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£100m Player

Post by LDNBFC87 » Thu Sep 28, 2023 11:17 am

Keep seeing the quote by Vinnie saying that he believes we have our first £100m player in our ranks.

Who do we think it is?

I believe he said it before we'd signed Koleosho (or at least before we'd had a good look at him), other wise he'd be my bet (alongside Zaroury, Benny etc)

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Re: £100m Player

Post by Rick_Muller » Thu Sep 28, 2023 11:20 am

Foster for me, the sky is the limit for him and historically players who put the ball in the onion bag tend to transfer for higher fees.

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Re: £100m Player

Post by Burnley1989 » Thu Sep 28, 2023 11:22 am

Could be any of 4-5 of them, I think we are probably a few years from that though

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Re: £100m Player

Post by 4midable » Thu Sep 28, 2023 11:24 am

Rick_Muller wrote:
Thu Sep 28, 2023 11:20 am
Foster for me, the sky is the limit for him and historically players who put the ball in the onion bag tend to transfer for higher fees.
Not a chance

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Re: £100m Player

Post by Newcastleclaret93 » Thu Sep 28, 2023 11:26 am

Rick_Muller wrote:
Thu Sep 28, 2023 11:20 am
Foster for me, the sky is the limit for him and historically players who put the ball in the onion bag tend to transfer for higher fees.
Let’s say foster bags 15 this season. He’s certainly in the realms of possibility

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Re: £100m Player

Post by burnley007 » Thu Sep 28, 2023 11:31 am

It won't just be 1 player, we will need a number of players to excel for 1 to reach a £100m. Look at Brighton, it takes time for the standard value of your players to increase.
You need to sell a £50m player before you can even think of £100m.
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Re: £100m Player

Post by dsr » Thu Sep 28, 2023 11:32 am

£100m players at present are the ones who have already won the European Cup/Champions League and are going to a club with even more money. Not promising youngsters (however good) from the lower reaches.

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Re: £100m Player

Post by Colburn_Claret » Thu Sep 28, 2023 11:35 am

He said post Man U, that we haven't seen our best players yet, presumably still settling in to the system.
Whoever it is we have some serious talent, and a lot of 'profit' throughout the squad.
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Re: £100m Player

Post by Newcastleclaret93 » Thu Sep 28, 2023 11:36 am

dsr wrote:
Thu Sep 28, 2023 11:32 am
£100m players at present are the ones who have already won the European Cup/Champions League and are going to a club with even more money. Not promising youngsters (however good) from the lower reaches.
Caicedo?

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Re: £100m Player

Post by LDNBFC87 » Thu Sep 28, 2023 11:36 am

dsr wrote:
Thu Sep 28, 2023 11:32 am
£100m players at present are the ones who have already won the European Cup/Champions League and are going to a club with even more money. Not promising youngsters (however good) from the lower reaches.
So is VK wrong/speaking hyperbole/trying to fluff the value of our players in your opinion? Genuine question.

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Re: £100m Player

Post by TheFamilyCat » Thu Sep 28, 2023 11:40 am

Rick_Muller wrote:
Thu Sep 28, 2023 11:20 am
Foster for me, the sky is the limit for him and historically players who put the ball in the onion bag tend to transfer for higher fees.
Pony

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Re: £100m Player

Post by Socrates » Thu Sep 28, 2023 11:42 am

dsr wrote:
Thu Sep 28, 2023 11:32 am
£100m players at present are the ones who have already won the European Cup/Champions League and are going to a club with even more money. Not promising youngsters (however good) from the lower reaches.
I don’t think Grealish had played in European Competition when City paid £100 million for him.

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Re: £100m Player

Post by Socrates » Thu Sep 28, 2023 11:43 am

Enzo Fernandez had played less than ten Champions League games when Chelsea signed him.

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Re: £100m Player

Post by nil_desperandum » Thu Sep 28, 2023 11:59 am

Has Kompany actually said that we will get £100 million for a player? I don't think so.

Surely he is referring to future value, so it could be we sell player A to club B for £25 / 30 million, player A then moves from club B to C for say £50 million and then from club C to club D for £100 million.
That would be my interpretation of what he is saying.
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Re: £100m Player

Post by Tall Paul » Thu Sep 28, 2023 12:05 pm

dsr wrote:
Thu Sep 28, 2023 11:32 am
£100m players at present are the ones who have already won the European Cup/Champions League and are going to a club with even more money. Not promising youngsters (however good) from the lower reaches.
None of the players that went for over £100m this summer have won the Champions League.

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Re: £100m Player

Post by daveisaclaret » Thu Sep 28, 2023 12:05 pm

£100m signings currently are either the very best in the world moving between superclubs or very good players moving from clubs who don't want to sell to very rich clubs. We aren't in either position and aren't likely to be any time soon.

I doubt Kompany has given as much thought to the idea of us selling a player for £100m as most people in this thread.

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Re: £100m Player

Post by Anthonini » Thu Sep 28, 2023 12:12 pm

I think there's a few who have the potential to become a top player. To start from the back, Trafford, Al Dakhil, Beyer... perhaps Berge. I really like Ramsey and he looks like a very complete player so far. If he can improve the same way Zaroury and Benson did we're in for a treat. Odobert Kolosheo Tresor Amdouni even Foster could keep getting better under VK.

If Benson Zaroury and Larsen can adapt to the PL... You never know, but to be 100m worth you got to be world class but hey if Benson curls those in vs Liverpool and City he will become quite famous. Also Cullen is still young and has unique abilities in nowadays football. If he can grow along with the team, he's already went up alot in value over the last year.

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Re: £100m Player

Post by BurnleyFC » Thu Sep 28, 2023 12:18 pm

I think it’s hyperbole on VK’s part but you would hope the majority of them will increase in value and we can sell for a healthy profit.
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Re: £100m Player

Post by Nonayforever » Thu Sep 28, 2023 12:58 pm

Wilson Odebert

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Re: £100m Player

Post by JohnMcGreal » Thu Sep 28, 2023 1:02 pm

LDNBFC87 wrote:
Thu Sep 28, 2023 11:17 am
Keep seeing the quote by Vinnie saying that he believes we have our first £100m player in our ranks.

Who do we think it is?
Muric.

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Re: £100m Player

Post by bf2k » Thu Sep 28, 2023 1:06 pm

I very much doubt Burnley will receive £100m for a player. However, a player who we currently have may well at some point in their career go for £100m.

God knows who though. Beyer?

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Re: £100m Player

Post by bf2k » Thu Sep 28, 2023 1:08 pm

Socrates wrote:
Thu Sep 28, 2023 11:43 am
Enzo Fernandez had played less than ten Champions League games when Chelsea signed him.
Chelsea aren't really a barometer for player valuations are they really?

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Re: £100m Player

Post by daveisaclaret » Thu Sep 28, 2023 1:10 pm

bf2k wrote:
Thu Sep 28, 2023 1:08 pm
Chelsea aren't really a barometer for player valuations are they really?
There have been 9 £100m players and Chelsea have signed two of them so very much yes they are.
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Re: £100m Player

Post by Roosterbooster » Thu Sep 28, 2023 1:28 pm

I wouldn't put it past us having a £100m player. But not in the current market. The prices will go up though, and in 2-3 years its possible. We have some young gems with real potential

Foster, Amdouni, Koleosho, Odobert, Zaroury, AAD...

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Re: £100m Player

Post by AshevilleNCClaret » Thu Sep 28, 2023 1:32 pm

this might seem off base, but I'm thinking Trafford. Not on current form, but I think he might be getting the nod ahead of Muric because with a halfway decent showing, he could command a decent fee.
Foster is looking like the real deal, and I wouldn't be surprised if he goes next year.

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Re: £100m Player

Post by dsr » Thu Sep 28, 2023 1:32 pm

LDNBFC87 wrote:
Thu Sep 28, 2023 11:36 am
So is VK wrong/speaking hyperbole/trying to fluff the value of our players in your opinion? Genuine question.
I don't actually have an opinion on whether it's right or wrong to say it. But I do think that if the £100m player is there, he's far more likely to move on somewhere bigger for a lesser sum and then be sold for £100m+ when he has proved himself at Champions League level. Obviously if one of ours plays exceptionally well internationally, it becomes just possible.
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Re: £100m Player

Post by beddie » Thu Sep 28, 2023 2:08 pm

Just to add from the limited time I’ve seen him I do hope we can sign JBL permanently, he looks a player to me.

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Re: £100m Player

Post by LDNBFC87 » Thu Sep 28, 2023 2:14 pm

beddie wrote:
Thu Sep 28, 2023 2:08 pm
Just to add from the limited time I’ve seen him I do hope we can sign JBL permanently, he looks a player to me.
He does look quality. Did we sign him on loan with an option to buy or mandatory buy? I can't remember.

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Re: £100m Player

Post by LDNBFC87 » Thu Sep 28, 2023 2:27 pm

LDNBFC87 wrote:
Thu Sep 28, 2023 2:14 pm
He does look quality. Did we sign him on loan with an option to buy or mandatory buy? I can't remember.
Just checked and Sacha Tavolieri says it's mandatory which is good news (should he continue to impress!)

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Re: £100m Player

Post by bf2k » Thu Sep 28, 2023 2:55 pm

daveisaclaret wrote:
Thu Sep 28, 2023 1:10 pm
There have been 9 £100m players and Chelsea have signed two of them so very much yes they are.
:?: and are they really worth £100m? Have they proven anything to warrant that valuation?

Chelsea used their financial clout to get players other were looking at, Caicedo is a perfect example. Liverpool would never have gone to £100m for him which meant his only destination was going to be Chelsea.

Lukaku - never £100m player
Enzo Fernandez - Looks a good player but never £100m player...yet
Mudryk - not quiet £100m

Kane, Mbappe, Bellingham, even Rice at a stretch are worth that money in today's markets.

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Re: £100m Player

Post by daveisaclaret » Thu Sep 28, 2023 3:00 pm

bf2k wrote:
Thu Sep 28, 2023 2:55 pm
:?: and are they really worth £100m? Have they proven anything to warrant that valuation?

Chelsea used their financial clout to get players other were looking at, Caicedo is a perfect example. Liverpool would never have gone to £100m for him which meant his only destination was going to be Chelsea.

Lukaku - never £100m player
Enzo Fernandez - Looks a good player but never £100m player...yet
Mudryk - not quiet £100m

Kane, Mbappe, Bellingham, even Rice at a stretch are worth that money in today's markets.
Won't bother me or VK if our £100m player is worth it, should the time come. We are more likely to sell a player for £100m because a rich club decides to pay too much than any other reason.

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Re: £100m Player

Post by bfcmik » Thu Sep 28, 2023 3:06 pm

Amdouni was described as a potential Messi type player last season. If he can start banging them in he could easily raise his value by a factor of 5 or 6 times

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Re: £100m Player

Post by Raconteur » Thu Sep 28, 2023 3:10 pm

dsr wrote:
Thu Sep 28, 2023 11:32 am
£100m players at present are the ones who have already won the European Cup/Champions League and are going to a club with even more money. Not promising youngsters (however good) from the lower reaches.
Are you sure?
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Re: £100m Player

Post by Tall Paul » Thu Sep 28, 2023 3:15 pm

bf2k wrote:
Thu Sep 28, 2023 2:55 pm
:?: and are they really worth £100m? Have they proven anything to warrant that valuation?

Chelsea used their financial clout to get players other were looking at, Caicedo is a perfect example. Liverpool would never have gone to £100m for him which meant his only destination was going to be Chelsea.
Liverpool agreed a fee of £111m for Caicedo.

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Re: £100m Player

Post by Big Vinny K » Thu Sep 28, 2023 3:23 pm

bfcmik wrote:
Thu Sep 28, 2023 3:06 pm
If he can start banging them in he could easily raise his value by a factor of 5 or 6 times
You could pretty much say that about most players.
Realistically though not many players score more than 15 goals a season in the PL. Even less players 20 plus. That’s the kind of thing he would have to do for his value to increase by 5 or 6 times.

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Re: £100m Player

Post by dsr » Thu Sep 28, 2023 3:41 pm

Raconteur wrote:
Thu Sep 28, 2023 3:10 pm
Are you sure?
OK. if you want to be literal about it, £100m players are usually those who have challenged at the top level of European competition (unless Chelsea are bidding), or who have an English premium AND have multiple England caps.
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Re: £100m Player

Post by Cirrus_Minor » Thu Sep 28, 2023 7:05 pm

Reminded me a bit of Adamsons "team of the seventies"

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Re: £100m Player

Post by Winstonswhite » Thu Sep 28, 2023 8:26 pm

It’ll never happen. For a club of our size Pace would accept any offer over £50 million for any player. He won’t be playing hard ball at those figures.

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Re: £100m Player

Post by kentonclaret » Thu Sep 28, 2023 8:38 pm

bf2k wrote:
Thu Sep 28, 2023 1:08 pm
Chelsea aren't really a barometer for player valuations are they really?
Looking at a Premier League Table for matches played in 2023 and Chelsea are bottom of the table for goals scored. Even Leicester have scored more PL goals in 2023 than Chelsea!
Chelsea certainly don’t possess a £100m striker.

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Re: £100m Player

Post by claret2018 » Thu Sep 28, 2023 8:45 pm

I had no idea Neymar had gone to Saudi.

Probably the most overrated player of his generation

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Re: £100m Player

Post by NewClaret » Thu Sep 28, 2023 8:49 pm

Winstonswhite wrote:
Thu Sep 28, 2023 8:26 pm
It’ll never happen. For a club of our size Pace would accept any offer over £50 million for any player. He won’t be playing hard ball at those figures.
That really depends on whether we have multiple interested parties. Alan Pace used to head up securities sales at Citi. I’m pretty sure he knows how to negotiate, bide his time and strike the best deal if we’re ever fortunate enough to have an asset worth £50m+.

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Re: £100m Player

Post by BleedingClaret » Thu Sep 28, 2023 8:51 pm

It’s the Swiss Messi

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Re: £100m Player

Post by Rowls » Thu Sep 28, 2023 8:54 pm

We've got the next £100 million player but we don't know who it is - YET!!

Spin the wheel to find out who it's going to be!

https://wheelofnames.com/c48-fks
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Re: £100m Player

Post by IanMcL » Thu Sep 28, 2023 11:54 pm

Gives them all an idea of what he hopes and expects of them all. A motivating tool.

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Re: £100m Player

Post by Iloveyoubrady » Fri Sep 29, 2023 12:23 am

I think the most likely are Foster, Amdouni and Odobert. Seen little of all of them to say it but I get the feeling that they are the ones with the highest ceilings. Koleosho also already worth way way more than we paid… Benson, Zaroury, Trafford, Beyer, AAD, Ramsey, Messengo and more have huge potential. Also I don’t think he’s played well yet but Tresor looks like he could be massive.

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Re: £100m Player

Post by Inchy » Fri Sep 29, 2023 5:23 am

I’d be amazed if we sold a player for 100 million



But not as amazed that we sold Wayne Thomas for 1 million
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Re: £100m Player

Post by IanMcL » Fri Sep 29, 2023 8:53 am

Inchy wrote:
Fri Sep 29, 2023 5:23 am
I’d be amazed if we sold a player for 100 million



But not as amazed that we sold Wayne Thomas for 1 million
Wasn't it 1.5m or something ridiculously huge for a tank?

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