Clarets v Chelsea Match Thread

Andreshotboots · Post by **Andreshotboots** » Sat Oct 07, 2023 4:46 pm

Casper2 wrote: ↑
Sat Oct 07, 2023 4:39 pm
Boring

Don't be too harsh on yourself..

burnley007 · Post by **burnley007** » Sat Oct 07, 2023 4:47 pm

Berge making a late run for worst player on the pitch.
Tough call, but I'm sticking with Tresor

JohnDearyMe · Post by **JohnDearyMe** » Sat Oct 07, 2023 4:47 pm

Horrible flashbacks again to all those away games under Coyle where we were turned over in the top flight.

jojomk1 · Post by **jojomk1** » Sat Oct 07, 2023 4:47 pm

Superjohnnyfrancis wrote: ↑
Sat Oct 07, 2023 4:45 pm
Any champ manager veteran knows you need your spine sorting before the flair players

Any manager, of any team, knows you need a strong spine before anything else

Is there a doctor in the house

Paul Waine · Post by **Paul Waine** » Sat Oct 07, 2023 4:47 pm

Maatsen on

Chelsea sub, of course.

BurnleyFC · Post by **BurnleyFC** » Sat Oct 07, 2023 4:47 pm

I don’t think we need to worry about Aston Villa calling in their buy back clause for Ramsey.

JLR81 · Post by **JLR81** » Sat Oct 07, 2023 4:48 pm

commentator thinks we sold Maatsen to Chelsea :/

Casper2 · Post by **Casper2** » Sat Oct 07, 2023 4:49 pm

Andreshotboots wrote: ↑
Sat Oct 07, 2023 4:46 pm
Don't be too harsh on yourself..

Hilarious, like your football knowledge

jojomk1 · Post by **jojomk1** » Sat Oct 07, 2023 4:49 pm

Paul Waine wrote: ↑
Sat Oct 07, 2023 4:47 pm
Maatsen on

Chelsea sub, of course.

He's one of our own

Superjohnnyfrancis · Post by **Superjohnnyfrancis** » Sat Oct 07, 2023 4:49 pm

jojomk1 wrote: ↑
Sat Oct 07, 2023 4:47 pm
Any manager, of any team, knows you need a strong spine before anything else

Is there a doctor in the house

We have fallen down the stairs and the spine is ****** by the looks of it. 999 has been called.

FCBurnley · Post by **FCBurnley** » Sat Oct 07, 2023 4:50 pm

Fans streaming out. Hardly surprising. But don’t worry. VK will have seen lots of positives!!!!

willsclarets · Post by **willsclarets** » Sat Oct 07, 2023 4:50 pm

The premier league just makes my weekend a bit less good. We've built a squad of talent but there's not a lot of reliance, smarts or experience. This project is a longer term one, I just hope it gets seen out. In the meantime, gonna be a long season I think unfortunately. Just got to stay patient

burnleymik · Post by **burnleymik** » Sat Oct 07, 2023 4:50 pm

7 mins added time. Just what we want...

spt_claret · Post by **spt_claret** » Sat Oct 07, 2023 4:50 pm

Cazaris wrote: ↑
Sat Oct 07, 2023 4:38 pm
Not gonna lie, I've tried to defend Trafford, and honestly there's not much he could have really done differently in this game, but we're badly missing Muric's passing. Trafford just lumps it downfield to absolutely no-one, Muric would scythe through teams on a regular basis with his long balls. We need that more than ever now.

I'm in the Muric camp but Trafford did play a lovely neat chip to the wing first half. His positioning could've been better for the 4th but can't be blamed for the others. I think his problem understandably is confidence. When you're bleeding goals for fun against top half sides the keeper's going to be nervous whenever he has the ball and whenever the opposition attack.

JohnDearyMe · Post by **JohnDearyMe** » Sat Oct 07, 2023 4:50 pm

burnley007 wrote: ↑
Sat Oct 07, 2023 4:47 pm
Berge making a late run for worst player on the pitch.
Tough call, but I'm sticking with Tresor

What has Zaroury done to not even get a place on the bench?

Superjohnnyfrancis · Post by **Superjohnnyfrancis** » Sat Oct 07, 2023 4:51 pm

BurnleyFC wrote: ↑
Sat Oct 07, 2023 4:47 pm
I don’t think we need to worry about Aston Villa calling in their buy back clause for Ramsey.

Like going down to ten men when he comes on, pointless. Needs to go in u21’s.

Bigvince · Post by **Bigvince** » Sat Oct 07, 2023 4:51 pm

Berge and Ramsey in the middle of the park just doesn’t work, Berge far to casual, Ramsey lacking experience. Shows how important Cullen is.

Murger · Post by **Murger** » Sat Oct 07, 2023 4:51 pm

Defensively we are as weak as ****. In possession, we are just so wasteful. Nearly every goal we concede is through us ******* about.

Superjohnnyfrancis · Post by **Superjohnnyfrancis** » Sat Oct 07, 2023 4:51 pm

spt_claret wrote: ↑
Sat Oct 07, 2023 4:50 pm
I'm in the Muric camp but Trafford did play a lovely neat chip to the wing first half. His positioning could've been better for the 4th but can't be blamed for the others. I think his problem understandably is confidence. When you're bleeding goals for fun against top half sides the keeper's going to be nervous whenever he has the ball and whenever the opposition attack.

Defence have been woeful today Trafford not too bad funnily.

tarkys_ears · Post by **tarkys_ears** » Sat Oct 07, 2023 4:52 pm

Probably not going to be hard to get single tickets in a few weeks time

spt_claret · Post by **spt_claret** » Sat Oct 07, 2023 4:53 pm

JohnDearyMe wrote: ↑
Sat Oct 07, 2023 4:50 pm
What has Zaroury done to not even get a place on the bench?

Cost less

JimmyRobbo · Post by **JimmyRobbo** » Sat Oct 07, 2023 4:53 pm

BurnleyFC wrote: ↑
Sat Oct 07, 2023 4:47 pm
I don’t think we need to worry about Aston Villa calling in their buy back clause for Ramsey.

Haha.

Certainly not from what I've seen so far. I'm sure he's got lots of potential. We need him nursed through instead of in the middle of a joblot of youngsters.

if they grow together, I can take the ups and downs of developing exciting youngsters. It beats watching the final season under SD.

Andreshotboots · Post by **Andreshotboots** » Sat Oct 07, 2023 4:53 pm

Casper2 wrote: ↑
Sat Oct 07, 2023 4:49 pm
Hilarious, like your football knowledge

So my football knowledge is poor when I'm pointing out how hard our home fixtures have been?

Which ones would you say we're highly "winnable" then for a newly promoted team?

Vino blanco · Post by **Vino blanco** » Sat Oct 07, 2023 4:53 pm

I know it was the Championship but our last season's team had much more balance, every player knew his role, our passing game was a joy to watch. This team seems so disorganised, lacking basic footballing common sense, just so lacking in physicality. It's also clear that the management team does not know it's best eleven: we can still stay up but we need to change things quickly.

Superjohnnyfrancis · Post by **Superjohnnyfrancis** » Sat Oct 07, 2023 4:54 pm

Not the end of the world just need to win the bottom half league by one position

FCBurnley · Post by **FCBurnley** » Sat Oct 07, 2023 4:54 pm

3 of Us Sheff u Bournemouth and Luton fir the drop Today we have been pathetic since we scored against a pretty poor Chelsea

Superjohnnyfrancis · Post by **Superjohnnyfrancis** » Sat Oct 07, 2023 4:55 pm

Should have got kolo on first half when cuc was on the ropes, missed the chance.

expoultryboy · Post by **expoultryboy** » Sat Oct 07, 2023 4:55 pm

Plus Vino we played a settled team with not many changes every week

Clive 1960 · Post by **Clive 1960** » Sat Oct 07, 2023 4:55 pm

Vino blanco wrote: ↑
Sat Oct 07, 2023 4:53 pm
I know it was the Championship but our last season's team had much more balance, every player knew his role, our passing game was a joy to watch. This team seems so disorganised, lacking basic footballing common sense, just so lacking in physicality. It's also clear that the management team does not know it's best eleven: we can still stay up but we need to change things quickly.

we had a settled team that is the problem.

Commy · Post by **Commy** » Sat Oct 07, 2023 4:56 pm

We have taken 4 points (should have been 6) from two away games against teams expected to be in the mix with us. If we can keep that up against the others we will be fine.

tarkys_ears · Post by **tarkys_ears** » Sat Oct 07, 2023 4:58 pm

3 corners and not even a shot on goal from one of them...

Anyway. Onto the next one.

RVclaret · Post by **RVclaret** » Sat Oct 07, 2023 4:59 pm

Commy wrote: ↑
Sat Oct 07, 2023 4:56 pm
We have taken 4 points (should have been 6) from two away games against teams expected to be in the mix with us. If we can keep that up against the others we will be fine.

Basically this. It’s such a bizarre start with the fixtures. It’s hard to work out where we are at. What’s clear is we can’t compete over 90 minutes yet vs top 10 sides.

JimmyRobbo · Post by **JimmyRobbo** » Sat Oct 07, 2023 4:59 pm

Taylor brings the curtain down in appropriate fashion. Blowing a speculative chance, wildly.

Nori1958 · Post by **Nori1958** » Sat Oct 07, 2023 5:00 pm

JimmyRobbo wrote: ↑
Sat Oct 07, 2023 4:53 pm
Haha.

Certainly not from what I've seen so far. I'm sure he's got lots of potential. We need him nursed through instead of in the middle of a joblot of youngsters.

if they grow together, I can take the ups and downs of developing exciting youngsters. It beats watching the final season under SD.

Which game was it he won man of the match?

tarkys_ears · Post by **tarkys_ears** » Sat Oct 07, 2023 5:00 pm

The fixtures up till New Year will show us where we are.

Probably time to start getting excited after this international break.

burnley007 · Post by **burnley007** » Sat Oct 07, 2023 5:01 pm

Worst half I can remember watching for a long time.

Chelsea are nothing.

JimmyRobbo · Post by **JimmyRobbo** » Sat Oct 07, 2023 5:02 pm

Andreshotboots wrote: ↑
Sat Oct 07, 2023 4:53 pm
So my football knowledge is poor when I'm pointing out how hard our home fixtures have been?

Which ones would you say we're highly "winnable" then for a newly promoted team?

Honestly, don't bother. He's as weak willed as any on here. Just turns up to moan. Throws his tantrum. Nothing constructive to add. Virtually no football knowledge. Probably never played after he left school.

I suspect that's his life to a tee.

FCBurnley · Post by **FCBurnley** » Sat Oct 07, 2023 5:03 pm

Can’t wait for the markings

SalisburyClaret · Post by **SalisburyClaret** » Sat Oct 07, 2023 5:04 pm

We have a lot of young players who could fit into an established side but as a group on their own they are always going to struggle.

Stan Tastic · Post by **Stan Tastic** » Sat Oct 07, 2023 5:04 pm

Could be worse having seen that Brentford have conceded two in the last four minutes of added time. At least we know where we stand towards the end of a game.

JimmyRobbo · Post by **JimmyRobbo** » Sat Oct 07, 2023 5:05 pm

burnley007 wrote: ↑
Sat Oct 07, 2023 5:01 pm
Worst half I can remember watching for a long time.

Chelsea are nothing.

Forgotten Spurs? It's got to be close!

I can take the ride with its ups and downs. As long as we keep developing, in general. Man, it's frustrating though.

JimmyRobbo · Post by **JimmyRobbo** » Sat Oct 07, 2023 5:09 pm

SalisburyClaret wrote: ↑
Sat Oct 07, 2023 5:04 pm
We have a lot of young players who could fit into an established side but as a group on their own they are always going to struggle.

Nailed it. Exactly this.

Either they grow or we buy the man in midfield that we were craving along with a more attacking LB.

Croydon Claret · Post by **Croydon Claret** » Sat Oct 07, 2023 5:13 pm

Looking forward to the 25 threads that will be opened post match, all basically discussing the same thing

Pickles · Post by **Pickles** » Sat Oct 07, 2023 5:14 pm

Croydon Claret wrote: ↑
Sat Oct 07, 2023 5:13 pm
Looking forward to the 25 threads that will be opened post match, all basically discussing the same thing

People's inability to look at what threads have already been started before starting a new one goes through the roof when we lose a game.

Croydon Claret · Post by **Croydon Claret** » Sat Oct 07, 2023 5:16 pm

Pickles wrote: ↑
Sat Oct 07, 2023 5:14 pm
People's inability to look at what threads have already been started before starting a new one goes through the roof when we lose a game.

Yeah it's the same every time. People get in a rage and hit the "New thread" button when their point would usually just be a continuation of an existing discussion.

Newcastleclaret93 · Post by **Newcastleclaret93** » Sat Oct 07, 2023 5:18 pm

As much people are calling out individual players I actually VK has struggled more than any player.

His decisions are baffling at times.

Really not sure he’s as good as we thought.

JimmyRobbo · Post by **JimmyRobbo** » Sat Oct 07, 2023 5:23 pm

Newcastleclaret93 wrote: ↑
Sat Oct 07, 2023 5:18 pm
As much people are calling out individual players I actually VK has struggled more than any player.

His decisions are baffling at times.

Really not sure he’s as good as we thought.

Nobody can be the genius that we decided to anoint him as. I'm happy with him, though. He'll get things wrong. If we don't win, which will be most matches this year, he will be criticised rather than praised. Everyone will second guess him. He'll have his reasons.

Superjohnnyfrancis · Post by **Superjohnnyfrancis** » Sat Oct 07, 2023 5:26 pm

Petersa wrote: ↑
Sat Oct 07, 2023 4:39 pm
Kids trying to do a mans job get proper adult players in....Muric in to stop Trafford putting the defence under pressure time an d time again...Cork in to organise the middle of the park..Edal and Beyer in defence(yes I know they are currently injured) PLEASE

Exactly

Nori1958 · Post by **Nori1958** » Sat Oct 07, 2023 5:29 pm

JohnDearyMe wrote: ↑
Sat Oct 07, 2023 4:50 pm
What has Zaroury done to not even get a place on the bench?

Got injured... Got sent off....

Nori1958 · Post by **Nori1958** » Sat Oct 07, 2023 5:30 pm

Croydon Claret wrote: ↑
Sat Oct 07, 2023 5:16 pm
Yeah it's the same every time. People get in a rage and hit the "New thread" button when their point would usually just be a continuation of an existing discussion.

I think it's more the..... Look at me.... Syndrome