Drummers required...DRUMMERS

[dougcollins]

Let's start the petition to ban it before it starts.

[Vegas Claret]

Drivel? Sorry but you are being ridiculous. Can you please explain to me how you can possibly know what the atmosphere is like in a ground when you are not there?

Away fans that have been to the Emirates this season have all made comment about how much better it is for reasons I've already outlined. Guess everyone is just making it up then.

Or are we talking about the Turf ?

The place where social media, this site included, is full of people saying how bad the atmosphere is, where the lads I know who go to the games says it's absolute toss (and the said the same quite a lot last season too) - after all, if the atmosphere was good they wouldn't be suggesting the trial of the dreaded drum.

The away fans are class, not sure why it's struggling to be replicated at the Turf, so I'll say the same - instead of having a pop at the club for wanting to try something new maybe people should try and come up with an alternative (that's not a drum!). I've already mentioned the Cardiff game, I know for a fact that they know about the atmosphere that day - it got everyone in the ground involved, a drum won't do that.

[Vegas Claret]

Haven't read all the thread but has this proposal been discussed at the Fans Advisory Board (or whatever it's called)?

[ŽižkovClaret]

I, for one, would like to propose the introduction of Bene n Hot on the Las Vegas strip. It looks like it would do well based on when i've seen Vegas on telly.

[CoolClaret]

that's why the scarf is a better idea than a drum, it includes everyone in the ground. I get why they are going to trial a drum but I don't think it's the right thing - but they have to try something because the fans aren't taking it upon themselves to do anything.

I mean they did that once and no supporter brought it back the next game

Definitely need some sort of anthem (that isn't a tinpot attempt of ripping off Penny Lane)

[dougcollins]

There’s me thinking you were a synth bass!

Ooh, a minimoog is SO much more than that!

[ClaretTony]

Away fans that have been to the Emirates this season have all made comment about how much better it is for reasons I've already outlined. Guess everyone is just making it up then.

It's not sunk in has it so I really will give up. You are basing it all on what you might have read and not from any experience. I'm going to Arsenal next month, that's when I'll judge it.

But back to the theme of the thread - and we have to do all we can to put a stop to this nonsensical idea.

[Vegas Claret]

Because he's based it on heresay having not witnessed it. It's always been flat previously, really flat, not called the library for nothing. We are there in a few weeks so we can see what it's like then.

so because we've personally not witnessed it it isn't real ? Did we land on the moon ?

[CoolClaret]

Ooh, a minimoog is SO much more than that!

Aye that it is, I was getting my moogs mixed up!

[Vegas Claret]

It's not sunk in has it so I really will give up. You are basing it all on what you might have read and not from any experience. I'm going to Arsenal next month, that's when I'll judge it.

But back to the theme of the thread - and we have to do all we can to put a stop to this nonsensical idea.

Scarfs and flags, better music choice before and at half time - that's Brentford's secret

[dougcollins]

Never mind a drum, sitting the people down in block A JHL didn't help.

No, I'm not in there.

[Vegas Claret]

I mean they did that once and no supporter brought it back the next game

Definitely need some sort of anthem (that isn't a tinpot attempt of ripping off Penny Lane)

that's because they wanted another freebie, cheapskate bastards

[Burnley1989]

I, for one, would like to propose the introduction of Bene n Hot on the Las Vegas strip. It looks like it would do well based on when i've seen Vegas on telly.

Not sure why you’re being a dick

[Newcastleclaret93]

Because he's based it on heresay having not witnessed it. It's always been flat previously, really flat, not called the library for nothing. We are there in a few weeks so we can see what it's like then.

I do understand your point Tony, but I disagree watch this video and tell me you can’t tell the atmosphere was amazing

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=6T7Zc6jPgrs

[Vegas Claret]

Not sure why you’re being a dick

it's all some people can offer

[PWBFC]

We all form opinions based on what we see on TV which is usually valid. I've never been to Dortmund but pretty confident the atmosphere is usually very good. Same for an Old Firm derby etc.

What actually constitutes a good atmosphere is where you'll find more nuanced discussion.

[ClaretTony]

Scarfs and flags, better music choice before and at half time - that's Brentford's secret

Not from what I witnessed but I’m not sure what scarves do to improve the atmosphere during a game. They were just a home crowd making a lot of noise and supporting their team.

The loudest stadium has to be Spurs. It was awesome last time we went.

[Vegas Claret]

Not from what I witnessed but I’m not sure what scarves do to improve the atmosphere during a game. They were just a home crowd making a lot of noise and supporting their team.

The loudest stadium has to be Spurs. It was awesome last time we went.

other than winning games, how do we replicate it ?

And yes, Spurs looks and sounds special - even better this season as they have started well

[Lu-tze]

End of the day everyone’s atmosphere at home is crap with a few exceptions;
You’re a newly promoted team who hasn’t been in the top division for a good few years (us in 2009, leeds, stoke etc) but after after a few seasons the novelty wears off and the atmosphere goes.
Or you’re a big team playing a big game (a derby/glitzy European tie) or challenging for title you haven’t won for a long time (arsenal, Newcastle this season) but when you actually win it the novelty wears off and the atmosphere goes eg Man United/city.
Drum or no drum will not change this.

[Dark Cloud]

End of the day everyone’s atmosphere at home is crap with a few exceptions;
You’re a newly promoted team who hasn’t been in the top division for a good few years (us in 2009, leeds, stoke etc) but after after a few seasons the novelty wears off and the atmosphere goes.
Or you’re a big team playing a big game (a derby/glitzy European tie) or challenging for title you haven’t won for a long time (arsenal, Newcastle this season) but when you actually win it the novelty wears off and the atmosphere goes eg Man United/city.
Drum or no drum will not change this.

There's a lot of truth in this and I'll also add that home atmosphere is far better when you're actually scoring and winning. Against both Spurs and Chelsea the ground was rocking when we were playing well, on top, scoring and leading. It's naturally pretty crap when you're 3-1 down! Drum or no drum!!!

[Stagger Lee]

Not quite my tempo

[Goody1975]

The atmosphere on the whole was decent last season but that is to be expected considering our side was so good.

In complete contrast, it is hardly surprising that the atmosphere is so quiet this season, we have taken several humpings against City, Villa, Spurs and Chelsea. The game against Man Utd was okay but too often we aren't creating sustained pressure to get the crowd involved.

The time to judge is when we play 'competitive' fixtures against teams ******* in the same pond as us.

[Minimoog]

Aye that it is, I was getting my moogs mixed up!

Polymoog also..some deep sounds they made although apparently hard to keep in tune...

[Goody1975]

End of the day everyone’s atmosphere at home is crap with a few exceptions;
You’re a newly promoted team who hasn’t been in the top division for a good few years (us in 2009, leeds, stoke etc) but after after a few seasons the novelty wears off and the atmosphere goes.
Or you’re a big team playing a big game (a derby/glitzy European tie) or challenging for title you haven’t won for a long time (arsenal, Newcastle this season) but when you actually win it the novelty wears off and the atmosphere goes eg Man United/city.
Drum or no drum will not change this.

Correct, the biggest myth in world football is the atmosphere at Anfield. On big nights (especially in Europe) it's as good as anywhere in the world but too often for 'run of the mill' games it's flat and as quiet as anywhere else in the league.

[Lubanski]

No thanks, I don't think teams with drummers do any better than those without, I like to hear the murmur of disapproval when something goes wrong.

[Vegas Claret]

we aren't creating sustained pressure to get the crowd involved.

I said this exact thing to one of the lads who goes, it's the biggest influence on it

[Goody1975]

I said this exact thing to one of the lads who goes, it's the biggest influence on it

Probably one of the only spells we have created was against Chelsea when the game had already gone. We won several corners and although we didn't create clear cut chances, the crowd reacted and upped the volume.

[Vegas Claret]

Probably one of the only spells we have created was against Chelsea when the game had already gone. We won several corners and although we didn't create clear cut chances, the crowd reacted and upped the volume.

yep it was noticeable

[bfcjg]

PARP PARP,
PARP PARP PARP,
PARP PARP PARP PARP
BURNLEY
worked in the Longside

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[Pickles]

The way to get around this is simple. Encourage the drum. Sing along with it. Make it a roaring success. So successful... that it makes people in the Longside lower stand up in front of the posh seats. They'll quickly get rid of it then.

[bumba]

Rather get a guy with a megaphone stood at the front of the James Hargreaves lower and one in front of Fishwick getting the songs going like in Europe than a drummer.
An annoying drummer is the last thing we need

[Paul Waine]

A band of drummers would be great. They could beat out the beat to "We are the Longside Burnley." We could all join in with the chant. Some might even keep in time with the drummers.

I'd also get them to beat out a drum roll for key dead ball re-starts, kick off, free kicks, corners - and an extra special one when Burnley get a penalty.

We'd also want a triumphant "rat-a-tat-tat," double time when we score.

If we can get a group of drummers in each of the four corners of the ground the excitement will be tremendous. Maybe there are some drum beats that could sound from one corner to the next with the sound reverberating from corner to corner around the ground.

The drummers could be called the Burnley Beat!

What's not to like.

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[ŽižkovClaret]

Not sure why you’re being a dick

Some low threshold you have

I have two season tickets.

One is for a club here, they have a drummer. It works

One is for Burnley, where the idea of a drummer feels so contrived and forced that it would be anathema to what makes a matchday at th Turf what it is

People should acknowledge when their experience is not based on the same level of exposure as others, and accept that their opinions will be judged as somewhat less well-founded as a result.

I'm baffled as to why this is difficult for some to grasp

[Elizabeth]

There is no scientific analysis required for understanding the currently crap atmosphere at home games - it’s because we’ve already grown accustomed to being pummelled heavily and the teams heads are dropping as soon as we concede

That simply isn't the case jedi. At the last home game we were 1-0 up against Chelsea who were starting to get into the game and boss things. It was like a library with the home fans when what was needed was some great vocal support to help and encourage the lads.

Your theory is fine but the reality is different. The cricket field fans are not doing enough to get the ground going( when they are actually watching the match) and excuses about not being able to stand at the back of the Longside lower are exactly that, excuses.

I'm not sure whether I like the idea of one big drum incessantly banging but does anyone know that it will be exactly that ?

[GodIsADeeJay81]

Arsenals atmosphere is much improved and is one of the best in the league now.

No idea why people have piled on Vegas for his correct observation.

That’s because they’re competitive again, so the fans are more buoyed up

In previous seasons, when they’re weren’t competitive it was utter toss

[boyyanno]

Only if it’s decent like - I remember that ‘Burnley Football Club’ song someone wrote thinking they were John Lennon and it was f***ing dreadful.

We do desperately need some new chants like, no doubt about that - uplifting chants that are about the team and not how much we hate Blackburn or love women’s genitalia and preferably not at 240 BPM

Yep I remember that, started with "Burnleeeehhhhh football club" did it not first come in the Coyle promotion season? Used to make me cringe so bad hearing it!

[northeastclaret]

I'm not sure whether I like the idea of one big drum incessantly banging but does anyone know that it will be exactly that ?
[/quote]

Incessantly or with breaks , it’s a very limited instrument in this context so imagine it will sound like a big stick with a ball on the end hitting a taught canvas skin then repeat

[Volvoclaret]

Get Chico to lead the singing.
Seriously, the atmosphere at Wembley against Australia was flat as was the game. Last night it was electric. Exciting games created exciting atmosphere.

[Gunfury]

All those who are against this could always turn their deaf aids down a touch
However having been in several bands,drummers tend to be unreliable bell ends anyway

[beddie]

Pom Pom cheerleaders, a Drummer and goal music, It all sounds wonderful, I just can’t wait for that Mach Day Experience.

[Minimoog]

All those who are against this could always turn their deaf aids down a touch
However having been in several bands,drummers tend to be unreliable bell ends anyway

Steady on.....first to the gig..last to leave, all the tools to fix broken amps and guitars...
Generally a sore neck from shaking head watching the egos in front twiddling knobs instead of playing the song...
Sore throat from shouting at the singer stood at the bar talking shiiiiite...

[Elizabeth]

I'm not sure whether I like the idea of one big drum incessantly banging but does anyone know that it will be exactly that ?

Incessantly or with breaks , it’s a very limited instrument in this context so imagine it will sound like a big stick with a ball on the end hitting a taught canvas skin then repeat
[/quote]

You know what I'd like , a trio of drummer boys beating a tune as a signal for the fans to start singing. Imagine a new breed of songs spouting up and the feel good atmosphere.
If you don't get it you're missing something in your life

[Elizabeth]

You know what I'd like , a trio of drummer boys beating a tune as a signal for the fans to start singing. Imagine a new breed of songs spouting up and the feel good atmosphere.
If you don't get it you're missing something in your life
[/quote]

[Gunfury]

Steady on.....first to the gig..last to leave, all the tools to fix broken amps and guitars...
Generally a sore neck from shaking head watching the egos in front twiddling knobs instead of playing the song...
Sore throat from shouting at the singer stood at the bar talking shiiiiite...

Try getting them to turn up to rehearsals on a regular basis though
I’m neither a shoutist or a knob twiddler,I’m a bass player which technically makes me the cool one haha

[Elizabeth]

Sorry missed out the trumpet

[CoolClaret]

Yep I remember that, started with "Burnleeeehhhhh football club" did it not first come in the Coyle promotion season? Used to make me cringe so bad hearing it!

That's the one

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XgPNIzyeOxs

Dreadful

[dougcollins]

Polymoog also..some deep sounds they made although apparently hard to keep in tune...

I had 2 minis and a full Moog, all gone now, alas.

[Funkydrummer]

All those who are against this could always turn their deaf aids down a touch
However having been in several bands,drummers tend to be unreliable bell ends anyway

Oi !!!!!!

What may help to build the atmosphere is the lowering of the volume of the incessant music before kick off ( not necessarily the team entrance music) and the release from duty of the "on field" announcer over which it is almost impossible to talk to anyone. Again the volume at which this is delivered is totally unnecessary.

In short, keep the decibels down on the pa.

[ClaretTony]

Oi !!!!!!

What may help to build the atmosphere is the lowering of the volume of the incessant music before kick off ( not necessarily the team entrance music) and the release from duty of the "on field" announcer over which it is almost impossible to talk to anyone. Again the volume at which this is delivered is totally unnecessary.

In short, keep the decibels down on the pa.

Not sure where you sit but the PA is hardly audible where we are. This season the ground I’ve been on where it was really blasted out was Forest.

[Woodleyclaret]

The atmosphere at the Turf is directly propitionate to us attacking at speed with our wingers taking the pxxx and us scoring
Passing back constantly then rolling over after one goal goes in causes mass exodus and a library atmosphere
A drummer is a totally mental idea