Match Thread - Wolves v Burnley

Sgt. Pepper · Post by **Sgt. Pepper** » Tue Dec 05, 2023 9:28 pm

Meanwhile Luton giving Arsenal a decent game.
I've nothing against Kompany's footballing principles, but they need to be alongside, not instead of, a degree of physicality and commitment which we seem to be lacking.

Foshiznik · Post by **Foshiznik** » Tue Dec 05, 2023 9:28 pm

Elizabeth wrote: ↑
Tue Dec 05, 2023 9:25 pm
We haven't been worthy of winning the game so I suppose it's only a point lost and an error by Sande Berger to go along with his error earlier in the season and those of O'Shea, Cullen, Trafford , Vitinho, Al Dakhil .
I apologise if I've left any player out but this is self inflicted wounding of the relegation material.

Seriously change the record.

hoskinsgoalatswansea · Post by **hoskinsgoalatswansea** » Tue Dec 05, 2023 9:28 pm

wilks_bfc wrote: ↑
Tue Dec 05, 2023 9:22 pm
Wtf are Redmond & Oderbert expected to do in 3mins

Waste of money too. They’ll get sizeable appearance bonuses for a pointless switch that late in the game.

JimmyRobbo · Post by **JimmyRobbo** » Tue Dec 05, 2023 9:28 pm

A very disappointing loss.

Thought we were ok. We are definitely looking better. He seems to be getting his starting 11 sorted. I have no fear we will fight for survival. We are looking stronger, we're getting better at corners (n both directions). We desperately need someone who can put the ball in the net. I also think the keeper is starting to grow into the league.

Not all bad news.

tarkys_ears · Post by **tarkys_ears** » Tue Dec 05, 2023 9:28 pm

Luton will ******* win now...

burnleymik · Post by **burnleymik** » Tue Dec 05, 2023 9:29 pm

Ampth7 wrote: ↑
Tue Dec 05, 2023 9:27 pm
Yet again we cough up possession in our own half and pay the penalty. Vitinho takes the responsibility for that one along with Berge.

Wasn't it O'Shea?

Woodleyclaret · Post by **Woodleyclaret** » Tue Dec 05, 2023 9:29 pm

Poor use of subs and why wait till 5 mins left
A poor side that we should have a least drawn with

spt_claret · Post by **spt_claret** » Tue Dec 05, 2023 9:29 pm

Ampth7 wrote: ↑
Tue Dec 05, 2023 9:27 pm
Yet again we cough up possession in our own half and pay the penalty. Vitinho takes the responsibility for that one along with Berge.

How the **** is it Vitinho? O'Shea plays the pass.

jurek · Post by **jurek** » Tue Dec 05, 2023 9:29 pm

Poor second half but we shouldn't have lost that one.
A 0-0 draw might have been a fair result.

RVclaret · Post by **RVclaret** » Tue Dec 05, 2023 9:29 pm

CoolClaret wrote: ↑
Tue Dec 05, 2023 9:27 pm
They are but we've shown we haven't learnt nor that we are capable of putting up a 90 minute performance against a PL side.

Agree there, not the first (or 2nd, 3rd or 4th) time we’ve not turned up 2nd half. We looked tired out there and just overall struggle to match their fitness and physicality in key duels.

ksrclaret · Post by **ksrclaret** » Tue Dec 05, 2023 9:29 pm

Hell fire, what a bitterly disappointing night after Saturday.

Quite obviously, the players we have bought for £100m are not good enough to play this system and it will take us down with a ridiculously low points total.

Pearcey · Post by **Pearcey** » Tue Dec 05, 2023 9:30 pm

Wrong substitution when Koleosho went off for me and made other changes too late. At least we look more solid than we were at the start of the season. Only lost that because of a cock up but it was frustrating to watch.

THEWELLERNUT70 · Post by **THEWELLERNUT70** » Tue Dec 05, 2023 9:30 pm

We were poor second half and could have played until midnight and still not scored

RighteousClaret · Post by **RighteousClaret** » Tue Dec 05, 2023 9:30 pm

Dull, predicable, plodding - JBG substitution took away all threat and Wolves were comfortable from there on. Kompany needs to react quicker when he sees that nothing is happening.

TsarBomba · Post by **TsarBomba** » Tue Dec 05, 2023 9:30 pm

Where was the urgency to go and get something from that game? I’m a little dumbfounded with that second half performance. Do Kompany and co not realise were cut adrift at the bottom?

Berge excellent. Ekdal slotted in very comfortably and showed what a class player he is.

Concerning that we’ve bought a million wingers yet are reliant on an 18 year old kid.

JBG substitution was the wrong one.

We ain’t staying up with Jay Rod leading the line. Hopefully Foster is back to give us a fighting chance.

KRBFC · Post by **KRBFC** » Tue Dec 05, 2023 9:30 pm

ksrclaret wrote: ↑
Tue Dec 05, 2023 9:29 pm
Hell fire, what a bitterly disappointing night after Saturday.

Quite obviously, the players we have bought for £100m are not good enough to play this system and it will take us down with a ridiculously low points total.

You’re quick again. Saturday pained you

boatshed bill · Post by **boatshed bill** » Tue Dec 05, 2023 9:30 pm

Almost equal possession and we created more shooting opportunities.
Truth is we are a bit naive at this level, which is hardly surprising.
How I wish Foster would return very soon.

Elizabeth · Post by **Elizabeth** » Tue Dec 05, 2023 9:30 pm

Foshiznik wrote: ↑
Tue Dec 05, 2023 9:28 pm
Seriously change the record.

Not tonight , if the team can play the same record then I think it's open

burnleymik · Post by **burnleymik** » Tue Dec 05, 2023 9:31 pm

Genuinely believe we are a decent striker away from being there or thereabouts. Obviously the mistakes, but we are capable of creating chances, but lacking that killer instinct.

Belgianclaret · Post by **Belgianclaret** » Tue Dec 05, 2023 9:31 pm

They waited for our mistake and punished it again.

We had our chances in first half and didn’t take them.

Second half disappointing.

Not too much in it, but we cannot afford to keep making the same mistakes

Rick_Muller · Post by **Rick_Muller** » Tue Dec 05, 2023 9:31 pm

I thought we outplayed the “established” Premier League team in large parts of this game. We came undone with an error again, which without it would have been a good away point at Wolves.

Pickles · Post by **Pickles** » Tue Dec 05, 2023 9:31 pm

Yes there's all the chatter about the signings and the playing from the back etc.

But we don't look anywhere close to being fit enough. And that's got to be bare minimum.

Spijed · Post by **Spijed** » Tue Dec 05, 2023 9:31 pm

Why do we insist on trying to play "Total football" when teams like Wolves are happy to hoof it clear as and when required?

ksrclaret · Post by **ksrclaret** » Tue Dec 05, 2023 9:31 pm

KRBFC wrote: ↑
Tue Dec 05, 2023 9:30 pm
You’re quick again. Saturday pained you

I'm not going to suck you off. Stop asking.

Quickenthetempo · Post by **Quickenthetempo** » Tue Dec 05, 2023 9:32 pm

What a horrible game of football.

Noblelight · Post by **Noblelight** » Tue Dec 05, 2023 9:32 pm

Sadly didn’t do enough in the attacking 3rd of the pitch. We at least gave ourselves a chance with only conceding 1 goal. I wish we would stop playing round with it at the back as it scares the s… out of me

Billyblah · Post by **Billyblah** » Tue Dec 05, 2023 9:32 pm

burnleymik wrote: ↑
Tue Dec 05, 2023 9:29 pm
Wasn't it O'Shea?

Was surely O'Shea playing it into Berge who had three men bearing down on him.

Foshiznik · Post by **Foshiznik** » Tue Dec 05, 2023 9:33 pm

Elizabeth wrote: ↑
Tue Dec 05, 2023 9:30 pm
Not tonight , if the team can play the same record then I think it's open

Hardly a performance in keeping with the majority of the season though is it. Clearly you are from down the road the amount of vitriol you have for individual players who play for the club you pretend to support.

tarkys_ears · Post by **tarkys_ears** » Tue Dec 05, 2023 9:33 pm

Rick_Muller wrote: ↑
Tue Dec 05, 2023 9:31 pm
I thought we outplayed the “established” Premier League team in large parts of this game. We came undone with an error again, which without it would have been a good away point at Wolves.

If we wouldn't have ****** up when we did, we certainly would have done later on

...and this is stemming from way back last season. This is nothing new, it's the way we play

warksclaret · Post by **warksclaret** » Tue Dec 05, 2023 9:33 pm

It was almost a good performance and worthy of at least a point. However when you have to resort to playing Jay as your main front man, and JBG who looked totally pedestrian tonight, you give the opposition an advantage.How is JBG keeping out Tresor, Zarourry, Redmond all of whom can make something happen. Tresor showed glimpses of it tonight and needs to be getting more game time.Only have ourselves to blame. I liked the calming influence of Ekdal

Rick_Muller · Post by **Rick_Muller** » Tue Dec 05, 2023 9:33 pm

Elizabeth wrote: ↑
Tue Dec 05, 2023 9:25 pm
We haven't been worthy of winning the game so I suppose it's only a point lost and an error by Sande Berger to go along with his error earlier in the season and those of O'Shea, Cullen, Trafford , Vitinho, Al Dakhil .
I apologise if I've left any player out but this is self inflicted wounding of the relegation material.

I’ve resisted replying earlier in the thread to your total negativity shown, but after full time I’m taking the opportunity to ask you to please support the team during the game. It’s not constructive to constantly bicker and put down the teams efforts while they’re playing.

CoolClaret · Post by **CoolClaret** » Tue Dec 05, 2023 9:33 pm

Rick_Muller wrote: ↑
Tue Dec 05, 2023 9:31 pm
I thought we outplayed the “established” Premier League team in large parts of this game. We came undone with an error again, which without it would have been a good away point at Wolves.

Same old though.

Not learning. Took a real step backwards tonight

Colburn_Claret · Post by **Colburn_Claret** » Tue Dec 05, 2023 9:33 pm

Tonight showed we still haven't learnt anything, forget Saturday. Wolves were there for the taking and we let ourselves down again.
Please Vincent, start looking in the mirror and question yourself.
More of the same, is only going to lead to more wasted opportunities.

bfcmik · Post by **bfcmik** » Tue Dec 05, 2023 9:33 pm

JBG, JRod and Amdouni were very average, JBL nowhere near as effective on the left as he was on the right, perhaps Zaroury might have been the better swap for Koleosho, Berge and Brownhill were effective in midfield again and O'Shea had a superb game.

Having said that, apart from the mistake, the game had 0-0 very much stamped on it. After Luca went off we seem to be very static for long periods with no-one trying to break the line, crosses were generally from deep or came from Wolves' mistakes

Rick_Muller · Post by **Rick_Muller** » Tue Dec 05, 2023 9:34 pm

Luton now winning bloody hell

Nonayforever · Post by **Nonayforever** » Tue Dec 05, 2023 9:34 pm

No disappointment from me there.
A good 50 / 50 game. Just the one taken chance decided it.
Yes, we could do better in certain areas but I believe we are giving everyone a game now.
I'm not losing faith yet.

ksrclaret · Post by **ksrclaret** » Tue Dec 05, 2023 9:34 pm

Spijed wrote: ↑
Tue Dec 05, 2023 9:31 pm
Why do we insist on trying to play "Total football" when teams like Wolves are happy to hoof it clear as and when required?

Because we think we're playing the right way.

KefkaClaret · Post by **KefkaClaret** » Tue Dec 05, 2023 9:34 pm

Embarrassing how much better Luton are to us

JimmyRobbo · Post by **JimmyRobbo** » Tue Dec 05, 2023 9:34 pm

Luton 3-2 up.

Bring back Ramsdale. Under the keeper! Arsenal look frustrated.

Newcastleclaret93 · Post by **Newcastleclaret93** » Tue Dec 05, 2023 9:34 pm

Luton winning

Elizabeth · Post by **Elizabeth** » Tue Dec 05, 2023 9:34 pm

TsarBomba wrote: ↑
Tue Dec 05, 2023 9:30 pm
Where was the urgency to go and get something from that game? I’m a little dumbfounded with that second half performance. Do Kompany and co not realise were cut adrift at the bottom?

Berge excellent. Ekdal slotted in very comfortably and showed what a class player he is.

Concerning that we’ve bought a million wingers yet are reliant on an 18 year old kid.

JBG substitution was the wrong one.

We ain’t staying up with Jay Rod leading the line. Hopefully Foster is back to give us a fighting chance.

Tsar , you've been particularly critical this season and I use you as a yardstick.

I do differ about your appraisal of Berge.

Tonight showed me the critical nature of our plight

We are going to be relegated and the only question is for the monetary experts

Royboyclaret · Post by **Royboyclaret** » Tue Dec 05, 2023 9:34 pm

A nothing performance......So, so disappointing after Saturday.

burnleymik · Post by **burnleymik** » Tue Dec 05, 2023 9:35 pm

JimmyRobbo wrote: ↑
Tue Dec 05, 2023 9:34 pm
Luton 3-2 up.

Bring back Ramsdale. Under the keeper! Arsenal look frustrated.

That's a blow.

Burnley1989 · Post by **Burnley1989** » Tue Dec 05, 2023 9:35 pm

spt_claret wrote: ↑
Tue Dec 05, 2023 9:29 pm
How the **** is it Vitinho? O'Shea plays the pass.

We’ve done blaming Trafford so wtf not

RVclaret · Post by **RVclaret** » Tue Dec 05, 2023 9:36 pm

Spijed wrote: ↑
Tue Dec 05, 2023 9:31 pm
Why do we insist on trying to play "Total football" when teams like Wolves are happy to hoof it clear as and when required?

I don’t really understand this. Both teams mixed it up tonight. We went direct quite frequently. Unfortunately without Foster there’s no one to run the channels. They made a major error which went unpunished, we made a major error and it was punished.

Newcastleclaret93 · Post by **Newcastleclaret93** » Tue Dec 05, 2023 9:36 pm

BabylonClaret · Post by **BabylonClaret** » Tue Dec 05, 2023 9:37 pm

Have to say I'm surprised we didn't roll the dice o subs a bit earlier - Jay and Amdouni both struggled 2nd half and JBL was lost on the right.

Maddening that bar the self destruct goal that could have been another point.

JimmyRobbo · Post by **JimmyRobbo** » Tue Dec 05, 2023 9:37 pm

CoolClaret wrote: ↑
Tue Dec 05, 2023 9:33 pm
Same old though.

Not learning. Took a real step backwards tonight

"Backwards" but "Same old"?

We are miles better than we were earlier in the season. We are desperate for a goalscorer. We are getting there. We might still go down but we are not going backwards.

IanMcL · Post by **IanMcL** » Tue Dec 05, 2023 9:37 pm

Luton have scored 3 so far, against Arse.

3 - 3

AGENT_CLARET · Post by **AGENT_CLARET** » Tue Dec 05, 2023 9:37 pm

KefkaClaret wrote: ↑
Tue Dec 05, 2023 9:34 pm
Embarrassing how much better Luton are to us

They play the Dyche way