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Minutes silence yesterday.....

Post by StuffyClaret » Sun Nov 05, 2023 11:53 am

....what happened to it?

The announcement was that a minutes silence would commence after The Last Post and the end of the silence would be indicated by the referees whistle.

Pretty simple instructions to follow I reckon.

Very disappointed that this couldn't have been honoured. :cry:
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Re: Minutes silence yesterday.....

Post by RammyClaret61 » Sun Nov 05, 2023 11:56 am

I thought the same. But some started applauding when the last post finished. Everyone then joined in.

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Re: Minutes silence yesterday.....

Post by beddie » Sun Nov 05, 2023 11:58 am

It’s always the same, somebody decides to start clapping and everyone feels obliged to follow suit. The announcer needs to say after the Last Post please do not start clapping as there will be a minutes silence which will cease on the referees whistle.

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Re: Minutes silence yesterday.....

Post by gawthorpe_view » Sun Nov 05, 2023 12:03 pm

The announcer actually said a moment's silence, which was probably a mistake in the circumstances.

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Re: Minutes silence yesterday.....

Post by claret2018 » Sun Nov 05, 2023 12:09 pm

Just do away with it ffs

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Re: Minutes silence yesterday.....

Post by daveisaclaret » Sun Nov 05, 2023 12:10 pm

Not totally convinced the 4th November needs to be used for remembrance but it is a bit crap that people can't observe a silence properly.

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Re: Minutes silence yesterday.....

Post by TheFamilyCat » Sun Nov 05, 2023 12:15 pm

Probably best not to try and over complicate it. A blow of the whistle to start, one to end. There were never any issues when this was deemed sufficient to pay your respects.
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Re: Minutes silence yesterday.....

Post by Nori1958 » Sun Nov 05, 2023 12:18 pm

claret2018 wrote:
Sun Nov 05, 2023 12:09 pm
Just do away with it ffs
How disrespectful can you get?
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Re: Minutes silence yesterday.....

Post by claptrappers_union » Sun Nov 05, 2023 12:21 pm

The announcement delivered is the same for all fixtures. It's sent to the club by the Premier League

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Re: Minutes silence yesterday.....

Post by Jamesy » Sun Nov 05, 2023 12:30 pm

TheFamilyCat wrote:
Sun Nov 05, 2023 12:15 pm
Probably best not to try and over complicate it. A blow of the whistle to start, one to end. There were never any issues when this was deemed sufficient to pay your respects.
Spot on!

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Re: Minutes silence yesterday.....

Post by Quickenthetempo » Sun Nov 05, 2023 12:47 pm

I can't say I noticed that but I was a little taken back by the noise coming from the area at the back of the tunnel.

I presume it was late people still trying to get in the ground for the CF end?

But the ground must have been silent for me to hear outside.

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Re: Minutes silence yesterday.....

Post by Rick_Muller » Sun Nov 05, 2023 1:39 pm

I thought it was impeccably observed by very nearly all fans in the ground, and the last post was very poignant too. Yes, it is a shame that some fans clapped early causing the whole ground to applaud but it wasn’t ruined by it.
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Re: Minutes silence yesterday.....

Post by claret2018 » Sun Nov 05, 2023 3:24 pm

Nori1958 wrote:
Sun Nov 05, 2023 12:18 pm
How disrespectful can you get?
Go to the cenotaph on Sunday for reflection and to pay your respects, don’t impose it everywhere for a week either side of Remembrance Day.

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Re: Minutes silence yesterday.....

Post by Silkyskills1 » Sun Nov 05, 2023 3:27 pm

beddie wrote:
Sun Nov 05, 2023 11:58 am
It’s always the same, somebody decides to start clapping and everyone feels obliged to follow suit. The announcer needs to say after the Last Post please do not start clapping as there will be a minutes silence which will cease on the referees whistle.
Seriously? You think the announcer should pop-up in the middle of it all to tell people not to clap yet. 🤔

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Re: Minutes silence yesterday.....

Post by Nori1958 » Sun Nov 05, 2023 3:29 pm

claret2018 wrote:
Sun Nov 05, 2023 3:24 pm
Go to the cenotaph on Sunday for reflection and to pay your respects, don’t impose it everywhere for a week either side of Remembrance Day.
It was the language used in the post, as much as the crass comment, if you don't like it, just keep quiet, or put across your displeasure in a more appropriate tone.

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Re: Minutes silence yesterday.....

Post by Jakubclaret » Sun Nov 05, 2023 3:34 pm

A minute should be neither here nor there, it’s not everyday people are being expected to remain silent & it shouldn’t be a problem & I dare say to the vast majority it won’t be.

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Re: Minutes silence yesterday.....

Post by aclaretinstevenage » Sun Nov 05, 2023 3:46 pm

claret2018 wrote:
Sun Nov 05, 2023 3:24 pm
Go to the cenotaph on Sunday for reflection and to pay your respects, don’t impose it everywhere for a week either side of Remembrance Day.

Football wants everyone to see players "taking a knee", football wants everyone to see players wearing Rainbow laces / armbands but you don't think football should want people to pay respect to the millions who gave their lives to protect everyone's freedom?

Strange.
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Re: Minutes silence yesterday.....

Post by claret2018 » Sun Nov 05, 2023 3:55 pm

aclaretinstevenage wrote:
Sun Nov 05, 2023 3:46 pm
Football wants everyone to see players "taking a knee", football wants everyone to see players wearing Rainbow laces / armbands but you don't think football should want people to pay respect to the millions who gave their lives to protect everyone's freedom?

Strange.
Racism and homophobia are issues, or certainly have been, in football. Not sure what the war has to do with it.

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Re: Minutes silence yesterday.....

Post by evensteadiereddie » Sun Nov 05, 2023 3:59 pm

Nori1958 wrote:
Sun Nov 05, 2023 3:29 pm
It was the language used in the post, as much as the crass comment, if you don't like it, just keep quiet, or put across your displeasure in a more appropriate tone.
Great advice for those against taking the knee and similar stances.
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Re: Minutes silence yesterday.....

Post by CoolClaret » Sun Nov 05, 2023 4:05 pm

claret2018 wrote:
Sun Nov 05, 2023 3:55 pm
Racism and homophobia are issues, or certainly have been, in football. Not sure what the war has to do with it.
Read a book please, you absolute weapon.

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Re: Minutes silence yesterday.....

Post by Funkydrummer » Sun Nov 05, 2023 4:09 pm

Is 2018 in your user name your date of birth ?

Because you're acting like a 5 year old that needs to learn .
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Re: Minutes silence yesterday.....

Post by Volvoclaret » Sun Nov 05, 2023 4:29 pm

Number of brain cancer cells

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Re: Minutes silence yesterday.....

Post by GetIntoEm » Sun Nov 05, 2023 4:33 pm

So either people here have misunderstood or clubs have interpreted the instructions wrong because the televised games today have done exactly the same as we did yesterday.

Nice to have something to moan about tho

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Re: Minutes silence yesterday.....

Post by HahaYeah » Sun Nov 05, 2023 4:34 pm

claret2018 wrote:
Sun Nov 05, 2023 3:55 pm
Racism and homophobia are issues, or certainly have been, in football. Not sure what the war has to do with it.
:lol:

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Re: Minutes silence yesterday.....

Post by ksrclaret » Sun Nov 05, 2023 4:34 pm

What can the ref or stadium announcer do when a few thousand people start clapping, despite being told there would be a minutes silence to follow the last post?

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Re: Minutes silence yesterday.....

Post by fidelcastro » Sun Nov 05, 2023 4:36 pm

GetIntoEm wrote:
Sun Nov 05, 2023 4:33 pm
So either people here have misunderstood or clubs have interpreted the instructions wrong because the televised games today have done exactly the same as we did yesterday.

Nice to have something to moan about tho
Or maybe clubs have just accepted that there are too many knobheads who attend football matches incapable of being silent for a minute.

Applause is the only way to drown them out.

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Re: Minutes silence yesterday.....

Post by GetIntoEm » Sun Nov 05, 2023 4:38 pm

Don't be daft, people were impecibly quiet during the last post. It was a fine tribute
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Re: Minutes silence yesterday.....

Post by taio » Sun Nov 05, 2023 4:39 pm

fidelcastro wrote:
Sun Nov 05, 2023 4:36 pm
Or maybe clubs have just accepted that there are too many knobheads who attend football matches incapable of being silent for a minute.

Applause is the only way to drown them out.
It wasn't like that at all yesterday to be fair.

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Re: Minutes silence yesterday.....

Post by IanMcL » Sun Nov 05, 2023 4:40 pm

The minute was observed all over the ground. Turf Moor is good for that.

However, the complications was the Ladt Post, which probably took a minute. Whilst I was waiting for silence then a whistle, there was obviously some who confused the lady note of the bugle with the referee's whistle! Particularly away end/CFS methinks.

Nonetheless, I would assume that everyone thought they had paid their respects, as indeed they had, during LP.

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Re: Minutes silence yesterday.....

Post by fidelcastro » Sun Nov 05, 2023 4:40 pm

GetIntoEm wrote:
Sun Nov 05, 2023 4:38 pm
Don't be daft, people were impecibly quiet during the last post. It was a fine tribute
The trumpet will have drowned out any chuntering. A whole minutes' silence after that was probably asking too much.

I'd have much preferred it to the applause though.

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Re: Minutes silence yesterday.....

Post by wilks_bfc » Sun Nov 05, 2023 4:41 pm

Tradition is the Last Post followed by minutes silence but I can understand some not understanding that and applauding straight after it

What I don’t understand is why somebody thought it wise to shout “COME ON BURNLEY” straight after it

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Re: Minutes silence yesterday.....

Post by fidelcastro » Sun Nov 05, 2023 4:42 pm

taio wrote:
Sun Nov 05, 2023 4:39 pm
It wasn't like that at all yesterday to be fair.
How do you know when everyone immediately applauded anyway?

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Re: Minutes silence yesterday.....

Post by taio » Sun Nov 05, 2023 4:44 pm

fidelcastro wrote:
Sun Nov 05, 2023 4:42 pm
How do you know when everyone immediately applauded anyway?
It was just a misunderstanding. It should have been a minute's silence before the last post. I've no doubt it would have been impeccably observed had that been the case.

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Re: Minutes silence yesterday.....

Post by fidelcastro » Sun Nov 05, 2023 4:46 pm

taio wrote:
Sun Nov 05, 2023 4:44 pm
It was just a misunderstanding. It should have been a minute's silence before the last post. I've no doubt it would have been impeccably observed had that been the case.
Not sure how you can know that or why there'd be any misunderstanding.

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Re: Minutes silence yesterday.....

Post by taio » Sun Nov 05, 2023 4:48 pm

fidelcastro wrote:
Sun Nov 05, 2023 4:46 pm
Not sure how you can know that or why there'd be any misunderstanding.
I know because of how well it was observed against Blackburn last year and the cotext yesterday was clear to me. There's was no disrespect yesterday; just confusion from some supporters. Nothing to be concerned about.

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Re: Minutes silence yesterday.....

Post by fidelcastro » Sun Nov 05, 2023 4:49 pm

taio wrote:
Sun Nov 05, 2023 4:48 pm
I know because of how well it was observed against Blackburn last year and the cotext yesterday was clear to me. There's was no disrespect yesterday; just confusion from some supporters. Nothing to be concerned about.
Some people must be very easily confused then :roll:

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Re: Minutes silence yesterday.....

Post by taio » Sun Nov 05, 2023 4:51 pm

fidelcastro wrote:
Sun Nov 05, 2023 4:49 pm
Some people must be very easily confused then :roll:
Yes some were - too easily confused but there you go.
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Re: Minutes silence yesterday.....

Post by Taffy on the wing » Sun Nov 05, 2023 4:55 pm

claret2018 wrote:
Sun Nov 05, 2023 3:24 pm
Go to the cenotaph on Sunday for reflection and to pay your respects, don’t impose it everywhere for a week either side of Remembrance Day.
Just keep digging.......FFS!

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Re: Minutes silence yesterday.....

Post by wilks_bfc » Sun Nov 05, 2023 5:01 pm

taio wrote:
Sun Nov 05, 2023 4:44 pm
It was just a misunderstanding. It should have been a minute's silence before the last post. I've no doubt it would have been impeccably observed had that been the case.
It shouldn’t be a minutes silence before the Last Post

The last note of the Last Post, signals the start of the silence

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Re: Minutes silence yesterday.....

Post by ClaretAndJew » Sun Nov 05, 2023 5:03 pm

Turf Moor has been silent all season to be fair.

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Re: Minutes silence yesterday.....

Post by Kilson810 » Sun Nov 05, 2023 6:13 pm

claret2018 wrote:
Sun Nov 05, 2023 3:24 pm
Go to the cenotaph on Sunday for reflection and to pay your respects, don’t impose it everywhere for a week either side of Remembrance Day.
Sorry that you feel a moments silence for the people who fought and died for your freedom is imposed on you
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Re: Minutes silence yesterday.....

Post by Loyalclaret » Sun Nov 05, 2023 8:25 pm

Quickenthetempo wrote:
Sun Nov 05, 2023 12:47 pm
I can't say I noticed that but I was a little taken back by the noise coming from the area at the back of the tunnel.

I presume it was late people still trying to get in the ground for the CF end?

But the ground must have been silent for me to hear outside.
Yes there were 100's of us outside the turnstiles (300+ at a guess) I think they shut or slowed the turnstiles down, I was at the front of the queue with my son before the pat down/dog pen. It was only because I was stood near the stewards who stopped the movement into the pen saying to their colleagues there was a minute silence starting otherwise I wouldn't have known. People behind me were shouting the usual 'get it moving' and a few Burnley shouts

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Re: Minutes silence yesterday.....

Post by Nori1958 » Sun Nov 05, 2023 8:29 pm

Loyalclaret wrote:
Sun Nov 05, 2023 8:25 pm
Yes there were 100's of us outside the turnstiles (300+ at a guess) I think they shut or slowed the turnstiles down, I was at the front of the queue with my son before the pat down/dog pen. It was only because I was stood near the stewards who stopped the movement into the pen saying to their colleagues there was a minute silence starting otherwise I wouldn't have known. People behind me were shouting the usual 'get it moving' and a few Burnley shouts
We have a pat down/dog pen?...I never knew that

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Re: Minutes silence yesterday.....

Post by Loyalclaret » Sun Nov 05, 2023 8:41 pm

That's how I would described it (similar to the big warehouse clubs) three railed channels, each person patted down then into an area before turnstile where the dog (s) sniff as you enter and up/down the turnstile queue.

If the dogs reacts people are taken to table at the side for a more thorough search

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Re: Minutes silence yesterday.....

Post by Nori1958 » Sun Nov 05, 2023 8:57 pm

Loyalclaret wrote:
Sun Nov 05, 2023 8:41 pm
That's how I would described it (similar to the big warehouse clubs) three railed channels, each person patted down then into an area before turnstile where the dog (s) sniff as you enter and up/down the turnstile queue.

If the dogs reacts people are taken to table at the side for a more thorough search
Don't have those where I go in, you're lucky if the one steward even looks at you

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Re: Minutes silence yesterday.....

Post by Bullabill » Sun Nov 05, 2023 9:04 pm

It might be best to have the minute's silence before the last post.

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Re: Minutes silence yesterday.....

Post by ClaretTony » Sun Nov 05, 2023 10:57 pm

Bullabill wrote:
Sun Nov 05, 2023 9:04 pm
It might be best to have the minute's silence before the last post.
Isn’t that how it should be rather than playing it during the minute?

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Re: Minutes silence yesterday.....

Post by nil_desperandum » Mon Nov 06, 2023 12:04 am

Bullabill wrote:
Sun Nov 05, 2023 9:04 pm
It might be best to have the minute's silence before the last post.
At a football match I think that you are probably correct, but this isn't the usual or expected way.
It should be The Last Post, then the exhortation should be read, "They shall grow not old, as we that are left grow old, Age shall not weary them, nor the years condemn. At the going down of the sun, and in the morning, We will remember them. "Response: "We will remember them".
Then it should be the period of silence and this is broken by the bugle (in this case a trumpet) sounding the Reveille, ("The Rouse") which is a different bugle call and shorter.
Yesterday the exhortation was read BEFORE the Last Post which is not the usual way, and may have added to the confusion.
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Re: Minutes silence yesterday.....

Post by bobinho » Mon Nov 06, 2023 6:41 am

ClaretTony wrote:
Sun Nov 05, 2023 10:57 pm
Isn’t that how it should be rather than playing it during the minute?
Usually, the last post sounds as the flags, banners and/or colours are lowered, there’s then a minutes silence, then reveille is sounded.

It shouldn’t really be any different at the football grounds, but we all know the utter morons attending need more help than a verbal instruction 30 seconds before it happens.

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Re: Minutes silence yesterday.....

Post by Barlickclaret » Mon Nov 06, 2023 9:56 am

The exhortation and the last post was observed like it should be, so if people started to clap early then that's there choice, but doesn't make them morons, the good thing to come out of this is the whingers on here have another topic to keep them happy till the next one.

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