Brentford v Burnley match thread.

groove · Post by **groove** » Sat Oct 21, 2023 2:00 pm

Could someone post the line up please?

Zom Zom · Post by **Zom Zom** » Sat Oct 21, 2023 2:03 pm

Burnley XI: Trafford, Roberts, Al Dakhil, O’Shea, Taylor, Berge, Cullen, Amdouni, Tresor, Foster, Odobert.
Substitutes: Muric, Cork, Brownhill, Rodriguez, Redmond, Zaroury, Koleosho, Bruun Larsen, Delcroix.

Rick_Muller · Post by **Rick_Muller** » Sat Oct 21, 2023 2:03 pm

groove wrote: ↑
Sat Oct 21, 2023 2:00 pm
Could someone post the line up please?

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HahaYeah · Post by **HahaYeah** » Sat Oct 21, 2023 2:04 pm

1 Trafford
14 Roberts
28 Al Dakhil
2O 'Shea
3 Taylor
16 Berge
24 Cullen
31 Trésor
25 Amdouni
47 Odobert
17 Foster

Substitutes
4 Cork
8 Brownhill
9 Rodríguez
15 Redmond
19 Zaroury
30 Koleosho
34 Bruun Larsen
44 Delcroix
49 Muric

jedi_master · Post by **jedi_master** » Sat Oct 21, 2023 2:06 pm

Need to see a massive improvement from Tresor to justify keeping his position ahead of the likes of Larsen, Zaroury and Koleosho. Brave dropping Brownhill and putting Amdouni in.

ksrclaret · Post by **ksrclaret** » Sat Oct 21, 2023 2:07 pm

Hmmm.

Yikes.

bfcjg · Post by **bfcjg** » Sat Oct 21, 2023 2:07 pm

Hmmmmmm

Nonayforever · Post by **Nonayforever** » Sat Oct 21, 2023 2:07 pm

Attack, attack, attack.

groove · Post by **groove** » Sat Oct 21, 2023 2:07 pm

There's goals in that selection.

daveisaclaret · Post by **daveisaclaret** » Sat Oct 21, 2023 2:08 pm

Think it's a good team me, despite the choices on the wing not being the ones any of us would make. 0-3 to Burnley

burnleymik · Post by **burnleymik** » Sat Oct 21, 2023 2:08 pm

Berge back in the holding position, where he is arguably weaker. Squeezes amdouni back in. Tresor needs to show an awful lot more than he did last game.

Hope it works out this time. They don't look that strong with Maupaybup top.

Zom Zom · Post by **Zom Zom** » Sat Oct 21, 2023 2:08 pm

groove wrote: ↑
Sat Oct 21, 2023 2:07 pm
There's goals in that selection.

At both ends I fear...

ElectroClaret · Post by **ElectroClaret** » Sat Oct 21, 2023 2:09 pm

jedi_master wrote: ↑
Sat Oct 21, 2023 2:06 pm
Need to see a massive improvement from Tresor to justify keeping his position ahead of the likes of Larsen, Zaroury and Koleosho. Brave dropping Brownhill and putting Amdouni in.

Yeah.
Seems to me at the moment that VK is throwing names in the air and seeing where they land.

Colburn_Claret · Post by **Colburn_Claret** » Sat Oct 21, 2023 2:09 pm

I'd have preferred Muric, but nobody can be surprised VK hasn't. I really hope Trafford has a great game, heneeds a confidence boost.
The rest of the team can pick itself. Koleosho looked great,but he also looked like he needed a rest.
Tresor owes himself after the Chelsea game, he's obviously better than that, I think he was trying too hard, and that can cost you sometimes.

Come on Burnley

StayingDown4Ever · Post by **StayingDown4Ever** » Sat Oct 21, 2023 2:11 pm

Muric is never getting back in the team is he?

Sheedyclaret · Post by **Sheedyclaret** » Sat Oct 21, 2023 2:11 pm

groove wrote: ↑
Sat Oct 21, 2023 2:07 pm
There's goals in that selection.

Yep the problem is the majority will be in our net

Rick_Muller · Post by **Rick_Muller** » Sat Oct 21, 2023 2:11 pm

First time I’ve ever had my wallet emptied by a steward on entry into football. Apparently it’s a “condition of entry” that they can take you wallet and take stuff out. Looking for drugs apparently, but still, would rather they didn’t drop a keepsake from my late father on the floor and stand on it and almost ruining it.

What has the world come to FFS

CoolClaret · Post by **CoolClaret** » Sat Oct 21, 2023 2:15 pm

Another utterly uninspiring lineup

Safron · Post by **Safron** » Sat Oct 21, 2023 2:16 pm

Jesus 11 players with not an ounce of fight in there bellies, and not one leader, long day

dermotdermot · Post by **dermotdermot** » Sat Oct 21, 2023 2:17 pm

I’d have put Delcroix ahead of O’Shea any day of the week.

taio · Post by **taio** » Sat Oct 21, 2023 2:17 pm

Moaning before the game has even kicked off

DCWat · Post by **DCWat** » Sat Oct 21, 2023 2:18 pm

Whichever line up we pick, my overriding thought is that the centre of midfield and defence doesn’t look strong enough.

We have very few options up front and the full back areas are an injury or red card away from being a massive problem.

I do think that we have the quality out wide (we should do with all of the wingers that we have in the squad), it’s just a case of getting the wide players bedded in and performing consistently.

January definitely needs to be another busy one, which I’m not sure that it really should be, with what we have spent.

Centre midfield
Centre half (unless we see improvements)
Striker
Full backs

Anyway, onto today and let’s hope that we put in a much better performance.

Carwin261 · Post by **Carwin261** » Sat Oct 21, 2023 2:19 pm

Nearly every Premier League side has a ball winner,where’s ours?

DCWat · Post by **DCWat** » Sat Oct 21, 2023 2:20 pm

Safron wrote: ↑
Sat Oct 21, 2023 2:16 pm
Jesus 11 players with not an ounce of fight in there bellies, and not one leader, long day

I don’t see a real leader in our team, I must admit.

Buxtonclaret · Post by **Buxtonclaret** » Sat Oct 21, 2023 2:21 pm

COME ON UUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU CLARETS!!!

ElectroClaret · Post by **ElectroClaret** » Sat Oct 21, 2023 2:22 pm

DCWat wrote: ↑
Sat Oct 21, 2023 2:20 pm
I don’t see a real leader in our team, I must admit.

Brownhill the only one that remotely springs to mind and he's on the bench.

groove · Post by **groove** » Sat Oct 21, 2023 2:23 pm

Sheedyclaret wrote: ↑
Sat Oct 21, 2023 2:11 pm
Yep the problem is the majority will be in our net

Yes. I was being ambiguous

Ampth7 · Post by **Ampth7** » Sat Oct 21, 2023 2:23 pm

Cullen is a leader…….

Dark Cloud · Post by **Dark Cloud** » Sat Oct 21, 2023 2:24 pm

I'm very much in the camp which sees Brownhill as a brilliant Championship player, but someone who struggles much of the time with the huge step up to the level above. Having said that, he's the best we currently have at stemming opposition attacks and breaking up their play and how we can leave him out of our midfield when we're shipping goals for fun every week is beyond "brave", it's plain daft (imo).

Clive 1960 · Post by **Clive 1960** » Sat Oct 21, 2023 2:24 pm

looks like we are going to attack with that team.

DCWat · Post by **DCWat** » Sat Oct 21, 2023 2:24 pm

ElectroClaret wrote: ↑
Sat Oct 21, 2023 2:22 pm
Brownhill the only one that remotely springs to mind and he's on the bench.

Quite, and I don’t really see him as a real leader on the pitch.

DCWat · Post by **DCWat** » Sat Oct 21, 2023 2:27 pm

Dark Cloud wrote: ↑
Sat Oct 21, 2023 2:24 pm
I'm very much in the camp which sees Brownhill as a brilliant Championship player, but someone who struggles much of the time with the huge step up to the level above. Having said that, he's the best we currently have at stemming opposition attacks and breaking up their play and how we can leave him out of our midfield when we're shipping goals for fun every week is beyond "brave", it's plain daft (imo).

I’m hoping that we might start to see that from Berge. Spice and I think a couple of others have suggested that may be his best position - further back and breaking up play.

I don’t see it and think he’s better utilised further forward. I’ll be happy to be proven wrong on that front.

Lowbankclaret · Post by **Lowbankclaret** » Sat Oct 21, 2023 2:28 pm

StayingDown4Ever wrote: ↑
Sat Oct 21, 2023 2:11 pm
Muric is never getting back in the team is he?

Nope will be sold in January.

jojomk1 · Post by **jojomk1** » Sat Oct 21, 2023 2:29 pm

Dark Cloud wrote: ↑
Sat Oct 21, 2023 2:24 pm
I'm very much in the camp which sees Brownhill as a brilliant Championship player, but someone who struggles much of the time with the huge step up to the level above. Having said that, he's the best we currently have at stemming opposition attacks and breaking up their play and how we can leave him out of our midfield when we're shipping goals for fun every week is beyond "brave", it's plain daft (imo).

It would be fair (and understandable) to say the vast majority of our squad have struggled with the huge step up

Central midfield has been our glaring weakness and now we drop a cm in Brownhill

summitclaret · Post by **summitclaret** » Sat Oct 21, 2023 2:29 pm

Think we'll need to score at least 2 to get anything with that unbalanced line up.

summitclaret · Post by **summitclaret** » Sat Oct 21, 2023 2:31 pm

DCWat wrote: ↑
Sat Oct 21, 2023 2:27 pm
I’m hoping that we might start to see that from Berge. Spice and I think a couple of others have suggested that may be his best position - further back and breaking up play.

I don’t see it and think he’s better utilised further forward. I’ll be happy to be proven wrong on that front.

He doesn't tackle.

Rick_Muller · Post by **Rick_Muller** » Sat Oct 21, 2023 2:31 pm

I truly hope I can get a large tub of custard to go with the humble pie after todays game…

I have a good feeling about this game

NewClaret · Post by **NewClaret** » Sat Oct 21, 2023 2:32 pm

Given the other selections I would’ve preferred Brownhill for Berge for balance. Very attacking team.

Anthonini · Post by **Anthonini** » Sat Oct 21, 2023 2:35 pm

Looks good up the Clarets!

Colburn_Claret · Post by **Colburn_Claret** » Sat Oct 21, 2023 2:35 pm

Ampth7 wrote: ↑
Sat Oct 21, 2023 2:23 pm
Cullen is a leader…….

He's a steady Eddie, but far too quiet to be a leader.

The problem we had against Chelsea was the back 5 failing to find our wide men or forwards. If we **** around with it at the back we will get mullered again, BUT if we can find an out ball we can hurt anybody.

jedi_master · Post by **jedi_master** » Sat Oct 21, 2023 2:35 pm

My wife rarely predicts and when she does is rarely wrong: “You’ll win today”.

Dark Cloud · Post by **Dark Cloud** » Sat Oct 21, 2023 2:38 pm

Colburn_Claret wrote: ↑
Sat Oct 21, 2023 2:35 pm
He's a steady Eddie, but far too quiet to be a leader.

The problem we had against Chelsea was the back 5 failing to find our wide men or forwards. If we **** around with it at the back we will get mullered again, BUT if we can find an out ball we can hurt anybody.

And Muric is far more adept at finding that "out ball" which is why most people favour him atm.

HahaYeah · Post by **HahaYeah** » Sat Oct 21, 2023 2:38 pm

Quietly confident

DCWat · Post by **DCWat** » Sat Oct 21, 2023 2:38 pm

summitclaret wrote: ↑
Sat Oct 21, 2023 2:31 pm
He doesn't tackle.

Not sure I’d go that far.

I’m not sure that he’s quite agile enough to manipulate his positioning at close quarters, which I think you need as proper ball winner. Get him driving with the ball and I see a different animal.

willsclarets · Post by **willsclarets** » Sat Oct 21, 2023 2:38 pm

10-9, we're gonna win 10-9, we're gonna win 10-9 etc etc might be a good chant for today

Longsider · Post by **Longsider** » Sat Oct 21, 2023 2:39 pm

Definitely btts in this one

bumba · Post by **bumba** » Sat Oct 21, 2023 2:39 pm

Need a massive game from Tresor, him and Odabert very lucky to keep there places with the amount of talent we have on the bench.
Time to deliver UTC

gawthorpe_view · Post by **gawthorpe_view** » Sat Oct 21, 2023 2:40 pm

Obviously gonna test Brentford's 'dodgy 'keeper' from the off.

Tribesmen · Post by **Tribesmen** » Sat Oct 21, 2023 2:42 pm

Afternoon all from a dry but chilli day here in Galway , very much looking forward to this game as i think we have a real chance to get something out of it .

bumba · Post by **bumba** » Sat Oct 21, 2023 2:42 pm

gawthorpe_view wrote: ↑
Sat Oct 21, 2023 2:40 pm
Obviously gonna test Brentford's 'dodgy 'keeper' from the off.

Let's hope we get a goal or two before they test our dodgy keeper