Sacking Kompany
Sacking Kompany
Sacking Kompany would be an absolute ludicrous decision. The board and the fans bought into his way of playing and have had more good times than bad. This seasons recruitment has been a disaster at best but we probably still have a team of walking the championship. If we have to take another step back to take two forward so be it.
If a different manager came in now with a different philosophy with these players it could spell long term disaster.
If a different manager came in now with a different philosophy with these players it could spell long term disaster.
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We need to give the ‘this team would walk the championship’ nonsense a rest. No way, with the current squad would we walk the championship.fanzone wrote: ↑Sat Nov 25, 2023 6:26 pmSacking Kompany would be an absolute ludicrous decision. The board and the fans bought into his way of playing and have had more good times than bad. This seasons recruitment has been a disaster at best but we probably still have a team of walking the championship. If we have to take another step back to take two forward so be it.
If a different manager came in now with a different philosophy with these players it could spell long term disaster.
Looking at this season’s championship, I’d be amazed if this squad would achieve automatic.
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Yes we would. The championship is weak as ****. The reality is that we are in the ghost league of the league inbetween premier and championship
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It's arrogant in the extreme to suggest we'd walk the championship with this squad.
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He won’t be sacked.
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We would get home wins for sure
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Its telling how many have thrown in the towel already yet theres more than half a season to try and stay up.
I dont think VK has it in him at this level unfortunately, lose against Shef utd and it could be the end for him I'd imagine.
I dont think VK has it in him at this level unfortunately, lose against Shef utd and it could be the end for him I'd imagine.
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I stick by the opinion that this squad is quite a bit stronger than last seasons.
Foster and Amdouni up top in that league?!
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Or we could make a miraculous escape, were only going one way at the moment.fanzone wrote: ↑Sat Nov 25, 2023 6:26 pmSacking Kompany would be an absolute ludicrous decision. The board and the fans bought into his way of playing and have had more good times than bad. This seasons recruitment has been a disaster at best but we probably still have a team of walking the championship. If we have to take another step back to take two forward so be it.
If a different manager came in now with a different philosophy with these players it could spell long term disaster.
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You can quibble about the phrasing but obviously VK and Burnley would be overwhelming favourites in the Championship.
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He reminds me of Daniel Farke - good for Championship, tactically too naive to manage in PL.
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I genuinely felt very sorry for Vincent and the team after today's performance, albeit against a poor West Ham team. But, too me, it's so obvious that we have made too many changes too soon after last season"s fabulous achievements. I really would like to know who authorised the recruitment during the summer...was it VK, the board, our recruitment team, if we have one. I said on here we would need two strong athletic midfielders and two PL-ready strikers to compete in the PL. Unfortunately someone gave the green light to signing a shed load of unexpierenced, light weight youngsters who have no clue about the PL. Berge has been a success, as has Koleosho, but other than these two we are depending on the old guard of Brownhill, JBG, Taylor, Jayrod, Roberts., who have all done okay. Having said that, we are now a team without leaders, know-how and understanding of game management.
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Keep the faith. I believe this is a stronger squad than last season and will continue to get better. 100% behind VK. UTC !
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Spot onVino blanco wrote: ↑Sat Nov 25, 2023 6:51 pmI genuinely felt very sorry for Vincent and the team after today's performance, albeit against a poor West Ham team. But, too me, it's so obvious that we have made too many changes too soon after last season"s fabulous achievements. I really would like to know who authorised the recruitment during the summer...was it VK, the board, our recruitment team, if we have one. I said on here we would need two strong athletic midfielders and two PL-ready strikers to compete in the PL. Unfortunately someone gave the green light to signing a shed load of unexpierenced, light weight youngsters who have no clue about the PL. Berge has been a success, as has Koleosho, but other than these two we are depending on the old guard of Brownhill, JBG, Taylor, Jayrod, Roberts., who have all done okay. Having said that, we are now a team without leaders, know-how and understanding of game management.
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We would though, arrogant or notfidelcastro wrote: ↑Sat Nov 25, 2023 6:31 pmIt's arrogant in the extreme to suggest we'd walk the championship with this squad.
Strong teams will get promoted, if we go down no big team is coming down with us..... So who's left who you'd fear?
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Can’t afford to fire VK even if Pace wanted to. Also can’t afford relegation. What a mess
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Please can anyone explain the logic that we’ll walk the Championship when, if things continue, there will be two better teams relegated with us?
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I think this squad might well struggle next season in the Championship.
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It's really not as simple that.
Firstly, there'd have to be a firesale, which would mean players being sold for a lot less than we'd previously hoped, and what confidence would the rest of the squad have having been relegated with possibly the lowest points total of any team in Premier League history?
Sure, new players would come in, but it's asking a lot for them all to perform to the standards that they did last season.
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I'm not saying it would be the right call but any manager who's in charge of a team that can't stop losing will soon find that his position is untenable.
The next few weeks are massive. He has to arrest this slump, somehow.
The next few weeks are massive. He has to arrest this slump, somehow.
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There won't be a firesale....fidelcastro wrote: ↑Sat Nov 25, 2023 7:08 pmIt's really not as simple that.
Firstly, there'd have to be a firesale, which would mean players being sold for a lot less than we'd previously hoped, and what confidence would the rest of the squad have having been relegated with possibly the lowest points total of any team in Premier League history?
Sure, new players would come in, but it's asking a lot for them all to perform to the standards that they did last season.
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I don’t buy the ‘walk the league’ stuff as it’s a bit of a silly term, but in my opinion this squad is better (more talented) than last seasons, needs confidence and time to settle, as well as young talent to develop. Also on your particular question about 2 better teams relegated, there’s just a few points in it right now with 25 games to go, so it feels a bit premature to say they are better than us (I’ll accept it at the end of the season if they both finish clear of us).
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Yes, we may very well finish above Sheff U and Luton, we can only go on what we’ve seen so far. But I haven’t seen anything to suggest we would walk the league ahead of them.RVclaret wrote: ↑Sat Nov 25, 2023 7:11 pmI don’t buy the ‘walk the league’ stuff as it’s a bit of a silly term, but in my opinion this squad is better (more talented) than last seasons, needs confidence and time to settle, as well as young talent to develop. Also on your particular question about 2 better teams relegated, there’s just a few points in it right now with 25 games to go, so it feels a bit premature to say they are better than us (I’ll accept it at the end of the season if they both finish clear of us).
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Anyone who says this squad is better than last seasons is talking nonsense in my opinion.
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There's team in the championship that would have more points than us this season in the prem
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He’s spent £100m, made the most monumental mess of a transfer window any of us have ever seen.
We can’t attack, we can’t defend.
There aren’t any “promising signs” of things moving in the right direction. “Playing well” doesn’t count as it’s not relevant when we throw 2+ goals away week after week.
The board are well within their rights to pot VK, there’s no evidence he has a clue what he’s doing.
Turf is flat, no one wanted to be there today.
We can’t attack, we can’t defend.
There aren’t any “promising signs” of things moving in the right direction. “Playing well” doesn’t count as it’s not relevant when we throw 2+ goals away week after week.
The board are well within their rights to pot VK, there’s no evidence he has a clue what he’s doing.
Turf is flat, no one wanted to be there today.
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If everything goes to Pace's plan for our club Kompany will bring this team up from the Championship next season as a really strong unit I look forward to it
Sacking him mid project isn't an option let the guy do his job and let's see what happens,I'm looking forward to it.
Sacking him mid project isn't an option let the guy do his job and let's see what happens,I'm looking forward to it.
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Sorry but can we please stop with this utter copium and delusion?Vincent'sCap wrote: ↑Sat Nov 25, 2023 7:17 pmIf everything goes to Pace's plan for our club Kompany will bring this team up from the Championship next season as a really strong unit I look forward to it
Sacking him mid project isn't an option let the guy do his job and let's see what happens,I'm looking forward to it.
It’s utterly embarrassing.
It actually sounds insane to a neutral you know? Complete fantasy land stuff.
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Can I ask what world people are living in where we finish above anyone?
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The only embarrassing thing is threads like this. They poster you have quoted is spot onCoolClaret wrote: ↑Sat Nov 25, 2023 7:24 pmSorry but can we please stop with this utter copium and delusion?
It’s utterly embarrassing.
It actually sounds insane to a neutral you know? Complete fantasy land stuff.
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Really shocked how lacking in football knowledge some of our fans are.
We had all this from Newcastle, raving about the quality of the champ
If fans can’t work out that:
Koleosho is levels above Zaroury.
Berge is the best midfielder we’ve had in years.
Amdouni is better than anything we had at 10 last year.
Our player of last season was coming off the bench today.
We’ll be frighteningly good in the Champ but not quite good enough for the PL yet. But whatever experience we gain between now & then will be useful.
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Would your boss let you under perform for so long after spending all his budget?Vincent'sCap wrote: ↑Sat Nov 25, 2023 7:17 pmIf everything goes to Pace's plan for our club Kompany will bring this team up from the Championship next season as a really strong unit I look forward to it
Sacking him mid project isn't an option let the guy do his job and let's see what happens,I'm looking forward to it.
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I doubt any of those would want to play in the championship when they are playing well in this league...NewClaret wrote: ↑Sat Nov 25, 2023 7:28 pmReally shocked how lacking in football knowledge some of our fans are.
We had all this from Newcastle, raving about the quality of the champ
If fans can’t work out that:
Koleosho is levels above Zaroury.
Berge is the best midfielder we’ve had in years.
Amdouni is better than anything we had at 10 last year.
Our player of last season was coming off the bench today.
We’ll be frighteningly good in the Champ but not quite good enough for the PL yet. But whatever experience we gain between now & then will be useful.
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May well do... But will still get relegated
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Tell me on what planet putting up historically bad numbers in the PL is, sanctioning 100+ mill of transfers then dropping back into the Championship on an absolute whimper part of any plan?gandhisflipflop wrote: ↑Sat Nov 25, 2023 7:27 pmThe only embarrassing thing is threads like this. They poster you have quoted is spot on
It’s utter nonsense
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The prettiest girl in towns Turkey Teeth are beginning to come loose and her plastic t!ts are beginning to sag, oh and she needs her roots doing
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So you agree they’re playing well?Superjohnnyfrancis wrote: ↑Sat Nov 25, 2023 7:31 pmI doubt any of those would want to play in the championship when they are playing well in this league...
Thank the Lord.
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Berge better than Defour ? Aye alright then.NewClaret wrote: ↑Sat Nov 25, 2023 7:28 pmReally shocked how lacking in football knowledge some of our fans are.
We had all this from Newcastle, raving about the quality of the champ
If fans can’t work out that:
Koleosho is levels above Zaroury.
Berge is the best midfielder we’ve had in years.
Amdouni is better than anything we had at 10 last year.
Our player of last season was coming off the bench today.
We’ll be frighteningly good in the Champ but not quite good enough for the PL yet. But whatever experience we gain between now & then will be useful.
He’s got a long way to go even carving out a PL career half as good as Westwood - though I think he’s decent.
Koleosho is a good young player but again, I hate people shitting on players that have done really well for us.. there’s things Anass does much better than Luca for a start. You think Koleosho can cross, pass and shoot like Anass? Nah
Amdouni again on what planet are you making this off?
He’s got one goal in 13 in the PL and you’re saying he’s better than anything we’ve put out in seasons that we’ve finished 7th, 10th. It’s just nonsensical.
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You’re the one talking utter nonsense I’m afraid. The season isn’t even at its halfway point yet. The team will come good, if it’s too late to save ourselves then we drop and go again. When we get the full backs in, we can go back to our style from last year.CoolClaret wrote: ↑Sat Nov 25, 2023 7:32 pmTell me on what planet putting up historically bad numbers in the PL is, sanctioning 100+ mill of transfers then dropping back into the Championship on an absolute whimper part of any plan?
It’s utter nonsense
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What have I said that’s utter nonsense?gandhisflipflop wrote: ↑Sat Nov 25, 2023 7:40 pmYou’re the one talking utter nonsense I’m afraid. The season isn’t even at its halfway point yet. The team will come good, if it’s too late to save ourselves then we drop and go again. When we get the full backs in, we can go back to our style from last year.
I’m pointing out objective facts.
If our manager wasn’t VK right now and it was a Heckingbottom type a large swathe of fans would have extremely different opinions - but because it’s VK people have a warped perception.
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I have probably watched more Championship games this season than the majority on here-just back from Leicester v Watford. Believe me if we go down we wont walk the Championship.Our team has been disappointing and the chemistry between the starting 11 and our manager is not the same as it was 12 months ago. Our manager looks a beaten man and has looked so since the Bournemouth game. His after match interview about how hard the team is working in the week is tiresome. What does he think the other 19 teams are doing
Until we get Foster back we will struggle to earn another point. Just listened to WHU fans on the radio, claiming they were shocking today. Seemed to remember the same v Palace
Until we get Foster back we will struggle to earn another point. Just listened to WHU fans on the radio, claiming they were shocking today. Seemed to remember the same v Palace
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I am not sure whether the current team is better than last seasons, its different for sure. The worrying thing for me is that there is doubt from our supporters if we are better or not after investing £100 million.
If the board are not at least considering the sacking of Kompany I would be amazed.
If the board are not at least considering the sacking of Kompany I would be amazed.
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Koleosho is levels above Zaroury. Koleosho can't scoreNewClaret wrote: ↑Sat Nov 25, 2023 7:28 pmReally shocked how lacking in football knowledge some of our fans are.
We had all this from Newcastle, raving about the quality of the champ
If fans can’t work out that:
Koleosho is levels above Zaroury.
Berge is the best midfielder we’ve had in years.
Amdouni is better than anything we had at 10 last year.
Our player of last season was coming off the bench today.
We’ll be frighteningly good in the Champ but not quite good enough for the PL yet. But whatever experience we gain between now & then will be useful.
Berge is the best midfielder we’ve had in years. You maybe right, time will tell.
Amdouni is better than anything we had at 10 last year. No Ings was better than him, but in a few years.....
As some have stated already, some won't want to stay.
No Guarantee we'd come straight back