool for a good number of years before moving to Shrewsbury. I’ve known Matt since he arrived at Burnley in early 2016 but he’s now becoming so much better known because of his appearing in front of the camera. Really good guy.

burnley007 · Post by **burnley007** » Mon Sep 04, 2023 5:59 pm

Talk of free agents...so I had a look...

https://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/yairo-m ... ler/331756

https://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/souleym ... ler/296356

Jakubs Tash · Post by **Jakubs Tash** » Mon Sep 04, 2023 6:06 pm

Good interview which I enjoyed listening to.

However, maybe it’s the cynic in me but, I don’t really believe the Tresor story. It was pretty common knowledge he wasn’t sure about the move to Burnley and changed his mind several times. Even in his interview after he signed its was a little awkward when asked about the ‘was it on or off’ question. I think this could be a story the club have tried to push to take the pressure off the player and the damage it could potentially cause with his relationship with the fans before it’s even begun.

Quickenthetempo · Post by **Quickenthetempo** » Mon Sep 04, 2023 7:39 pm

ClaretTony wrote: ↑
Mon Sep 04, 2023 5:15 pm
He was at Blackpool for a good number of years before moving to Shrewsbury. I’ve known Matt since he arrived at Burnley in early 2016 but he’s now becoming so much better known because of his appearing in front of the camera. Really good guy.

Next time you see him, have a little chat about the Clubs history.
There's one or two people that will rival Vinny to his claim.

123EasyasBFC · Post by **123EasyasBFC** » Mon Sep 04, 2023 8:00 pm

That comment about kompany being the best thing to happen to Burnley really isn’t that deep, he’s just made a comment about someone he’s working with on a day to day basis who he sees how hard they work and the main reason we got back to the premier league