Clarets Vs Newcastle

simonclaret · Post by **simonclaret** » Sat Sep 30, 2023 3:41 pm

Beyer booked for shirt pull on Isak, fails to give advantage

RVclaret · Post by **RVclaret** » Sat Sep 30, 2023 3:41 pm

Taylor and Brownhill really limit our build up play on that side against teams that press

Goalposts · Post by **Goalposts** » Sat Sep 30, 2023 3:42 pm

We’re going to do well to still have 11 men at the end of the game

Pickles · Post by **Pickles** » Sat Sep 30, 2023 3:42 pm

We've always looked small at this level, it's the first thing I notice when we go back up.

Taffy on the wing · Post by **Taffy on the wing** » Sat Sep 30, 2023 3:42 pm

Ref keeps giving fouls based on crowd reaction......they scream for everything!

Casper2 · Post by **Casper2** » Sat Sep 30, 2023 3:43 pm

Bayer rolled far too easily

Jellybean · Post by **Jellybean** » Sat Sep 30, 2023 3:43 pm

We are far too easily dispossessed, need more physicality

Newcastleclaret93 · Post by **Newcastleclaret93** » Sat Sep 30, 2023 3:43 pm

I would take Ramsey off and bring on Tresor.

Possibly bring on Jay just to give us a bit of height and hopefully get a foothold.

Getting bullied all over the pitch right now

warksclaret · Post by **warksclaret** » Sat Sep 30, 2023 3:43 pm

Lets not concede now-if we can get to HT and regroup, may be play Jay and Amdouni as the No 10

burnleymik · Post by **burnleymik** » Sat Sep 30, 2023 3:43 pm

This ref is gonna send one of ours off.

Ampth7 · Post by **Ampth7** » Sat Sep 30, 2023 3:43 pm

Being schooled at the moment……just need to hang in there and get to half time at 1-0!

CryerBFC · Post by **CryerBFC** » Sat Sep 30, 2023 3:43 pm

Newcastleclaret93 wrote: ↑
Sat Sep 30, 2023 3:40 pm
Tbf Cryer what else is he supposed to do, we can go short as newcastle are destroying us with the press. Can’t go long as we have shortest attack in the league.

It’s not a dig at Trafford. I know you like to come on here for a bit of controversy/an argument.

It’s about the tactics, if you need an option for the outball, either aim for Berge, or put Berge up in that space for a flick to Koleosho, you know, someone who might win something against the biggest bloke on the pitch.

123EasyasBFC · Post by **123EasyasBFC** » Sat Sep 30, 2023 3:43 pm

Since the goal it’s been extremely tough to watch

ksrclaret · Post by **ksrclaret** » Sat Sep 30, 2023 3:44 pm

Our summer recruitment was frustrating at the time but looking back on it now it’s just maddening.

We have some skilful players and plenty of pace but we’ve just not able to give ourselves a platform to play. All far too lightweight.

jedi_master · Post by **jedi_master** » Sat Sep 30, 2023 3:44 pm

Zaroury for Ramsey at half time for me.

BigGaz · Post by **BigGaz** » Sat Sep 30, 2023 3:44 pm

tarkys_ears wrote: ↑
Sat Sep 30, 2023 3:40 pm
God this team is skilled but weak...

too many midgets

At this level, I’m reminded of Brighton in their PL infancy and Norwich under Farke. Opposition teams absolutely love playing teams like this.

jedi_master · Post by **jedi_master** » Sat Sep 30, 2023 3:45 pm

BigGaz wrote: ↑
Sat Sep 30, 2023 3:44 pm
At this level, I’m reminded of Brighton in their PL infancy and Norwich under Farke. Opposition teams absolutely love playing teams like this.

Yes, we used to.

Ampth7 · Post by **Ampth7** » Sat Sep 30, 2023 3:45 pm

Newcastleclaret93 wrote: ↑
Sat Sep 30, 2023 3:43 pm
I would take Ramsey off and bring on Tresor.

Possibly bring on Jay just to give us a bit of height and hopefully get a foothold.

Getting bullied all over the pitch right now

Yes I agree. Either Tresor or Anass for me, but Ramsey is looking way out of his depth at the moment.

Pickles · Post by **Pickles** » Sat Sep 30, 2023 3:45 pm

ksrclaret wrote: ↑
Sat Sep 30, 2023 3:44 pm
Our summer recruitment was frustrating at the time but looking back on it now it’s just maddening.

We have some skilful players and plenty of pace but we’ve just not able to give ourselves a platform to play. All far too lightweight.

It was so obvious how much we needed a bit of strength and height in the middle and it just never came in the summer. Made some fantastic signings and playing some decent stuff. But it's startling just how small we look compared to other sides.

Paul Waine · Post by **Paul Waine** » Sat Sep 30, 2023 3:45 pm

Corner - Burnley.

boyyanno · Post by **boyyanno** » Sat Sep 30, 2023 3:46 pm

I agree with a lot of these comments. Bucket loads of technical ability but very weak and inexperienced/naive, it's worrying.

I'd bring on Jay and Tresor at half time. Amdouni and Ramsey off.

jedi_master · Post by **jedi_master** » Sat Sep 30, 2023 3:46 pm

Corner Burnley

Goalposts · Post by **Goalposts** » Sat Sep 30, 2023 3:46 pm

Changes needed at half time, amdouni and Ramsey for me to make way

Pickles · Post by **Pickles** » Sat Sep 30, 2023 3:47 pm

Hey guess what, another appalling corner.

ksrclaret · Post by **ksrclaret** » Sat Sep 30, 2023 3:47 pm

Pickles wrote: ↑
Sat Sep 30, 2023 3:45 pm
It was so obvious how much we needed a bit of strength and height in the middle and it just never came in the summer. Made some fantastic signings and playing some decent stuff. But it's startling just how small we look compared to other sides.

And VK even said plenty of time how physical the league is and how it’s moved on even from when he last played in 2019.

warksclaret · Post by **warksclaret** » Sat Sep 30, 2023 3:48 pm

Pickles wrote: ↑
Sat Sep 30, 2023 3:47 pm
Hey guess what, another appalling corner.

Show our corner takers footage of Westwood taking them

jedi_master · Post by **jedi_master** » Sat Sep 30, 2023 3:48 pm

Short corners because we have nothing to compete physically. That’s fine, but we hit the first man every time…

Goalposts · Post by **Goalposts** » Sat Sep 30, 2023 3:49 pm

They are doing a five man press which means the space for the pass is mid distance to the half way area. Traffords radar appears to be off at the moment for that distance

jedi_master · Post by **jedi_master** » Sat Sep 30, 2023 3:49 pm

Good save from Trafford from a terrible pass

Ampth7 · Post by **Ampth7** » Sat Sep 30, 2023 3:49 pm

10 seconds of the half left and Trafford tries to play out from the back!?!?

tarkys_ears · Post by **tarkys_ears** » Sat Sep 30, 2023 3:50 pm

...madness!

upanatem · Post by **upanatem** » Sat Sep 30, 2023 3:50 pm

Pickles wrote: ↑
Sat Sep 30, 2023 3:47 pm
Hey guess what, another appalling corner.

Who took it?

RVclaret · Post by **RVclaret** » Sat Sep 30, 2023 3:50 pm

Bruno has absolutely eaten Cullen alive in that half

DCWat · Post by **DCWat** » Sat Sep 30, 2023 3:50 pm

ksrclaret wrote: ↑
Sat Sep 30, 2023 3:44 pm
Our summer recruitment was frustrating at the time but looking back on it now it’s just maddening.

We have some skilful players and plenty of pace but we’ve just not able to give ourselves a platform to play. All far too lightweight.

The key areas weren’t sorted.

My hope is that we can keep pace until January and then address the problem areas - central midfield and full backs, another striker and possibly another centre half.

That we appear quite so short in various areas, despite what we have spent and how many we have brought in, isn’t exactly a ringing endorsement of the business we did over the summer.

It’s been a very hard start which we have to take into consideration but by God our midfield looks weak and lacking on the ball.

SalisburyClaret · Post by **SalisburyClaret** » Sat Sep 30, 2023 3:50 pm

Trafford keeping it respectable

lucs86 · Post by **lucs86** » Sat Sep 30, 2023 3:50 pm

RVclaret wrote: ↑
Sat Sep 30, 2023 3:41 pm
Taylor and Brownhill really limit our build up play on that side against teams that press

Yet it was Ramsey attempting a take on that gave the ball away for the goal.
We're missing any kind of presence up front, no easy out ball.

Devils_Advocate · Post by **Devils_Advocate** » Sat Sep 30, 2023 3:51 pm

Zaroury on for either Ramsey, Berge or Brownhill. Id swap out Brownhill but the safer option is prob to sub Ramsey.

Berge alongside Cullen, Ramsey behind Amdouni and Zaroury and Koleosho wide

Spijed · Post by **Spijed** » Sat Sep 30, 2023 3:51 pm

ksrclaret wrote: ↑
Sat Sep 30, 2023 3:47 pm
And VK even said plenty of time how physical the league is and how it’s moved on even from when he last played in 2019.

Going even further back when we played Chelsea in 2014 they looked far bigger than our players.

THEWELLERNUT70 · Post by **THEWELLERNUT70** » Sat Sep 30, 2023 3:51 pm

We need to learn and learn quick that we can't slowly play it out deep from the back, we don't have the players at this level. It's costing us time and time again and we are really lucky it's only a 1 goal deficit

The plus side is though I think Trafford has been very good 1st half

4midable · Post by **4midable** » Sat Sep 30, 2023 3:52 pm

Same old crap fckin about with the ball
Sloppy passes
Taking too much time

HahaYeah · Post by **HahaYeah** » Sat Sep 30, 2023 3:52 pm

What an awful clanger by Ramsey.

We're lucky it's only 0-1.

claretandy · Post by **claretandy** » Sat Sep 30, 2023 3:52 pm

upanatem wrote: ↑
Sat Sep 30, 2023 3:50 pm
Who took it?

You know who...

SalisburyClaret · Post by **SalisburyClaret** » Sat Sep 30, 2023 3:52 pm

Get Kolly on the left and JBL on the right.

burnleymik · Post by **burnleymik** » Sat Sep 30, 2023 3:52 pm

They quickly adapted to Koleosho, double and trebling up on him. Was a very tough watch after that first ten. We couldn't escape their press and far too many sloppy mistakes in possession.

We are lucky it is only 1-0. Some good saves from Trafford, but his distribution has been a big contributor to our problems.

jedi_master · Post by **jedi_master** » Sat Sep 30, 2023 3:52 pm

Two para review.

We were the better team for 8-10 minutes, they scored out of nothing from terrible play by Ramsey and then utterly dominated us for the entirety of the half. Very lucky to be only one down and two great saves from Trafford.

I don’t even know how we look to change it - we have nothing of any physical note to change the outlook of the game which is pressing strength and physically robbing us of the ball. All of our subs are basically mirrors of what are already playing. Technically proficient but weak young players.

I’d definitely bring Zaroury on for Ramsey though, he has struggled.

ksrclaret · Post by **ksrclaret** » Sat Sep 30, 2023 3:53 pm

Spijed wrote: ↑
Sat Sep 30, 2023 3:51 pm
Going even further back when we played Chelsea in 2014 they looked far bigger than our players.

I don’t think we even spent £10m that summer though, nevermind £100m+.

Newcastleclaret93 · Post by **Newcastleclaret93** » Sat Sep 30, 2023 3:53 pm

CryerBFC wrote: ↑
Sat Sep 30, 2023 3:43 pm
It’s not a dig at Trafford. I know you like to come on here for a bit of controversy/an argument.

It’s about the tactics, if you need an option for the outball, either aim for Berge, or put Berge up in that space for a flick to Koleosho, you know, someone who might win something against the biggest bloke on the pitch.

No controversy I am just really struggling with our tactics today.

Really not sure what VK is expecting from Trafford with the ball at his feet today. They are pressing our defence into mistakes so he is having to go long, but up top we literally have the three smallest players on the pitch.

I personally think Jay has got to come on just to give us an out ball

Pickles · Post by **Pickles** » Sat Sep 30, 2023 3:53 pm

What a frustrating half of football. I really don't like grumbling my way through it but they were there for the taking in the first ten minutes or so. They were all at sea, we had three good openings and one excellent chance. Didn't take it and then pow.

Yes yes, they're a super team but we barely even give ourselves a chance to get anything from these sorts of fixtures because we don't take our chances. And when you're as flimsy at the back as we are, you have to be extra clinical.

Belial · Post by **Belial** » Sat Sep 30, 2023 3:53 pm

How many more times will we put ourselves in trouble in the 2 half? We've made it incredibly easy for them

Carwin261 · Post by **Carwin261** » Sat Sep 30, 2023 3:53 pm

Neil wrote: ↑
Sat Sep 30, 2023 3:16 pm
Ramsey at fault. This league is so punishing.

Thought Ramsey was fouled .