Today's Football

Commy · Post by **Commy** » Sat Sep 30, 2023 1:03 pm

Villa 3-0 up against Brighton and DL losing to Southampton 2-0.

tarkys_ears · Post by **tarkys_ears** » Sat Sep 30, 2023 1:04 pm

...rugby tackle in the lead up to the 3rd.

How was that not a foul?!

DCWat · Post by **DCWat** » Sat Sep 30, 2023 1:05 pm

Great day for Estupinan in the Fantasy Football!

Commy · Post by **Commy** » Sat Sep 30, 2023 1:06 pm

3-0 to Southampton.

Commy · Post by **Commy** » Sat Sep 30, 2023 1:07 pm

I have Estupinan in my team. I also took Watkins out because he wasn't scoring and then he starts to go mad.

Tricky Trevor · Post by **Tricky Trevor** » Sat Sep 30, 2023 1:07 pm

Saints looking a lot better than recently. Comms saying they had an easy start to the season and had come up against better teams since. True but he never mentioned that between their good start and the poor run they sold Nathan Tella & Ward-Prowse.
3-0, armstrong again.
He also didn’t mention the change with Adams and Edozie benched to stiffen up the MF.

DCWat · Post by **DCWat** » Sat Sep 30, 2023 1:08 pm

Commy wrote: ↑
Sat Sep 30, 2023 1:07 pm
I have Estupinan in my team. I also took Watkins out because he wasn't scoring and then he starts to go mad.

It’s ridiculous how often something like that happens.

tarkys_ears · Post by **tarkys_ears** » Sat Sep 30, 2023 1:11 pm

Tricky Trevor wrote: ↑
Sat Sep 30, 2023 1:07 pm
He also didn’t mention the change with Adams and Edozie benched to stiffen up the MF.

Easy on the language!

Commy · Post by **Commy** » Sat Sep 30, 2023 1:15 pm

Brighton don't like being pressed.

LeadBelly · Post by **LeadBelly** » Sat Sep 30, 2023 1:33 pm

Commy wrote: ↑
Sat Sep 30, 2023 1:15 pm
Brighton don't like being pressed.

Villa are pressing high up really well and BHA are coping poorly with that - as you say. On their left, Dunk isnt great with the ball (especially on his left foot) and Estupiñán is having a 'mare. Watkins is looking very aggressive and sharp, terrifying the BHA back line over on the other (right) side and the middle.

Newcastleclaret93 · Post by **Newcastleclaret93** » Sat Sep 30, 2023 1:34 pm

No Wilson or botman today Apparantly

Pickles · Post by **Pickles** » Sat Sep 30, 2023 1:37 pm

Obviously they're a good side and obviously this sounds like hindsight but I've never really got Brighton. Seen highlights of their games and I'm always thinking why the opposition never seems to press them. Dunk and whoever always seem to have eons on the ball. Looks like Villa have pressed and hey presto.

DCWat · Post by **DCWat** » Sat Sep 30, 2023 1:38 pm

Newcastleclaret93 wrote: ↑
Sat Sep 30, 2023 1:34 pm
No Wilson or botman today Apparantly

Didn’t Isak have an injury midweek, too?

Commy · Post by **Commy** » Sat Sep 30, 2023 1:45 pm

DCWat wrote: ↑
Sat Sep 30, 2023 1:38 pm
Didn’t Isak have an injury midweek, too?

Late fitness tests for him and Wilson.

Commy · Post by **Commy** » Sat Sep 30, 2023 1:50 pm

Another Brighton goal would make it interesting.

tarkys_ears · Post by **tarkys_ears** » Sat Sep 30, 2023 2:18 pm

The other Ramsay has just scored for the Vile

Commy · Post by **Commy** » Sat Sep 30, 2023 2:19 pm

It makes our defeat to Villa look a bit better.

burnleymik · Post by **burnleymik** » Sat Sep 30, 2023 2:20 pm

Brighton were awful first half and it was pretty much all over by half time.

Andreshotboots · Post by **Andreshotboots** » Sat Sep 30, 2023 2:25 pm

Commy wrote: ↑
Sat Sep 30, 2023 2:19 pm
It makes our defeat to Villa look a bit better.

Shows what a tough fixture start we've had with both Manchester clubs, a rejuvenated Spurs and an excellent Villa at home..

Spijed · Post by **Spijed** » Sat Sep 30, 2023 2:51 pm

Difficult to work out the standard of the Prem at times. Watkins looked very good for Villa yet play him for England and he looks completely out of his depth.

jrgbfc · Post by **jrgbfc** » Sat Sep 30, 2023 3:29 pm

Would be typical Everton to lose at home to Luton, just when they look like they've turned a bit of a corner.

Spijed · Post by **Spijed** » Sat Sep 30, 2023 3:53 pm

Not helping with Luton & Wolves winning.

4midable · Post by **4midable** » Sat Sep 30, 2023 4:24 pm

Luton take the points

4midable · Post by **4midable** » Sat Sep 30, 2023 4:25 pm

Disallowed

Aclaret · Post by **Aclaret** » Sat Sep 30, 2023 4:27 pm

Is our game v Luton one of them so called 6 pointers ?

wilks_bfc · Post by **wilks_bfc** » Sat Sep 30, 2023 4:49 pm

Plenty of goals in div 2
43 goals so far

PremierLeagueClass · Post by **PremierLeagueClass** » Sat Sep 30, 2023 5:00 pm

Results couldn’t have gone much worse today.

Can only get better from here surely.

ElectroClaret · Post by **ElectroClaret** » Sat Sep 30, 2023 5:06 pm

Everton lose.
PNE battered 4-0 at home by WBA.
Accy Stanley 1 Stockport 3

kentonclaret · Post by **kentonclaret** » Sat Sep 30, 2023 5:57 pm

The two PL managers who have been very vocal over the past couple of days re “fixtures congestion and too many games being played leading to long injury lists” both saw their teams go down to “surprise defeats”. Pep Guardiola and Ten Haag hardly spreading positivity. Perhaps the Manchester City players have already gone on strike?

4midable · Post by **4midable** » Sat Sep 30, 2023 5:58 pm

Red for Curtis Vinnie Jones

Vegas Claret · Post by **Vegas Claret** » Sat Sep 30, 2023 5:59 pm

They really really need to stop showing stills, nonsense way of making decisions

DCWat · Post by **DCWat** » Sat Sep 30, 2023 5:59 pm

Another **** VAR decision for me in the Spurs Liverpool game.

That’s a review made (and shown) by someone that doesn’t understand football.

StayingDown4Ever · Post by **StayingDown4Ever** » Sat Sep 30, 2023 6:02 pm

PremierLeagueClass wrote: ↑
Sat Sep 30, 2023 5:00 pm
Results couldn’t have gone much worse today.

Can only get better from here surely.

Remember when some absolute cretins on here before the season started we’re suggesting we would challenge for European football?

Today’s results would have been good for them guys with the clubs at the bottom winning.

Newcastleclaret93 · Post by **Newcastleclaret93** » Sat Sep 30, 2023 6:04 pm

DCWat wrote: ↑
Sat Sep 30, 2023 5:59 pm
Another **** VAR decision for me in the Spurs Liverpool game.

That’s a review made (and shown) by someone that doesn’t understand football.

If I’m honest I’m not sure what else the ref could have given.

It wasn’t the intent of the player but unfortunately the follow through hits all the criteria for a red card.

chekhov · Post by **chekhov** » Sat Sep 30, 2023 6:06 pm

DCWat wrote: ↑
Sat Sep 30, 2023 5:59 pm
Another **** VAR decision for me in the Spurs Liverpool game.

That’s a review made (and shown) by someone that doesn’t understand football.

I agree it was a ridicliarse decision.

ClaretMat · Post by **ClaretMat** » Sat Sep 30, 2023 6:06 pm

Isn't Diaz onside there?!?!

Rileybobs · Post by **Rileybobs** » Sat Sep 30, 2023 6:06 pm

I think the red was borderline, certainly not a howler of a decision and Neville’s point about Jones’ intent to injure his opponent is moot. But again, the referee being presented with a still image of the incident when approaching the monitor stinks. They’re basically making the decision for him.

DCWat · Post by **DCWat** » Sat Sep 30, 2023 6:18 pm

Newcastleclaret93 wrote: ↑
Sat Sep 30, 2023 6:04 pm
If I’m honest I’m not sure what else the ref could have given.

It wasn’t the intent of the player but unfortunately the follow through hits all the criteria for a red card.

The ref rightly gave a yellow card. The review he was shown appeared to only show the foot going into the players leg.

Watching the full clip, you could see that Jones’ foot caught the top of the ball and his momentum carried it into the players leg.

This sort of thing can and does happen in a game of football. There was no intent.

For me, that’s exactly the sort of decision that VAR is getting wrong and it’s why people think it’s being managed by people without any understanding of, or experience of, actually playing football.

Its going too far.

chekhov · Post by **chekhov** » Sat Sep 30, 2023 6:18 pm

ClaretMat wrote: ↑
Sat Sep 30, 2023 6:06 pm
Isn't Diaz onside there?!?!

That’s what I thought.

Carwin261 · Post by **Carwin261** » Sat Sep 30, 2023 6:23 pm

Neville arguing that Jones shouldn’t get a straight red ,I thought he didn’t like Liverpool ,I thought it was definitely a red card.

Newcastleclaret93 · Post by **Newcastleclaret93** » Sat Sep 30, 2023 6:26 pm

DCWat wrote: ↑
Sat Sep 30, 2023 6:18 pm
The ref rightly gave a yellow card. The review he was shown appeared to only show the foot going into the players leg.

Watching the full clip, you could see that Jones’ foot caught the top of the ball and his momentum carried it into the players leg.

This sort of thing can and does happen in a game of football. There was no intent.

For me, that’s exactly the sort of decision that VAR is getting wrong and it’s why people think it’s being managed by people without any understanding of, or experience of, actually playing football.

Its going too far.

But all them points are redundant, from my point of view it clearly falls under the “serious foul play” category in the rules.

He used unnecessary force that could have resulted in harm to another player.

I think they got it right on this rare occasion

DCWat · Post by **DCWat** » Sat Sep 30, 2023 6:26 pm

Carwin261 wrote: ↑
Sat Sep 30, 2023 6:23 pm
Neville arguing that Jones shouldn’t get a straight red ,I thought he didn’t like Liverpool ,I thought it was definitely a red card.

If agree if he’d gone over the ball.

Looked pretty obvious to me that his only intention was to win the ball. In stretching he caught the top of the ball and momentum took him into the Spurs player.

Frozen at the point of impact, a red all day long. Viewed in full and with understanding of the situation, a yellow for me.

ClaretMat · Post by **ClaretMat** » Sat Sep 30, 2023 6:28 pm

I'm still sratching my head at the Diaz goal.
Are they unable to overturn if it's given on field by the linesman?

Newcastleclaret93 · Post by **Newcastleclaret93** » Sat Sep 30, 2023 6:30 pm

ClaretMat wrote: ↑
Sat Sep 30, 2023 6:28 pm
I'm still sratching my head at the Diaz goal.
Are they unable to overturn if it's given on field by the linesman?

There was a line drawn, for some reason on sky they didn’t show it apaprantly

Rileybobs · Post by **Rileybobs** » Sat Sep 30, 2023 6:30 pm

DCWat wrote: ↑
Sat Sep 30, 2023 6:26 pm
If agree if he’d gone over the ball.

Looked pretty obvious to me that his only intention was to win the ball. In stretching he caught the top of the ball and momentum took him into the Spurs player.

Frozen at the point of impact, a red all day long. Viewed in full and with understanding of the situation, a yellow for me.

Intent has absolutely nothing to do with it though, that’s why I couldn’t understand Neville’s argument.

4midable · Post by **4midable** » Sat Sep 30, 2023 6:38 pm

No Goal

DAVETHEVICAR · Post by **DAVETHEVICAR** » Sat Sep 30, 2023 6:44 pm

Dreadful var
Liverpool robbed

chekhov · Post by **chekhov** » Sat Sep 30, 2023 6:45 pm

Two fantastic saves by Alison it has to be said.

4midable · Post by **4midable** » Sat Sep 30, 2023 7:03 pm

Jota red

Taffy on the wing · Post by **Taffy on the wing** » Sat Sep 30, 2023 7:16 pm

I bet Spurs regret taking Son off now.