Clarets vs Palace

Pickles · Post by **Pickles** » Sat Nov 04, 2023 4:56 pm

Palace haven't attacked us all game and they've scored two goals and beaten us.

whiffa · Post by **whiffa** » Sat Nov 04, 2023 4:56 pm

The only frustration for me is we've spent all this money and we're worse than last year. Just have to remain hopeful these young lads come good in the next year or two.

FCBurnley · Post by **FCBurnley** » Sat Nov 04, 2023 4:56 pm

List our first 6 home games in top flight. Only team to do that. What a record to own. Maybe for ever

RVclaret · Post by **RVclaret** » Sat Nov 04, 2023 4:57 pm

The most typical Roy Hodgson 2-0 away win you’ll ever ever get.

Superjohnnyfrancis · Post by **Superjohnnyfrancis** » Sat Nov 04, 2023 4:57 pm

The defending is so so bad I just don’t get what Kompany does on the training ground. I am sure he doesn’t drill the defence now.

JimmyRobbo · Post by **JimmyRobbo** » Sat Nov 04, 2023 4:57 pm

ClaretOfMancunia wrote: ↑
Sat Nov 04, 2023 4:55 pm
O'Shea has been abysmal today.

Not been as poor as previous games on the whole but pretty damning.

Don't talk rubbish. He's beem OK. Mostly good but gave the 2nd away.

tally · Post by **tally** » Sat Nov 04, 2023 4:57 pm

Time to prepare for next year now
not wanting tp repeat myself but it does seem somehow inevitable

jojomk1 · Post by **jojomk1** » Sat Nov 04, 2023 4:57 pm

Taffy on the wing wrote: ↑
Sat Nov 04, 2023 4:56 pm
Booing at the final whistle ......pathetic!

After a record 6 home losses things will start to turn

warksclaret · Post by **warksclaret** » Sat Nov 04, 2023 4:58 pm

Sheff Utdpen

JimmyRobbo · Post by **JimmyRobbo** » Sat Nov 04, 2023 4:59 pm

whiffa wrote: ↑
Sat Nov 04, 2023 4:56 pm
The only frustration for me is we've spent all this money and we're worse than last year. Just have to remain hopeful these young lads come good in the next year or two.

Fair comment.
Don't forget that our better players were on loan or about to be obsolete with another year on their tyres.

If Beyer doesn't gift them that goal, who knows how it would have turned out.

ervi34 · Post by **ervi34** » Sat Nov 04, 2023 4:59 pm

Taffy on the wing wrote: ↑
Sat Nov 04, 2023 4:56 pm
Booing at the final whistle ......pathetic!

Why would that be pathetic? We are absolutely awful.

kentonclaret · Post by **kentonclaret** » Sat Nov 04, 2023 5:00 pm

Sheffield United score contentious penalty award by VAR to lead 2-1 rubbing salt in the wound.

SGr · Post by **SGr** » Sat Nov 04, 2023 5:00 pm

bf2k wrote: ↑
Sat Nov 04, 2023 4:56 pm
Shut up please!

Compelling

cockneyclaret · Post by **cockneyclaret** » Sat Nov 04, 2023 5:00 pm

Taffy on the wing wrote: ↑
Sat Nov 04, 2023 4:56 pm
Booing at the final whistle ......pathetic!

Why is it pathetic?
Everyone that paid to watch is entitled to boo, clap, cheer or sit in silence..
I take it your jumping around whistling and clapping the team after a stunning performance

SouthamptonClaret · Post by **SouthamptonClaret** » Sat Nov 04, 2023 5:00 pm

Well we didn't concede 3.

ClaretOfMancunia · Post by **ClaretOfMancunia** » Sat Nov 04, 2023 5:01 pm

JimmyRobbo wrote: ↑
Sat Nov 04, 2023 4:57 pm
Don't talk rubbish. He's beem OK. Mostly good but gave the 2nd away.

Not rubbish, he's looked very poor. THB leagues ahead of him.

He's given the ball away on half a dozen occasions absolutely killing any forward momentum, one occasion leading to their second goal.

Ampth7 · Post by **Ampth7** » Sat Nov 04, 2023 5:01 pm

Well, we did play better today, although Palace obviously came to sit back, soak up pressure and counter which allowed us plenty of the ball.
Sadly, we’re just not doing enough going forward and we are very poor at the back……this is not a good combination as obvious as that sounds!

CoolClaret · Post by **CoolClaret** » Sat Nov 04, 2023 5:01 pm

The game certainly isn’t on Trafford not suggesting that at all before someone fires me down

But can someone tell me on save he’s made that’s kept us in a game this year? A save that you think ‘yep top class’

A save that Nick Pope or Heaton has made in the past to keep us alive. Anything

Strangest transfer of all time for us.

mdd2 · Post by **mdd2** » Sat Nov 04, 2023 5:02 pm

Lost with 67% possession 17 shots 5 on target 12 corners
Palace 33% possession 4 shots 3 on target 1 corner
Yet again possession no end product but at least we hit the target 5 times
This is a game we needed to win to allow us a chance to stay up
palace is a team we need to get pints from

SussexDon1inIreland · Post by **SussexDon1inIreland** » Sat Nov 04, 2023 5:02 pm

I prefer the Championship anyway

warksclaret · Post by **warksclaret** » Sat Nov 04, 2023 5:02 pm

JimmyRobbo wrote: ↑
Sat Nov 04, 2023 4:59 pm
Fair comment.
Don't forget that our better players were on loan or about to be obsolete with another year on their tyres.

If Beyer doesn't gift them that goal, who knows how it would have turned out.

Sadly Robbo its all academic, because we cant score

spt_claret · Post by **spt_claret** » Sat Nov 04, 2023 5:03 pm

SGr wrote: ↑
Sat Nov 04, 2023 4:55 pm
Only reason he should keep his job after that is that he’s forced us into such a corner with those signings (who tf is getting a win out of them) that we don’t have an alternative

£100m spend
Sacked off the scouts for his analytics firm
We've bet the ranch on Vincent Kompany 100%. No alternative option now.

ElectroClaret · Post by **ElectroClaret** » Sat Nov 04, 2023 5:03 pm

SussexDon1inIreland wrote: ↑
Sat Nov 04, 2023 5:02 pm
I prefer the Championship anyway

Yep, well you're gonna get the chance.

ervi34 · Post by **ervi34** » Sat Nov 04, 2023 5:03 pm

JimmyRobbo wrote: ↑
Sat Nov 04, 2023 4:59 pm
Fair comment.
Don't forget that our better players were on loan or about to be obsolete with another year on their tyres.

If Beyer doesn't gift them that goal, who knows how it would have turned out.

They wouldn't have parked the bus and someone else would have gifted them a goal.

kentonclaret · Post by **kentonclaret** » Sat Nov 04, 2023 5:03 pm

JimmyRobbo wrote: ↑
Sat Nov 04, 2023 4:59 pm
Fair comment.
Don't forget that our better players were on loan or about to be obsolete with another year on their tyres.

If Beyer doesn't gift them that goal, who knows how it would have turned out.

Absolutely that.

Compare our squad last season to Leeds and Leicester this who have retained far more of their PL squad players not needing loads of loan signings who may (or may not) sign permanently.

boatshed bill · Post by **boatshed bill** » Sat Nov 04, 2023 5:05 pm

Ampth7 wrote: ↑
Sat Nov 04, 2023 5:01 pm
Well, we did play better today, although Palace obviously came to sit back, soak up pressure and counter which allowed us plenty of the ball.
Sadly, we’re just not doing enough going forward and we are very poor at the back……this is not a good combination as obvious as that sounds!

We just can't score, Foster excepted.
However (from commentary) it seems that we put maximum effort in, dispelling the somewhat naughty suggestions that VK has lost the dressing room and that players are not trying.
Perhaps those on here who are loving this poor run would do better keeping their emotions in check.

Ampth7 · Post by **Ampth7** » Sat Nov 04, 2023 5:06 pm

boatshed bill wrote: ↑
Sat Nov 04, 2023 5:05 pm
We just can't score, Foster excepted.
However (from commentary) it seems that we put maximum effort in, dispelling the somewhat naughty suggestions that VK has lost the dressing room and that players are not trying.
Perhaps those on here who are loving this poor run would do better keeping their emotions in check.

No doubting the effort today.

burnleymik · Post by **burnleymik** » Sat Nov 04, 2023 5:08 pm

Contrary to everything on here. I thought we did okay today. We created chances and looked the better team. It just didn't happen for us.

Beyer made a difference and it's a shame that mistake cost us.

SussexDon1inIreland · Post by **SussexDon1inIreland** » Sat Nov 04, 2023 5:09 pm

The table doesn't lie - we have only 4 points after 11 games. Sorry but that's relegation form.
Hope the Board don't panic and give VK another chance next season.

SGr · Post by **SGr** » Sat Nov 04, 2023 5:11 pm

People calling this an improved performance are living in a world of their own.

Could play until the middle of next week and wouldn’t score.

Superjohnnyfrancis · Post by **Superjohnnyfrancis** » Sat Nov 04, 2023 5:13 pm

It was better but the build up play is like watching deep sea divers walking on the bottom of the ocean, for gods sake guys show some urgency in your play!

burnleymik · Post by **burnleymik** » Sat Nov 04, 2023 5:13 pm

SGr wrote: ↑
Sat Nov 04, 2023 5:11 pm
People calling this an improved performance are living in a world of their own.

Could play until the middle of next week and wouldn’t score.

You didn't watch it, did you?

Superjohnnyfrancis · Post by **Superjohnnyfrancis** » Sat Nov 04, 2023 5:15 pm

Jay Rod is finished at this level should have kept Barnes instead. Big mistake letting him go now we don’t have anyone else to play up top.

SGr · Post by **SGr** » Sat Nov 04, 2023 5:16 pm

burnleymik wrote: ↑
Sat Nov 04, 2023 5:13 pm
You didn't watch it, did you?

What a goal.

Boss Hogg · Post by **Boss Hogg** » Sat Nov 04, 2023 5:17 pm

We are absolutely crap and have been all season. Clueless.

boatshed bill · Post by **boatshed bill** » Sat Nov 04, 2023 5:19 pm

Superjohnnyfrancis wrote: ↑
Sat Nov 04, 2023 5:15 pm
Jay Rod is finished at this level should have kept Barnes instead. Big mistake letting him go now we don’t have anyone else to play up top.

Wasn't the fact that Barnes wanted 2 years the reason we let him go?

spt_claret · Post by **spt_claret** » Sat Nov 04, 2023 5:19 pm

RVclaret wrote: ↑
Sat Nov 04, 2023 3:54 pm
Can’t remember many (any) that led to such a big chance like that. He was flawless in those situations.

Have to wonder why. Is it the pace/pressure of the league or trust in teammates to receive the ball?

JimmyRobbo · Post by **JimmyRobbo** » Sat Nov 04, 2023 5:21 pm

ClaretOfMancunia wrote: ↑
Sat Nov 04, 2023 5:01 pm
Not rubbish, he's looked very poor. THB leagues ahead of him.

He's given the ball away on half a dozen occasions absolutely killing any forward momentum, one occasion leading to their second goal.

Nah. Which level did you play at? He was OK.

You can't criticise hm too heavily today. He gave them the 2nd goal but that's just a desperation clearance when chasing the game with seconds left.

Superjohnnyfrancis · Post by **Superjohnnyfrancis** » Sat Nov 04, 2023 5:21 pm

boatshed bill wrote: ↑
Sat Nov 04, 2023 5:19 pm
Wasn't the fact that Barnes wanted 2 years the reason we let him go?

I’d have given two years , been a great servant alas that ship has sailed but I think if he comes on at 70 minutes today we would have at least drawn the game and not just let them beat us so easily. No fight left in this bunch.

CoolClaret · Post by **CoolClaret** » Sat Nov 04, 2023 5:22 pm

O’Shea was fine today - looked much better in fact.

jojomk1 · Post by **jojomk1** » Sat Nov 04, 2023 5:23 pm

Not sure Barnes even starts for Norwich at the mo

JimmyRobbo · Post by **JimmyRobbo** » Sat Nov 04, 2023 5:24 pm

SGr wrote: ↑
Sat Nov 04, 2023 5:11 pm
People calling this an improved performance are living in a world of their own.

Could play until the middle of next week and wouldn’t score.

Sadly, you're right that we didn't look like scoring even if we were still playing now.

We were definitely better, though. We clearly need Beyer and Foster playing every game to stand a chance.

Newcastleclaret93 · Post by **Newcastleclaret93** » Sat Nov 04, 2023 5:24 pm

jojomk1 wrote: ↑
Sat Nov 04, 2023 5:23 pm
Not sure Barnes even starts for Norwich at the mo

Started every game until injury

Penwortham_Claret · Post by **Penwortham_Claret** » Sat Nov 04, 2023 5:25 pm

CoolClaret wrote: ↑
Sat Nov 04, 2023 5:22 pm
O’Shea was fine today - looked much better in fact.

I am assuming that this is a poor attempt at fishing. O’Shea was terrible, his distribution is as bad as I’ve ever seen

boatshed bill · Post by **boatshed bill** » Sat Nov 04, 2023 5:25 pm

Newcastleclaret93 wrote: ↑
Sat Nov 04, 2023 5:24 pm
Started every game until injury

So he's not starting at present then

CoolClaret · Post by **CoolClaret** » Sat Nov 04, 2023 5:27 pm

Penwortham_Claret wrote: ↑
Sat Nov 04, 2023 5:25 pm
I am assuming that this is a poor attempt at fishing. O’Shea was terrible, his distribution is as bad as I’ve ever seen

I think terrible is harsh.

The second goal is one of them - we were chasing the game with 90 seconds left and he tried to keep it in play, we got stung.

He was better than his partner was today that’s for sure

FCBurnley · Post by **FCBurnley** » Sat Nov 04, 2023 5:30 pm

Amazing that that the Chairman has suddenly disappeared and is some how avoiding any criticism at all !

sjb · Post by **sjb** » Sat Nov 04, 2023 5:31 pm

CrosspoolClarets wrote: ↑
Sat Nov 04, 2023 4:56 pm
First team in 136 years to lose first six top flight games.

He was a good commentator until that stat…….

Home games

FCBurnley · Post by **FCBurnley** » Sat Nov 04, 2023 5:34 pm

Another assist for Twine and another goal for Mellon

Goalposts · Post by **Goalposts** » Sat Nov 04, 2023 5:34 pm

Facts

We lost to the worst team to visit the turf this year
We set a new record of the only premier league team to lose their first 6 home games.
We never looked like scoring despite domination. (It’s what you do with it that counts )
We never addressed the recruitment needed in the summer forward / centre half / centre mid

Probabilties

We will get better
We will get relegated
We may challenge derbys lowest points record.

Optimism

I am appreciating the philosophy of how we are trying to play - its going to take time
The players signed on the whole , if we have to sell may brake even , some will lose.

Negatives.

We keep making basic mistakes at a football level
Our set pieces are truly atrocious.

Final thought

Up the clarets
Burnley till i die
You cant have the highs without the lows
Time for a glass of wine

I wish all a good night , because the day was dissapointing..