RATE THE REF - Chris Kavanagh v Sheffield United

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RATE THE REF - Chris Kavanagh v Sheffield United

Post by jdrobbo » Sat Dec 02, 2023 4:53 pm

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Chris Kavanagh (Manchester) v Sheffield United

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A. Decision Making (including use of advantage) - out of 25
B. Consistency - out of 25
C. Fitness and Positioning - of 25
D. Control and Authority - out of 25


Please only submit ratings if you actually attended the game today. Thank you very much

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Re: RATE THE REF - Chris Kavanagh v Sheffield United

Post by jdrobbo » Sat Dec 02, 2023 6:29 pm

A. 17
B. 20
C. 20
D. 22

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Re: RATE THE REF - Chris Kavanagh v Sheffield United

Post by xxmunkyennuixx » Sat Dec 02, 2023 6:43 pm

Pretty rancid. Allowed lots of sneaky little trips prior to our second. Foul count was creeping towards double figures before he carded one of them. First elbow looked a red. Second elbow looked a red. Nothing booking for O'Shea which was a shite decision from a nothing challenge. Especially given the context of his leniency for some of their antics. He's missed a penalty first half for a blatant shirt pull. Wanted to ref from centre spot. More snide **** from them second half went unpunished. Complete dogshit referee.

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Re: RATE THE REF - Chris Kavanagh v Sheffield United

Post by Steve-Harpers-perm » Sat Dec 02, 2023 6:59 pm

Seemed to remember what pocket he’d put his cards in after 20 minutes. Looked like he’d turned up for a Saturday afternoon stroll.

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Re: RATE THE REF - Chris Kavanagh v Sheffield United

Post by ClaretTony » Sat Dec 02, 2023 7:12 pm

Steve-Harpers-perm wrote:
Sat Dec 02, 2023 6:59 pm
Seemed to remember what pocket he’d put his cards in after 20 minutes. Looked like he’d turned up for a Saturday afternoon stroll.
Could have been two or three yellows before he got going couldn't there, but then he did well.

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Re: RATE THE REF - Chris Kavanagh v Sheffield United

Post by bfcjg » Sat Dec 02, 2023 7:20 pm

A.19
B. 20
C 20
D 18.

Should have clamped down earlier on the pub teams antics and Bernie should have had a straight red, apart from that did well.

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Re: RATE THE REF - Chris Kavanagh v Sheffield United

Post by DAVETHEVICAR » Sat Dec 02, 2023 7:34 pm

Can’t score as watching SSN
Mike Dean said neither was a red card but said the referee was correct with 2 yellows
In tonight’s game Forest player Felipe should have had a second yellow but Tierney bottled it .

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Re: RATE THE REF - Chris Kavanagh v Sheffield United

Post by MDWat » Sat Dec 02, 2023 7:41 pm

Thought he was pretty poor to be honest.

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Re: RATE THE REF - Chris Kavanagh v Sheffield United

Post by Burnleyareback2 » Sat Dec 02, 2023 7:54 pm

There was a pull down on one of our players in the first few minutes as we attacked. A clear yellow but he let it go- that was the minute he lost control.
I amazingly managed some phone reception and placed a bet on the cards
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Re: RATE THE REF - Chris Kavanagh v Sheffield United

Post by beddie » Sat Dec 02, 2023 8:08 pm

How he’s getting scores above 15 is concerning, did I watch a different game? The guys decision making at times was nothing short of awful. Their No 8 in the first half near the centre circle where he took our lad out, yellow all day long gives nothing. The first of McBurnies was a straight red, he gives yellow, I could go on. Inept sums him up.He needs demoting. No wonder VK got booked.

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Re: RATE THE REF - Chris Kavanagh v Sheffield United

Post by Aclaret » Sat Dec 02, 2023 8:13 pm

A 10
B 9
C 20
D 18
Surprising how we all view a refs performance, I thought on the whole he was poor.

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Re: RATE THE REF - Chris Kavanagh v Sheffield United

Post by Bosscat » Sat Dec 02, 2023 8:17 pm

Kavanagh isn't the best nor the worst we have/will see ... my scores

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Re: RATE THE REF - Chris Kavanagh v Sheffield United

Post by Cirrus_Minor » Sat Dec 02, 2023 8:21 pm

Seemed to be allowing Sheffield United to reduce the game to a scrap to try to upset our game. But eventually penalised them.

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Re: RATE THE REF - Chris Kavanagh v Sheffield United

Post by Beagleheart » Sat Dec 02, 2023 8:24 pm

It really looked like he was going to lose control in the first half.
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Re: RATE THE REF - Chris Kavanagh v Sheffield United

Post by Bordeauxclaret » Sat Dec 02, 2023 8:27 pm

Rank bad. Players manipulate refs like this with ease.

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Re: RATE THE REF - Chris Kavanagh v Sheffield United

Post by Steve-Harpers-perm » Sat Dec 02, 2023 8:29 pm

beddie wrote:
Sat Dec 02, 2023 8:08 pm
How he’s getting scores above 15 is concerning, did I watch a different game? The guys decision making at times was nothing short of awful. Their No 8 in the first half near the centre circle where he took our lad out, yellow all day long gives nothing. The first of McBurnies was a straight red, he gives yellow, I could go on. Inept sums him up.He needs demoting. No wonder VK got booked.
The bizarre booking of Beyer as well!

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Re: RATE THE REF - Chris Kavanagh v Sheffield United

Post by claretspice » Sat Dec 02, 2023 9:23 pm

Steve-Harpers-perm wrote:
Sat Dec 02, 2023 8:29 pm
The bizarre booking of Beyer as well!
Not sure there was anything bizarre about that except the ludicrous decision of Beyer's to boot the ball high into the Bob Lord when the whistle had evidently gone. Mandatory yellow.

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Re: RATE THE REF - Chris Kavanagh v Sheffield United

Post by CrosspoolClarets » Sat Dec 02, 2023 9:35 pm

A 12
B 17
C 20
D 5

As others have said, far too lenient when we could all see they had gone and were trying to kick us off the park. Lost all control over the first McBurnie foul which led to O Shea and Kompany getting booked, and the former hooked late on. Missed the penalty for Amdouni which had it been given VAR wouldn’t have overturned. Also missed a yellow when Koleosho was dragged back cynically.

Not our worst ref, but not the best, and it isn't a high bar.
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Re: RATE THE REF - Chris Kavanagh v Sheffield United

Post by simonclaret » Sat Dec 02, 2023 9:43 pm

claretspice wrote:
Sat Dec 02, 2023 9:23 pm
Not sure there was anything bizarre about that except the ludicrous decision of Beyer's to boot the ball high into the Bob Lord when the whistle had evidently gone. Mandatory yellow.
It was an odd thing to do. I initially thought he was kicking it well out to allow us to get another ball from the longside side as the game had been pulled back for a freekick there.

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Re: RATE THE REF - Chris Kavanagh v Sheffield United

Post by Rowls » Sat Dec 02, 2023 9:52 pm

He was average at best and particularly poor is terms of his control and authority.

It looked like he'd lost control for a minute or two between the first McBurnie booking and his subsequent sending off but the truth is he'd lost his authority a few minutes before when he permitted a 3 minute drink and tactics break.

It was ostensibly an injury to the Sheff Utd right back but in reality it was a coaching break and a tactical change to try and deal with Koleosho's pace. In order to receive their unofficial coaching "time out" all Sheff Utd had to do was order the player they wanted to substitute to sit down with his hand in the air.

When referee's allow this kind of nonsense the players realise that they can influence the ref. He lost control from that point onward for several minutes. It resulted, tangentially, in the game turning in our favour, but it was poor refereeing.

He regained (nominal) control after the sending off of McBurnie but he had little choice in that decision, especially given he'd fudged the first decision when a red card would have been proper. It wasn't an exercise in authority - it was Sheffield United effectively giving up.

In the end, he avoided proper scrutiny because we gave them a thumping but I'd be concerned to have this referee in a close game.

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Re: RATE THE REF - Chris Kavanagh v Sheffield United

Post by Penwortham_Claret » Sat Dec 02, 2023 9:59 pm

I’ve mentioned it before, I have met Chris socially a few times through mutual friends. His boyfriend is a big Burnley fan

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Re: RATE THE REF - Chris Kavanagh v Sheffield United

Post by quoonbeatz » Sat Dec 02, 2023 11:27 pm

Weak as they come. The first McBurnie booking was bizarre; its either violent conduct and a red card or nothing. As it was he was giving nothing for about a minute until someone obviously whispered in his ear and he had to fudge it. Clearly hadn't seen it himself. The seven is a straight red as well. Frustrating when you think Zaroury got 3 games for a mistimed tackle.
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Re: RATE THE REF - Chris Kavanagh v Sheffield United

Post by IanMcL » Sun Dec 03, 2023 6:17 pm

Ignored most.

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Re: RATE THE REF - Chris Kavanagh v Sheffield United

Post by Luppy » Mon Dec 04, 2023 9:56 am

A strange one this - Thought he had a dreadful first 20 minutes, then was very good thereafter. How Hamer avoided a booking only he can explain.

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Re: RATE THE REF - Chris Kavanagh v Sheffield United

Post by Stproc » Mon Dec 04, 2023 4:13 pm

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