Anass Zaroury

[Woodleyclaret]

Much has been written on Lyle Foster and his issues but what's the issue with Anass ?
One of the best players I've seen for many years yet seems sidelined in team selection

[Fretters]

I was only thinking this morning of his performance at Bournemouth in the FA cup. Two goals away to a team in the league above. Barely a sniff this season, it really makes no sense.

[Ampth7]

Much has been written on Lyle Foster and his issues but what's the issue with Anass ?
One of the best players I've seen for many years yet seems sidelined in team selection

I think it might be as simple as he is finding the jump up in class a huge leap much like several others in our squad at present!

A season in the Championship and another in the Belgian Pro League are not good yard sticks for measuring your ability when compared to the best league in the world.

I’m also not sure he’s quick enough over the first 5-10 yards which you have to be playing out wide in this league.

[NewClaret]

Personally thought he was really poor post World Cup. Clearly very talented but was anonymous in a lot of games and very wasteful.

Then against Bournemouth in the league also very poor.

One to keep working with but saw on insta this morning that he’s doing extra sessions with a private coach which is amazing to see. Great attitude.

[Florian]

Zarorys better than the ones that play tho

[boatshed bill]

Zarorys better than the ones that play tho

Obviously not (at present).

[fidelcastro]

Zarorys better than the ones that play tho

Just about everyone on here was calling for him to be picked before the Bournemouth game. He was picked and he was garbage.

It's a classic case of a player becoming a better player in fans' eyes when he's out of the side. Cork is the latest example.

[daveisaclaret]

Imagine posting on here in May that Zaroury wouldn't be good enough for the Prem and wouldn't get into our team. And yet one Premier League start later and it's just seen as a casual remark that he's not up to it.

[fidelcastro]

Imagine posting on here in May that Zaroury wouldn't be good enough for the Prem and wouldn't get into our team. And yet one Premier League start later and it's just seen as a casual remark that he's not up to it.

As others have said, he hasn't played well since returning from the World Cup. Suggesting (and only suggesting) he isn't PL standard isn't the most outrageous statement.

[bobinho]

Just about everyone on here was calling for him to be picked before the Bournemouth game. He was picked and he was garbage.

It's a classic case of a player becoming a better player in fans' eyes when he's out of the side. Cork is the latest example.

Cork ISN’T the latest example. Cork has always been a very decent player, even when he was out of the side under the previous manager. He’s proved how technically excellent and intelligent he is over and over by coming back into the side and improving us every single time.

It may be a step too far for him to be great for a whole season now, but people are saying he’s a good player for a reason. He is.

[HuncoatClaret]

After Christmas last season nearly every team were doubling up on Zaroury. Has anyone on here got the stats for how many assists and goals he had for us after the world cup?
Some people on here need to cut the lad a bit of slack, he's had 1 start. He's an unbelievable prospect and hopefully still has a massive future at the club

[willsclarets]

He's unfortunate that one of our only performers in the final third so far has been koleosho on the left. He also has tresor to deal with who is best that side (though hasn't shown it thus far. And then there's Larsen. Ridiculous state of affairs as discussed many times but it's a problem for him.

[Cirrus_Minor]

I think having Maatsen on the same wing last season helped him a lot. Not sure if that explains his perceived lack of form after the world Cup. There is definitely talent in him, maybe the step up has dented his confidence, but I doubt we have seen the back of him just yet.

[Westleigh]

Hasn’t help VK trying him in midfield.

[boatshed bill]

Hasn’t help VK trying him in midfield.

Hasn't done any harm though, has it?

[CoolClaret]

Some of the attitude people on here have of players that have done really well for us is rather shocking

[NewClaret]

I think having Maatsen on the same wing last season helped him a lot. Not sure if that explains his perceived lack of form after the world Cup. There is definitely talent in him, maybe the step up has dented his confidence, but I doubt we have seen the back of him just yet.

He’s definitely not done with us yet. A great talent on a long term deal. Just not in form currently and as willsclaret rightly points out, unlucky that Koleosho has been our outstanding performer.

[boatshed bill]

He’s definitely not done with us yet. A great talent on a long term deal. Just not in form currently and as willsclaret rightly points out, unlucky that Koleosho has been our outstanding performer.

The comment about him being played in midfield is interesting. He did really well in a fwd midfield position (though it wasn't against PL opposition).
I think it shows that VK has far from written him off, but maybe sees him in a different role eventually.

[Bordeauxclaret]

Just about everyone on here was calling for him to be picked before the Bournemouth game. He was picked and he was garbage.

It's a classic case of a player becoming a better player in fans' eyes when he's out of the side. Cork is the latest example.

I’m not sure that’s the case. He was an integral part of a team that went on an incredible run in the second half of last season.
To bring him back in for 68 mins and then discard him again seems very strange to me.

[dougcollins]

Cork ISN’T the latest example. Cork has always been a very decent player, even when he was out of the side under the previous manager. He’s proved how technically excellent and intelligent he is over and over by coming back into the side and improving us every single time.

It may be a step too far for him to be great for a whole season now, but people are saying he’s a good player for a reason. He is.

I was about to say exactly the same. You know exactly what to expect from Cork, nobody has attempted to elevate him to a player that he isn't.

I've noticed all the players with ex prem experience have handled this season better, they all now how to play the refs, win free kicks and some other basic stuff that the new lads don't have.

[NewClaret]

The comment about him being played in midfield is interesting. He did really well in a fwd midfield position (though it wasn't against PL opposition).
I think it shows that VK has far from written him off, but maybe sees him in a different role eventually.

Possibly. He’s a real tricky customer but maybe lacks the raw pace of someone like Koleosho that you need to succeed in wide positions in the Prem.

[dougcollins]

Zaroury just had a really bad start with the sending off and the three game ban. I don't think he's quite recovered from that, it certainly shunted him down the order.

[CoolClaret]

Zaroury just had a really bad start with the sending off and the three game ban. I don't think he's quite recovered from that, it certainly shunted him down the order.

He should have started that game.

So should Muric, so should Ekdal and you could make an argument for Cork.

I’ll accept that Brownhill/Benson weren’t fully fit.

[boatshed bill]

Ekdal was injured.
Muric has (according to Lowbank Claret) committed an offence so heinous that it is not allowed to be mentioned.
Cork's yellow card record in the Championship suggests he'd be a bit of a liability in the PL.

[DCWat]

He does lack a bit of pace, but he has the talent to make that less of an issue. I’m still hopeful that he’ll do well at this level.

Benson is more of a concern - he has the skills, pace and ability. He just seems to either be made of glass or perhaps a bit to ready to succumb to minor niggles.

[CoolClaret]

Ekdal was injured.
Muric has (according to Lowbank Claret) committed an offence so heinous that it is not allowed to be mentioned.
Cork's yellow card record in the Championship suggests he'd be a bit of a liability in the PL.

The point being you don’t make wholesale changes after promotion.

Ekdal wasn’t injured the first game week either. He got injured at Forest.

Muric has done nothing of the sort unless you’re the type that believes the earth is flat

[Florian]

Obviously not (at present).

In my eyes. He is

[Florian]

Just about everyone on here was calling for him to be picked before the Bournemouth game. He was picked and he was garbage.

It's a classic case of a player becoming a better player in fans' eyes when he's out of the side. Cork is the latest example.

He needs a run of games not 1 appearance

[boatshed bill]

The point being you don’t make wholesale changes after promotion.

Ekdal wasn’t injured the first game week either. He got injured at Forest.

Muric has done nothing of the sort unless you’re the type that believes the earth is flat

Well 6 changes were not entirely under our control for starters.
And another was Barnes who first of all wanted a 2 year contract.... and can you imagine Ashley Barnes with the current state of VAR... games would be 2 hours long and all our goals would be disallowed

[Woodleyclaret]

Re Bashley imo he was what we needed in the 3 games we rolled over in Bournemouth Brentford and Palace all winnable games where we neeed a battler up front.

[fidelcastro]

It may be a step too far for him to be great for a whole season now, but people are saying he’s a good player for a reason. He is.

He wasn't two years ago at this level.

[HuncoatClaret]

So now according to some he lacks pace. If you're as two footed and as direct as Anass, you don't have to have electrifying speed.
It was good enough for Super Taff.

[fidelcastro]

I’m not sure that’s the case. He was an integral part of a team that went on an incredible run in the second half of last season.
To bring him back in for 68 mins and then discard him again seems very strange to me.

I'm sure he'll get his fair share of games, but with the amount of wide players we now have, you wonder if it'll be a consistent run of consecutive appearances.

The decision to stockpile the squad with wide players is the most baffling of all last window.

[Rileybobs]

Does Vinny have beef with players who stupidly get themselves suspended? Zaroury has hardly had a kick and Roberts hasn’t had a minute since their suspensions. Foster does buck that trend of course.

[fidelcastro]

He needs a run of games not 1 appearance

So he should still be picked when he's not performing?

You have to take your opportunities when selected, especially when there are several others who can play in his position.

[Dark Cloud]

I don't think getting sent off in the first game helped him or his claims for the shirt (although imo it was a rather harsh dismissal)

[Carlos the Great]

He had a poor game at Bournemouth .:: so now we just leave him to rot ? :: if everyone who had a poor game got dropped we would be struggling to get a team out

[Goalposts]

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He had a poor game at Bournemouth .:: so now we just leave him to rot ? :: if everyone who had a poor game got dropped we would be struggling to get a team out

Remember some players are undroppable…

[warksclaret]

Many of our wide players need an extended run, but thats impossible as there are so many of them. We have played 12 games now but dont really know how good players like Tressor, Larsen, Redmond, Zarourry, Ramsey and a few more are going to be in this division

[dougcollins]

Does Vinny have beef with players who stupidly get themselves suspended? Zaroury has hardly had a kick and Roberts hasn’t had a minute since their suspensions. Foster does buck that trend of course.

I must have missed the Muric red card.

[boatshed bill]

Does Vinny have beef with players who stupidly get themselves suspended? Zaroury has hardly had a kick and Roberts hasn’t had a minute since their suspensions. Foster does buck that trend of course.

Didn't Maatsen go straight back in after one of the daftest sending off offences you could imagine?

[Carwin261]

Hasn't done any harm though, has it?

Won’t have helped his confidence playing out of position.

[boatshed bill]

Won’t have helped his confidence playing out of position.

Well, we can't know that for sure.
Would extending his contract damage his confidence?

[beddie]

I don't think getting sent off in the first game helped him or his claims for the shirt (although imo it was a rather harsh dismissal)

Probably not but in regards to the dismissal being rather harsh it was 100% correct. I think your opinion would have been a little different if it had been one of our players on the receiving end.

[Florian]

So he should still be picked when he's not performing?

You have to take your opportunities when selected, especially when there are several others who can play in his position.

He needs to play a run of games

[superdimitri]

We, as fans only see games. We don't see how he is training and his attitude.
Vinny will have his reasons that others are being chosen ahead of him, it could be down to mentality or performance in training. It could even be down to discipline.

[fidelcastro]

He needs to play a run of games

I'm sure every player thinks that.

[Wile E Coyote]

I was of the opinion he was one of the worlds greatest players last season, I thought we had unearthed a diamond.
He is involved in another world now, a failing squad, and constant losses, but I think his time will come. And with it the team will move on successfully. He is a talented lad.

[jojomk1]

Many of our wide players need an extended run, but thats impossible as there are so many of them. We have played 12 games now but dont really know how good players like Tressor, Larsen, Redmond, Zarourry, Ramsey and a few more are going to be in this division

Exactly - a byproduct of our scattergun approach to recruitment this summer

Koleosho has looked promising so far, Odobert now being on the bench and given game time

It's almost like VK is trying to justify some of his summer signings at the expense of good players from last year such as Zaroury

Same with Tresor being favoured over Larsen - Tresor being a permanent (expensive) signing next summer whereas Larsen is just a loan.

Plus JBG is preferred to both !!

Ramsey also picked over Cork when he is fit

[willsclarets]

Exactly - a byproduct of our scattergun approach to recruitment this summer

Koleosho has looked promising so far, Odobert now being on the bench and given game time

It's almost like VK is trying to justify some of his summer signings at the expense of good players from last year such as Zaroury

Same with Tresor being favoured over Larsen - Tresor being a permanent (expensive) signing next summer whereas Larsen is just a loan.

Plus JBG is preferred to both !!

Ramsey also picked over Cork when he is fit

Does the fact JBG gets the nod not undermine that argument a little bit? Kompany wants to win games desperately, the omission of Cork and Zaroury isn't any indication of favouring expensive signings imo. In fact koleosho cost far less than tresor and is preferred. But the argument we spent far too much money on similar player profiles is nigh on undeniable