Midfield

[brexit]

We seem to have a long term problem with our midfield players.
Would I be correct in assuming that cullen/cork/brownhill/massengo are classed as defensive midfielders - shielding the defense?
We have multiple wingers of various talents, but don't seem to be able to a cross into the box - we seem to want to walk it in
Are jbg/berge classed as attacking midfielders?
Does this leave ramsay as our only genuine ball playing central midfielder?
I ask because dycheball suited bypassing the midfield and he understood how to mitigate for the lack of genuine creative midfielder (post defour)
The question i suppose is given what we have got in terms of a team do we change our style of play and go longer or does that still man we end up losing possession but further up the field. Or would some form of counterattacking mentality suit the team?

[BleedingClaret]

We seem to have a long term problem with our midfield players.
Would I be correct in assuming that cullen/cork/brownhill/massengo are classed as defensive midfielders - shielding the defense?
We have multiple wingers of various talents, but don't seem to be able to a cross into the box - we seem to want to walk it in
Are jbg/berge classed as attacking midfielders?
Does this leave ramsay as our only genuine ball playing central midfielder?
I ask because dycheball suited bypassing the midfield and he understood how to mitigate for the lack of genuine creative midfielder (post defour)
The question i suppose is given what we have got in terms of a team do we change our style of play and go longer or does that still man we end up losing possession but further up the field. Or would some form of counterattacking mentality suit the team?

I noticed that Bournemouth Ball did that too on Saturday
We tried to pass out from the back whereas when they took it off us they played, quickly, directly into players that were sat between our midfield and defence.
I noticed on 1 occasion they had 6 players on our back four, two darted past our line of 4 defenders who were all static and didn't react to the line break, cos I assume they all felt like they had their man. the ball wasn't played that time, but our midfield was frequently by passed anyway with a quick ball to a player that was playing in their equivalent position to where zaroury and Koleosho were for us, then all their team burst forward to support the attack.
We we're attempting to play 10 passes to try and get the ball to our wingers, we mostly lost it at best at or before pass 5.
Our forward midfield (JBG?) including wingers were mostly unsupplied
Surely we need (MURIC) to play over the high press to our wide men or to our number 10 to put pressure on the numbers that teams are committing to that press and also play some balls into the CF as we did at Brentford with Foster but we left him Isolated as we did with Amdouni at Bournemoth so get men in and around their defence quickly.
For me it has to be Foster up top (I know he was ill on saturday) or Jay Rod as replacement they're our only 2 real CF's
Berge in behind who has to push up to Foster and win the headers on for him and ideally Koleosho & Brun Larsen either receive some quick ball when they come deep or some balls to chase into the channels & when the ball goes long centrally they should be running towards the corners of the box too for flick ons or balls over the top, Tellaesque.
We've got to mix it up, The opposition managers have noted that we have a set way of playing, that we don't change it game to game, just the Personnel, that we don't adapt mid game, It's a 'Framework' but whereas Dyche's was based on defensive solidity, this is high risk, you need to have the better players to play through a high man for man press, we don't so we have to play over it cos we now don't have the slow ageing Barnes (At prem Level) & Wood, We have youth with pace and energy, we have to play over the press and force it to be abandoned or stretched and then we'll find more time and space to play through, IMO, and breathe...

[vinrogue]

Midfield? Do you mean a 3 man midfield, a 5 man midfield, a 2 man midfield? Last season with Beyer and Ekdal plus Muric we could have a back 3 plus the wing backs then pushed forward. That system worked with those players and in the Championship. This season I have yet to fathom our 4 3 3....4 2 3 1 or??

[jojomk1]

We don't have a midfield
Certainly not a competitive one for this level with height, pace, strength and ball winning/retention attributes
Therein lies our biggest problem

[summitclaret]

Hope the Westwood haters now realise what a good cm player he was for us.

[Carlos the Great]

Adrian Randall .. now he was the midfield maestro

[dougcollins]

Were there Westwood Haters?

I thought that was reserved for Hendrick.

[Taffy on the wing]

We seem to have a long term problem with our midfield players.
Would I be correct in assuming that cullen/cork/brownhill/massengo are classed as defensive midfielders - shielding the defense?
We have multiple wingers of various talents, but don't seem to be able to a cross into the box - we seem to want to walk it in
Are jbg/berge classed as attacking midfielders?
Does this leave ramsay as our only genuine ball playing central midfielder?
I ask because dycheball suited bypassing the midfield and he understood how to mitigate for the lack of genuine creative midfielder (post defour)
The question i suppose is given what we have got in terms of a team do we change our style of play and go longer or does that still man we end up losing possession but further up the field. Or would some form of counterattacking mentality suit the team?

Not much point crossing into the box.......all our players are midgets!

[bfcjg]

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What does it matter as long as they are good with the ball. Sign em on.

[Funkydrummer]

Unknown.jpeg.jpgWhat does it matter as long as they are good with the ball. Sign em on.

How far away are they ?

[jrgbfc]

Hope the Westwood haters now realise what a good cm player he was for us.

But if you dropped Westwood into our current setup he'd look awful as well.

[Zenwisdom]

We don’t score enough goals from midfield
Cullen 1 goal 52 appearances out muscled most games and that’s experienced players

[Sleeping Cat]

The system and tactics are exposing the midfield.