Gooners v Clarets match thread

whalleyclaret · Post by **whalleyclaret** » Sat Nov 11, 2023 4:24 pm

Trafford not good enough for this level, both goals so weak needs to be taken out of the frame for next game if not subbed now

Swizzlestick · Post by **Swizzlestick** » Sat Nov 11, 2023 4:24 pm

He HAS to bite the bullet with the keeper when Muric is back. The way he stays glued to his line reminds me a bit of Hart when he was here.

And for the love of god when is Ekdal back?

Kilson810 · Post by **Kilson810** » Sat Nov 11, 2023 4:24 pm

Trafford is so weak it's embarrassing. Every team just puts crosses on top of him and watches him crumble.

tally · Post by **tally** » Sat Nov 11, 2023 4:24 pm

Another tomming on the cards I feel

IanMcL · Post by **IanMcL** » Sat Nov 11, 2023 4:24 pm

Flaps again

jojomk1 · Post by **jojomk1** » Sat Nov 11, 2023 4:25 pm

Vino blanco wrote: ↑
Sat Nov 11, 2023 4:23 pm
Just logged in to say TRAFFORD HAS TO BE DROPPED.

But he won't be

Swizzlestick · Post by **Swizzlestick** » Sat Nov 11, 2023 4:25 pm

Such a shame because this had been a battling, solid performance

Clive 1960 · Post by **Clive 1960** » Sat Nov 11, 2023 4:25 pm

I'm sorry but I'm afraid this will be Traffords last game he is so weak at coming for crosses .

spt_claret · Post by **spt_claret** » Sat Nov 11, 2023 4:25 pm

Get Odobert and Obafemi on for JBG and Jay, maximize pace and get at them direct. Our goal came from raw pace, need it both sides and up top.

It Is What It Is · Post by **It Is What It Is** » Sat Nov 11, 2023 4:25 pm

Dear Santa,
Can we have a decent goalie and a defence that can deal with simple balls in the box please.
Thankyou from a thoroughly p155ed off sufferer.

Goalposts · Post by **Goalposts** » Sat Nov 11, 2023 4:26 pm

No where again on that one

WazzaClaret · Post by **WazzaClaret** » Sat Nov 11, 2023 4:26 pm

Commanding his box during set pieces will come with age. That's why I think he's our keeper in a couple of seasons. 2 cracking saves in the first half but let's himself down badly.
Need muroc in for now.

Superjohnnyfrancis · Post by **Superjohnnyfrancis** » Sat Nov 11, 2023 4:26 pm

Throwing away the whole season for a school kid to maybe come good, terrible management that.

tally · Post by **tally** » Sat Nov 11, 2023 4:26 pm

too late now to get anything from this (for us up to 2nd goal) a good game

IanMcL · Post by **IanMcL** » Sat Nov 11, 2023 4:27 pm

We look ok going forward.

willsclarets · Post by **willsclarets** » Sat Nov 11, 2023 4:27 pm

One thing to mention is I don't think muric saves that effort from saka first half onto the bar.

claretgimmer · Post by **claretgimmer** » Sat Nov 11, 2023 4:27 pm

Dyche persevered with Jo Hart who like Trafford had Dracula syndrome and as a result Mee & Tarks game suffered through lack of confidence in the keeper but after the Everton game he put Heaton back in and things were 100% better, I`m afraid it`s time to drop Trafford for his sake, the defenders sake and the teams sake.

superdimitri · Post by **superdimitri** » Sat Nov 11, 2023 4:28 pm

Lob balls close to our keeper and you'll score. This isn't Arsenal playing well or showing their class, it's literally Sunday league tactics of putting a big man on the opposition keeper.

And it's not just about coming for balls, it's about commanding your area. If he knows he can't beat Saliba to the ball he needs to make sure someone wins the ball before him.

IanMcL · Post by **IanMcL** » Sat Nov 11, 2023 4:28 pm

Wide from Rice

tally · Post by **tally** » Sat Nov 11, 2023 4:29 pm

IanMcL wrote: ↑
Sat Nov 11, 2023 4:27 pm
We look ok going forward.

We just do not get forward enough Ian to be honest

THEWELLERNUT70 · Post by **THEWELLERNUT70** » Sat Nov 11, 2023 4:29 pm

The thing I just don't get with the second goal is what is Trafford trying to do, saliba is in his eyeline throughout but he's absolutely ******* clueless as what to do to get there 1st

Jamesy · Post by **Jamesy** » Sat Nov 11, 2023 4:30 pm

willsclarets wrote: ↑
Sat Nov 11, 2023 4:27 pm
One thing to mention is I don't think muric saves that effort from saka first half onto the bar.

How can you say that when you don’t know? I have been quite restrained about Trafford thus far, however I have now got to say Vincent’s stubbornness in keep selecting him will result in relegation. Muric not even on bench today.

spt_claret · Post by **spt_claret** » Sat Nov 11, 2023 4:30 pm

superdimitri wrote: ↑
Sat Nov 11, 2023 4:28 pm
Lob balls close to our keeper and you'll score. This isn't Arsenal playing well or showing their class, it's literally Sunday league tactics of putting a big man on the opposition keeper.

And it's not just about coming for balls, it's about commanding your area. If he knows he can't beat Saliba to the ball he needs to make sure someone wins the ball before him.

It is a little worrying that Arsenal of all teams are going for the "pump high balls into the box, win setplays and stick a man on the keeper" tactic, worse that it's working.

burnleymik · Post by **burnleymik** » Sat Nov 11, 2023 4:30 pm

Berge has been outstanding defensively.

JimmyRobbo · Post by **JimmyRobbo** » Sat Nov 11, 2023 4:30 pm

Right, another corner. Let's hope we defend it better than so many....

spt_claret · Post by **spt_claret** » Sat Nov 11, 2023 4:31 pm

Jamesy wrote: ↑
Sat Nov 11, 2023 4:30 pm
How can you say that when you don’t know? I have been quite restrained about Trafford thus far, however I have now got to say Vincent’s stubbornness in keep selecting him will result in relegation. Muric not even on bench today.

I'm on Team Aro but he's on international duty

willsclarets · Post by **willsclarets** » Sat Nov 11, 2023 4:31 pm

Jamesy wrote: ↑
Sat Nov 11, 2023 4:30 pm
How can you say that when you don’t know? I have been quite restrained about Trafford thus far, however I have now got to say Vincent’s stubbornness in keep selecting him will result in relegation. Muric not even on bench today.

I don't know, it's just my opinion

THEWELLERNUT70 · Post by **THEWELLERNUT70** » Sat Nov 11, 2023 4:31 pm

spt_claret wrote: ↑
Sat Nov 11, 2023 4:31 pm
I'm on Team Aro but he's on international duty

Muric was unavailable today because of international duty I think

Superjohnnyfrancis · Post by **Superjohnnyfrancis** » Sat Nov 11, 2023 4:32 pm

Jamesy wrote: ↑
Sat Nov 11, 2023 4:30 pm
How can you say that when you don’t know? I have been quite restrained about Trafford thus far, however I have now got to say Vincent’s stubbornness in keep selecting him will result in relegation. Muric not even on bench today.

Muric was playing against Israel yesterday I think, he has no excuses left to play calamity now, I’d rather play vigoroux if Muric isn’t available.

Jamesy · Post by **Jamesy** » Sat Nov 11, 2023 4:32 pm

Clive 1960 wrote: ↑
Sat Nov 11, 2023 4:25 pm
I'm sorry but I'm afraid this will be Traffords last game he is so weak at coming for crosses .

You really think so? You don’t know Vincent then.

JimmyRobbo · Post by **JimmyRobbo** » Sat Nov 11, 2023 4:32 pm

burnleymik wrote: ↑
Sat Nov 11, 2023 4:30 pm
Berge has been outstanding defensively.

He's starting to look like the player I thought we were signing.

Taffy on the wing · Post by **Taffy on the wing** » Sat Nov 11, 2023 4:32 pm

Guy can't even tie his own shoes..... ponce!

Jamesy · Post by **Jamesy** » Sat Nov 11, 2023 4:33 pm

spt_claret wrote: ↑
Sat Nov 11, 2023 4:31 pm
I'm on Team Aro but he's on international duty

Cheers. I should have done my homework!

Spiral · Post by **Spiral** » Sat Nov 11, 2023 4:33 pm

Muric must obviously be injured or ill not to make the bench today, but we're at the point where keeping Trafford in and exposing him like this is just cruel to the lad. You need to play to get experience, but you need to have the absolute basics nailed down too before you can be trusted to play.

JimmyRobbo · Post by **JimmyRobbo** » Sat Nov 11, 2023 4:33 pm

Can someone's mum tie his shoe-laces for him?

HahaYeah · Post by **HahaYeah** » Sat Nov 11, 2023 4:33 pm

Typical arsenal fanny can't tie his laces.

Kilson810 · Post by **Kilson810** » Sat Nov 11, 2023 4:34 pm

willsclarets wrote: ↑
Sat Nov 11, 2023 4:27 pm
One thing to mention is I don't think muric saves that effort from saka first half onto the bar.

Possibly true, but it's less embarrassing to see them go in than watching Trafford get bullied all over his box time and again.

IanMcL · Post by **IanMcL** » Sat Nov 11, 2023 4:34 pm

Jamesy wrote: ↑
Sat Nov 11, 2023 4:30 pm
How can you say that when you don’t know? I have been quite restrained about Trafford thus far, however I have now got to say Vincent’s stubbornness in keep selecting him will result in relegation. Muric not even on bench today.

He is on international duty.

Muric is a very good shot stopper. His weakness eas beong a softie on his goal line from corners. He got much better late on in the season.

spt_claret · Post by **spt_claret** » Sat Nov 11, 2023 4:34 pm

We need to get some subs on. Jay and Johann are leggy.
But it'll be Amdouni and Koleosho who make way first.

IanMcL · Post by **IanMcL** » Sat Nov 11, 2023 4:35 pm

Shitbumbuggerbugget

tally · Post by **tally** » Sat Nov 11, 2023 4:35 pm

good goal that one

jojomk1 · Post by **jojomk1** » Sat Nov 11, 2023 4:35 pm

Brownhill marking Saliba at the corner ?

Taffy on the wing · Post by **Taffy on the wing** » Sat Nov 11, 2023 4:35 pm

What a joke!

ElectroClaret · Post by **ElectroClaret** » Sat Nov 11, 2023 4:35 pm

THEWELLERNUT70 wrote: ↑
Sat Nov 11, 2023 4:31 pm
Muric was unavailable today because of international duty I think

Got to go straight back in when he's back.

Darthlaw · Post by **Darthlaw** » Sat Nov 11, 2023 4:35 pm

Trafford deserves some time off as the pressure is now really starting to tell. Can't be easy when the pressure is even there from a section of your own 'fans', keen to blame all goals on you.

I see one of our own is keen to get 'calamity' to stick again, too.

tally · Post by **tally** » Sat Nov 11, 2023 4:35 pm

tomming time for us

Superjohnnyfrancis · Post by **Superjohnnyfrancis** » Sat Nov 11, 2023 4:35 pm

What an embarrassment he is

Casper2 · Post by **Casper2** » Sat Nov 11, 2023 4:35 pm

Trafford has to be dropped, weak , weak , weak

jos · Post by **jos** » Sat Nov 11, 2023 4:36 pm

Rats 3-1

tally · Post by **tally** » Sat Nov 11, 2023 4:36 pm

think we may concede another 2 now