Match thread. Brighton away.

groove · Post by **groove** » Sat Dec 09, 2023 2:10 pm

Could someone paste the line up please?

FCBurnley · Post by **FCBurnley** » Sat Dec 09, 2023 2:13 pm

Another mixed bag from VK

CoolClaret · Post by **CoolClaret** » Sat Dec 09, 2023 2:13 pm

Guddy in for JBL, Odobert in for Koleosho, Beyer in for Ekdal

Come on you Clarets

HahaYeah · Post by **HahaYeah** » Sat Dec 09, 2023 2:13 pm

1 Trafford
22 da Silva
2O 'Shea
5 Beyer
3 Taylor
47 Odobert
16 Berge
8 Brownhill
7 Gudmundsson
9 Rodríguez
25 Amdouni

Substitutes
14 Roberts
15 Redmond
18 Ekdal
19 Zaroury
21 A Ramsey
31 Trésor
34 Bruun Larsen
42 Massengo
49 Muric

bfcjg · Post by **bfcjg** » Sat Dec 09, 2023 2:16 pm

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Ampth7 · Post by **Ampth7** » Sat Dec 09, 2023 2:17 pm

Hope I’m wrong, but I can’t see where the goals are coming from. I would be delighted for someone to repost this message if we now win 3-0!

spt_claret · Post by **spt_claret** » Sat Dec 09, 2023 2:18 pm

Can't say I'm happy with that team.

I said he wouldn't play Ekdal. Kompany just doesn't rate him for some reason, he's always been on the bench if there's been someone else available.
Larsen getting dropped is a joke too frankly. He wasn't good against Wolves (huge part down to being switched left) but was very effective against Sheffield and has generally looked like he can make things happen from the right, and Gudmundsson, experienced, savvy and creative though he is, is so blatantly lacking in the dynamism needed and more a CM than winger nowadays that it's a broken record to reiterate it. Seems that for some players it's 1 sub-par performance and you're done, but for others they may as well be engraved on the teamsheet.
Wouldn't have thrown Odobert in. I know he has had a goal and is similar to Koleosho but he's even more raw and doesn't offer much support to his fullback, would rather have given Zaroury another chance who also has oly had the one game.
No sign of Obafemi again, is he reinjured?
Not confident. Hope it's like when I said Jay wouldn't score vs Sheffield so I'm gonna say "nobody's going to score we'll get thumped 3-0" in the hope I'm once again proved wrong.

CrosspoolClarets · Post by **CrosspoolClarets** » Sat Dec 09, 2023 2:20 pm

Odobert will be playing against Milner - so I get that choice.
Brun Larsen will be knackered - so agree with that too
Ekdal is the one I may have gone the other way
The rest of the team is uncontroversial

bfcjg · Post by **bfcjg** » Sat Dec 09, 2023 2:21 pm

That team has goals written all over it , sadly for Brighton.

gawthorpe_view · Post by **gawthorpe_view** » Sat Dec 09, 2023 2:22 pm

Ekdal should start every game if he's fit.

FCBurnley · Post by **FCBurnley** » Sat Dec 09, 2023 2:23 pm

It seems to me that he picks Trafford then puts all the other names in a lottery draw

CryerBFC · Post by **CryerBFC** » Sat Dec 09, 2023 2:26 pm

Said it the other night, Ekdal looked rusty but a run of games he’d be our best CB. Won’t have the chance to get rid of the rust as VK will bring Beyer back in alongside OShea.

Only way I see JBG having any effect today is if he plays just in front of the midfield two, and Amdouni plays as an inside forward on the right, but we all know that won’t happen.

daveisaclaret · Post by **daveisaclaret** » Sat Dec 09, 2023 2:26 pm

Think he's got the wingers right. We look a tougher side with Gudmondsson playing and we needed to replace Koloesho with one of the pacy lads.

I like Ekdal but don't see all the fuss about him. He's barely played for us and some have decided he's first name on the teamsheet.

KRBFC · Post by **KRBFC** » Sat Dec 09, 2023 2:27 pm

CrosspoolClarets wrote: ↑
Sat Dec 09, 2023 2:20 pm
Odobert will be playing against Milner - so I get that choice.
Brun Larsen will be knackered - so agree with that too
Ekdal is the one I may have gone the other way
The rest of the team is uncontroversial

Ekdal played the full game mid week, after months without a game. I’d bet he’s been advised not to start him two games in 5 days. Or he rates O’Shea higher which I’d be surprised with.

ClaretTony · Post by **ClaretTony** » Sat Dec 09, 2023 2:27 pm

spt_claret wrote: ↑
Sat Dec 09, 2023 2:18 pm
Can't say I'm happy with that team.

I said he wouldn't play Ekdal. Kompany just doesn't rate him for some reason, he's always been on the bench if there's been someone else available.
Larsen getting dropped is a joke too frankly. He wasn't good against Wolves (huge part down to being switched left) but was very effective against Sheffield and has generally looked like he can make things happen from the right, and Gudmundsson, experienced, savvy and creative though he is, is so blatantly lacking in the dynamism needed and more a CM than winger nowadays that it's a broken record to reiterate it. Seems that for some players it's 1 sub-par performance and you're done, but for others they may as well be engraved on the teamsheet.
Wouldn't have thrown Odobert in. I know he has had a goal and is similar to Koleosho but he's even more raw and doesn't offer much support to his fullback, would rather have given Zaroury another chance who also has oly had the one game.
No sign of Obafemi again, is he reinjured?
Not confident. Hope it's like when I said Jay wouldn't score vs Sheffield so I'm gonna say "nobody's going to score we'll get thumped 3-0" in the hope I'm once again proved wrong.

I agree with you that Ekdal was unlikely to play but he’s got himself above Delcroix & Al-Dakhil.

I’d have been surprised had he left JBL in to be honest.

Obafemi - yes he’s injured.

Burnley Ace · Post by **Burnley Ace** » Sat Dec 09, 2023 2:28 pm

Ekdal is coming back from a long term injury, not a chance he was starting today!

Clive 1960 · Post by **Clive 1960** » Sat Dec 09, 2023 2:28 pm

Let's just get behind the team Vincent as put out and hope we can get a result...

Rick_Muller · Post by **Rick_Muller** » Sat Dec 09, 2023 2:29 pm

Got a good feeling about today

ecc · Post by **ecc** » Sat Dec 09, 2023 2:30 pm

KRBFC wrote: ↑
Sat Dec 09, 2023 2:27 pm
Ekdal played the full game mid week, after months without a game. I’d bet he’s been advised not to start him two games in 5 days. Or he rates O’Shea higher which I’d be surprised with.

Based on our knowledge, logic is our only option and thus I think you're almost certainly right, KRBFC. Unfortunately, CBs either start and play 90 minutes or sit it out.

CoolClaret · Post by **CoolClaret** » Sat Dec 09, 2023 2:31 pm

What’s the news on Obafemi? Missing a striker that can run in behind - think I’d have preferred Redmond over one of Jay/Amdouni - not sure that partnership will work but happy to be wrong.

Let’s hope this is a breakout game for young Wilson - clearly got bags of talent, different types of player than Luca think Wilson is more of a goal threat.

KRBFC · Post by **KRBFC** » Sat Dec 09, 2023 2:32 pm

I thought JBL was rubbish against Wolves on both flanks, I’m not a fan of Gudmundsson really but he did create our best chance at Wolves.

beddie · Post by **beddie** » Sat Dec 09, 2023 2:34 pm

Another that’s surprised Ekdal isn’t starting. Also JBL should be ahead of JBG imo. I’d be over the moon with a point but that selection doesn’t inspire me unfortunately.

KRBFC · Post by **KRBFC** » Sat Dec 09, 2023 2:35 pm

And Gudmundsson does offer some experience and defensive work, not sure we can afford two wingers who don’t track back.

Kgun5 · Post by **Kgun5** » Sat Dec 09, 2023 2:36 pm

KRBFC wrote: ↑
Sat Dec 09, 2023 2:32 pm
I thought JBL was rubbish against Wolves on both flanks, I’m not a fan of Gudmundsson really but he did create our best chance at Wolves.

JBG is the only one on our team that can put in a decent cross, it seems. I have no clue why he doesn’t take our corners.

That said, he’s not much of a threat to score on his own and can be pushed off the ball pretty easily. I’d rather see JBL, personally.

simonclaret · Post by **simonclaret** » Sat Dec 09, 2023 2:37 pm

Kgun5 wrote: ↑
Sat Dec 09, 2023 2:36 pm
JBG is the only one on our team that can put in a decent cross, it seems.

Taylor's cross last week wasn't bad.

jojomk1 · Post by **jojomk1** » Sat Dec 09, 2023 2:37 pm

JBG in from a defensive point of view

KRBFC · Post by **KRBFC** » Sat Dec 09, 2023 2:39 pm

Kgun5 wrote: ↑
Sat Dec 09, 2023 2:36 pm
JBG is the only one on our team that can put in a decent cross, it seems. I have no clue why he doesn’t take our corners.

That said, he’s not much of a threat to score on his own and can be pushed off the ball pretty easily. I’d rather see JBL, personally.

I think most would prefer JBL over Gudmundsson because JBG is a steady Eddie type, quite a boring pick but we do seem to play well with Gudmundsson typically. I like Gudmundsson more in that central role last season.

jojomk1 · Post by **jojomk1** » Sat Dec 09, 2023 2:40 pm

CoolClaret wrote: ↑
Sat Dec 09, 2023 2:13 pm
Odobert in for Koleosho,
Come on you Clarets

I thought some people were suggesting wide left was Tresor's strongest position

Kgun5 · Post by **Kgun5** » Sat Dec 09, 2023 2:41 pm

KRBFC wrote: ↑
Sat Dec 09, 2023 2:39 pm
I think most would prefer JBL over Gudmundsson because JBG is a steady Eddie type, quite a boring pick but we do seem to play well with Gudmundsson typically. I like Gudmundsson more in that central role last season.

Agreed. I doubt very much this game will turn on that selection.

spt_claret · Post by **spt_claret** » Sat Dec 09, 2023 2:41 pm

ClaretTony wrote: ↑
Sat Dec 09, 2023 2:27 pm
Obafemi - yes he’s injured.

Jeez, lasted all of 5 minutes.

Feel like we need 2 strikers in January at this rate. If Foster's available by then he won't be because of AFCON.

FCBurnley · Post by **FCBurnley** » Sat Dec 09, 2023 2:42 pm

Milner will slow Ogdobert down with his first tackle. Men against boys

dougcollins · Post by **dougcollins** » Sat Dec 09, 2023 2:43 pm

Obafemi is injured again?

Blimey.

spt_claret · Post by **spt_claret** » Sat Dec 09, 2023 2:43 pm

KRBFC wrote: ↑
Sat Dec 09, 2023 2:39 pm
I like Gudmundsson more in that central role last season.

Same. A central playmaker who can drift wide to put in a cross, hover round the edge of the box to help attacks, or slot in at fullback if one inverts. Looked good in that role and with his lack of pace seems more natural for him now.

burnleymik · Post by **burnleymik** » Sat Dec 09, 2023 2:46 pm

Yeah not convinced with JBG out wife anymore. Would love to see Massengo get some minutes today.

simonclaret · Post by **simonclaret** » Sat Dec 09, 2023 2:47 pm

burnleymik wrote: ↑
Sat Dec 09, 2023 2:46 pm
Yeah not convinced with JBG out wife anymore. Would love to see Massengo get some minutes today.

If we see him that will be good because we'll have killed the game.

willsclarets · Post by **willsclarets** » Sat Dec 09, 2023 2:52 pm

Yep me too. Much prefer pace in wide areas. JBG is more effective centrally. But I suppose its logical to protect vitinho a little down that side and you'd hope he'd offer a little ahead of JBG on occasion. Personally if have maybe dropped Jay or Amdouni, played JBG in centrally with berge and brownhill then put perhaps Ramsay or Tresor wider right

bobinho · Post by **bobinho** » Sat Dec 09, 2023 2:59 pm

simonclaret wrote: ↑
Sat Dec 09, 2023 2:47 pm
If we see him that will be good because we'll have killed the game.

Or there’s five minutes to go and we are one up….

IanMcL · Post by **IanMcL** » Sat Dec 09, 2023 3:02 pm

Come on you Clarets Come on you Clarets Come on you Clarets

Kgun5 · Post by **Kgun5** » Sat Dec 09, 2023 3:03 pm

JBG immediately makes a fool of me on his first corner.

IanMcL · Post by **IanMcL** » Sat Dec 09, 2023 3:04 pm

Good work Odebert corner

simonclaret · Post by **simonclaret** » Sat Dec 09, 2023 3:05 pm

Laughable commentary from Lee Hendrie: "not sure why Odobert is in the side".

CryerBFC · Post by **CryerBFC** » Sat Dec 09, 2023 3:06 pm

Hopefully odobert keeps this up

Longsider · Post by **Longsider** » Sat Dec 09, 2023 3:08 pm

Come on yoooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooou Clarets

Kgun5 · Post by **Kgun5** » Sat Dec 09, 2023 3:10 pm

JBG goes close.

jojomk1 · Post by **jojomk1** » Sat Dec 09, 2023 3:10 pm

simonclaret wrote: ↑
Sat Dec 09, 2023 3:05 pm
Laughable commentary from Lee Hendrie: "not sure why Odobert is in the side".

Got a stream with foreign commentator - much better than Hendrie

Longsider · Post by **Longsider** » Sat Dec 09, 2023 3:10 pm

Bournmouth beating United, Think we can forget Bournmouth being in the relegation mix at the end of the season

Buxtonclaret · Post by **Buxtonclaret** » Sat Dec 09, 2023 3:11 pm

So close!

IanMcL · Post by **IanMcL** » Sat Dec 09, 2023 3:11 pm

Great from Burnley. Just past post from Gudmundsson.

JimmyRobbo · Post by **JimmyRobbo** » Sat Dec 09, 2023 3:11 pm

JBG unlucky there. Burnley have started really well.

Berger looking brilliant, again. Very comfortable with the ball.

jojomk1 · Post by **jojomk1** » Sat Dec 09, 2023 3:11 pm

Hopeless long balls from Trafford