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Saleable Assets
As Kompany likes to call them. See ‘ Mission to Burnley’.
All very well if they play and perform. But they aren’t and it isn’t happening.
So, we go down with ‘unsaleable liabilities’. We’ve paid around £12m for a number of individual players.
We will be selling at significant losses and they are too young and inexperienced to get us back up.
The manager has created a financial meltdown for next summer. And his position is so strong the board can’t do anything about it.
All very well if they play and perform. But they aren’t and it isn’t happening.
So, we go down with ‘unsaleable liabilities’. We’ve paid around £12m for a number of individual players.
We will be selling at significant losses and they are too young and inexperienced to get us back up.
The manager has created a financial meltdown for next summer. And his position is so strong the board can’t do anything about it.
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Don’t worry - our £100m pound player will step it up before long.
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We’ve Koleosho who is fast but has zero end product maybe someone will pay for him. Or maybe someone will be daft like us and pay for Trafford.
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The most boggling thing is we build up the value of Zaroury and then just don't play him so it plumments.
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Manuel Benson is going to be the £100m player after he comes back from injury and single-handedly saves us from relegation!!StayingDown4Ever wrote: ↑Sat Nov 04, 2023 6:05 pmDon’t worry - our £100m pound player will step it up before long.
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January window will be massive.
We need several moved out either perm transfer or loan. And three in with quality and experience for CM, CH and CF cover.
In my view of course.
We need several moved out either perm transfer or loan. And three in with quality and experience for CM, CH and CF cover.
In my view of course.
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All of them dwarfed by what we'd get for a full box of Twix.
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Doubt we’d lose money on any of them tbh
Just because you can’t see their value, doesn’t mean the experts don’t
There’s room for improvement/growth for pretty much all of them
Even Trafford will be worth what we paid, see Ramsdale at Arsenal, 2 consecutive relegations and ended up at Arsenal
Just because you can’t see their value, doesn’t mean the experts don’t
There’s room for improvement/growth for pretty much all of them
Even Trafford will be worth what we paid, see Ramsdale at Arsenal, 2 consecutive relegations and ended up at Arsenal
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What's going on with Ramsey, is he injured?
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Not signing THB or Tella is the strangest decision.
One a leader that ok lacked a bit of pace could bloody pass a decent ball and liked to get stuck in.
The other well - our top goal scorer and best/joint best player of the season? Loved the club, loved the fans - where's the data analysis on that!
One a leader that ok lacked a bit of pace could bloody pass a decent ball and liked to get stuck in.
The other well - our top goal scorer and best/joint best player of the season? Loved the club, loved the fans - where's the data analysis on that!
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Tella - dossing in Germany/barely playing, we don’t even know if he wanted to come back hereCoolClaret wrote: ↑Sat Nov 04, 2023 7:04 pmNot signing THB or Tella is the strangest decision.
One a leader that ok lacked a bit of pace could bloody pass a decent ball and liked to get stuck in.
The other well - our top goal scorer and best/joint best player of the season? Loved the club, loved the fans - where's the data analysis on that!
THB - still in the championship, strange how no other PL club took him on loan
He was great for us but the next sensible step was the PL, not another season in the championship
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It’s basically pointless arguing with some on here.GodIsADeeJay81 wrote: ↑Sat Nov 04, 2023 6:59 pmDoubt we’d lose money on any of them tbh
Just because you can’t see their value, doesn’t mean the experts don’t
There’s room for improvement/growth for pretty much all of them
Even Trafford will be worth what we paid, see Ramsdale at Arsenal, 2 consecutive relegations and ended up at Arsenal
Koleosho in particular would already go for way more than we bought him for. Amdouni also. Foster would sell for way over £8m assuming he picks up where he left off. In good teams all these players would look excellent in the Prem, sadly they don’t have the quality all around them.
MixedKompany has absolutely no idea what he’s on about.
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Get both of them back in Jan - especially THB - unexplainable that we did not sign him.
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You’re making the same mistake our recruitment has done this summer - looking at the player and not how they fit the team.GodIsADeeJay81 wrote: ↑Sat Nov 04, 2023 7:08 pmTella - dossing in Germany/barely playing, we don’t even know if he wanted to come back here
THB - still in the championship, strange how no other PL club took him on loan
He was great for us but the next sensible step was the PL, not another season in the championship
Firstly on Tella - of course he did? Starting to get minutes for the team sat at the top of the Bundesliga
You could say the same thing re Belis about most of our signings ‘no other PL team wanted to sign them’.
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Koleosho definitely - but I wouldn’t want to sell him either.NewClaret wrote: ↑Sat Nov 04, 2023 7:12 pmIt’s basically pointless arguing with some on here.
Koleosho in particular would already go for way more than we bought him for. Amdouni also. Foster would sell for way over £8m assuming he picks up where he left off. In good teams all these players would look excellent in the Prem, sadly they don’t have the quality all around them.
MixedKompany has absolutely no idea what he’s on about.
Amdouni? Nah, shown nothing so far.
Foster of course but not much more.
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Tella - 45 mins out of the 900 mins available in the league this seasonCoolClaret wrote: ↑Sat Nov 04, 2023 7:16 pmYou’re making the same mistake our recruitment has done this summer - looking at the player and not how they fit the team.
Firstly on Tella - of course he did? Starting to get minutes for the team sat at the top of the Bundesliga
You could say the same thing re Belis about most of our signings ‘no other PL team wanted to sign them’.
THB - don’t deflect, he’s stayed in the championship for a reason
No other PL club took a punt on him, for whatever reason (probably cost), so he’s having another season in the championship
I thought he was great for us but other clubs don’t feel he’s worth the money
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Trafford - we wouldn’t get £19m so would lose money, and maybe a lot, but we don’t start paying for him until August 2024 in any case, hence why we paid a little more than he’s worth.
Koleosho - we’d make money on.
Amdouni - we’d make money on.
Berge - we’d get our money back.
O’Shea - we’d lose money.
Odobert- we’d make money.
Beyer - we’d get our money back.
Ramsey - unsure, but feel we’d lose money at this point.
Delcroix- we’d lose money.
Benson - we’d make money on.
Zaroury - we’d make money on.
Muric - we’d get our money back.
Cullen - we’d get our money back.
Foster - we’d make money on. I didn’t think so last season but do now.
Overall I think we’re in a healthy place, but I feel next summer will be the third on the bounce where we have a squad overhaul. We can’t continue buying 10-15 new players.
Koleosho - we’d make money on.
Amdouni - we’d make money on.
Berge - we’d get our money back.
O’Shea - we’d lose money.
Odobert- we’d make money.
Beyer - we’d get our money back.
Ramsey - unsure, but feel we’d lose money at this point.
Delcroix- we’d lose money.
Benson - we’d make money on.
Zaroury - we’d make money on.
Muric - we’d get our money back.
Cullen - we’d get our money back.
Foster - we’d make money on. I didn’t think so last season but do now.
Overall I think we’re in a healthy place, but I feel next summer will be the third on the bounce where we have a squad overhaul. We can’t continue buying 10-15 new players.
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Amdouni - https://www.skysports.com/amp/football/ ... to-burnleyCoolClaret wrote: ↑Sat Nov 04, 2023 7:17 pmKoleosho definitely - but I wouldn’t want to sell him either.
Amdouni? Nah, shown nothing so far.
Foster of course but not much more.
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You must’ve watched a different game to me then. And the guy behind me actually, who, quite rightly imo, protested massively at Amdouni being taken off because he’s “the best player on the pitch”.CoolClaret wrote: ↑Sat Nov 04, 2023 7:17 pmKoleosho definitely - but I wouldn’t want to sell him either.
Amdouni? Nah, shown nothing so far.
Foster of course but not much more.
I agreed. I thought taking Amdouni and Koleosho (deff our two best players) was crazy.
In good (experienced) teams, those Amdouni, Koleosho and Foster would smash it.
But the OP said “ So, we go down with ‘unsaleable liabilities’”. Which is just clearly utter bllx. Embarrassing statement.
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Article date -18th September 2023GodIsADeeJay81 wrote: ↑Sat Nov 04, 2023 7:31 pmAmdouni - https://www.skysports.com/amp/football/ ... to-burnley
Todays date - 4th Novermber 2023
The 'Swiss Messi' needs to show he can perform at a higher standard than he is showing right now. The Swiss league is incredibly weak, ranked lower than the Belgian league by Uefa.. The Championship is a better league
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I'm not talking about the game today - Amdouni did ok today, my comment was in retaliation to the notion that he's improved his valuation.NewClaret wrote: ↑Sat Nov 04, 2023 7:32 pmYou must’ve watched a different game to me then. And the guy behind me actually, who, quite rightly imo, protested massively at Amdouni being taken off because he’s “the best player on the pitch”.
I agreed. I thought taking Amdouni and Koleosho (deff our two best players) was crazy.
In good (experienced) teams, those Amdouni, Koleosho and Foster would smash it.
But the OP said “ So, we go down with ‘unsaleable liabilities’”. Which is just clearly utter bllx. Embarrassing statement.
For the fee that we paid and the hype - I'd have expected more.
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The point, which you’ve decided to duck under to suit your agenda, is he’s highly regarded/rated across Europe and if we were to sell we’d make our money back and more quite easilyCoolClaret wrote: ↑Sat Nov 04, 2023 7:35 pmArticle date -18th September 2023
Todays date - 4th Novermber 2023
The 'Swiss Messi' needs to show he can perform at a higher standard than he is showing right now. The Swiss league is incredibly weak, ranked lower than the Belgian league by Uefa.. The Championship is a better league
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If you think Tella and THB would be performing worse than their 'replacements' this year then I don't know what to tell you.GodIsADeeJay81 wrote: ↑Sat Nov 04, 2023 7:29 pmTella - 45 mins out of the 900 mins available in the league this season
THB - don’t deflect, he’s stayed in the championship for a reason
No other PL club took a punt on him, for whatever reason (probably cost), so he’s having another season in the championship
I thought he was great for us but other clubs don’t feel he’s worth the money
There's more to football thank plonking 11 men together and expecting it to work.
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We could potentially make our money back - some may say that he's flattered to impress given the massive step up in standard.GodIsADeeJay81 wrote: ↑Sat Nov 04, 2023 7:36 pmThe point, which you’ve decided to duck under to suit your agenda, is he’s highly regarded/rated across Europe and if we were to sell we’d make our money back and more quite easily
My agenda? Mate we're dog **** - I just don't think it's good enough and can't do with the delusion.
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I’ve never said they’d be worse or betterCoolClaret wrote: ↑Sat Nov 04, 2023 7:38 pmIf you think Tella and THB would be performing worse than their 'replacements' this year then I don't know what to tell you.
There's more to football thank plonking 11 men together and expecting it to work.
I’m saying one is in the championship for a reason and the other is warming a bench in Germany
There’s no guarantee they’d be better than who we have despite what you think
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I agree we’re toss, but you’re saying the players have decreased in value in just 10 league gamesCoolClaret wrote: ↑Sat Nov 04, 2023 7:39 pmWe could potentially make our money back - some may say that he's flattered to impress given the massive step up in standard.
My agenda? Mate we're dog **** - I just don't think it's good enough and can't do with the delusion.
Yes you’re pushing a stupid agenda, we’d make our money back because the players are generally quite young with lots of room to grow as players
This was my point the other day, we’ve gone from an old squad with little room for player growth and limited value to a young, exciting squad with lots of room to growth and more value long term
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The team would be better - it just would. At our best last season we'd batter what we've seen so far this season.GodIsADeeJay81 wrote: ↑Sat Nov 04, 2023 7:46 pmI’ve never said they’d be worse or better
I’m saying one is in the championship for a reason and the other is warming a bench in Germany
There’s no guarantee they’d be better than who we have despite what you think
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11 league games - nearly a third of the way into the season.GodIsADeeJay81 wrote: ↑Sat Nov 04, 2023 7:48 pmI agree we’re toss, but you’re saying the players have decreased in value in just 10 league games
Yes you’re pushing a stupid agenda, we’d make our money back because the players are generally quite young with lots of room to grow as players
This was my point the other day, we’ve gone from an old squad with little room for player growth and limited value to a young, exciting squad with lots of room to growth and more value long term
Question, do you want us to be a football team or a commercial venture?
Because as a fan I’d like to be a football team. If you’re happy with being a commercial venture then fair enough - we will never see eye to eye.
Our balance is so wrong. Blind man on a galloping horse can see it.
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JFW this is hard workCoolClaret wrote: ↑Sat Nov 04, 2023 7:52 pm11 league games - nearly a third of the way into the season.
Question, do you want us to be a football team or a commercial venture?
Because as a fan I’d like to be a football team. If you’re happy with being a commercial venture then fair enough - we will never see eye to eye.
Our balance is so wrong. Blind man on a galloping horse can see it.
As a club we have to be both and that’s where it went wrong during the latter years of the Dyche/Garlick reign
We need to have a constant conveyer of young, talented players coming into the club to replace those that came before them
It takes time to get going
Yes the balance is wrong, but the manager/owners have earned the time/right to rectify it
That you cannot see that isn’t my problem, it’s yours
We had an absolutely brilliant season in the championship and you’re thinking it should instantly translate into a good PL season and you’re struggling now because it hasn’t
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Foster and koleosho right now are the only 2 players we would sell for profit if season ended tomorrow
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We can mix it up far more than we have done.GodIsADeeJay81 wrote: ↑Sat Nov 04, 2023 8:00 pmJFW this is hard work
As a club we have to be both and that’s where it went wrong during the latter years of the Dyche/Garlick reign
We need to have a constant conveyer of young, talented players coming into the club to replace those that came before them
It takes time to get going
Yes the balance is wrong, but the manager/owners have earned the time/right to rectify it
That you cannot see that isn’t my problem, it’s yours
We had an absolutely brilliant season in the championship and you’re thinking it should instantly translate into a good PL season and you’re struggling now because it hasn’t
Nothing wrong with speculating on a few each season.
I don’t think our success in the Champ should have instantly translated into success in the Prem - what I did expect is to be offering more and to be a bit more sensible with our transfers and team building.
I'm not having this massively lowering of the standards and nonsense coming out being on 4 points after 11 games.
Anyone (more or less) can outspend a league and get a team to compete - barely being competitive and blaming it on having a young team is a complete copout.
We spent enough to show more that what we have. That is facts.
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Ok cool
You go with that, I cba batting this about with you anymore because it won’t go anywhere
You go with that, I cba batting this about with you anymore because it won’t go anywhere
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From what we’ve seen so far, we’re in the red.
Foster is big money, and Koleosho we only paid 3M for so loads of cash there, but the rest are worth either the same or less than we paid. A couple of good deals aren’t going to save us.
Also, good point raised higher up, we made benson and Zaroury into potentially big money players last year, only to bench them now…
Foster is big money, and Koleosho we only paid 3M for so loads of cash there, but the rest are worth either the same or less than we paid. A couple of good deals aren’t going to save us.
Also, good point raised higher up, we made benson and Zaroury into potentially big money players last year, only to bench them now…
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the lack of patience is staggering
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We could have taken Tella for 6 million before his loan that was his asking price. Suspect they got greedy and we couldn’t then stomach paying 18/20 million plus because his future value had gone.
Look at LK cost from Espanyol buy low sell high.
THB suspect his value was prohibited and as we are a club who look to maximise our profit I think the main reason we didn’t buy them was we couldn’t guarantee there quality at this level for the fee and didn’t see enough growth in there future value based with what we would have had to pay.I think Maatsen was a panicking move on deadline day which went against overall transfer policy of buy low sell high.
Reason we bought so many forward players because they by and large bring in the most money (appreciate better).
Think overall as a model we make money on our players which we brought in not sure we stay up but we be in a decent position to come back we are going down with assets.
Look at LK cost from Espanyol buy low sell high.
THB suspect his value was prohibited and as we are a club who look to maximise our profit I think the main reason we didn’t buy them was we couldn’t guarantee there quality at this level for the fee and didn’t see enough growth in there future value based with what we would have had to pay.I think Maatsen was a panicking move on deadline day which went against overall transfer policy of buy low sell high.
Reason we bought so many forward players because they by and large bring in the most money (appreciate better).
Think overall as a model we make money on our players which we brought in not sure we stay up but we be in a decent position to come back we are going down with assets.
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Apparently the season ended at 6:04pm this afternoon and there aren’t another 27 league games in which our players could put some good performances in and enhance their reputations.
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Not sure I agree about Kolesheo and Amdouni yet. Kolesheo is quick but doesn't appear to have any kind of football brain/end product and Amdouni again looks good in patches then goes missing for long spells.
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Yeah because we were such an experienced side last season and we also can’t sign any experience if we are relegated.Mixedkompany wrote: ↑Sat Nov 04, 2023 6:04 pm.
We will be selling at significant losses and they are too young and inexperienced to get us back up.
Ekdal 2m, Beyer 9m, Zaroury 3m, Benson 2m, Cullen 2m, Foster 8m, McNally 1.5m, Koleosho 3m, Amdouni (reported at 16m? so probably 10m).
Who are we losing significant amounts on? Like VK said last summer the reported fees were inaccurate and the actual amount was closer to half that reported. I assume when it’s reported as £19m for Trafford it’s closer to £10m paid and absolutely stacked with potential add ons.
I think Berge will easily get a move if we are relegated, our best player atm comfortably. Amdouni might have the best close control iv seen at BFC serious talent, Odobert has a good scoring record in French football.
Tresor looks like he’s playing in roller blades and might be the only one we’d struggle to recoup on with a transfer but I’d assume he’d stay and hope to recoup some of that fee by helping the club to promotion.
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Tella went for £25m didn’t he? No idea how much was add ons.watsonsclarets wrote: ↑Sat Nov 04, 2023 8:57 pmWe could have taken Tella for 6 million before his loan that was his asking price. Suspect they got greedy and we couldn’t then stomach paying 18/20 million plus because his future value had gone.
Look at LK cost from Espanyol buy low sell high.
THB suspect his value was prohibited and as we are a club who look to maximise our profit I think the main reason we didn’t buy them was we couldn’t guarantee there quality at this level for the fee and didn’t see enough growth in there future value based with what we would have had to pay.I think Maatsen was a panicking move on deadline day which went against overall transfer policy of buy low sell high.
Reason we bought so many forward players because they by and large bring in the most money (appreciate better).
Think overall as a model we make money on our players which we brought in not sure we stay up but we be in a decent position to come back we are going down with assets.
I’d have loved Tella back just because I loved him last season but it’s an Enormous fee for someone with zero track record in top flight football and who didn’t break 20 in the Championship.
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Thought Amdouni looked quite good yesterday in the 2nd half cutting in from the inside left position until VK took him off .CoolClaret wrote: ↑Sat Nov 04, 2023 7:17 pmKoleosho definitely - but I wouldn’t want to sell him either.
Amdouni? Nah, shown nothing so far.
Foster of course but not much more.
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Isnt Tresor on loan with an option to buy,or is it an obligation to buy?KRBFC wrote: ↑Sun Nov 05, 2023 8:42 amYeah because we were such an experienced side last season and we also can’t sign any experience if we are relegated.
Ekdal 2m, Beyer 9m, Zaroury 3m, Benson 2m, Cullen 2m, Foster 8m, McNally 1.5m, Koleosho 3m, Amdouni (reported at 16m? so probably 10m).
Who are we losing significant amounts on? Like VK said last summer the reported fees were inaccurate and the actual amount was closer to half that reported. I assume when it’s reported as £19m for Trafford it’s closer to £10m paid and absolutely stacked with potential add ons.
I think Berge will easily get a move if we are relegated, our best player atm comfortably. Amdouni might have the best close control iv seen at BFC serious talent, Odobert has a good scoring record in French football.
Tresor looks like he’s playing in roller blades and might be the only one we’d struggle to recoup on with a transfer but I’d assume he’d stay and hope to recoup some of that fee by helping the club to promotion.
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If we did go down, we'd have to sell a few to balance the books.
Sell Foster, Koleosho, Trafford, Al-Dahkil and Tresor (just examples)
We'd still have left:
Muric
Roberts
Vitinho
Ekdal
Beyer
Cullen
Massengo
Berge
Brownhill
Ramsey
Benson
JBG
Odobert
Benson
Zaroury
Bruun Larsen
Add a few loans, and sign some physicality and we'd be fine.
As everyone knows, we've massively cocked up recruitment, but only because we've signed for the wrong positions, the general signings haven't been too bad tbh.
Sell Foster, Koleosho, Trafford, Al-Dahkil and Tresor (just examples)
We'd still have left:
Muric
Roberts
Vitinho
Ekdal
Beyer
Cullen
Massengo
Berge
Brownhill
Ramsey
Benson
JBG
Odobert
Benson
Zaroury
Bruun Larsen
Add a few loans, and sign some physicality and we'd be fine.
As everyone knows, we've massively cocked up recruitment, but only because we've signed for the wrong positions, the general signings haven't been too bad tbh.
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Re: Saleable Assets
We would be lucky to get 3 million for trafford
Re: Saleable Assets
You forgot McNally, Bastien and Twine returning from their loans. Mellon looking good in L2, Churlinov on the road to recovery, Obafemi too. You left Amdouni and Dara off the list too.Ric_C wrote: ↑Sun Nov 05, 2023 10:20 amIf we did go down, we'd have to sell a few to balance the books.
Sell Foster, Koleosho, Trafford, Al-Dahkil and Tresor (just examples)
We'd still have left:
Muric
Roberts
Vitinho
Ekdal
Beyer
Cullen
Massengo
Berge
Brownhill
Ramsey
Benson
JBG
Odobert
Benson
Zaroury
Bruun Larsen
Add a few loans, and sign some physicality and we'd be fine.
As everyone knows, we've massively cocked up recruitment, but only because we've signed for the wrong positions, the general signings haven't been too bad tbh.
Our squad is stacked with standout Championship players, we can sell 5 and not feel much of a hit.
Re: Saleable Assets
If we sold Brownhill, Foster, Weghorst, Trafford, Dakhil, Tresor, Koleosho.
Lost Taylor, Larsen, Cork and Rodriguez.
Muric
Roberts Ekdal Beyer Delcroix
Cullen Berge Ramsey
Benson Amdouni Zaroury
Potential Subs:
Dara
Churlinov
Gudmundsson
Massengo
Vitinho
Obafemi
Odobert
Redmond
McNally
Twine
Bastien
Anyone wanna tell me that squad isn’t likely to bounce back?
Lost Taylor, Larsen, Cork and Rodriguez.
Muric
Roberts Ekdal Beyer Delcroix
Cullen Berge Ramsey
Benson Amdouni Zaroury
Potential Subs:
Dara
Churlinov
Gudmundsson
Massengo
Vitinho
Obafemi
Odobert
Redmond
McNally
Twine
Bastien
Anyone wanna tell me that squad isn’t likely to bounce back?
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Re: Saleable Assets
My OP was really about the commercial situation in the likely event of relegation.
Of course many of the younger players will have a reasonable value, however, some will have little exposure and haven’t had the chance to develop and enhance their value and reputation. So, I feel it’s unlikely their value will increase. We then also have the negative financial effect of relegation. We know there will be a clear out needed to trim the wage bill. Nick Pope @ £10m was an example of the need to sell quickly. And I think all of us were surprised at what we received for Englands No 2 goalkeeper.
None of the younger speculative signings are pulling up any trees atm. Koleosho is the only one who is looking encouraging. But as yet the end product is limited. Foster after a resurgence is now missing from the team. I don’t know why,but if this is psychological his absence could be lengthy. That would certainly impact his value.
I’m trying to be realistic at this point and not pessimistic. The season isn’t over by any means but it appears we have recruited badly in an unbalanced manner. And I feel these so called ‘saleable assets’ in the main will devalue on relegation. There will be the odd exception and if we start winning their values will pick up. However, in order to increase their worth these players have to be bought by PL teams. So, if we take an average PL team. Let’s say Palace for example. Which of our players get into their team and are better now?
None of the back 5. Perhaps Berge, Foster and Koleosho. That’s my view and there’s also a hell of a lot of money wasted on fees and incentives to achieve player churn. Let’s see where we are in July with these saleable assets.
In the meantime I’ll be at Arsenal next week. Hoping we can get something from the game.
Of course many of the younger players will have a reasonable value, however, some will have little exposure and haven’t had the chance to develop and enhance their value and reputation. So, I feel it’s unlikely their value will increase. We then also have the negative financial effect of relegation. We know there will be a clear out needed to trim the wage bill. Nick Pope @ £10m was an example of the need to sell quickly. And I think all of us were surprised at what we received for Englands No 2 goalkeeper.
None of the younger speculative signings are pulling up any trees atm. Koleosho is the only one who is looking encouraging. But as yet the end product is limited. Foster after a resurgence is now missing from the team. I don’t know why,but if this is psychological his absence could be lengthy. That would certainly impact his value.
I’m trying to be realistic at this point and not pessimistic. The season isn’t over by any means but it appears we have recruited badly in an unbalanced manner. And I feel these so called ‘saleable assets’ in the main will devalue on relegation. There will be the odd exception and if we start winning their values will pick up. However, in order to increase their worth these players have to be bought by PL teams. So, if we take an average PL team. Let’s say Palace for example. Which of our players get into their team and are better now?
None of the back 5. Perhaps Berge, Foster and Koleosho. That’s my view and there’s also a hell of a lot of money wasted on fees and incentives to achieve player churn. Let’s see where we are in July with these saleable assets.
In the meantime I’ll be at Arsenal next week. Hoping we can get something from the game.
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Re: Saleable Assets
In terms of thinking about which players we will be able to sell for a profit next summer, the answer right now is none of them. Foster is on his way if he can be available often enough and carry on playing as he has.
I can't imagine any Premier League team wanting to sign any of our other players based on performances so far.
I can't imagine any Premier League team wanting to sign any of our other players based on performances so far.
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Re: Saleable Assets
Just stop digging, you’re making it worseMixedkompany wrote: ↑Sun Nov 05, 2023 11:56 amMy OP was really about the commercial situation in the likely event of relegation.
Of course many of the younger players will have a reasonable value, however, some will have little exposure and haven’t had the chance to develop and enhance their value and reputation. So, I feel it’s unlikely their value will increase. We then also have the negative financial effect of relegation. We know there will be a clear out needed to trim the wage bill. Nick Pope @ £10m was an example of the need to sell quickly. And I think all of us were surprised at what we received for Englands No 2 goalkeeper.
None of the younger speculative signings are pulling up any trees atm. Koleosho is the only one who is looking encouraging. But as yet the end product is limited. Foster after a resurgence is now missing from the team. I don’t know why,but if this is psychological his absence could be lengthy. That would certainly impact his value.
I’m trying to be realistic at this point and not pessimistic. The season isn’t over by any means but it appears we have recruited badly in an unbalanced manner. And I feel these so called ‘saleable assets’ in the main will devalue on relegation. There will be the odd exception and if we start winning their values will pick up. However, in order to increase their worth these players have to be bought by PL teams. So, if we take an average PL team. Let’s say Palace for example. Which of our players get into their team and are better now?
None of the back 5. Perhaps Berge, Foster and Koleosho. That’s my view and there’s also a hell of a lot of money wasted on fees and incentives to achieve player churn. Let’s see where we are in July with these saleable assets.
In the meantime I’ll be at Arsenal next week. Hoping we can get something from the game.
The back 5 will go for good money, Taylor excepted due to his age
Money hasn’t been wasted really, stop making that claim
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Re: Saleable Assets
Really?daveisaclaret wrote: ↑Sun Nov 05, 2023 12:07 pmIn terms of thinking about which players we will be able to sell for a profit next summer, the answer right now is none of them. Foster is on his way if he can be available often enough and carry on playing as he has.
I can't imagine any Premier League team wanting to sign any of our other players based on performances so far.
A bunch of young players, with room to improve and you think no one’s going to want them?
Ok