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If only we had a striker...

Post by CoolClaret » Sat Nov 18, 2023 9:02 pm

...that was capable of doing this:

https://x.com/TenHagBall_/status/172596 ... 91947?s=20

Of course Nathan Collins got burnt and Dara 'OShea was 10 yards off the action caught in two minds

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Re: If only we had a striker...

Post by beddie » Sat Nov 18, 2023 9:26 pm

What is it, it won’t open.

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Re: If only we had a striker...

Post by Stayingup » Sat Nov 18, 2023 9:37 pm

We have. But he's ill.

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Re: If only we had a striker...

Post by Funkydrummer » Sat Nov 18, 2023 9:40 pm

"Video removed in response to a report by the copyright holder"

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Re: If only we had a striker...

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Re: If only we had a striker...

Post by Jamesy » Sat Nov 18, 2023 9:44 pm

I would re title this thread to …… If only we had a goalkeeper.
I will batten down the hatches now! Goodnight guys.

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Re: If only we had a striker...

Post by Vim Fuego » Sat Nov 18, 2023 9:50 pm

If only we had a team was as good as the one we had last season
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Re: If only we had a striker...

Post by pauliopaulio » Sat Nov 18, 2023 9:51 pm

There’s obviously more to it behind the scenes but I cannot fathom why Weghorst was sent on loan leaving us with just 2 strikers.

Either its fear of us booing him, squad unpleasure with his return, or a falling out with Vinny. With hindsight (glorious thing) its another barmy decision in the summer #weallgotcarriedaway

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Re: If only we had a striker...

Post by Darnhill Claret » Sat Nov 18, 2023 9:59 pm

We'd already done the booing in pre-season. I believe the vast majority or maybe somewhere between 51% and 95% of supporters wanted him gone. Can't complain now.

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Re: If only we had a striker...

Post by Stayingup » Sat Nov 18, 2023 10:03 pm

pauliopaulio wrote:
Sat Nov 18, 2023 9:51 pm
There’s obviously more to it behind the scenes but I cannot fathom why Weghorst was sent on loan leaving us with just 2 strikers.

Either its fear of us booing him, squad unpleasure with his return, or a falling out with Vinny. With hindsight (glorious thing) its another barmy decision in the summer #weallgotcarriedaway
Perhaps he didn't want to be here.
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Re: If only we had a striker...

Post by CoolClaret » Sat Nov 18, 2023 10:06 pm

pauliopaulio wrote:
Sat Nov 18, 2023 9:51 pm
There’s obviously more to it behind the scenes but I cannot fathom why Weghorst was sent on loan leaving us with just 2 strikers.

Either its fear of us booing him, squad unpleasure with his return, or a falling out with Vinny. With hindsight (glorious thing) its another barmy decision in the summer #weallgotcarriedaway
Must have been part of the Jacob Brunn Larsen deal as well, with him coming from Hoffenheim.

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Re: If only we had a striker...

Post by Kilson810 » Sat Nov 18, 2023 11:17 pm

He couldn't fit his big head through the gates at Turf Moor.

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Re: If only we had a striker...

Post by Burnleyareback2 » Sun Nov 19, 2023 1:36 am

pauliopaulio wrote:
Sat Nov 18, 2023 9:51 pm
There’s obviously more to it behind the scenes but I cannot fathom why Weghorst was sent on loan leaving us with just 2 strikers.

Either its fear of us booing him, squad unpleasure with his return, or a falling out with Vinny. With hindsight (glorious thing) its another barmy decision in the summer #weallgotcarriedaway
Probably down to weird fans wanting him away from Burnley
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Re: If only we had a striker...

Post by Jakubclaret » Sun Nov 19, 2023 2:23 am

Burnleyareback2 wrote:
Sun Nov 19, 2023 1:36 am
Probably down to weird fans wanting him away from Burnley
You could argue he wanted himself away. He didn’t fit in from day 1 whoever sanctioned that signing the fault lies.

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Re: If only we had a striker...

Post by beddie » Sun Nov 19, 2023 8:04 am

I still don’t know what this is about. Could someone enlighten me. Neither of the videos will open.

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Re: If only we had a striker...

Post by CoolClaret » Sun Nov 19, 2023 8:26 am

beddie wrote:
Sun Nov 19, 2023 8:04 am
I still don’t know what this is about. Could someone enlighten me. Neither of the videos will open.
https://youtu.be/LiCJVIGKiyw?si=VS-XSUGIsW1On84c

Wout Weghorst bagged against Ireland after turning Nathan Collins and blasted it in.

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Re: If only we had a striker...

Post by BleedingClaret » Sun Nov 19, 2023 8:26 am

It will be a clip of Weghorst scoring for Holland last night

Beaten to it as post above

That was a good goal

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Re: If only we had a striker...

Post by beddie » Sun Nov 19, 2023 9:11 am

Thanks CoolClaret and BleedingClaret. Blimey some turn and goal.

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Re: If only we had a striker...

Post by evensteadiereddie » Sun Nov 19, 2023 9:18 am

If only we had fans who could stop whining about where we are and consider the bigger, long - term picture.
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Re: If only we had a striker...

Post by Nonayforever » Sun Nov 19, 2023 9:22 am

No denying it, top class goal.

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Re: If only we had a striker...

Post by BurnleyFC » Sun Nov 19, 2023 9:48 am

Nonayforever wrote:
Sun Nov 19, 2023 9:22 am
No denying it, top class goal.
Burnley-esque defending too.

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Re: If only we had a striker...

Post by durhamclaret » Sun Nov 19, 2023 10:13 am

Sign him on, oh hang on.

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Re: If only we had a striker...

Post by Dinks » Sun Nov 19, 2023 10:23 am

Jamesy wrote:
Sat Nov 18, 2023 9:44 pm
I would re title this thread to …… If only we had a goalkeeper.
I will batten down the hatches now! Goodnight guys.
Give it a rest please.

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Re: If only we had a striker...

Post by spt_claret » Sun Nov 19, 2023 10:47 am

evensteadiereddie wrote:
Sun Nov 19, 2023 9:18 am
If only we had fans who could stop whining about where we are and consider the bigger, long - term picture.
Because Rodriguez represents the long term picture better than Weghorst?
I fully agree with moving him on if he or the players were refusing to coexist but we saw no sign of that in the brief return to training and I do think the fan rejection to him was blinkered and stupid. I know we have Obafemi but he was injured in the summer and as soon as that happened, if we weren't keeping Wout we had to get someone in as the backup, nobody could predict Foster's trouble but that's why you have backup strikers.
No long term picture has the 2nd choice striker as a 34 year old who's scored 3 goals in his last 70 at this level, no matter how much Jay loves the club or works hard.

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Re: If only we had a striker...

Post by Jakubclaret » Sun Nov 19, 2023 10:52 am

Nonayforever wrote:
Sun Nov 19, 2023 9:22 am
No denying it, top class goal.
For me there’s never been a question of him having some sort of quality in his locker it’s when he chooses to show it & allegedly/supposedly the reason why CR was gobbing off at him.

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Re: If only we had a striker...

Post by daveisaclaret » Sun Nov 19, 2023 10:53 am

Weghorst is cack. Dyche didn't want him, Jackson didn't want him, Kompany didn't want him. Scored goals for us in the Prem at about the same rate as Nathan Collins who gave him the 50 yards of space he needs to do something for his goal last night. And then did much worse in a much better team.

We should have signed a striker to back up Foster, but this waster isn't it. Jay criticised above for 3 in his last 70 but Weghorst will retire with 2 in 37 in the Premier League.

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Re: If only we had a striker...

Post by Buxtonclaret » Sun Nov 19, 2023 10:54 am

Reckon he was trying to cross it & got it wrong. ;)

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Re: If only we had a striker...

Post by CoolClaret » Sun Nov 19, 2023 11:01 am

Thread was a little tongue in cheek but weg woud have been a much better foil for our style of play than what we’ve seen so far.

He looked like he was going to be a key player in preseason for us.

Much better player than some give credit for on here that’s for sure.

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Re: If only we had a striker...

Post by Kilson810 » Sun Nov 19, 2023 11:06 am

I would fancy us to stay up if we were playing teams of Ireland's quality every week.

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Re: If only we had a striker...

Post by KRBFC » Sun Nov 19, 2023 11:26 am

Darnhill Claret wrote:
Sat Nov 18, 2023 9:59 pm
We'd already done the booing in pre-season. I believe the vast majority or maybe somewhere between 51% and 95% of supporters wanted him gone. Can't complain now.
This, the fans got what they wanted, Wout gone

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Re: If only we had a striker...

Post by KRBFC » Sun Nov 19, 2023 11:28 am

daveisaclaret wrote:
Sun Nov 19, 2023 10:53 am
Weghorst is cack. Dyche didn't want him, Jackson didn't want him, Kompany didn't want him. Scored goals for us in the Prem at about the same rate as Nathan Collins who gave him the 50 yards of space he needs to do something for his goal last night. And then did much worse in a much better team.

We should have signed a striker to back up Foster, but this waster isn't it. Jay criticised above for 3 in his last 70 but Weghorst will retire with 2 in 37 in the Premier League.
2 in 37 is surely better than 3 in 70?

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Re: If only we had a striker...

Post by CoolClaret » Sun Nov 19, 2023 11:28 am

Kilson810 wrote:
Sun Nov 19, 2023 11:06 am
I would fancy us to stay up if we were playing teams of Ireland's quality every week.
I mean.. Two (three when Obafemi is fully fit) of their starting lineup plays regularly for us...

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Re: If only we had a striker...

Post by daveisaclaret » Sun Nov 19, 2023 11:29 am

KRBFC wrote:
Sun Nov 19, 2023 11:28 am
2 in 37 is surely better than 3 in 70?
In the same way a kick to the shin is better than a kick to the goolies, yep.

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Re: If only we had a striker...

Post by KRBFC » Sun Nov 19, 2023 11:34 am

daveisaclaret wrote:
Sun Nov 19, 2023 11:29 am
In the same way a kick to the shin is better than a kick to the goolies, yep.
To be fair though Weghorsts game isn’t just goals, I think he had some good assists. 2 goals 3 assists in like 14 starts for us?

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Re: If only we had a striker...

Post by Rileybobs » Sun Nov 19, 2023 11:35 am

Obviously having Weghorst in our squad would make us stronger. Stupid to argue otherwise.
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Re: If only we had a striker...

Post by boatshed bill » Sun Nov 19, 2023 11:37 am

CoolClaret wrote:
Sun Nov 19, 2023 8:26 am
https://youtu.be/LiCJVIGKiyw?si=VS-XSUGIsW1On84c

Wout Weghorst bagged against Ireland after turning Nathan Collins and blasted it in.

Poor goalkeeping.

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Re: If only we had a striker...

Post by daveisaclaret » Sun Nov 19, 2023 11:40 am

KRBFC wrote:
Sun Nov 19, 2023 11:34 am
To be fair though Weghorsts game isn’t just goals, I think he had some good assists. 2 goals 3 assists in like 14 starts for us?
He had the great assist for Jay Rod v Manchester United, and then proceeded to do largely f all more. We've all seen him play football, all seen no Burnley manager actually want him, if you conclude from all that that he isn't properly **** then that's fine but I'm choosing to trust my eyes.

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Re: If only we had a striker...

Post by boatshed bill » Sun Nov 19, 2023 11:54 am

daveisaclaret wrote:
Sun Nov 19, 2023 11:40 am
He had the great assist for Jay Rod v Manchester United, and then proceeded to do largely f all more. We've all seen him play football, all seen no Burnley manager actually want him, if you conclude from all that that he isn't properly **** then that's fine but I'm choosing to trust my eyes.

Can we be sure that it's Weggie not wanting to play for Burnley rather than our managers not wanting him?

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Re: If only we had a striker...

Post by KRBFC » Sun Nov 19, 2023 11:54 am

daveisaclaret wrote:
Sun Nov 19, 2023 11:40 am
He had the great assist for Jay Rod v Manchester United, and then proceeded to do largely f all more. We've all seen him play football, all seen no Burnley manager actually want him, if you conclude from all that that he isn't properly **** then that's fine but I'm choosing to trust my eyes.
He squared the ball for Vydra to score the winner, I think against Wolves?

I thought he was brilliant in those home games against United and Spurs, worked himself into the ground and showed some brilliant work on the half way line.

I do agree his time here was pretty underwhelming, I don’t think he was anywhere near as bad as he’s made out to be though.

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Re: If only we had a striker...

Post by daveisaclaret » Sun Nov 19, 2023 11:58 am

boatshed bill wrote:
Sun Nov 19, 2023 11:54 am
Can we be sure that it's Weggie not wanting to play for Burnley rather than our managers not wanting him?
Dyche and Jackson both dropped him, guess we can't be sure on Kompany. But Kompany has signed a striker who is already clearly a hell of a lot better and this thread probably wouldn't have been made if he was available.

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Re: If only we had a striker...

Post by taio » Sun Nov 19, 2023 12:03 pm

Why would anyone a player who wouldn't want to be here...and that's before getting into how rubbish he is.

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Re: If only we had a striker...

Post by CoolClaret » Sun Nov 19, 2023 12:15 pm

daveisaclaret wrote:
Sun Nov 19, 2023 11:58 am
Dyche and Jackson both dropped him, guess we can't be sure on Kompany. But Kompany has signed a striker who is already clearly a hell of a lot better and this thread probably wouldn't have been made if he was available.
Lyle has a long way to go to make that claim imo but is showing signs that he can be a top player.

It’s not like we signed Weghorst when he was in his prime like.

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Re: If only we had a striker...

Post by daveisaclaret » Sun Nov 19, 2023 12:19 pm

CoolClaret wrote:
Sun Nov 19, 2023 12:15 pm
Lyle has a long way to go to make that claim imo but is showing signs that he can be a top player.

It’s not like we signed Weghorst when he was in his prime like.
Foster has scored more goals in 7 games for the team you've been slagging off all season than Weghorst scored in 20 games for us and 17 games for actual Manchester United.

We also signed Weghorst aged 29 in the season after his best ever season in Germany, what is it that makes it not his prime?

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Re: If only we had a striker...

Post by taio » Sun Nov 19, 2023 12:20 pm

CoolClaret wrote:
Sun Nov 19, 2023 12:15 pm
Lyle has a long way to go to make that claim imo but is showing signs that he can be a top player.

It’s not like we signed Weghorst when he was in his prime like.
Foster has already done more for us than Weghorst ever will

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Re: If only we had a striker...

Post by CoolClaret » Sun Nov 19, 2023 12:22 pm

daveisaclaret wrote:
Sun Nov 19, 2023 12:19 pm
Foster has scored more goals in 7 games for the team you've been slagging off all season than Weghorst scored in 20 games for us and 17 games for actual Manchester United.

We also signed Weghorst aged 29 in the season after his best ever season in Germany, what is it that makes it not his prime?
Hey I like Lyle I’m just saying Wout has more than just his more than his Burnley career. Scored over 150 career goals like which is a good 120+ more than Lyle.

Probably say more 26/27 for a Striker - 29 is just at the end of their prime I’d say (on average)… he probably lost half a yard which makes all the difference in this league.

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Re: If only we had a striker...

Post by CoolClaret » Sun Nov 19, 2023 12:24 pm

taio wrote:
Sun Nov 19, 2023 12:20 pm
Foster has already done more for us than Weghorst ever will
Yeah almost like I never claimed nor suggested that.

The reading comprehension on here is terrible.

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Re: If only we had a striker...

Post by daveisaclaret » Sun Nov 19, 2023 12:24 pm

CoolClaret wrote:
Sun Nov 19, 2023 12:22 pm
Hey I like Lyle I’m just saying Wout has more than just his more than his Burnley career. Scored over 150 career goals like which is a good 120+ more than Lyle.

Probably say more 26/27 for a Striker - 29 is just at the end of their prime I’d say (on average)… he probably lost half a yard which makes all the difference in this league.
Did you observe a difference in Wout between his 20 goal season in 2020/21 and his performances for us to say he's probably lost half a yard or have you just made it up?

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Re: If only we had a striker...

Post by taio » Sun Nov 19, 2023 12:28 pm

CoolClaret wrote:
Sun Nov 19, 2023 12:22 pm
Hey I like Lyle I’m just saying Wout has more than just his more than his Burnley career. Scored over 150 career goals like which is a good 120+ more than Lyle.

Probably say more 26/27 for a Striker - 29 is just at the end of their prime I’d say (on average)… he probably lost half a yard which makes all the difference in this league.
Couldn't care less what he's done elsewhere. He was useless here.

29 means end of their prime is utter nonsense

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Re: If only we had a striker...

Post by CoolClaret » Sun Nov 19, 2023 12:30 pm

daveisaclaret wrote:
Sun Nov 19, 2023 12:24 pm
Did you observe a difference in Wout between his 20 goal season in 2020/21 and his performances for us to say he's probably lost half a yard or have you just made it up?
Christ almighty are any suggestions allowed here? So bored of the ‘gotcha’ attempts.

Do players lose speed as they age? Yep… Would that be out of the realm to suggest a player that isn’t blessed with pace to begin with might lose a bit of acceleration from being younger to getting to the end of his prime? No…

150 plus career goals. Lyle has under 30.

Lyle has shown that he can be a PL striker - still has a long way to go to have had the career that Weghorst has had ffs

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Re: If only we had a striker...

Post by daveisaclaret » Sun Nov 19, 2023 12:31 pm

CoolClaret wrote:
Sun Nov 19, 2023 12:30 pm
Christ almighty are any suggestions allowed here? So bored of the ‘gotcha’ attempts.

Do players lose speed as they age? Yep… Would that be out of the realm to suggest a player that isn’t blessed with pace to begin with might lose a bit of acceleration from being younger to getting to the end of his prime? No…

150 plus career goals. Lyle has under 30.

Lyle has shown that he can be a PL striker - still has a long way to go to have had the career that Weghorst has had ffs
So you made it up. That's fine.

Lyle showing that he can be a PL striker obviously makes him better than Weghorst who has in two short stints shown that he really can't be.

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