Burnley v Sheffield Utd

[Cazaris]

McBurnie is an absolute c*nt, glad to see him gone as you just know he'd be one to score against us if he was still on the field later on

[Buxtonclaret]

Danes plural? We’ve only got one!

Sorry.....must remember my apostrophe

[RVclaret]

We can’t lose this now, surely?

[spt_claret]

I actually think McBernies red is harsh, his arm goes up cos he jumps, never looks at O'Shea so isn't sighting the elbow. If that was on one of ours I'd be fuming.

But it's not and we've had some awful decisions against us so hopefully that seals this one

[box_of_frogs]

I'm still nervous!!!

[ElectroClaret]

Couldn't happen to a nicer bloke...

[CoolClaret]

Said it in his cameos and definitely thinking it again Brun Larsen is so important in us having the correct tempo. He's much more incisive he wants to make things happen one way or another rather than just prat about slowly waiting for the theoretically perfect chance. Already done enough to start the next game for me.

Vitinho also looking miles better with a more aggressive winger in front of him, he put in one real good ball to Jay and generally has been creating and finding space and skinning men.

One of them where you could tell he was a talent even from a few 10 min cameos - said it in a thread after the spurs game I think ‘what is our best XI’.

Few questioned my inclusion of JBL, just think you could tell he’s a top player. Two feet, turn of pace, good passing range.

Top player

[Tricky Trevor]

We could go on to bag a few against 10 men but to be honest I’d rather have the clean sheet.

[Cazaris]

I actually think McBernies red is harsh, his arm goes up cos he jumps, never looks at O'Shea so isn't sighting the elbow. If that was on one of ours I'd be fuming.

But it's not and we've had some awful decisions against us so hopefully that seals this one

He should have been off for the first one, so this evens it out.

[Kgun5]

We can’t lose this now, surely?

Might be worth a fiver.

[Foshiznik]

I actually think McBernies red is harsh, his arm goes up cos he jumps, never looks at O'Shea so isn't sighting the elbow. If that was on one of ours I'd be fuming.

But it's not and we've had some awful decisions against us so hopefully that seals this one

Wasn’t it a second yellow? If a straight red I would agree but imo the first should have been a red anyway.

[ElectroClaret]

He should have been off for the first one, so this evens it out.

Absolutely.

[superdimitri]

Time to show off our ball retention and get a few goals in the process.
Worse thing we can do is play too defensively because if they get one back they'll be right up for it.

[HollandsPies]

I actually think McBernies red is harsh, his arm goes up cos he jumps, never looks at O'Shea so isn't sighting the elbow. If that was on one of ours I'd be fuming.

But it's not and we've had some awful decisions against us so hopefully that seals this one

Spt

[Buxtonclaret]

Good half.
Let's hope we carry on footballing them out of it, 2nd half.
Great stuff this.

[burnleymik]

Some very good performances that first half. We really look a level above these. JBL is looking class too.

[JimmyRobbo]

We've been very good.
They've been poor.

VK had our lineup correct.
PH got their formation wrong. I don't think we are a team to sit off! Hasn't he seen the goals we give away!

Glad for Jay. He's looked better than he's looked for months. I really thought he was finished.

If we don't win from here, against 10 men all lacking in confidence, then we deserve relegation! Whatever VK does, I hope he doesn't do the modern manager thing of bringing subs on for the best players near the death and, ahem, giving the game away.

[jojomk1]

Larsen offers so much more than JBG
Naturally two footed and more pace - clearly shown with his goal

[spt_claret]

One of them where you could tell he was a talent even from a few 10 min cameos - said it in a thread after the spurs game I think ‘what is our best XI’.

Few questioned my inclusion of JBL, just think you could tell he’s a top player. Two feet, turn of pace, good passing range.

Top player

He's had a knack of doing a bit of everything every time he comes on. Tall for a winger, good centre of balance, fast footed and fast brain he's had some really quick thinking one touch plays and feints in previous appearances that you only see a sharp player do, like you say he's two footed, can pass, cross, good technique so can go on set plays, not as rapid as Koleosho but pretty mobile, can finish...he honestly looks like a player with the full toolset and I still think he could play striker in this system as he's got reasonable height and strength.

Wish his was the loan to buy and Tresor the optional tbh.

[KRBFC]

Fleck booked but yet again it comes from that effing awful ball Trafford plays out to a marked man on the edge of our box.

That is not an awful ball, that is the ball we saw Muric play to Cullen 1000 times last season. It’s to break the press and create space out wide to drive into, draw a midfielder out of space that we quickly exploit. Fleck could never win the ball there

[Foshiznik]

I was worried today when I saw Stuart Atwell was VAR for today’s game but we’ve luckily not had too much to use him for. Hopefully stays that way. Do not want similar to the Fulham vs Wolves game.

[Belgianclaret]

Glad to see Jayrod on the scoreboard - not too bad considering he was deemed to be finished

[spt_claret]

He should have been off for the first one, so this evens it out.

I could see the first being given as red but can also sort of see why it wasn't.
Fleck's through the back of Brownhill was one I thought was lucky not to get a VAR review, nasty and nowhere near the ball.

[burnleymik]

Glad to see Jayrod on the scoreboard - not too bad considering he was deemed to be finished

He is another who has done well that first half. His header for the goal was perfect.

[CoolClaret]

He's had a knack of doing a bit of everything every time he comes on. Tall for a winger, good centre of balance, fast footed and fast brain he's had some really quick thinking one touch plays and feints in previous appearances that you only see a sharp player do, like you say he's two footed, can pass, cross, good technique so can go on set plays, not as rapid as Koleosho but pretty mobile, can finish...he honestly looks like a player with the full toolset and I still think he could play striker in this system as he's got reasonable height and strength.

Wish his was the loan to buy and Tresor the optional tbh.

I thought there was an option with JBL? Just hasn't been activated?

I'm not gonna write Trésor off like, just think he will need time that we don't necessarily have - he's also not a right winger.

But yeah on JBL - you can see his footballing pedigree. Spot on where you say quick of thought - that's half the battle in this division. I really like him.

[FCBurnley]

Can we play them every week ?

[ecc]

Was it definitely Jay's goal and not an OG? It was suggested earlier it might have been an OG.

[Foshiznik]

He's had a knack of doing a bit of everything every time he comes on. Tall for a winger, good centre of balance, fast footed and fast brain he's had some really quick thinking one touch plays and feints in previous appearances that you only see a sharp player do, like you say he's two footed, can pass, cross, good technique so can go on set plays, not as rapid as Koleosho but pretty mobile, can finish...he honestly looks like a player with the full toolset and I still think he could play striker in this system as he's got reasonable height and strength.

Wish his was the loan to buy and Tresor the optional tbh.

Hopefully get Hoffenheim to agree to a straight swap for Weghorst in January

[Foshiznik]

I thought there was an option with JBL? Just hasn't been activated?

I'm not gonna write Trésor off like, just think he will need time that we don't necessarily have - he's also not a right winger.

But yeah on JBL - you can see his footballing pedigree. Spot on where you say quick of thought - that's half the battle in this division. I really like him.

Very similar thing you could see in Sander Berge. Bit of class in there with all the other stuff.

[Buxtonclaret]

I could see the first being given as red but can also sort of see why it wasn't.
Fleck's through the back of Brownhill was one I thought was lucky not to get a VAR review, nasty and nowhere near the ball.

He went straight through him, did Fleck.
Can get some bad injuries with those type of fouls.
You do see straight reds for them, usually well into a bad tempered game.

[Foshiznik]

Was it definitely Jay's goal and not an OG? It was suggested earlier it might have been an OG.

Looked on target before the deflection imo

[4:20]

So happy with that half. Battling and creative. Vitinho having a cracker, working well with Brun. Come on lads, batter em'.

[DAVETHEVICAR]

Mike Dean on Sky said the first was not a red but yellow and the second was a yellow
Clinton Morrison said the same

[spt_claret]

I thought there was an option with JBL? Just hasn't been activated?

I'm not gonna write Trésor off like, just think he will need time that we don't necessarily have - he's also not a right winger.

But yeah on JBL - you can see his footballing pedigree. Spot on where you say quick of thought - that's half the battle in this division. I really like him.

There's an option, what I'm articulating badly is I'd rather we'd done what we did with Tresor and triggered the permanent deal asap,and left Tresor as optional.

I'm not sure why we signed Tresor other than Kompany was still enamoured with him from his time in Belgium, he hasn't impressed at all and doesn't seem either what we need or any different or better than what we already had. It's been done to death but for that money I'd have had Tella. Hoping he comes good but he's got a lot to do to justify the fee. As an aside, Churlinov cost more than Benson or Zaroury and look how he's panned out (even if I think he got written off a bit early himself).

[DAVETHEVICAR]

Jays goal after 15 seconds - amazing

[Casper2]

Mike Dean on Sky said the first was not a red but yellow and the second was a yellow
Clinton Morrison said the same

So both reds then

[CoolClaret]

Larsen offers so much more than JBG
Naturally two footed and more pace - clearly shown with his goal

Not to write JBG off though who has performed really well - of course he doesn't have that same burst anymore but was our best player against Arsenal & West Ham.

JBLs shirt to lose now though I feel/hope.

[ElectroClaret]

Jays goal after 15 seconds - amazing

Fastest PL goal of the season so far.

[FCBurnley]

Can’t see Heckingbottom lasting much longer. Not detracting from us but they are very poor

[JimmyRobbo]

2 subs for them. They have nothing to lose but go at us full pelt.

Archer off. I thought he was disappointing. He was the one I wanted ahead of Ramsay when I watched them last year.

[bfcmik]

I actually think McBernies red is harsh, his arm goes up cos he jumps, never looks at O'Shea so isn't sighting the elbow. If that was on one of ours I'd be fuming.

But it's not and we've had some awful decisions against us so hopefully that seals this one

The sending off was for a 2nd yellow, which was the correct card - but he shouldn't have even been anywhere near the pitch after that elbow, which should have been a straight red!

[JimmyRobbo]

Can’t see Heckingbottom lasting much longer. Not detracting from us but they are very poor

I think he did a great job last year but he has them set up very poorly for this game. I don't understand why they haven't really come after us. They've chosen to sit back. Why would anyone do that with the way we've opened the year.

Brentford just scored.

[spt_claret]

Not to write JBG off though who has performed really well - of course he doesn't have that same burst anymore but was our best player against Arsenal & West Ham.

JBLs shirt to lose now though I feel/hope.

Gudmudsson really impressed me with his CM conversion last year. He's not dynamic enough to be a prem winger now but he's an incredibly clever, experienced player with great vision, positioning, reading, and passing. Last season he would slot in all over the pitch, one minute left back to let Maatsen bomb up the next he's in a right forward channel. I think he's still useful for us but more as a CM playmaker or mezzala in a 2 or 3.

[Buxtonclaret]

Close!
We want 3 !

[Foshiznik]

Can’t see Heckingbottom lasting much longer. Not detracting from us but they are very poor

Very cringeworthy but On USA network pre game they dubbed our game “el sackico”

[bfcmik]

JBL has a very high potential, was really looking like a hot prospect before injuries knocked him back hard. I suspect he will be an essential part of our season

[bfcmik]

Gudmudsson really impressed me with his CM conversion last year. He's not dynamic enough to be a prem winger now but he's an incredibly clever, experienced player with great vision, positioning, reading, and passing. Last season he would slot in all over the pitch, one minute left back to let Maatsen bomb up the next he's in a right forward channel. I think he's still useful for us but more as a CM playmaker or mezzala in a 2 or 3.

Sort of like we did with Wade Elliott years ago.

[spt_claret]

The sending off was for a 2nd yellow, which was the correct card - but he shouldn't have even been anywhere near the pitch after that elbow, which should have been a straight red!

On seeing the first one again I'd agree

[ecc]

Looked on target before the deflection imo

Thanks, Foshiznik. No mention on BBC or Goal.com that it wasn't Jay's. I really hope it does go down as his. Vital for his confidence.

[Kgun5]

2-0 Brentford. Ben Mee with the second.