England U21'S

[gc14]

Currently 0-2 down at half-time in Ukraine , if anyone interested (probably not !!) it's being shown
live on Youtube

[Buxtonclaret]

Cheers, gc.
Gad totally forgot about it! Been watching cricket.

[Goodclaret]

Maybe best not to watch their second goal too closely ........

[Buxtonclaret]

Maybe best not to watch their second goal too closely ........

Oh dear. Sounds ominous!

[AGENT_CLARET]

Maybe best not to watch their second goal too closely ........

Wow that was pathetic keeping, some on hear still think we'll make millions on Trafford

[claretandy]

Oh dear 🫣

[ClaretAL]

Anyone got a link to the goal in question?

[Goodclaret]

2-1 now. Nice finish from Madueke.

[AGENT_CLARET]

Anyone got a link to the goal in question?

https://twitter.com/DUtekhin/status/171 ... V7lsQ&s=19

[ClaretAL]

https://twitter.com/DUtekhin/status/171 ... V7lsQ&s=19

Cheers and not good. I really do think for himself he needs a break out of the firing line and get his confidence back up. Some time to continue with a player underperforming m, it can breed complacency, but I’m sure VK has an eye on that.

[CoolClaret]

tRaFf’S gOnNa bE a WoRlD cLaSs KeEpEr

[AGENT_CLARET]

Cheers and not good. I really do think for himself he needs a break out of the firing line and get his confidence back up. Some time to continue with a player underperforming m, it can breed complacency, but I’m sure VK has an eye on that.

I've been saying the same thing for the last few games, kompany is not doing Trafford (I feel sorry for him) or The team any favours by playing him week in week out just because of his price tag

[Buxtonclaret]

Get in!!

[Buxtonclaret]

Drat.
He wont be pleased with that either.

[Buxtonclaret]

Lost 3-2

[ClaretAL]

I've been saying the same thing for the last few games, kompany is not doing Trafford (I feel sorry for him) or The team any favours by playing him week in week out just because of his price tag

I don’t think it has anything to do with the price tag, more to do with man management and backing your player when it’s not going well. But I really do think we are at the Joe Hart point and for all involved a break would benefit all.

[Taffy on the wing]

https://twitter.com/DUtekhin/status/171 ... V7lsQ&s=19

He looks really small.....that was very poor.

[boatshed bill]

I've been saying the same thing for the last few games, kompany is not doing Trafford (I feel sorry for him) or The team any favours by playing him week in week out just because of his price tag

If the price tag is the only reason he's in the team then I totally agree with you.
However, we can't say for sure that it is the only reason Trafford is being selected ahead of Muric.

[boatshed bill]

He looks really small.....that was very poor.

Yes, and yet he's within a couple of mms of Muric's height.

[AGENT_CLARET]

I don’t think it has anything to do with the price tag, more to do with man management and backing your player when it’s not going well. But I really do think we are at the Joe Hart point and for all involved a break would benefit all.

It's 100% the price tag, he was put straight into a team playing two levels above anything he's played before, he replaced Muric who at the very minimum deserved to start the season, he played fantastic in one level below and knew Kompany's system inside out unlike Trafford, It's 100% the price tag

[StayingDown4Ever]

Absolute trash again.

[Taffy on the wing]

Yes, and yet he's within a couple of mms of Muric's height.

Hard to believe looking at the goal above...have you seen it? Shockingly poor.

[chekhov]

Fair play to Ukraine. Gives them something to be cheerful about amid all their country’s going through. Their fans looked happy!

[AGENT_CLARET]

Yes, and yet he's within a couple of mms of Muric's height.

Live in the flesh he looks a lot smaller than the quoted 6ft 6 he's supposed to be

[Elizabeth]

Really can't see Kompany dropping Trafford after the team's baptism of fire.
Why can't those pushing this agenda just wait to see how he does over the next few games.
Any comparison to the Hart situation , whilst sincere, is misguided.

[boatshed bill]

Live in the flesh he looks a lot smaller than the quoted 6ft 6 he's supposed to be

Yes, he certainly does. But he looks tallest (apart from Berge) out of the 11 when the teams line up.

[AGENT_CLARET]

The winner

https://twitter.com/ZoryaLondonsk/statu ... f_KOA&s=19

[AGENT_CLARET]

Yes, he certainly does. But he looks tallest (apart from Berge) out of the 11 when the teams line up.

I'm only 5ft 10 but even I'd look tall in our line up

[CoolClaret]

Live in the flesh he looks a lot smaller than the quoted 6ft 6 he's supposed to be

Looks small as well because of his frame, narrow shoulders and hasn’t filled out.

[boatshed bill]

Really can't see Kompany dropping Trafford after the team's baptism of fire.
Why can't those pushing this agenda just wait to see how he does over the next few games.
Any comparison to the Hart situation , whilst sincere, is misguided.

I don't think there is an agenda, just genuine concern.
Letting this quantity of goals in must be damaging the lad's confidence.
TBH, the 3 goals tonight weren't that special.

[AGENT_CLARET]

I don't think there is an agenda, just genuine concern.
Letting this quantity of goals in must be damaging the lad's confidence.
TBH, the 3 goals tonight weren't that special.

X3 shots on Target equalled x3 goal's

[Elizabeth]

I don't think there is an agenda, just genuine concern.
Letting this quantity of goals in must be damaging the lad's confidence.
TBH, the 3 goals tonight weren't that special.

Yes bill I'm sure it is genuine concern but how often does this need to be expressed? It's happening too often by the same posters that's why I carefully used the word ' agenda'

[CoolClaret]

Yes bill I'm sure it is genuine concern but how often does this need to be expressed? It's happening too often by the same posters that's why I carefully used the word ' agenda'

If the agenda is wanting our best possible XI to play the game at all times so we can not get panned / delude ourselves into thinking the manager has assembled a squad reflective of the spend then yeah I guess that’s an agenda.

Some would just say it’s ‘calling a spade a spade’

[claretandy]

Yes, and yet he's within a couple of mms of Muric's height.

No he isn't.

[boatshed bill]

No he isn't.

James Harrington Trafford is an English professional footballer who plays as a goalkeeper for Premier League club Burnley. Wikipedia
Born: 10 October 2002 (age 21 years), Carlisle
Current teams: England national under-21 football team (#1 / Goalkeeper), Burnley F.C. (#1 / Goalkeeper)
Dates joined: 2022 (Bolton Wanderers F.C.), 2020 (Manchester City F.C. under-23, Manchester City F.C. under-21)
Height: 1.97 m

[Elizabeth]

If the agenda is wanting our best possible XI to play the game at all times so we can not get panned / delude ourselves into thinking the manager has assembled a squad reflective of the spend then yeah I guess that’s an agenda.

Some would just say it’s ‘calling a spade a spade’

Natural you should reply as you are one of the chief protagonists

[CoolClaret]

Natural you should reply as you are one of the chief protagonists

Realists*

[boatshed bill]

Arijanet Anan Muric is a professional footballer who plays as a goalkeeper for Premier League club Burnley. Born in Switzerland, he plays for the Kosovo national team. Wikipedia
Born: 7 November 1998 (age 24 years), Schlieren, Switzerland
Current teams: Burnley F.C. (#49 / Goalkeeper), Kosovo national football team (Goalkeeper)
Nationality: Montenegrin, Swiss
Dates joined: 2022 (Burnley F.C.), 2021 (Adana Demirspor), MORE
Height: 1.98 m
Weight: 81 kg

[BleedingClaret]

He’s 6ft 3 ins

[boatshed bill]

He’s 6ft 3 ins

That definitely looks more like it. I was only going off the stats available.
So still a very big lad who doesn't look his size when shaping up in goal.

[AGENT_CLARET]

Yes, and yet he's within a couple of mms of Muric's height.

75mm isn't a couple of mms

[boatshed bill]

75mm isn't a couple of mms

Like I say, just going off those stats.

[AGENT_CLARET]

That definitely looks more like it. I was only going off the stats available.
So still a very big lad who doesn't look his size when shaping up in goal.

His small frame makes him look a smaller

[BleedingClaret]

That definitely looks more like it. I was only going off the stats available.
So still a very big lad who doesn't look his size when shaping up in goal.

Agreed

[boatshed bill]

His small frame makes him look a smaller

Small frame, or just how he shapes up?
He really does look small at times, and 6'3" isn't small.

[Elizabeth]

Realists*

I have doubts about Trafford but would hardly call myself a realist. More a reflector who will make his judgement when he has seen more evidence. That way it gives me more scope to shift opinion if my original assessment is hasty.

[claretandy]

James Harrington Trafford is an English professional footballer who plays as a goalkeeper for Premier League club Burnley. Wikipedia
Born: 10 October 2002 (age 21 years), Carlisle
Current teams: England national under-21 football team (#1 / Goalkeeper), Burnley F.C. (#1 / Goalkeeper)
Dates joined: 2022 (Bolton Wanderers F.C.), 2020 (Manchester City F.C. under-23, Manchester City F.C. under-21)
Height: 1.97 m

Look at the picture, it doesn't lie, there's at least 2 inches between them.

[boatshed bill]

Realistically, letting all these goals in could really be damaging his confidence.
Perhaps a few games out wouldn't do him any harm.

[boatshed bill]

Look at the picture, it doesn't lie, there's at least 2 inches between them.

Don't worry about it Andy, we've done all that now.
But here's a little anecdote:
I'm an ex keeper, and in the best team I ever played for both centrebacks were taller than me. Our manager told me to stand on tip-toes for team pics!

[Tricky Trevor]

He looks really small.....that was very poor.

Strange cos before he signed we were told, on here, he was 6’4”. On the recent squad photo he is stood between Muric and Berge and is smaller than both.