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The only way is up

Post by Shaggy » Sun Nov 12, 2023 3:54 pm

That’s us now bottom of the league.. the only way is up.

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Re: The only way is up

Post by Woodleyclaret » Sun Nov 12, 2023 3:59 pm

Two bad results for teams you would expect to win in Newcastle and Brighton we now need to win our next games.

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Re: The only way is up

Post by AGENT_CLARET » Sun Nov 12, 2023 4:02 pm

Woodleyclaret wrote:
Sun Nov 12, 2023 3:59 pm
Two bad results for teams you would expect to win in Newcastle and Brighton we now need to win our next games.
We now need to win or draw full stop

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Re: The only way is up

Post by Shaggy » Sun Nov 12, 2023 4:03 pm

6 defeats in a row aswell.

I think we are only a few games away from the serious question put to VK.

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Re: The only way is up

Post by Superjohnnyfrancis » Sun Nov 12, 2023 4:06 pm

Shaggy wrote:
Sun Nov 12, 2023 4:03 pm
6 defeats in a row aswell.

I think we are only a few games away from the serious question put to VK.
It’s an exciting project apparently 🙈
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Re: The only way is up

Post by AGENT_CLARET » Sun Nov 12, 2023 4:07 pm

Superjohnnyfrancis wrote:
Sun Nov 12, 2023 4:06 pm
It’s an exciting project apparently 🙈
It's a stubborn project
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Re: The only way is up

Post by FCBurnley » Sun Nov 12, 2023 4:08 pm

Not hearing many words of encouragement from Pace !

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Re: The only way is up

Post by Superjohnnyfrancis » Sun Nov 12, 2023 4:08 pm

AGENT_CLARET wrote:
Sun Nov 12, 2023 4:07 pm
It's a stubborn project
Its a “bury your head in the sand, im Always right”, project 🙈😂
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Re: The only way is up

Post by Corky » Sun Nov 12, 2023 4:10 pm

Otis Clay will be turning in his grave.

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Re: The only way is up

Post by Superjohnnyfrancis » Sun Nov 12, 2023 4:11 pm

FCBurnley wrote:
Sun Nov 12, 2023 4:08 pm
Not hearing many words of encouragement from Pace !
I’m hoping he’s as worried as most of the fans on here!

Not many businesses can afford their manager to completely run something into the ground without repercussions.

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Re: The only way is up

Post by NewClaret » Sun Nov 12, 2023 4:13 pm

Superjohnnyfrancis wrote:
Sun Nov 12, 2023 4:11 pm
I’m hoping he’s as worried as most of the fans on here!

Not many businesses can afford their manager to completely run something into the ground without repercussions.
I assume by run in to the ground you mean get relegated?

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Re: The only way is up

Post by Carlos the Great » Sun Nov 12, 2023 4:16 pm

NewClaret wrote:
Sun Nov 12, 2023 4:13 pm
I assume by run in to the ground you mean get relegated?
There should be pressure on VK to get results having spent so much money… if we were happy to come bottomWe could have saved 100 million in transfers
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Re: The only way is up

Post by Superjohnnyfrancis » Sun Nov 12, 2023 4:20 pm

NewClaret wrote:
Sun Nov 12, 2023 4:13 pm
I assume by run in to the ground you mean get relegated?
It has the feel of a very expensive jumbo jet filled with priceless works of art that is nose diving towards the runway but the captain says the plane is level and not under any imminent danger.
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Re: The only way is up

Post by ksrclaret » Sun Nov 12, 2023 4:23 pm

Carlos the Great wrote:
Sun Nov 12, 2023 4:16 pm
There should be pressure on VK to get results having spent so much money… if we were happy to come bottomWe could have saved 100 million in transfers
A sobering point.

The idea being floated that relegation is fine and all part of a plan in which we acquire players like Trafford and Tresor £15m+ each is genuinely the biggest load of nonsense I've read on here.
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Re: The only way is up

Post by NewClaret » Sun Nov 12, 2023 4:24 pm

Superjohnnyfrancis wrote:
Sun Nov 12, 2023 4:20 pm
It has the feel of a very expensive jumbo jet filled with priceless works of art that is nose diving towards the runway but the captain says the plane is level and not under any imminent danger.
That doesn’t really answer my question. Is it relegation that you feel is running the club in to the ground?

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Re: The only way is up

Post by Carlos the Great » Sun Nov 12, 2023 4:25 pm

I hope VK can change things around .:: and quickly … nobody is immune to being replaced … if we don’t
win before Xmas I’m convinced he will be replaced .. Pace has backed VK heavily ..he won’t want to come crashing out of the premier league and the fact we don’t look at all like not conceding must be a worry ..VK doesn’t want to change but he is gong to have to change something

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Re: The only way is up

Post by AGENT_CLARET » Sun Nov 12, 2023 4:27 pm

Carlos the Great wrote:
Sun Nov 12, 2023 4:25 pm
I hope VK can change things around .:: and quickly … nobody is immune to being replaced … if we don’t
win before Xmas I’m convinced he will be replaced .. Pace has backed VK heavily ..he won’t want to come crashing out of the premier league and the fact we don’t look at all like not conceding must be a worry ..VK doesn’t want to change but he is gong to have to change something
I can't see us winning again in 2023

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Re: The only way is up

Post by Woodleyclaret » Sun Nov 12, 2023 4:28 pm

We need a striker and a tough tackling cb and cm in the window
We need Churlinov sold if he's not getting played

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Re: The only way is up

Post by Superjohnnyfrancis » Sun Nov 12, 2023 4:31 pm

Carlos the Great wrote:
Sun Nov 12, 2023 4:16 pm
There should be pressure on VK to get results having spent so much money… if we were happy to come bottomWe could have saved 100 million in transfers
Here you go Vinny have another £100m see how many wingers you can buy 🙈😂
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Re: The only way is up

Post by AGENT_CLARET » Sun Nov 12, 2023 4:31 pm

FCBurnley wrote:
Sun Nov 12, 2023 4:08 pm
Not hearing many words of encouragement from Pace !
He's not posted anything on Twitter (X) Since the day after we beat Luton

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Re: The only way is up

Post by Superjohnnyfrancis » Sun Nov 12, 2023 4:32 pm

Carlos the Great wrote:
Sun Nov 12, 2023 4:25 pm
I hope VK can change things around .:: and quickly … nobody is immune to being replaced … if we don’t
win before Xmas I’m convinced he will be replaced .. Pace has backed VK heavily ..he won’t want to come crashing out of the premier league and the fact we don’t look at all like not conceding must be a worry ..VK doesn’t want to change but he is gong to have to change something
The only person who looks like he can change his thinking is Pace.

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Re: The only way is up

Post by AGENT_CLARET » Sun Nov 12, 2023 4:32 pm

Woodleyclaret wrote:
Sun Nov 12, 2023 4:28 pm
We need a striker and a tough tackling cb and cm in the window
We need Churlinov sold if he's not getting played
We need Kompany to take the blindfold off

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Re: The only way is up

Post by GodIsADeeJay81 » Sun Nov 12, 2023 4:48 pm

Superjohnnyfrancis wrote:
Sun Nov 12, 2023 4:31 pm
Here you go Vinny have another £100m see how many wingers you can buy 🙈😂
Attacking players tend to sell for more money

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Re: The only way is up

Post by GodIsADeeJay81 » Sun Nov 12, 2023 4:49 pm

Shaggy wrote:
Sun Nov 12, 2023 4:03 pm
6 defeats in a row aswell.

I think we are only a few games away from the serious question put to VK.
You wanted a different style of football from the previous manager, you should be happy tbh
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Re: The only way is up

Post by BabylonClaret » Sun Nov 12, 2023 4:52 pm

Tbf we just played Arsenal and did pretty well for most if it - we kept the same side and looked more solid. All that's happening now is tat those teams that didn't **** about with their sides too much are learning a grabbing points here and there.

The time for worrying about stubbornness and dropping was a few games against whe we were getting rinsed by Brentford - you can't expect the side to turn round against Arsenal away when we are missing our only proper Premier league finisher

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Re: The only way is up

Post by getbennyon » Sun Nov 12, 2023 4:56 pm

Vinny is a lot closer to the door than many on here realise.

Whilst many on here think it's a straightforward case of getting relegated, reset and them coming straight back I can assure you that the owners think very, very differently. Burnley Football Club is a business and never more so than now under the Pace regime, the current model isn't sustainable and can't go on for much longer.

If you remove emotion, Vinny will be lucky to still be here in December if we carry on losing, zero chance of being here at Christmas etc.

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Re: The only way is up

Post by Swizzlestick » Sun Nov 12, 2023 4:59 pm

getbennyon wrote:
Sun Nov 12, 2023 4:56 pm
Vinny is a lot closer to the door than many on here realise.

Whilst many on here think it's a straightforward case of getting relegated, reset and them coming straight back I can assure you that the owners think very, very differently. Burnley Football Club is a business and never more so than now under the Pace regime, the current model isn't sustainable and can't go on for much longer.

If you remove emotion, Vinny will be lucky to still be here in December if we carry on losing, zero chance of being here at Christmas etc.
I think a good number of us aware that VK will be, at the very least, under a lot of scrutiny if we don't pick up points against West Ham and Sheffield United.

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Re: The only way is up

Post by evensteadiereddie » Sun Nov 12, 2023 5:04 pm

Scrutiny, maybe.
He's going nowhere.

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Re: The only way is up

Post by Quickenthetempo » Sun Nov 12, 2023 5:18 pm

A few sides have conceded on the stroke of halftime this weekend, not just us who couldn't see the half out.

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Re: The only way is up

Post by BabylonClaret » Sun Nov 12, 2023 5:22 pm

Quickenthetempo wrote:
Sun Nov 12, 2023 5:18 pm
A few sides have conceded on the stroke of halftime this weekend, not just us who couldn't see the half out.
What's that got to do with anything?

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Re: The only way is up

Post by Quickenthetempo » Sun Nov 12, 2023 6:40 pm

BabylonClaret wrote:
Sun Nov 12, 2023 5:22 pm
What's that got to do with anything?
Just thought it was a positive.

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Re: The only way is up

Post by alwaysaclaret » Sun Nov 12, 2023 7:01 pm

Not with this goalkeeper I'm afraid.

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Re: The only way is up

Post by willsclarets » Sun Nov 12, 2023 8:12 pm

Utterly pointless getting rid of Kompany at this point, from a footballing and business pov. With this group of players he's assembled, he's both the most likely manager to keep us up, or bring us back up.

6 months ago he was the next big thing, sure to be a man city manager. Now he's out of hid depth. If Pace has any sense he won't have gotten too carried away with our success at a lower level. And he won't suddenly abandon a longer term project after 12 league games.

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Re: The only way is up

Post by Superjohnnyfrancis » Sun Nov 12, 2023 8:16 pm

Pace must think he is jinxed, as soon as he hands a manager a longer term contract there is a massive downturn in performance.
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Re: The only way is up

Post by ashtonlongsider » Sun Nov 12, 2023 8:23 pm

I think we've shown genuine signs of improvement over the last few games. In VK we have one of the most astute and special young managers in the game and I for one feel privileged that he's our's and long may it continue. The opposing manager who he embraced yesterday was under severe pressure little over 12 months ago and look how he's turned Arsenal around with his belief's. I think we're heading in the right direction and in all honesty aren't far short. No need for panic.
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Re: The only way is up

Post by ClaretOfMancunia » Sun Nov 12, 2023 8:29 pm

Far too much pant-wetting here of late.

Pace is a shrewd businessman. There's no way he would have renewed VK for another 5 years if he wasn't planning to keep him on in the event of relegation.

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Re: The only way is up

Post by JR1882 » Sun Nov 12, 2023 8:30 pm

Up automatically next season hopefully. Already 2 wins from safety without being able to see where a win may remotely come from. We are going to be cut adrift in a few weeks I fear.

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Re: The only way is up

Post by ClaretPete001 » Sun Nov 12, 2023 9:36 pm

ClaretOfMancunia wrote:
Sun Nov 12, 2023 8:29 pm
Far too much pant-wetting here of late.

Pace is a shrewd businessman. There's no way he would have renewed VK for another 5 years if he wasn't planning to keep him on in the event of relegation.
He gave Dyche an expensive four year contract before sacking him Mr Mancunia thee memory is as short as Wiggin Pier.

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Re: The only way is up

Post by Vim Fuego » Sun Nov 12, 2023 11:04 pm

The OP is incorrect - We could also go the other way --- DOWN

And with the ALK debt we have we could go down down, deeper and down

Let us hope we don't. Some good signs in the last game but multiple problems for VK to solve

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Re: The only way is up

Post by mybloodisclaret » Mon Nov 13, 2023 12:00 am

Shaggy wrote:
Sun Nov 12, 2023 3:54 pm
That’s us now bottom of the league.. the only way is up.
Serious question. Do you not like managers? You were completely nauseating about Dyche and now you are going for Kompany. Weird fan/poster.

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Re: The only way is up

Post by Quicknick » Mon Nov 13, 2023 2:32 am

mybloodisclaret wrote:
Mon Nov 13, 2023 12:00 am
Serious question. Do you not like managers? You were completely nauseating about Dyche and now you are going for Kompany. Weird fan/poster.
What did he say wrong in that post?

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