Kompany: time to go

Cooclaret · Post by **Cooclaret** » Sat Oct 28, 2023 5:01 pm

N O T G O O D E N O U G H

N O T P R A G M A T I C E N O U G H

N O T R E A D Y F O R T H E P R E M I E R L E A G U E

taio · Post by **taio** » Sat Oct 28, 2023 5:02 pm

NOITISN'T

ALP · Post by **ALP** » Sat Oct 28, 2023 5:02 pm

And then what?

Give your head a wobble, for goodness sake..............

Newcastleclaret93 · Post by **Newcastleclaret93** » Sat Oct 28, 2023 5:02 pm

Perhaps a game or to early. But your right I suspect he’s on his last lifeline

Spiral · Post by **Spiral** » Sat Oct 28, 2023 5:03 pm

N O P E

willsclarets · Post by **willsclarets** » Sat Oct 28, 2023 5:03 pm

We've been awful. But giving a manager who got over 100 points in the championship 100 Mill to spend then firing him (thus setting his vision and journey in flames) after 10 games is daft.

pureclaret · Post by **pureclaret** » Sat Oct 28, 2023 5:03 pm

Why should he go ? and if he did who would come in?

Burnley Ace · Post by **Burnley Ace** » Sat Oct 28, 2023 5:04 pm

Billie Wilder is free.

GodIsADeeJay81 · Post by **GodIsADeeJay81** » Sat Oct 28, 2023 5:04 pm

He needs to sort the defence out
He needs to explain why Trafford is undroppable

He needs to sort the soft underbelly we seemingly have

Newcastleclaret93 · Post by **Newcastleclaret93** » Sat Oct 28, 2023 5:04 pm

pureclaret wrote: ↑
Sat Oct 28, 2023 5:03 pm
Why should he go ? and if he did who would come in?

Plenty of good managers out there.

VK isn’t the saviour many had him out to be

Cooclaret · Post by **Cooclaret** » Sat Oct 28, 2023 5:05 pm

ALP wrote: ↑
Sat Oct 28, 2023 5:02 pm
And then what?

Give your head a wobble, for goodness sake..............

It’s wobbled, at this point I think Trafford was a favour signing to Man City to help them with FFP!

He might be a great manager in time, but he’s not ready for this club, or this league, at the moment.

expoultryboy · Post by **expoultryboy** » Sat Oct 28, 2023 5:05 pm

Stupid reaction

Aclaret · Post by **Aclaret** » Sat Oct 28, 2023 5:05 pm

Cooclaret wrote: ↑
Sat Oct 28, 2023 5:01 pm
N O T G O O D E N O U G H

N O T P R A G M A T I C E N O U G H

N O T R E A D Y F O R T H E P R E M I E R L E A G U E

..looks like I'm having another eye test in Specsavers !

beeholeclaret · Post by **beeholeclaret** » Sat Oct 28, 2023 5:05 pm

Hate these mass over reactions. So called supporters who have zero patience from a youthful playing squad and relatively inexperienced manager. Supporters provide support. Too many on line posters complaining and whingeing as if we have a divine right to be winning games in Premier League!

We are all disappointed and sick about results but we’ve got to support and try to be positive. People going on about players like Maatsen and Tella plus THB who were never our players is negative and destructive.

Woodleyclaret · Post by **Woodleyclaret** » Sat Oct 28, 2023 5:05 pm

Total nonsense he will succeed conned again with bxxxxx var

HahaYeah · Post by **HahaYeah** » Sat Oct 28, 2023 5:06 pm

L O L

Rileybobs · Post by **Rileybobs** » Sat Oct 28, 2023 5:06 pm

I don’t like short-termism, and certainly don’t want Vinny to go…yet. But those saying that he’s got the whole of this season and then the next are deluded if they think the majority of the fan base will accept another 5-6 of these performances. This is rank bad football and honestly an absolute dirge to watch.

bfcjg · Post by **bfcjg** » Sat Oct 28, 2023 5:06 pm

He needs to change his tactics ASAP, he needs to play players in their correct position, we need to stop all the sideways and backwards passing brief.

Newcastleclaret93 · Post by **Newcastleclaret93** » Sat Oct 28, 2023 5:06 pm

Woodleyclaret wrote: ↑
Sat Oct 28, 2023 5:05 pm
Total nonsense he will succeed conned again with bxxxxx var

Give over

VAR got the right decision we were just shite

Superjohnnyfrancis · Post by **Superjohnnyfrancis** » Sat Oct 28, 2023 5:06 pm

Got to agree the players look absolutely clueless, poorly setup with no tactics being employed, awful passing around the back and an undroppable calamity in the nets.

Massive clear out needed from top to bottom I’m afraid.

kentonclaret · Post by **kentonclaret** » Sat Oct 28, 2023 5:06 pm

12/1 FILL YER BOOTS!!!!

Cooclaret · Post by **Cooclaret** » Sat Oct 28, 2023 5:07 pm

beeholeclaret wrote: ↑
Sat Oct 28, 2023 5:05 pm
Hate these mass over reactions. So called supporters who have zero patience from a youthful playing squad and relatively inexperienced manager. Supporters provide support. Too many on line posters complaining and whingeing as if we have a divine right to be winning games in Premier League!

We are all disappointed and sick about results but we’ve got to support and try to be positive. People going on about players like Maatsen and Tella plus THB who were never our players is negative and destructive.

What makes this an overreaction in your eyes?

What makes you ‘calming’ reaction the correct reaction?

ksrclaret · Post by **ksrclaret** » Sat Oct 28, 2023 5:07 pm

He ain’t going to change tactics and these tactics are taking us down with a whimper

That’s the choice

bf2k · Post by **bf2k** » Sat Oct 28, 2023 5:08 pm

Woodleyclaret wrote: ↑
Sat Oct 28, 2023 5:05 pm
Total nonsense he will succeed conned again with bxxxxx var

I’m not in the sack him camp (yet) but we weren’t conned. We were sh*t…again.

Burnley1989 · Post by **Burnley1989** » Sat Oct 28, 2023 5:08 pm

**** off

Cooclaret · Post by **Cooclaret** » Sat Oct 28, 2023 5:09 pm

Newcastleclaret93 wrote: ↑
Sat Oct 28, 2023 5:08 pm
Should be reported and rightfully banned

Have done, we will see.

kentonclaret · Post by **kentonclaret** » Sat Oct 28, 2023 5:09 pm

Looking like 3 promoted clubs straight back down with every likelihood 3 relegated clubs coming back up. Ipswich the only obstacle it seems.

KefkaClaret · Post by **KefkaClaret** » Sat Oct 28, 2023 5:09 pm

I still believe he's the right man but I can completely understand this opinion.

ALP · Post by **ALP** » Sat Oct 28, 2023 5:10 pm

Cooclaret wrote: ↑
Sat Oct 28, 2023 5:05 pm
It’s wobbled, at this point I think Trafford was a favour signing to Man City to help them with FFP!

He might be a great manager in time, but he’s not ready for this club, or this league, at the moment.

They aren't good enough for this league, but getting shut of Kompany whilst it's still a massive learning curve isn't going to make the team / squad better.

I'm really not sure why people think we have a god given right to win every week. Brentford just tubbed Chelsea yet a lot were thinking we should have won that too. The way we are playing isn't good, so they have to look at that and learn, stop making the stupid mistakes and then they may scrape something.

Time has to be given.

jedi_master · Post by **jedi_master** » Sat Oct 28, 2023 5:10 pm

Would be as ridiculous a decision as sacking Dyche was. I disagreed with that (still do as I think he’d have kept us up and given money would have moved the squad on) but you could argue it turned out for the better as it gave us that fantastic season last year. We deserve everything we get if we get rid of Kompany after ploughing £100m into his project on all of these youngsters.

Yes, 99% likely were going down - so look forward to the fun of seeing a team with an average age of about 23 dominate that league and come back better prepared. This season will not be fun though, not one bit. I think he will sadly get sacked though as Pace has shown himself to be someone with limited patience, no reason to doubt that will change after investing £100m this summer.

Love to know who there is that people think changes the fortunes around here.

elwaclaret · Post by **elwaclaret** » Sat Oct 28, 2023 5:11 pm

Find it strange that posters look to cause outrage and reaction, and then complain when they get it.

KRBFC · Post by **KRBFC** » Sat Oct 28, 2023 5:11 pm

How are we not pragmatic enough? We didn’t get out of our own half all second half, we weren’t exactly gung ho.

3 of the back 4 likely wouldn’t be on the pitch if we had everyone fit, doesn’t help at all.

He’s a young manager learning his trade, he’s going to make mistakes and have setbacks, long term I have no doubt he’ll be more than good enough for this league.

Terrier · Post by **Terrier** » Sat Oct 28, 2023 5:12 pm

We need to keep with Kompany and his plan,.
The prem is getting harder every season and we are not getting a billionaire anytime soon , we may drop this season but will be stronger in the long run.
P.s. I have just read clive holts book and what dyche had to put up with makes him even better in my eyes but even he got plenty of stick on here!!

Newcastleclaret93 · Post by **Newcastleclaret93** » Sat Oct 28, 2023 5:12 pm

ALP wrote: ↑
Sat Oct 28, 2023 5:10 pm
They aren't good enough for this league, but getting shut of Kompany whilst it's still a massive learning curve isn't going to make the team / squad better.

I'm really not sure why people think we have a god given right to win every week. Brentford just tubbed Chelsea yet a lot were thinking we should have won that too. The way we are playing isn't good, so they have to look at that and learn, stop making the stupid mistakes and then they may scrape something.

Time has to be given.

Has anyone suggested we should be winning every week?

I would settle for a bit of fight and some kind of competitiveness. Bournemouth won’t have an easier game this season.

ksrclaret · Post by **ksrclaret** » Sat Oct 28, 2023 5:13 pm

roperclaret wrote: ↑
Sat Oct 28, 2023 5:07 pm
H O W D O E S I T F E E L T O B E A N A B S O L U T E B E L L E N D ?

Disgusting post

Look in the mirror

Spijed · Post by **Spijed** » Sat Oct 28, 2023 5:13 pm

VK needs some experience in the coaching staff.

fidelcastro · Post by **fidelcastro** » Sat Oct 28, 2023 5:13 pm

KRBFC wrote: ↑
Sat Oct 28, 2023 5:11 pm
He’s a young manager learning his trade, he’s going to make mistakes and have setbacks, long term I have no doubt he’ll be more than good enough for this league.

Based on what?

brexit · Post by **brexit** » Sat Oct 28, 2023 5:13 pm

Again Jessie marsch is available

IanMcL · Post by **IanMcL** » Sat Oct 28, 2023 5:14 pm

Realism is what is required. Experience is needed to guide the talent or he will burn them up and they will all be worthless.

Burnley1989 · Post by **Burnley1989** » Sat Oct 28, 2023 5:14 pm

We came up too early, I think giving up on a top manager like ours manager after 10 games… you should be ashamed, I would put good money on the fact you’ll have never worked in a managerial position in your life.

Hero to zero in 1/4 of a season, pathetic fans

Stayingup · Post by **Stayingup** » Sat Oct 28, 2023 5:14 pm

Well Derbys record is looking shaky. VK will be given more time.

Newcastleclaret93 · Post by **Newcastleclaret93** » Sat Oct 28, 2023 5:14 pm

jedi_master wrote: ↑
Sat Oct 28, 2023 5:10 pm
Would be as ridiculous a decision as sacking Dyche was. I disagreed with that (still do as I think he’d have kept us up and given money would have moved the squad on) but you could argue it turned out for the better as it gave us that fantastic season last year. We deserve everything we get if we get rid of Kompany after ploughing £100m into his project on all of these youngsters.

Yes, 99% likely were going down - so look forward to the fun of seeing a team with an average age of about 23 dominate that league and come back better prepared. This season will not be fun though, not one bit. I think he will sadly get sacked though as Pace has shown himself to be someone with limited patience, no reason to doubt that will change after investing £100m this summer.

Love to know who there is that people think changes the fortunes around here.

A few decent managers out there, right now we need someone that’s going to stop the goals going in our net. We might stand half a chance of staying up.

Conceding two a game and your a certain relegation team

KRBFC · Post by **KRBFC** » Sat Oct 28, 2023 5:14 pm

ksrclaret wrote: ↑
Sat Oct 28, 2023 5:07 pm
He ain’t going to change tactics and these tactics are taking us down with a whimper

That’s the choice

What game are you watching? He did change it, he brought in a more solid 3 in midfield and put Zeki at striker. He has quite clearly changed tactics which I actually think has done more harm than good, I wish we just deployed the same tactics as last season.

ALP · Post by **ALP** » Sat Oct 28, 2023 5:14 pm

Newcastleclaret93 wrote: ↑
Sat Oct 28, 2023 5:12 pm
Has anyone suggested we should be winning every week?

I would settle for a bit of fight and some kind of competitiveness. Bournemouth won’t have an easier game this season.

Given the mass hysteria on here following every defeat, I reckon the answer is yes.

kentonclaret · Post by **kentonclaret** » Sat Oct 28, 2023 5:15 pm

Cannot see any other manager working miracles with an assortment of players signed from the lower Belgian leagues by Kompany. Squad lacks balance and any defensive solidity appearing too lightweight for the PL.

Walkerpool · Post by **Walkerpool** » Sat Oct 28, 2023 5:15 pm

I don't think VK should go but why he's destroyed the team spirit from last season I'll never understand.

Newcastleclaret93 · Post by **Newcastleclaret93** » Sat Oct 28, 2023 5:15 pm

Burnley1989 wrote: ↑
Sat Oct 28, 2023 5:14 pm
We came up too early, I think giving up on a top manager like ours manager after 10 games… you should be ashamed, I would put good money on the fact you’ll have never worked in a managerial position in your life.

Hero to zero in 1/4 of a season, pathetic fans

Give over he’s just another Frank Lampard

ksrclaret · Post by **ksrclaret** » Sat Oct 28, 2023 5:15 pm

KRBFC wrote: ↑
Sat Oct 28, 2023 5:14 pm
What game are you watching? He did change it, he brought in a more solid 3 in midfield and put Zeki at striker. He has quite clearly changed tactics which I actually think has done more harm than good, I wish we just deployed the same tactics as last season.

Did we attempt to play passing football from the back with incapable players?

Yes.

That will take us down

Jakubclaret · Post by **Jakubclaret** » Sat Oct 28, 2023 5:16 pm

bf2k wrote: ↑
Sat Oct 28, 2023 5:08 pm
I’m not in the sack him camp (yet) but we weren’t conned. We were sh*t…again.

Spot on, but it's completely predictable some will look to blame anything but our own performance.

Newcastleclaret93 · Post by **Newcastleclaret93** » Sat Oct 28, 2023 5:16 pm

ALP wrote: ↑
Sat Oct 28, 2023 5:14 pm
Given the mass hysteria on here following every defeat, I reckon the answer is yes.

The hysteria isn’t because of the loss. It’s because of the way we are losing. We are getting smashed every week