North Macedonia v England

[Spijed]

Darko Churlinov on the bench.

[Spijed]

For those not aware, he's one of the numerous wingers we have at the club.

[Newcastleclaret93]

Pretty exciting England team tonight. Hoping for 4-5 goals

[Rileybobs]

Kane dropped. Is Southgate out of his mind?

[fidelcastro]

Kane dropped. Is Southgate out of his mind?

It's a dead rubber, but I think you probably knew that!

[boatshed bill]

It's a dead rubber, but I think you probably knew that!

So was the Malta game which surely would have been the obvious time to leave Kane out, perhaps try Watkins

[bfcjg]

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[Nori1958]

So was the Malta game which surely would have been the obvious time to leave Kane out, perhaps try Watkins

Not sure 90k fans would have put up with a B team

[fidelcastro]

So was the Malta game which surely would have been the obvious time to leave Kane out, perhaps try Watkins

Maybe the plan was to try Watkins against (slightly) tougher opposition.

Either way, it doesn't really matter.

[boatshed bill]

Not sure 90k fans would have put up with a B team

Why not? The A team could have been dismantled at half time for what it had done.

[Florian]

Be another snooze fest

[AfloatinClaret]

Never realised that Sideshow Bob was English

[Rileybobs]

Haha. Definite penalty.

[Rileybobs]

Why did they plough the pitch before kick off?

[CoolClaret]

Never realised that Sideshow Bob was English

Spanish and plays fullback for Chelsea I thought…

[Bosscat]

The wife just asked why Phil Foden has 47 tattooed under his ear ... I told her its his house number just in case he gets lost

[mikeS]

There seems to be more stewards than fans.

[Rileybobs]

Haha. What a joke.

[Rileybobs]

Imagine going to watch that incident in slow motion and thinking it was a penalty offence. Haha.

[PWBFC]

Ludicrous penalty decision.

[Goodclaret]

Haha. What a joke.

Just made up for his error a few minutes ago. That is never, ever a penalty but, as you said, that first one was.

[Newcastleclaret93]

Serious question why are referees just so unbelievably bad at there jobs?

[Rileybobs]

Pope would have caught that.

[fidelcastro]

Imagine going to watch that incident in slow motion and thinking it was a penalty offence. Haha.

Every day I like football less and less.

That decision is another reason why.

[KRBFC]

Ridiculous, seriously what has football become?

So predictable too, do referees just have no backbone? Every time they’re sent to the screen they fold like a deck chair and change their onfield decision. Are they admitting they’re useless or forced to fold?

[bumba]

That was never a penalty but think they realised they made a mistake by not giving the Maguire one so gave it.
Don't know what's worse these days though watching England be negative or Dion Dublin on commentary

[RVclaret]

Absolutely laughable decision. Seriously. Not a single player appealed for it.

Get. VAR. In. The. Bin.

[Bordeauxclaret]

They’ve got both penalty decisions wrong there.

[Colburn_Claret]

Never a pen, but Maguires was so it evens out.
England have been embarrassing, such great talent, such a crap team.
Thanks Gareth.

[Cirrus_Minor]

Poor decision but England should be already ahead against a poor side

[Buxtonclaret]

Another pathetic penalty decision that's infecting footy these days.

[Rileybobs]

Everything that is wrong with VAR there. As soon as he’s directed to view the monitor he’s in a pickle as he is under pressure to go with the advice in his ear. The system is so flawed. He seemed reluctant to give the penalty, which you can understand, as it’s impossible to come to the conclusion that it was one.

[Tricky Trevor]

Why can’t modern keepers make saves out to the touchline?
All of them just block it back to the 6yd line.
Crap, the lot of them.

Why did he only watch slo-mo reviews? At normal speed it wasn’t, in slo-mo possibly.

[Roosterbooster]

They’ve got both penalty decisions wrong there.

Spot on

I dont have the sound on, so wasn't sure what they were looking at. When I realised it was a foul I nearly fell off my chair. Bonkers decision

[Rileybobs]

Spot on

I dont have the sound on, so wasn't sure what they were looking at. When I realised it was a foul I nearly fell off my chair. Bonkers decision

I muted my tv too but I can still hear Dion Dublin.

[KRBFC]

Doesn’t help the fella in the VAR room is arguing why it should be a penalty. Slow motion looks worse every time.

You essentially have two people who have seen a situation differently, the one sat in the VAR room has more power to win the argument and simply more tools at his disposal (like manipulating replays by pausing the image with Lewis hand on his face so it’s the first thing the onfield referees sees) to win his argument.

[RVclaret]

Doesn’t help the fella in the VAR room is arguing why it should be a penalty. Slow motion looks worse every time.

You essentially have two people who have seen a situation differently, the one sat in the VAR room has more power to win the argument and simply more tools at his disposal (like manipulating replays by pausing the image with Lewis hand on his face so it’s the first thing the onfield referees sees) to win his argument.

Yup. Exact same happened with the Berge ‘handball’ at Forest.

[Spijed]

Let's not forget Maguire gave away a blatant penalty earlier that wasn't given. So it fairly balanced itself out in the end.

[Rileybobs]

Let's not forget Maguire gave away a blatant penalty earlier that wasn't given. So it fairly balanced itself out in the end.

Making two sh!t decisions is twice as bad as making one.

[TheFamilyCat]

Kane dropped. Is Southgate out of his mind?

He's on a yellow card from the Malta game.

[boatshed bill]

If Lewis' header had cleared the ball I don't think that penalty would have been given.
Still a bit soft, but the Maguire non-foul should have been a penalty

[Spijed]

Aside from the penalty, England have looked toothless without Kane.

[Vegas Claret]

Doesn’t help the fella in the VAR room is arguing why it should be a penalty. Slow motion looks worse every time.

You essentially have two people who have seen a situation differently, the one sat in the VAR room has more power to win the argument and simply more tools at his disposal (like manipulating replays by pausing the image with Lewis hand on his face so it’s the first thing the onfield referees sees) to win his argument.

I've (and others) have been saying for a good while that VAR should not be explaining anything to a ref. If the VAR thinks a decision is wrong then send a message to the watch that just informs them to check the screen. If the on field ref sees the clear and obvious error within 3 full speed replays then change the decision, if he doesn't then stick to their on field. VAR sucks balls because of the way they are using it

[Rileybobs]

He's on a yellow card from the Malta game.

Ah fair do’s, can’t afford for him to miss the final.

[bfcjg]

Who's put that porpoise on Joe Coles head?

[boatshed bill]

Aside from the penalty, England have looked toothless without Kane.

Watkins missed a sitter (header) early on which I'm sure Kane would have buried.

[RammyClaret61]

This isn’t football.

[Rileybobs]

Must have been some inspirational words by Southgate at half time.

[Rileybobs]

Looked off?

[MrTopTier]

POMO.