Would you take relegation IF

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Would you take relegation IF

Post by ClaretsPadiham » Thu Sep 14, 2023 12:03 pm

1. When we went down we was guaranteed another Championship season like last season where we play beautiful football and blitz the league at the first attempt.


2. Kompany stays and we are in a much stronger position when we got promoted, because let’s be honest we didn’t expect to be up so soon and this season is going to be a struggle.

I think that would be the perfect scenario, last season was the best season iv has watching Burnley and due to how unexpected it was it’s left us abit ahead of schedule.
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Re: Would you take relegation IF

Post by Pickles » Thu Sep 14, 2023 12:10 pm

I'm not answering either question here so soz but I don't really buy the ahead of schedule thing. Kompany doesn't go to a team in the Championship if promotion isn't front and centre. In Mission To Burnley, it's clear to me that Pace and his boys want us back in the Prem at the first time of asking. In public though, it's useful for them to say we're ahead of schedule. And in some ways we are. But not in terms of the league we're in.
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Re: Would you take relegation IF

Post by Chester Perry » Thu Sep 14, 2023 12:15 pm

Pickles wrote:
Thu Sep 14, 2023 12:10 pm
I'm not answering either question here so soz but I don't really buy the ahead of schedule thing. Kompany doesn't go to a team in the Championship if promotion isn't front and centre. In Mission To Burnley, it's clear to me that Pace and his boys want us back in the Prem at the first time of asking. In public though, it's useful for them to say we're ahead of schedule. And in some ways we are. But not in terms of the league we're in.
The ALK/VSL guys effectively said they went all in on promotion last season
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Re: Would you take relegation IF

Post by GodIsADeeJay81 » Thu Sep 14, 2023 12:22 pm

I’d never choose relegation
I understand that it can be a benefit to a club in that it allows a squad overhaul and reset etc but there is no guarantee of promotion
We could come straight back up but equally we could stay there for a prolonged period whilst circulating the drain like all the rest

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Re: Would you take relegation IF

Post by Joe14 » Thu Sep 14, 2023 12:34 pm

Barely 1 month in and relegation posts start popping up. So flipping defeatist. Let’s give it time before we all start having a melt down. VK knows what he’s doing!!!
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Re: Would you take relegation IF

Post by Carwin261 » Thu Sep 14, 2023 12:40 pm

Would take it if we sold Koleosho ,Benson ,and Tresor for £150 mill ,and brought in even better,beat Rovers 5-0 at Deadwood to reach 100 points after 31 games ,extended The Turf to house 35,000 and filled it every game ,oh and I was 21 again and won £30 mill on the lottery.(am I being greedy?)

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Re: Would you take relegation IF

Post by dsr » Thu Sep 14, 2023 12:43 pm

Carwin261 wrote:
Thu Sep 14, 2023 12:40 pm
Would take it if we sold Koleosho ,Benson ,and Tresor for £150 mill ,and brought in even better,beat Rovers 5-0 at Deadwood to reach 100 points after 31 games ,extended The Turf to house 35,000 and filled it every game ,oh and I was 21 again and won £30 mill on the lottery.(am I being greedy?)
You are with the 100 points in 31 games! The rest seems reasonable.
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Re: Would you take relegation IF

Post by Dark Cloud » Thu Sep 14, 2023 1:16 pm

To me, the "ahead of schedule" thing is largely an irrelevance. I actually do believe that Pace, Kompony and everyone else at the club hoped rather than believed we'd get back up at the first time of asking, especially given the amount of player turnover which followed our relegation. But the fact is we did get back up and we did it at a canter tbf and it was clear well before the end of the season where we'd be playing this season. And that's what concerns me. We've had plenty of time to address what was going to be required in the top league and yet we look somewhat shell shocked at present. As arguably the best defender in Europe in his day and a PL winner to boot, VK must know the standard needed to compete and although we've bought a shed load of young, talented, fast, dynamic and extremely attacking minded players we've looked ponderous in midfield and an extremely soft touch at the back and that has to be worrying. The players we've brought in are going to struggle to increase their sell on value as per our widely acknowledged business plan when we have our backs against the wall and are struggling every week. Nobody should be wheeling out the "well it all arrived ahead of schedule" mantra, because whether that's true or not, we still had loads of time to strengthen the right areas and that (imo) means starting by making it far, far harder for the opposition to score.
PS. In VK I trust!!

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Re: Would you take relegation IF

Post by 4midable » Thu Sep 14, 2023 1:51 pm

Id love to be in the championship
Prem is overated

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Re: Would you take relegation IF

Post by AlargeClaret » Thu Sep 14, 2023 2:17 pm

I don’t buy into this “ we never expected to get back up so quick “ horsesh1t. We were an established prem club with decent player assets we banked , kept a decent nucleus and brought in some very decent players and quality prem loans along with a v expensive respected young manager .

The ramifications for ALK if we’d stayed down could have got very squeaky bum indeed . We should never accept relegation and I don’t believe it will be an issue .

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Re: Would you take relegation IF

Post by jrgbfc » Thu Sep 14, 2023 3:50 pm

What will be will be, it's not worth worrying about. If we do end up getting relegated there's plenty of positives about being back in the Championship.

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Re: Would you take relegation IF

Post by LoveCurryPies » Thu Sep 14, 2023 3:55 pm

Some people want the safety of rowing boats in Thompson park, rather than the thrill of sailing a yacht on the ocean.

To those people….supporting Blackburn Rovers is an option. :lol:

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Re: Would you take relegation IF

Post by Claretforever » Thu Sep 14, 2023 4:11 pm

We are not ahead of schedule. They will have hoped for a year 1 promotion, and gave VK all the ammunition required, but possibly expected that we’d at least be up by year 2.

We began buying for the Premier League in January and have had all summer to buy players. VK knows what it takes and so it’s just about getting the players gelled and acclimatised to Premier League football. Relegation would be a failure. I accept that with such a young squad, which is almost a fully new one again with all the signings, we’re not going to be pulling up any trees, but 15th-17th has to be a minimum requirement. We’ve only played 3 matches. When we get to 10-12 (end Oct/early Nov) we’ll know how it’s likely going to pan out.

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Re: Would you take relegation IF

Post by Colburn_Claret » Thu Sep 14, 2023 4:24 pm

No
It would be nice if promotion were a guarantee, but this is the real world.
We're here, and all we have to do is out perform 3 teams.
Why be so negative 😕

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Re: Would you take relegation IF

Post by tarkys_ears » Thu Sep 14, 2023 6:06 pm

I'd rather the "big six" all sooner **** off to their Grand League or whatever they're gonna call it and leave the regular football to the likes of us.

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Re: Would you take relegation IF

Post by BurnleyFC » Thu Sep 14, 2023 6:35 pm

The worst part of winning the Championship is having to play in the Premier League the season after.

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Re: Would you take relegation IF

Post by dougcollins » Thu Sep 14, 2023 7:20 pm

BurnleyFC wrote:
Thu Sep 14, 2023 6:35 pm
The worst part of winning the Championship is having to play in the Premier League the season after.
Yep. But the problem is, we don't want a relegation.

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Re: Would you take relegation IF

Post by dougcollins » Thu Sep 14, 2023 7:20 pm

BurnleyFC wrote:
Thu Sep 14, 2023 6:35 pm
The worst part of winning the Championship is having to play in the Premier League the season after.
Yep. But the problem is, we don't want a relegation.

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Re: Would you take relegation IF

Post by dougcollins » Thu Sep 14, 2023 7:21 pm

You can say that again.
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Re: Would you take relegation IF

Post by Wile E Coyote » Thu Sep 14, 2023 10:19 pm

last season was incredible, more so because of what actually happened. dyche going, relegation, new manager, players leaving and new ones coming in. looked potentially a right mess. Instead though it was a joy to behold. I havent got a clue whether there is or was talk about schedules, but we are in the top flight again.
Reality is though we are not a rich club in comparison to the so called elites in the league.
I believe Kompany knows his onions, and whilst he isn't doing the same things as his predecessor, he is still restricted in implementing a "plan" if the finances dont allow it. Ultimately he has to do his best with what he has.
I was a bit shell shocked at how things picked up last season to finish champions in a very very difficult division. It is a better than the premier in lots of ways, but im certain most fans want top flight football .
Its high stakes , new owners and investors wanting success ASAP, and a fanbase that crave the same thing, but are used to changes over the years. However ambitious Vincent Kompany may be, he will be single minded in ensuring Burnley improve under his leadership.

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Re: Would you take relegation IF

Post by Wile E Coyote » Thu Sep 14, 2023 10:28 pm

Joe14 wrote:
Thu Sep 14, 2023 12:34 pm
Barely 1 month in and relegation posts start popping up. So flipping defeatist. Let’s give it time before we all start having a melt down. VK knows what he’s doing!!!
the OP wasn't having a meltdown.
Just a fan making a decent point on a messageboard, that what its here for isn't it.
I assume you must post 100% positive comments come what may, otherwise the "meltdown" remark could be attributed to anything you don't like.
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Re: Would you take relegation IF

Post by Elizabeth » Thu Sep 14, 2023 11:04 pm

Wile E Coyote wrote:
Thu Sep 14, 2023 10:28 pm
the OP wasn't having a meltdown.
Just a fan making a decent point on a messageboard, that what its here for isn't it.
I assume you must post 100% positive comments come what may, otherwise the "meltdown" remark could be attributed to anything you don't like.
I do think reading a lot of the comments after the first 3 games that the use of the word meltdown is not unreasonable.

If I wanted to use stronger language I 'd say it's been embarrassing

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Re: Would you take relegation IF

Post by NewClaret » Thu Sep 14, 2023 11:12 pm

dougcollins wrote:
Thu Sep 14, 2023 7:20 pm
Yep. But the problem is, we don't want a relegation.
Some people will never enjoy Prem status for fear of relegation. Which is a shame.

I personally enjoy it. I think we’ll be okay even if some of the early expectations were too high. But I don’t fear relegation and we’re now in a miles better position in terms of young, saleable assets, than we were last time around.

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Re: Would you take relegation IF

Post by NewClaret » Thu Sep 14, 2023 11:16 pm

In response to the OP, I think it’s way to early to be even contemplating relegation. But I don’t fear it, think Vincent would stick with us and given Dyche did the same, would likely bring us up better prepared.

If we did go down (and managed to hold on to the majority of our squad) I’d see us setting a points record in the Championship.

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Re: Would you take relegation IF

Post by Wile E Coyote » Thu Sep 14, 2023 11:31 pm

Elizabeth wrote:
Thu Sep 14, 2023 11:04 pm
I do think reading a lot of the comments after the first 3 games that the use of the word meltdown is not unreasonable.

If I wanted to use stronger language I 'd say it's been embarrassing
you need to seperate the word "embarrassing" from any source that claims its Strong language first Elizabeth.

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Re: Would you take relegation IF

Post by Elizabeth » Thu Sep 14, 2023 11:58 pm

Wile E Coyote wrote:
Thu Sep 14, 2023 11:31 pm
you need to seperate the word "embarrassing" from any source that claims its Strong language first Elizabeth.
I don't think I need English language lessons from you Wile when you can't spell

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Re: Would you take relegation IF

Post by Wile E Coyote » Fri Sep 15, 2023 12:09 am

Elizabeth wrote:
Thu Sep 14, 2023 11:58 pm
I don't think I need English language lessons from you Wile when you can't spell
vaccuous as usual, I wasn't expecting much to be honest. Tiresome, or even triesome if that's all youve got Zzzzzz

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Re: Would you take relegation IF

Post by Quicknick » Fri Sep 15, 2023 3:05 am

I don't want us to go down under any circumstances. No guarantee we would get promoted again.

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