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Sacking Kompany

Post by fanzone » Sat Nov 25, 2023 6:26 pm

Sacking Kompany would be an absolute ludicrous decision. The board and the fans bought into his way of playing and have had more good times than bad. This seasons recruitment has been a disaster at best but we probably still have a team of walking the championship. If we have to take another step back to take two forward so be it.

If a different manager came in now with a different philosophy with these players it could spell long term disaster.
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Re: Sacking Kompany

Post by DCWat » Sat Nov 25, 2023 6:29 pm

fanzone wrote:
Sat Nov 25, 2023 6:26 pm
Sacking Kompany would be an absolute ludicrous decision. The board and the fans bought into his way of playing and have had more good times than bad. This seasons recruitment has been a disaster at best but we probably still have a team of walking the championship. If we have to take another step back to take two forward so be it.

If a different manager came in now with a different philosophy with these players it could spell long term disaster.
We need to give the ‘this team would walk the championship’ nonsense a rest. No way, with the current squad would we walk the championship.

Looking at this season’s championship, I’d be amazed if this squad would achieve automatic.

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Re: Sacking Kompany

Post by gandhisflipflop » Sat Nov 25, 2023 6:30 pm

DCWat wrote:
Sat Nov 25, 2023 6:29 pm
We need to give the ‘this team would walk the championship’ nonsense a rest. No way, with the current squad would we walk the championship.

Looking at this season’s championship, I’d be amazed if this squad would achieve automatic.
Yes we would. The championship is weak as ****. The reality is that we are in the ghost league of the league inbetween premier and championship

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Re: Sacking Kompany

Post by fidelcastro » Sat Nov 25, 2023 6:31 pm

It's arrogant in the extreme to suggest we'd walk the championship with this squad.
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Re: Sacking Kompany

Post by beddie » Sat Nov 25, 2023 6:32 pm

He won’t be sacked.

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Re: Sacking Kompany

Post by Florian » Sat Nov 25, 2023 6:32 pm

We would get home wins for sure

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Re: Sacking Kompany

Post by Superjohnnyfrancis » Sat Nov 25, 2023 6:33 pm

Its telling how many have thrown in the towel already yet theres more than half a season to try and stay up.

I dont think VK has it in him at this level unfortunately, lose against Shef utd and it could be the end for him I'd imagine.

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Re: Sacking Kompany

Post by RVclaret » Sat Nov 25, 2023 6:33 pm

DCWat wrote:
Sat Nov 25, 2023 6:29 pm
We need to give the ‘this team would walk the championship’ nonsense a rest. No way, with the current squad would we walk the championship.

Looking at this season’s championship, I’d be amazed if this squad would achieve automatic.
I stick by the opinion that this squad is quite a bit stronger than last seasons.

Foster and Amdouni up top in that league?!

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Re: Sacking Kompany

Post by Superjohnnyfrancis » Sat Nov 25, 2023 6:34 pm

fanzone wrote:
Sat Nov 25, 2023 6:26 pm
Sacking Kompany would be an absolute ludicrous decision. The board and the fans bought into his way of playing and have had more good times than bad. This seasons recruitment has been a disaster at best but we probably still have a team of walking the championship. If we have to take another step back to take two forward so be it.

If a different manager came in now with a different philosophy with these players it could spell long term disaster.
Or we could make a miraculous escape, were only going one way at the moment.

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Re: Sacking Kompany

Post by daveisaclaret » Sat Nov 25, 2023 6:37 pm

You can quibble about the phrasing but obviously VK and Burnley would be overwhelming favourites in the Championship.
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Re: Sacking Kompany

Post by ervi34 » Sat Nov 25, 2023 6:38 pm

He reminds me of Daniel Farke - good for Championship, tactically too naive to manage in PL.
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Re: Sacking Kompany

Post by Vino blanco » Sat Nov 25, 2023 6:51 pm

I genuinely felt very sorry for Vincent and the team after today's performance, albeit against a poor West Ham team. But, too me, it's so obvious that we have made too many changes too soon after last season"s fabulous achievements. I really would like to know who authorised the recruitment during the summer...was it VK, the board, our recruitment team, if we have one. I said on here we would need two strong athletic midfielders and two PL-ready strikers to compete in the PL. Unfortunately someone gave the green light to signing a shed load of unexpierenced, light weight youngsters who have no clue about the PL. Berge has been a success, as has Koleosho, but other than these two we are depending on the old guard of Brownhill, JBG, Taylor, Jayrod, Roberts., who have all done okay. Having said that, we are now a team without leaders, know-how and understanding of game management.
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Re: Sacking Kompany

Post by Tufty » Sat Nov 25, 2023 6:54 pm

Keep the faith. I believe this is a stronger squad than last season and will continue to get better. 100% behind VK. UTC !

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Re: Sacking Kompany

Post by fanzone » Sat Nov 25, 2023 6:55 pm

Vino blanco wrote:
Sat Nov 25, 2023 6:51 pm
I genuinely felt very sorry for Vincent and the team after today's performance, albeit against a poor West Ham team. But, too me, it's so obvious that we have made too many changes too soon after last season"s fabulous achievements. I really would like to know who authorised the recruitment during the summer...was it VK, the board, our recruitment team, if we have one. I said on here we would need two strong athletic midfielders and two PL-ready strikers to compete in the PL. Unfortunately someone gave the green light to signing a shed load of unexpierenced, light weight youngsters who have no clue about the PL. Berge has been a success, as has Koleosho, but other than these two we are depending on the old guard of Brownhill, JBG, Taylor, Jayrod, Roberts., who have all done okay. Having said that, we are now a team without leaders, know-how and understanding of game management.
Spot on

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Re: Sacking Kompany

Post by Vino blanco » Sat Nov 25, 2023 6:58 pm

Tufty wrote:
Sat Nov 25, 2023 6:54 pm
Keep the faith. I believe this is a stronger squad than last season and will continue to get better. 100% behind VK. UTC !
I also am behind VK, but please don't tell me this is a better squad than last season.

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Re: Sacking Kompany

Post by Nori1958 » Sat Nov 25, 2023 7:03 pm

fidelcastro wrote:
Sat Nov 25, 2023 6:31 pm
It's arrogant in the extreme to suggest we'd walk the championship with this squad.
We would though, arrogant or not

Strong teams will get promoted, if we go down no big team is coming down with us..... So who's left who you'd fear?

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Re: Sacking Kompany

Post by FCBurnley » Sat Nov 25, 2023 7:06 pm

Can’t afford to fire VK even if Pace wanted to. Also can’t afford relegation. What a mess

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Re: Sacking Kompany

Post by Rileybobs » Sat Nov 25, 2023 7:06 pm

Please can anyone explain the logic that we’ll walk the Championship when, if things continue, there will be two better teams relegated with us?

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Re: Sacking Kompany

Post by Vino blanco » Sat Nov 25, 2023 7:07 pm

I think this squad might well struggle next season in the Championship.

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Re: Sacking Kompany

Post by fidelcastro » Sat Nov 25, 2023 7:08 pm

Nori1958 wrote:
Sat Nov 25, 2023 7:03 pm
We would though, arrogant or not

Strong teams will get promoted, if we go down no big team is coming down with us..... So who's left who you'd fear?
It's really not as simple that.

Firstly, there'd have to be a firesale, which would mean players being sold for a lot less than we'd previously hoped, and what confidence would the rest of the squad have having been relegated with possibly the lowest points total of any team in Premier League history?

Sure, new players would come in, but it's asking a lot for them all to perform to the standards that they did last season.

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Re: Sacking Kompany

Post by JohnMcGreal » Sat Nov 25, 2023 7:09 pm

I'm not saying it would be the right call but any manager who's in charge of a team that can't stop losing will soon find that his position is untenable.

The next few weeks are massive. He has to arrest this slump, somehow.

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Re: Sacking Kompany

Post by Nori1958 » Sat Nov 25, 2023 7:11 pm

fidelcastro wrote:
Sat Nov 25, 2023 7:08 pm
It's really not as simple that.

Firstly, there'd have to be a firesale, which would mean players being sold for a lot less than we'd previously hoped, and what confidence would the rest of the squad have having been relegated with possibly the lowest points total of any team in Premier League history?

Sure, new players would come in, but it's asking a lot for them all to perform to the standards that they did last season.
There won't be a firesale....
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Re: Sacking Kompany

Post by RVclaret » Sat Nov 25, 2023 7:11 pm

Rileybobs wrote:
Sat Nov 25, 2023 7:06 pm
Please can anyone explain the logic that we’ll walk the Championship when, if things continue, there will be two better teams relegated with us?
I don’t buy the ‘walk the league’ stuff as it’s a bit of a silly term, but in my opinion this squad is better (more talented) than last seasons, needs confidence and time to settle, as well as young talent to develop. Also on your particular question about 2 better teams relegated, there’s just a few points in it right now with 25 games to go, so it feels a bit premature to say they are better than us (I’ll accept it at the end of the season if they both finish clear of us).

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Re: Sacking Kompany

Post by Rileybobs » Sat Nov 25, 2023 7:13 pm

RVclaret wrote:
Sat Nov 25, 2023 7:11 pm
I don’t buy the ‘walk the league’ stuff as it’s a bit of a silly term, but in my opinion this squad is better (more talented) than last seasons, needs confidence and time to settle, as well as young talent to develop. Also on your particular question about 2 better teams relegated, there’s just a few points in it right now with 25 games to go, so it feels a bit premature to say they are better than us (I’ll accept it at the end of the season if they both finish clear of us).
Yes, we may very well finish above Sheff U and Luton, we can only go on what we’ve seen so far. But I haven’t seen anything to suggest we would walk the league ahead of them.

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Re: Sacking Kompany

Post by Vino blanco » Sat Nov 25, 2023 7:15 pm

Anyone who says this squad is better than last seasons is talking nonsense in my opinion.
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Re: Sacking Kompany

Post by bumba » Sat Nov 25, 2023 7:16 pm

There's team in the championship that would have more points than us this season in the prem

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Re: Sacking Kompany

Post by bumba » Sat Nov 25, 2023 7:17 pm

Nori1958 wrote:
Sat Nov 25, 2023 7:11 pm
There won't be a firesale....
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

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Re: Sacking Kompany

Post by JR1882 » Sat Nov 25, 2023 7:17 pm

He’s spent £100m, made the most monumental mess of a transfer window any of us have ever seen.

We can’t attack, we can’t defend.

There aren’t any “promising signs” of things moving in the right direction. “Playing well” doesn’t count as it’s not relevant when we throw 2+ goals away week after week.

The board are well within their rights to pot VK, there’s no evidence he has a clue what he’s doing.

Turf is flat, no one wanted to be there today.

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Re: Sacking Kompany

Post by Vincent'sCap » Sat Nov 25, 2023 7:17 pm

If everything goes to Pace's plan for our club Kompany will bring this team up from the Championship next season as a really strong unit I look forward to it
Sacking him mid project isn't an option let the guy do his job and let's see what happens,I'm looking forward to it.
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Re: Sacking Kompany

Post by Safron » Sat Nov 25, 2023 7:18 pm

Rileybobs wrote:
Sat Nov 25, 2023 7:13 pm
Yes, we may very well finish above Sheff U and Luton, we can only go on what we’ve seen so far. But I haven’t seen anything to suggest we would walk the league ahead of them.
Luton are currently 5 points above the relegation zone they could well survive

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Re: Sacking Kompany

Post by Nori1958 » Sat Nov 25, 2023 7:19 pm

Safron wrote:
Sat Nov 25, 2023 7:18 pm
Luton are currently 5 points above the relegation zone they could well survive
They wont
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Re: Sacking Kompany

Post by fidelcastro » Sat Nov 25, 2023 7:22 pm

Nori1958 wrote:
Sat Nov 25, 2023 7:11 pm
There won't be a firesale....
How do you know?

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Re: Sacking Kompany

Post by CoolClaret » Sat Nov 25, 2023 7:24 pm

Vincent'sCap wrote:
Sat Nov 25, 2023 7:17 pm
If everything goes to Pace's plan for our club Kompany will bring this team up from the Championship next season as a really strong unit I look forward to it
Sacking him mid project isn't an option let the guy do his job and let's see what happens,I'm looking forward to it.
Sorry but can we please stop with this utter copium and delusion?

It’s utterly embarrassing.

It actually sounds insane to a neutral you know? Complete fantasy land stuff.

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Re: Sacking Kompany

Post by JR1882 » Sat Nov 25, 2023 7:25 pm

Can I ask what world people are living in where we finish above anyone?

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Re: Sacking Kompany

Post by cockneyclaret » Sat Nov 25, 2023 7:26 pm

Nori1958 wrote:
Sat Nov 25, 2023 7:19 pm
They wont
They'll finish above us at this rate.

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Re: Sacking Kompany

Post by gandhisflipflop » Sat Nov 25, 2023 7:27 pm

CoolClaret wrote:
Sat Nov 25, 2023 7:24 pm
Sorry but can we please stop with this utter copium and delusion?

It’s utterly embarrassing.

It actually sounds insane to a neutral you know? Complete fantasy land stuff.
The only embarrassing thing is threads like this. They poster you have quoted is spot on

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Re: Sacking Kompany

Post by Spijed » Sat Nov 25, 2023 7:27 pm

Nori1958 wrote:
Sat Nov 25, 2023 7:19 pm
They wont
If Luton did survive and we didn't then VK doesn't deserve to keep his job.

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Re: Sacking Kompany

Post by NewClaret » Sat Nov 25, 2023 7:28 pm

DCWat wrote:
Sat Nov 25, 2023 6:29 pm
We need to give the ‘this team would walk the championship’ nonsense a rest. No way, with the current squad would we walk the championship.

Looking at this season’s championship, I’d be amazed if this squad would achieve automatic.
:lol: Really shocked how lacking in football knowledge some of our fans are.

We had all this from Newcastle, raving about the quality of the champ :lol:

If fans can’t work out that:

Koleosho is levels above Zaroury.

Berge is the best midfielder we’ve had in years.

Amdouni is better than anything we had at 10 last year.

Our player of last season was coming off the bench today.

We’ll be frighteningly good in the Champ but not quite good enough for the PL yet. But whatever experience we gain between now & then will be useful.
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Re: Sacking Kompany

Post by bumba » Sat Nov 25, 2023 7:28 pm

Vincent'sCap wrote:
Sat Nov 25, 2023 7:17 pm
If everything goes to Pace's plan for our club Kompany will bring this team up from the Championship next season as a really strong unit I look forward to it
Sacking him mid project isn't an option let the guy do his job and let's see what happens,I'm looking forward to it.
Would your boss let you under perform for so long after spending all his budget?

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Re: Sacking Kompany

Post by Superjohnnyfrancis » Sat Nov 25, 2023 7:31 pm

NewClaret wrote:
Sat Nov 25, 2023 7:28 pm
:lol: Really shocked how lacking in football knowledge some of our fans are.

We had all this from Newcastle, raving about the quality of the champ :lol:

If fans can’t work out that:

Koleosho is levels above Zaroury.

Berge is the best midfielder we’ve had in years.

Amdouni is better than anything we had at 10 last year.

Our player of last season was coming off the bench today.

We’ll be frighteningly good in the Champ but not quite good enough for the PL yet. But whatever experience we gain between now & then will be useful.
I doubt any of those would want to play in the championship when they are playing well in this league...

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Re: Sacking Kompany

Post by Nori1958 » Sat Nov 25, 2023 7:32 pm

cockneyclaret wrote:
Sat Nov 25, 2023 7:26 pm
They'll finish above us at this rate.
May well do... But will still get relegated

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Re: Sacking Kompany

Post by CoolClaret » Sat Nov 25, 2023 7:32 pm

gandhisflipflop wrote:
Sat Nov 25, 2023 7:27 pm
The only embarrassing thing is threads like this. They poster you have quoted is spot on
Tell me on what planet putting up historically bad numbers in the PL is, sanctioning 100+ mill of transfers then dropping back into the Championship on an absolute whimper part of any plan?

It’s utter nonsense

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Re: Sacking Kompany

Post by THEWELLERNUT70 » Sat Nov 25, 2023 7:32 pm

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Re: Sacking Kompany

Post by NewClaret » Sat Nov 25, 2023 7:34 pm

Superjohnnyfrancis wrote:
Sat Nov 25, 2023 7:31 pm
I doubt any of those would want to play in the championship when they are playing well in this league...
So you agree they’re playing well?

Thank the Lord.

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Re: Sacking Kompany

Post by CoolClaret » Sat Nov 25, 2023 7:36 pm

NewClaret wrote:
Sat Nov 25, 2023 7:28 pm
:lol: Really shocked how lacking in football knowledge some of our fans are.

We had all this from Newcastle, raving about the quality of the champ :lol:

If fans can’t work out that:

Koleosho is levels above Zaroury.

Berge is the best midfielder we’ve had in years.

Amdouni is better than anything we had at 10 last year.

Our player of last season was coming off the bench today.

We’ll be frighteningly good in the Champ but not quite good enough for the PL yet. But whatever experience we gain between now & then will be useful.
Berge better than Defour ? Aye alright then.

He’s got a long way to go even carving out a PL career half as good as Westwood - though I think he’s decent.

Koleosho is a good young player but again, I hate people shitting on players that have done really well for us.. there’s things Anass does much better than Luca for a start. You think Koleosho can cross, pass and shoot like Anass? Nah

Amdouni again on what planet are you making this off?

He’s got one goal in 13 in the PL and you’re saying he’s better than anything we’ve put out in seasons that we’ve finished 7th, 10th. It’s just nonsensical.
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Re: Sacking Kompany

Post by gandhisflipflop » Sat Nov 25, 2023 7:40 pm

CoolClaret wrote:
Sat Nov 25, 2023 7:32 pm
Tell me on what planet putting up historically bad numbers in the PL is, sanctioning 100+ mill of transfers then dropping back into the Championship on an absolute whimper part of any plan?

It’s utter nonsense
You’re the one talking utter nonsense I’m afraid. The season isn’t even at its halfway point yet. The team will come good, if it’s too late to save ourselves then we drop and go again. When we get the full backs in, we can go back to our style from last year.

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Re: Sacking Kompany

Post by CoolClaret » Sat Nov 25, 2023 7:45 pm

gandhisflipflop wrote:
Sat Nov 25, 2023 7:40 pm
You’re the one talking utter nonsense I’m afraid. The season isn’t even at its halfway point yet. The team will come good, if it’s too late to save ourselves then we drop and go again. When we get the full backs in, we can go back to our style from last year.
What have I said that’s utter nonsense?

I’m pointing out objective facts.

If our manager wasn’t VK right now and it was a Heckingbottom type a large swathe of fans would have extremely different opinions - but because it’s VK people have a warped perception.

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Re: Sacking Kompany

Post by warksclaret » Sat Nov 25, 2023 7:47 pm

I have probably watched more Championship games this season than the majority on here-just back from Leicester v Watford. Believe me if we go down we wont walk the Championship.Our team has been disappointing and the chemistry between the starting 11 and our manager is not the same as it was 12 months ago. Our manager looks a beaten man and has looked so since the Bournemouth game. His after match interview about how hard the team is working in the week is tiresome. What does he think the other 19 teams are doing

Until we get Foster back we will struggle to earn another point. Just listened to WHU fans on the radio, claiming they were shocking today. Seemed to remember the same v Palace
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Re: Sacking Kompany

Post by Cirrus_Minor » Sat Nov 25, 2023 7:55 pm

I am not sure whether the current team is better than last seasons, its different for sure. The worrying thing for me is that there is doubt from our supporters if we are better or not after investing £100 million.

If the board are not at least considering the sacking of Kompany I would be amazed.

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Re: Sacking Kompany

Post by Wokingclaret » Sat Nov 25, 2023 7:58 pm

NewClaret wrote:
Sat Nov 25, 2023 7:28 pm
:lol: Really shocked how lacking in football knowledge some of our fans are.

We had all this from Newcastle, raving about the quality of the champ :lol:

If fans can’t work out that:

Koleosho is levels above Zaroury.

Berge is the best midfielder we’ve had in years.

Amdouni is better than anything we had at 10 last year.

Our player of last season was coming off the bench today.

We’ll be frighteningly good in the Champ but not quite good enough for the PL yet. But whatever experience we gain between now & then will be useful.
Koleosho is levels above Zaroury. Koleosho can't score

Berge is the best midfielder we’ve had in years. You maybe right, time will tell.

Amdouni is better than anything we had at 10 last year. No Ings was better than him, but in a few years.....

As some have stated already, some won't want to stay.

No Guarantee we'd come straight back

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