Match Thread - Wolves v Burnley

[Stevie Morgan]

I don't see why Trafford gets rave reviews for his footwork/kicking. It is slow, not best controlled and often aimless/inaccurate. Pope was better at long kicks and as able on the short ones....which wasn't brilliant but adequate.

Who has given him rave reviews? Poor all season in those areas but was much better Saturday

[Elizabeth]

Great cover by Berger

Berger is to blame for us being 1-0 down

[Neil]

Dunno why Larsen has been shunted to the left, when we have Zaroury, Tresor and Odebert who could’ve gone straight in.

I thought that and we've lost the threat of pace in behind.
Very conservative substitution.

[Bosscat]

I don't see why Trafford gets rave reviews for his footwork/kicking. It is slow, not best controlled and often aimless/inaccurate. Pope was better at long kicks and as able on the short ones....which wasn't brilliant but adequate.

Apparently he has made the most number of accurate passes of any PL keeper this season according to the pre-match punditry

[CryerBFC]

JBG has taken the majority of our fast direct threat out of the game. Should have been Odobert or Tresor, like for like replacement

[Claret3495]

JBG was the wrong option and the goal was calamitous. So frustrating after playing well

[NewClaret]

Wolves gift us one, we miss the chance, we gift them one, they take it, that’s what happens

Spot on RV.

[Burnley1989]

Played really well, create 1-2 more chances we score, bit negative on here as per

[BabylonClaret]

That's a disappointing goal. Mad pass after a really good half from o shea.

We've played really well there though

[StayingDown4Ever]

Our defending is embarrassing. More or less every week one of our players humiliates themself with a pathetic error.

[Stevie Morgan]

Not sure it was? Looked a heavy touch by Berge to me.

The pass wasn't on, and on this occasion, a rarity berge wasn't quite good enough to rescue it

[boatshed bill]

So O'Shea underhits a pass and someone uses it to have a dig at Trafford...
It could only happen here.

[bumba]

Berger is to blame for us being 1-0 down

He didn't deal with it as well as he could have but the O'Shea pass to a man marked on the edge of his own area by four players was stupid

[Newcastleclaret93]

Not sure O’Shea did a lot wrong there, yes it was underweighted but Berge first touch was a pass it was that bad.

Berge unfortunately just made a mistake and we were punished

[Stevie Morgan]

Apparently he has made the most number of accurate passes of any PL keeper this season according to the pre-match punditry

A hospital pass is an accurate pass but still a bloody stupid one.

[Somethingfishy]

It's noticeable that Wolves have stepped a few yards futher up the pitch since Koleosho went off. Less space in the middle.

Strange substitution to bring JBG on for Koleosho this early in the game...and to disrupt JBL by moving him to the other side. Zaroury surely the natural swap? Now we lack pace in behind and Wolves know it. Just odd.

[CoolClaret]

Full disclaimer:

Trafford has done absolutely nothing wrong in this match.

The point still stands - if we want to build out from the back he isn’t the keeper for it and that isn’t because of the goal conceded either.

It’s everything else, receiving the ball, speed, trajectory of pass. Been done to death but if VK wants our lads to do this against better opposition then we will continue to come up short

[NewClaret]

JBG has taken the majority of our fast direct threat out of the game. Should have been Odobert or Tresor, like for like replacement

Problem is, VK doesn’t trust Odobert or Tresor to track back like JBG, JBL and Koleosho do.

Nor do I to be honest, but does leave us looking really lacking pace now.

[AGENT_CLARET]

Played really well, create 1-2 more chances we score, bit negative on here as per

The negativity comes because we've yet again gifted a team another goal as per

[Elizabeth]

He's least to blame there.

Are you listening on the radio?

[xxmunkyennuixx]

The mistake is from O'Shea and not Berge. That pass was not on. It was a dummy run by Berge. The ball was to Jay or Amdouni in centre midfield.

[Newcastleclaret93]

He didn't deal with it as well as he could have but the O'Shea pass to a man marked on the edge of his own area by four players was stupid

He should have taken that in his stride if we being honest. That was really poor from berge. But unfortunately a mistake in your own third is usually critical

[HahaYeah]

VK doesn't seem to fancy Zaroury.

[Foshiznik]

Need to get O’Shea out of the side. For all the good he brings with the longer pass, he can’t pass short for toffee and has cost us a good few cheap goals

[bumba]

Nothing to do with Wolves stepping it up

They've nothing to fear in behind now they can push up the pitch, we've no pacey winger and Jay up front neither of those three will beat a Wolves defender for pace.
It has everything to do with them stepping it up

[AlargeClaret]

Berge has an awful 1st touch like he’s wearing hiking boots

[Foshiznik]

He should have taken that in his stride if we being honest. That was really poor from berge. But unfortunately a mistake in your own third is usually critical

He’s Berge not Beckenbauer.

[RVclaret]

Our defending is embarrassing. More or less every week one of our players humiliates themself with a pathetic error.

We’ve defended really well.

[Elizabeth]

Played really well, create 1-2 more chances we score, bit negative on here as per

What do you want to see? I know what I want to see. A game we don't f**k around and gift our opponents a goal.

[FCBurnley]

Big miss by Jay and big error by Berge. Koleosho a huge loss. He was terrifying em.

[Burnley1989]

Need to get O’Shea out of the side. For all the good he brings with the longer pass, he can’t pass short for toffee and has cost us a good few cheap goals

For who though? I can’t think who does a better job

[Scampi]

Spot on RV.

Different grade of errors. Theirs was when under pressure, drawing the press. Ours was with us in full control.

[Burnley1989]

What do you want to see? I know what I want to see. A game we don't f**k around and gift our opponents a goal.

Certainly not you Elizabeth

[nyclaret]

Not sure O’Shea did a lot wrong there, yes it was underweighted but Berge first touch was a pass it was that bad.

Berge unfortunately just made a mistake and we were punished

Does Berge look like the best option to play to in this situation?

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[JimmyRobbo]

The mistake is from O'Shea and not Berge. That pass was not on. It was a dummy run by Berge. The ball was to Jay or Amdouni in centre midfield.

The pass was fine. I wouldn't have played it but I haven't played in the EPL.

Berge touch was far too heavy.

[No Ney Never]

That was frustrating to the point of anger, kin unbelievable!
The substitution I cannot fathom either, wtf?

[Goody1975]

Are you listening on the radio?

No I'm watching it you smart arse

[Newcastleclaret93]

He’s Berge not Beckenbauer.

Just seen it again, the pass is was a bit under hit but Berge really made a hash of it.

I’m not sure why Berge didn’t just boot it. He tried to take it in his stride and messed it up.

It’s just one of those things unfortunately. If we played like we did most of the half we should at least get a draw

[spt_claret]

Don't agree with people saying we've been by far the better team. Wolves have had more of the ball, they had a half chance they put over, we've had 1 5 second passage of play with 1 good chance for Jay and 1 good effort from Brownhill but otherwise have once again failed to be as incisive as we need to be. Lots of possession in advanced wide areas, not a lot of productivity.

Dreadful error from O'Shea compounded by a dreadful error from Berge who'd been running the midfield otherwise. Trafford had no chance with it.

Koleosho going off could be costly, can't understand Johann being the sub, he's never a winger anymore keep saying he's best as a CM at this level now. Zaroury or Odobert is more of a like for like swap with pace and dribbling ability, Larsen looks better on the right than left and now he's had to switch and Gudmundsson hasn't got going, dipped our tempo massively and has yet to drag anybody out of position to get Vitinho space.

Jay anonymous and spurned a good chance. Amdouni running a lot but not doing much. Wolves don't half press excellently and have a real ability to mix play, they know more than 1 way to score or win and even if we'd been denying any great chances until the error, we weren't convincing.

Think we made the wrong sub and not sure what we do now, I'd probably be brave and sub Johann back off, not sure he's what we need to get past their defence.

I don't see why Trafford gets rave reviews for his footwork/kicking. It is slow, not best controlled and often aimless/inaccurate. Pope was better at long kicks and as able on the short ones....which wasn't brilliant but adequate.

He's far nervier and less consistent than Muric. Wolves are pressing him hard and often and it's causing a lot of turnovers.

[superdimitri]

Its not that simple

It is, we didn't have the composure to score and they did. Also, credit has to go to their keeper who made good saves.

We are always going to make some mistakes. It's the way we play, we need to take our chances.

These mistakes aren't going to stop, we need to out score our opposition.

[CoolClaret]

Does Berge look like the best option to play to in this situation?
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I mean if you’re gonna screen shot it shot it when the ball has just left his foot.

We probably drill that pattern/routine and it’s gone wrong

[Rick_Muller]

Hospital pass from O’Shea to Berge for me

[NewClaret]

So O'Shea underhits a pass and someone uses it to have a dig at Trafford...
It could only happen here.

The pass was fine. It was Berge’s touch that caused the goal.

Trafford may have gathered in his hands initially. Maybe inexperienced or maybe how he’s coached.

[Sgt. Pepper]

Very frustrating. We are simply not good enough to play out from the back like that when the other team are pressing even vaguely effectively. We'd already got away with a couple, but just never seem to learn.
Yet another decent performance, unable to take our chances, and then gift the opposition a late goal.

[Newcastleclaret93]

Does Berge look like the best option to play to in this situation?
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Not the best no, but if he controls it there is no problem. It’s not like he got tackled, he just miss controls it and inadvertently passes it to a wolves player.

[Westleigh]

The mistake is from O'Shea and not Berge. That pass was not on. It was a dummy run by Berge. The ball was to Jay or Amdouni in centre midfield.

Look at it again the ball came to Berge but he miss controlled ,end of

[It Is What It Is]

What’s the solution? Hoof it every time? We just concede possession that way.

We nearly scored a while earlier because basically every team plays it out from the back. Difference is they took advantage of our error and we didn’t take advantage of theirs.

I'm all for playing possession out from the back but under no pressure whatsoever, clumsiness and poor passing in your own box...is quite frankly...schoolboy errors.
It's not even defending...it's just giving the ball away to their forwards in our box! Suicide.

[Buxtonclaret]

Berger is to blame for us being 1-0 down

Whatever happened earlier doesn't detract from that covering tackle at the end of the half.
And personally, while he should have done better, he wasn't entirely responsible for another goof by us.

[NewClaret]

Hospital pass from O’Shea to Berge for me

Totally disagree based on the replays I’ve seen, Berge wins it fine but then takes a heavy touch and concedes possession.

[Elizabeth]

Certainly not you Elizabeth

I'm certain I'm not on my own here , keep kidding yourself.

The truth is I'm seething at these repeated mistakes that are costing us so many points.

We are done in this game now . Its the characteristic of this team