Everton match thread

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Re: Everton match thread

Post by ksrclaret » Wed Nov 01, 2023 9:06 pm

I'll just be intrigued to see how we fare without Cullen on Sat when he's suspended.

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Re: Everton match thread

Post by FCBurnley » Wed Nov 01, 2023 9:06 pm

Everton just hitting hit long against a non existent defense Easy for Sean. VK looking more and more despondent. Think he is realizing he has screwed up

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Re: Everton match thread

Post by Barry_Chuckle » Wed Nov 01, 2023 9:06 pm

His name was Phil Malley

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Re: Everton match thread

Post by Vino blanco » Wed Nov 01, 2023 9:06 pm

Also, it's not the first it has happened. Against Spurs didn't we have Vitihno marking someone like Dier at the backpost leading to to a simple head back across goal for an easy tap in?

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Re: Everton match thread

Post by CoolClaret » Wed Nov 01, 2023 9:06 pm

burnleymik wrote:
Wed Nov 01, 2023 9:05 pm
I know we zonal mark, but we know what the Everton tactic would be from set pieces. It's insane to have Cullen being the man to cover that back stick area when we know exactly what the plan is.
Zonal marking is just crap. You have to back your best headers against theirs.

The only people that should be in ‘zone’ are front/back post or someone outside the area

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Re: Everton match thread

Post by jojomk1 » Wed Nov 01, 2023 9:06 pm

Jacob Rees Dogg wrote:
Wed Nov 01, 2023 9:04 pm
Too small, too light, too slow, too weak.
The Prem is brutal, sadly he is not up to it.
If he is suspended for Sat he shouldn't be on the pitch

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Re: Everton match thread

Post by burnleymik » Wed Nov 01, 2023 9:07 pm

Tresor has been poor all round. He just doesn't look like he has the fight in him that we are going to need. His set pieces have been poor too.

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Re: Everton match thread

Post by boatshed bill » Wed Nov 01, 2023 9:07 pm

FCBurnley wrote:
Wed Nov 01, 2023 9:06 pm
Everton just hitting hit long against a non existent defense Easy for Sean. VK looking more and more despondent. Think he is realizing he has screwed up

Or maybe he's just missing his best 2 CBs

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Re: Everton match thread

Post by jedi_master » Wed Nov 01, 2023 9:07 pm

Amdouni and Zaroury coming on

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Re: Everton match thread

Post by jojomk1 » Wed Nov 01, 2023 9:08 pm

ksrclaret wrote:
Wed Nov 01, 2023 9:06 pm
I'll just be intrigued to see how we fare without Cullen on Sat when he's suspended.
Not sure we are going to miss him
One things for sure - Cork will still be on the bench
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Re: Everton match thread

Post by IanMcL » Wed Nov 01, 2023 9:08 pm

Can't help thinking that Redmond and Townsend would have made a difference.
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Re: Everton match thread

Post by warksclaret » Wed Nov 01, 2023 9:09 pm

You cant blame Cullen for being outjumped, but the set piece coach needs to have a proper talking too, and VK needs one too from Pace. Even Alan will know Tarks is Everton's main weapon at set pieces

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Re: Everton match thread

Post by fidelcastro » Wed Nov 01, 2023 9:09 pm

No confidence, no leadership, no identity.

Kompany can go for me.

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Re: Everton match thread

Post by TommyPicks » Wed Nov 01, 2023 9:09 pm

spt_claret wrote:
Wed Nov 01, 2023 9:04 pm
Was worried about this in the summer and said it a couple times now he reminds me of David Jones just with a bit more pressing. Great tempo setting midfielder who can pull strings in the championship, hugely struggles to step up and neutered in the Prem.
I know what you mean. I feel like he needs/thinks he has an extra second or two on the ball in tight areas, and the opposition at this level are just that bit quicker

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Re: Everton match thread

Post by claretgimmer » Wed Nov 01, 2023 9:09 pm

Are some of our players on tranquilisers they don`t seem to have the ability to understand the word urgency

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Re: Everton match thread

Post by Goalposts » Wed Nov 01, 2023 9:09 pm

Should have been 3

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Re: Everton match thread

Post by CoolClaret » Wed Nov 01, 2023 9:09 pm

One of the worst centre half performances I’ve seen for us. DCL has absolutely battered both of them

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Re: Everton match thread

Post by spt_claret » Wed Nov 01, 2023 9:10 pm

Zonal marking is great when you're the bully team. You need bigger, faster, more experienced/naturally savvy lads for it to work. Kompany seems like he's a bit stuck in the City mindset honestly, we were the bullies most of the time last year, less so this year.
Murger wrote:
Wed Nov 01, 2023 9:05 pm
Don’t understand the managers reluctance to use Cork. Cullen is a waste of space atm.
Cork would be run ragged by everyone in this setup he hasn't the legs for anything other than a static sitting DM with two runners just in front. I can't understand not trying Massengo personally.

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Re: Everton match thread

Post by Newcastleclaret93 » Wed Nov 01, 2023 9:10 pm

This really is men Vs boys unfortunately.

Calvert Lewin really is a top player when fit

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Re: Everton match thread

Post by Darthlaw » Wed Nov 01, 2023 9:10 pm

Our two CB's are incredibly weak. Emile Heskey levels of 'how is a big man so weak'

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Re: Everton match thread

Post by fidelcastro » Wed Nov 01, 2023 9:10 pm

ksrclaret wrote:
Wed Nov 01, 2023 9:06 pm
I'll just be intrigued to see how we fare without Cullen on Sat when he's suspended.
If we're any worse, then we really do have problems.

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Re: Everton match thread

Post by ksrclaret » Wed Nov 01, 2023 9:10 pm

CoolClaret wrote:
Wed Nov 01, 2023 9:09 pm
One of the worst centre half performances I’ve seen for us. DCL has absolutely battered both of them
Both ought to be nowhere near a PL team.

Desperate pair.

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Re: Everton match thread

Post by IanMcL » Wed Nov 01, 2023 9:10 pm

That was close! O'Shea to save the day

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Re: Everton match thread

Post by jojomk1 » Wed Nov 01, 2023 9:10 pm

Larsen certainly got lost as the game went on

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Re: Everton match thread

Post by RVclaret » Wed Nov 01, 2023 9:10 pm

Thought Tresor has done okay. Not sure why folk seem to be digging him out. Redmond was more wasteful than him tonight. Would still like to see him on the left.

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Re: Everton match thread

Post by Greekclaret » Wed Nov 01, 2023 9:11 pm

DCL absolutely murdering both CB’s at the same time

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Re: Everton match thread

Post by jedi_master » Wed Nov 01, 2023 9:11 pm

O’Shea remedies his horrific error

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Re: Everton match thread

Post by Darthlaw » Wed Nov 01, 2023 9:11 pm

JBL subbed off as punishment for having the audacity to look like a decent player.
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Re: Everton match thread

Post by ClaretLoup » Wed Nov 01, 2023 9:11 pm

Yep Redmond and Townsend. If we are going to run a kindergarten for wingers at least have some teachers on hand to learn from.
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Re: Everton match thread

Post by IanMcL » Wed Nov 01, 2023 9:11 pm

Amdouni for Rodriguez
Zaroury for Redmond
Oderbert for Bruun Larsen

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Re: Everton match thread

Post by expoultryboy » Wed Nov 01, 2023 9:11 pm

3 subs and tresor stays on

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Re: Everton match thread

Post by RVclaret » Wed Nov 01, 2023 9:12 pm

DCL is a top player and pretty much the perfect Sean Dyche striker.

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Re: Everton match thread

Post by Florian » Wed Nov 01, 2023 9:12 pm

expoultryboy wrote:
Wed Nov 01, 2023 9:11 pm
3 subs and tresor stays on
Tresors been one of our better players

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Re: Everton match thread

Post by Carlos the Great » Wed Nov 01, 2023 9:12 pm

There has been lot of positives from this side .. but highlighted we are naive in defence even with Muric in nets

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Re: Everton match thread

Post by ClaretAL » Wed Nov 01, 2023 9:12 pm

The first 11 done mikes better than we have seen lately and absolutely more intent and forward passing and movement

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Re: Everton match thread

Post by CoolClaret » Wed Nov 01, 2023 9:12 pm

spt_claret wrote:
Wed Nov 01, 2023 9:10 pm
Zonal marking is great when you're the bully team. You need bigger, faster, more experienced/naturally savvy lads for it to work. Kompany seems like he's a bit stuck in the City mindset honestly, we were the bullies most of the time last year, less so this year.


Cork would be run ragged by everyone in this setup he hasn't the legs for anything other than a static sitting DM with two runners just in front. I can't understand not trying Massengo personally.

Still never been a fan of it. Easy way to get someone to run on to a header challenged only by static defenders.

Agreed, I’d like to see Massengo in there with Berge

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Re: Everton match thread

Post by HahaYeah » Wed Nov 01, 2023 9:12 pm

Tresor is twinkletoed but too lightweight.

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Re: Everton match thread

Post by jojomk1 » Wed Nov 01, 2023 9:12 pm

spt_claret wrote:
Wed Nov 01, 2023 9:10 pm

Cork would be run ragged by everyone in this setup he hasn't the legs for anything other than a static sitting DM with two runners just in front.
Sounds like Cullen as well ;)

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Re: Everton match thread

Post by Boss Hogg » Wed Nov 01, 2023 9:12 pm

We’ve been appalling all over the pitch all season. Nothing improves from game to game. Not surprising at all. I expect a defeat very game. We are just so weak.

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Re: Everton match thread

Post by AGENT_CLARET » Wed Nov 01, 2023 9:12 pm

68 mins in and no shots on target ffs

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Re: Everton match thread

Post by IanMcL » Wed Nov 01, 2023 9:12 pm

Tresor has done some good work at times
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Re: Everton match thread

Post by spt_claret » Wed Nov 01, 2023 9:12 pm

RVclaret wrote:
Wed Nov 01, 2023 9:10 pm
Thought Tresor has done okay. Not sure why folk seem to be digging him out. Redmond was more wasteful than him tonight. Would still like to see him on the left.
Can't agree. Tresor had one bright moment but otherwise lost the ball a lot, Redmond or Larsen looked the best of a poor front four to me, Larsen was quieter than previous games, faded and patchy but not sure the lefts his best position.

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Re: Everton match thread

Post by Murger » Wed Nov 01, 2023 9:12 pm

spt_claret wrote:
Wed Nov 01, 2023 9:10 pm
Cork would be run ragged by everyone in this setup he hasn't the legs for anything other than a static sitting DM with two runners just in front. I can't understand not trying Massengo personally.
I just don’t believe Cork can’t play for an hour.

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Re: Everton match thread

Post by CoolClaret » Wed Nov 01, 2023 9:13 pm

ksrclaret wrote:
Wed Nov 01, 2023 9:10 pm
Both ought to be nowhere near a PL team.

Desperate pair.
Agreed. We’d be better with Caldwell and Carlisle

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Re: Everton match thread

Post by IanMcL » Wed Nov 01, 2023 9:13 pm

Big Beto on. God help us!

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Re: Everton match thread

Post by Jacko » Wed Nov 01, 2023 9:13 pm

spt_claret wrote:
Wed Nov 01, 2023 9:04 pm
Was worried about this in the summer and said it a couple times now he reminds me of David Jones just with a bit more pressing. Great tempo setting midfielder who can pull strings in the championship, hugely struggles to step up and neutered in the Prem.
Cullen hasn't got anywhere near the credit in the bank that David Jones accrued. He was great for us. And he wasn't short or weak, although far from speedy.
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Re: Everton match thread

Post by ClaretAL » Wed Nov 01, 2023 9:13 pm

I must be watching a different match to some on here

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Re: Everton match thread

Post by IanMcL » Wed Nov 01, 2023 9:13 pm

On balance, Everton are better than Salford
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Re: Everton match thread

Post by Pickles » Wed Nov 01, 2023 9:14 pm

Vitinho. Got to be the least Brazilian Brazilian we could've found. Wouldn't mind but he can't defend either. Less Copacabana, more Co-Op.
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Re: Everton match thread

Post by TonbridgeClaret » Wed Nov 01, 2023 9:14 pm

Florian wrote:
Wed Nov 01, 2023 9:12 pm
Tresors been one of our better players
Agreed

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