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Ekdal
A night of few positives but I thought he played very well. A clever player who rarely makes a mistake.
Has to start for me.
Oh, and, GET IN ARSENAL.
Has to start for me.
Oh, and, GET IN ARSENAL.
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Re: Ekdal
Agreed. Don’t think O’Shea played badly tonight either. He probably shouldn’t play that ball to Berge, but for me the goal comes from a very poor touch from Sander.
The problem tonight wasn’t the defence.
The problem tonight wasn’t the defence.
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Re: Ekdal
He reminded us of how cool and composed he is, and I thought he played some good balls when moving forward. He has a good footballing brain-thats what you need in our side right nowjedi_master wrote: ↑Tue Dec 05, 2023 10:13 pmA night of few positives but I thought he played very well. A clever player who rarely makes a mistake.
Has to start for me.
Oh, and, GET IN ARSENAL.
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Re: Ekdal
I think they’re equally culpable r.e the goal. O’Shea shouldn’t try the ball in that position just before half time and Berge should simply hoof it into touch the second he realises he has two on him. Silly goal, but O’Shea was solid barring the error.agreenwood wrote: ↑Tue Dec 05, 2023 10:18 pmAgreed. Don’t think O’Shea played badly tonight either. He probably shouldn’t play that ball to Berge, but for me the goal comes from a very poor touch from Sander.
The problem tonight wasn’t the defence.
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Re: Ekdal
Played well hopefully it means we don’t have to witness O’Shea for a while now.
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Re: Ekdal
Unpopular opinion but I'd keep O'Shea and Ekdal
Cunha is a top, top striker and Hwang aint bad either - bar the ******** up they marshalled them two very well.
Beyer - though talented has struggled with the physical side of the game this season.
Cunha is a top, top striker and Hwang aint bad either - bar the ******** up they marshalled them two very well.
Beyer - though talented has struggled with the physical side of the game this season.
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Re: Ekdal
Primarily OShea's error for me. Berge has 3 closing his and is trapped. So the ball is a bad idea in the first place and it's also underhit. Perhaps he might have bailed himself out with a really really good touch but I'm not sure the heavy touch made much difference once he was surrounded.
I too thought Ekdal was assured.
I too thought Ekdal was assured.
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Re: Ekdal
Beyer played excellently against both Sheffield United and Luton, so I don’t really get the physicality point.CoolClaret wrote: ↑Tue Dec 05, 2023 10:25 pmUnpopular opinion but I'd keep O'Shea and Ekdal
Cunha is a top, top striker and Hwang aint bad either - bar the ******** up they marshalled them two very well.
Beyer - though talented has struggled with the physical side of the game this season.
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Re: Ekdal
Oshea shouldnt be playing if ekdal and beyer are fitagreenwood wrote: ↑Tue Dec 05, 2023 10:18 pmAgreed. Don’t think O’Shea played badly tonight either. He probably shouldn’t play that ball to Berge, but for me the goal comes from a very poor touch from Sander.
The problem tonight wasn’t the defence.
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Re: Ekdal
I’d be up for trying O’Shea at right back - in fact, I think that’s a really good shout if he has experience of playing there. Vitinho has done well recently, excellent against Sheffield United, but getting added physicality into the side would be very welcome.
O’Shea Ekdal Beyer Taylor is quite a physical back line.
O’Shea Ekdal Beyer Taylor is quite a physical back line.
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Re: Ekdal
And equally has been bullied off other strikers this season. Sheff United I'd say was O'Shea battling with McBurnie for a half then it was smooth sailing for the defenders.Swizzlestick wrote: ↑Tue Dec 05, 2023 10:27 pmBeyer played excellently against both Sheffield United and Luton, so I don’t really get the physicality point.
Luton? Perhaps
Listen I like him and think he's a supremely talented footballer but is poor at defending set pieces and crosses - was the same last year but we didn't see it much with our dominance with the ball.
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Re: Ekdal
At least you are consistentclaretspice wrote: ↑Tue Dec 05, 2023 10:26 pmPrimarily OShea's error for me. Berge has 3 closing his and is trapped. So the ball is a bad idea in the first place and it's also underhit. Perhaps he might have bailed himself out with a really really good touch but I'm not sure the heavy touch made much difference once he was surrounded.
I too thought Ekdal was assured.
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Re: Ekdal
Not for me not knocking him but he slow on the turn and caught out several times doesn’t allow you to push high as he be mince meat on the turn.
He ok in possession but I prefer O Shea to be honest think he offers a little bit more all round for me
Bayer is weak and is a suited to a back 3 on either side he can carry and play but is weak and gets bullied.
O’Shea took the physical lead against Sheffield United and followed there physical threat.
He ok in possession but I prefer O Shea to be honest think he offers a little bit more all round for me
Bayer is weak and is a suited to a back 3 on either side he can carry and play but is weak and gets bullied.
O’Shea took the physical lead against Sheffield United and followed there physical threat.
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Re: Ekdal
O'Shea will never be a PL standard centre back as long as he has a hole in his arse.
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Re: Ekdal
I have no idea why people think O'Shea is going to be better at right back.
That is, better than he is now, and better than Vitinho or Roberts.
That is, better than he is now, and better than Vitinho or Roberts.
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Re: Ekdal
Right now a back four of O Shea Ekdal Beyer Taylor is potentially our best defensive line up. On Saturday Mitomo v Vitinho is worrying me
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Re: Ekdal
RB/LB are arguably the most specialised positions in the team, but you'd put a guy in who is hardly managing to play in his own position?
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Re: Ekdal
Think this is exceptionally harsh on someone I don’t think was at fault tonight, has been growing on to the season and is rapid - a massive plus at this level.ElectroClaret wrote: ↑Tue Dec 05, 2023 10:38 pmO'Shea will never be a PL standard centre back as long as he has a hole in his arse.
I would go with Ekdal & Beyer but O’Shea is very close to that pairing and has attributes they don’t, so a close one for me.
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Re: Ekdal
Away to Brighton who are a possession and skill based footballing side. Therefore I don’t see why O’Shea at right back is that big an issue given it shores us up defensively.
Might not give us the same as Vitinho going forward but I’d feel a lot less nervous of the pace and attacking threat of Brightons young side with him not being a ticking timebomb around our defence defence.
Might not give us the same as Vitinho going forward but I’d feel a lot less nervous of the pace and attacking threat of Brightons young side with him not being a ticking timebomb around our defence defence.
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Re: Ekdal
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Re: Ekdal
On a side note, I flew into Stockholm last night and there are many pictures of famous Swedish people - saw his Ekdal’s brothers picture and then a little further down John Guedetti
That was quite a blast from the past- I’d forgotten all about his loan with us.
That was quite a blast from the past- I’d forgotten all about his loan with us.
Re: Ekdal
He's reads the game well Jedi - what he lacks in a bit of pace he makes up for with that half a yard in his head. He reminds me a bit of Dobson in the latter years of his career. Never flustered and ahead of the game. Has to start with Beyer going forward.
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This has lost me. Literally the only reason Wolves scored is because of Berge’s heavy touch. If the touch is better they do not score, regardless of the pass (which was weighted okay). I accept O’Shea should realise the pressing trap Wolves are setting but let’s not kid ourselves here, it’s a shocking first touch from Berge - if it’s better he can use his upper body strength to shield the ball quite easily.claretspice wrote: ↑Tue Dec 05, 2023 10:26 pmPrimarily OShea's error for me. Berge has 3 closing his and is trapped. So the ball is a bad idea in the first place and it's also underhit. Perhaps he might have bailed himself out with a really really good touch but I'm not sure the heavy touch made much difference once he was surrounded.
I too thought Ekdal was assured.
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Re: Ekdal
Yep 100% correct.RVclaret wrote: ↑Wed Dec 06, 2023 9:37 amThis has lost me. Literally the only reason Wolves scored is because of Berge’s heavy touch. If the touch is better they do not score, regardless of the pass (which was weighted okay). I accept O’Shea should realise the pressing trap Wolves are setting but let’s not kid ourselves here, it’s a shocking first touch from Berge - if it’s better he can use his upper body strength to shield the ball quite easily.
The chance only comes because of his poor touch. Berge is 100% at fault.
It’s only people with agendas saying O’Shea. Who I thought had a strong game
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Re: Ekdal
The majority think otherwise, including me.Newcastleclaret93 wrote: ↑Wed Dec 06, 2023 9:40 amYep 100% correct.
The chance only comes because of his poor touch. Berge is 100% at fault.
It’s only people with agendas saying O’Shea. Who I thought had a strong game
Even if his touch is good he is trapped, it's a stupid pass to play with just about all options for Berge blocked. The only option is to his right where the available option is at severe risk of being closed down by an onrushing Wolves forward.
Team sets traps when pressing, unfortunately sometimes this season we have set the traps for ourselves.
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Re: Ekdal
O’Shea should be nowhere near the first team.
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Re: Ekdal
The problem isn’t individual players , their being coached to make stupid passes under pressure at the back when booting it away from danger would be the obvious thing to do!
This obsession with crap slow Italian 90’s football is the problem , we seem to love giving the opposition 1 or 2 goals head start.
This obsession with crap slow Italian 90’s football is the problem , we seem to love giving the opposition 1 or 2 goals head start.
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Re: Ekdal
Both culpable. It's a poor choice of pass, especially when O'Shea can see the full picture better than Berge can, which gives him little option but to come back towards O'Shea. Second touch is abysmal but it's O'Shea who has put him in that position.
Thing to remember is that they are being told to make these types of passes and there's nothing wrong with that but the players have to make better decisions. The touch is terrible but the pass is absolutely stupid, into a central area with two opponents already heading to cut it off.
Thing to remember is that they are being told to make these types of passes and there's nothing wrong with that but the players have to make better decisions. The touch is terrible but the pass is absolutely stupid, into a central area with two opponents already heading to cut it off.
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Re: Ekdal
Berge’s touch was poor/heavy. No doubt. But how can it be 100% Berge’s fault when O’Shea’s pass put him in such a situation? They were both a fault. And while we’re at it, a goalkeeper with a bit more experience might arguably have just picked the ball up and calmed the game down instead of playing it out so quickly to O’Shea.Newcastleclaret93 wrote: ↑Wed Dec 06, 2023 9:40 amYep 100% correct.
The chance only comes because of his poor touch. Berge is 100% at fault.
It’s only people with agendas saying O’Shea. Who I thought had a strong game
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