True but still awesome gamealwaysaclaret wrote: ↑Sat Dec 09, 2023 5:19 pmLots more in front of him on the world stage, but great motm performance today.
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It's the same old same old on here. He is either the best in the world or the worst.
Let's just say he has definitely saved us a point today, no doubt about that. He has his weaknesses but he was MOM today. Let's enjoy that but don't suddenly say he is he's the best ever. As always, it's about balance.
Let's just say he has definitely saved us a point today, no doubt about that. He has his weaknesses but he was MOM today. Let's enjoy that but don't suddenly say he is he's the best ever. As always, it's about balance.
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Agree, we need to change the tactics. Stop playing from our own half.
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Exactly that. Clinton Morrison made the point that having watched us several times our biggest downfall is being guilty of “overplaying creating dangerous situations”
Presumably that is all down to VK and the coaching staff but are they prepared to learn and make the change(s).?
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How about just giving credit to young lad instead of mugging him off?CoolClaret wrote: ↑Sat Dec 09, 2023 5:01 pmMade some great saves to keep us in it at the death.
Also made some terrible passes.
The point remains - if we want to maximise his attributes then VK needs to change the playstyle and the way we build ups
It’s not about being overtly emotional “gotcha” takes it’s the facts.
10 saves - phenomenal
35% accurate passing - torrid
Lads had game of his career. (Well 2nd after THAT final)
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Well it’s not is it?Robbie_painter wrote: ↑Sat Dec 09, 2023 5:27 pmI can read and you did,then took it away with your pointless percentages,you prick.
What’s with grown ass men on here that can’t take take an objective point with our lashing out like an overtly emotional man child.
Traff kept us in it at the end - good stuff.
Need to improve though in all facets because we got away with one today.
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You do realise that’s every bit as stupid a comment as those saying he’s one of the worst keepers to play for Burnley ?
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If anyone has an issue with Trafford today then they’re the one with the problem
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I have done?Holtyclaret wrote: ↑Sat Dec 09, 2023 5:29 pmHow about just giving credit to young lad instead of mugging him off?
Lads had game of his career. (Well 2nd after THAT final)
Can no one honestly read on here?
Christ it’s one game. Hysterical some
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Well played, Traff, onwards and upwards!
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Just a nice “well done traff” would’ve been fine but you come out with these made up stats/percentages like you’re some sort of genius and in reality most on here know you spout absolute shite.CoolClaret wrote: ↑Sat Dec 09, 2023 5:30 pmWell it’s not is it?
What’s with grown ass men on here that can’t take take an objective point with our lashing out like an overtly emotional man child.
Traff kept us in it at the end - good stuff.
Need to improve though in all facets because we got away with one today.
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He really hasn’t, he’s coming on leaps a bounds. Particularly last 5-6 games playing behind a more settled side.ClaretsPadiham wrote: ↑Sat Dec 09, 2023 5:21 pm
But… doesn’t change the fact hes been stinking the place out all season.
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“Made up” stats. Thought you’d be into stats ‘FactualFrank’Robbie_painter wrote: ↑Sat Dec 09, 2023 5:33 pmJust a nice “well done traff” would’ve been fine but you come out with these made up stats/percentages like you’re some sort of genius and in reality most on here know you spout absolute shite.
Aye I’m totally making them up.
Sorry what do you want me to say?
Better team today capitalises again - so I’ll repeat myself.
If we want to get results with this lad in net then we need to change the way in which we approach games.
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"made up stats"Robbie_painter wrote: ↑Sat Dec 09, 2023 5:33 pmJust a nice “well done traff” would’ve been fine but you come out with these made up stats/percentages like you’re some sort of genius and in reality most on here know you spout absolute shite.
They're literally easy to look up.
It's so toxic this ****. This stuff contributes to the dickheads who go the other way and act like he's the worst in the world. People ought to be allowed to offer nuance, people ought to be allowed to caution against all or nothing black & white outlooks. I guarantee the people who go overboard in their praise of some go overboard in their criticism of others and vice versa- it's not a stable way of appraising things.
He had a fantastic performance especially the last 20 minutes, as a shot stopper. Pope or Heaton style, won us that point with multiple great great saves. He wasn't absolutely flawless as he did flap at a couple of crosses and his distribution contributed repeatedly to turnovers in possession which inhibited our play. REGARDLESS OF that distribution weakness, it was Trafford who retained us that point, 100%.
Why is that something people can't say?
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Stinking the place out all season? I've not been overly impressed at times, but that's a massive exaggeration.ClaretsPadiham wrote: ↑Sat Dec 09, 2023 5:21 pmUnreal today I’ll give him that. Gained us a point.
But… doesn’t change the fact hes been stinking the place out all season.
Hopefully a huge confidence boost for him and the start of some better performances like today.
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You only need to look who posted it.... It took him a while to find something bad to say about him.... Its usually about 1501hrs......so a little bonus
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Why can't some of you more critical posters just see it for what it is?
Our young players are on a massive learning curve, obviously they will make mistakes.
Trafford is showing improvement, and so are several others.
Give it a rest and enjoy an exciting new era, the negativity does no-one any good.
Our young players are on a massive learning curve, obviously they will make mistakes.
Trafford is showing improvement, and so are several others.
Give it a rest and enjoy an exciting new era, the negativity does no-one any good.
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How many times did Tom Heaton and Nick Pope carry the team when it was struggling. James has joined that league.
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Not allowed in todays like/dislike left/right world apparently.spt_claret wrote: ↑Sat Dec 09, 2023 5:39 pm"made up stats"
They're literally easy to look up.
It's so toxic this ****. This stuff contributes to the dickheads who go the other way and act like he's the worst in the world. People ought to be allowed to offer nuance, people ought to be allowed to caution against all or nothing black & white outlooks. I guarantee the people who go overboard in their praise of some go overboard in their criticism of others and vice versa- it's not a stable way of appraising things.
He had a fantastic performance especially the last 20 minutes, as a shot stopper. Pope or Heaton style, won us that point with multiple great great saves. He wasn't absolutely flawless as he did flap at a couple of crosses and his distribution contributed repeatedly to turnovers in possession which inhibited our play. REGARDLESS OF that distribution weakness, it was Trafford who retained us that point, 100%.
Why is that something people can't say?
Seriously bizarre, bordering on unhinged.
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Yes you gave him the old bullying keyboard warrior one-two.CoolClaret wrote: ↑Sat Dec 09, 2023 5:31 pmI have done?
Can no one honestly read on here?
Christ it’s one game. Hysterical some
Sweetie in one hand and a cosh in the other.
As my gran used to say ‘noone likes a clever sh!t’
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I get that and take it on board but Trafford isn’t the only one in our defence who is incapable of playing the way VK wants them to play.Thought the defence as a whole were superb today despite the obvious giving the ball away trying to play out from the back thing.spt_claret wrote: ↑Sat Dec 09, 2023 5:39 pm"made up stats"
They're literally easy to look up.
It's so toxic this ****. This stuff contributes to the dickheads who go the other way and act like he's the worst in the world. People ought to be allowed to offer nuance, people ought to be allowed to caution against all or nothing black & white outlooks. I guarantee the people who go overboard in their praise of some go overboard in their criticism of others and vice versa- it's not a stable way of appraising things.
He had a fantastic performance especially the last 20 minutes, as a shot stopper. Pope or Heaton style, won us that point with multiple great great saves. He wasn't absolutely flawless as he did flap at a couple of crosses and his distribution contributed repeatedly to turnovers in possession which inhibited our play. REGARDLESS OF that distribution weakness, it was Trafford who retained us that point, 100%.
Why is that something people can't say?
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Yep agreed.CoolClaret wrote: ↑Sat Dec 09, 2023 5:37 pm“Made up” stats. Thought you’d be into stats ‘FactualFrank’
Aye I’m totally making them up.
Sorry what do you want me to say?
Better team today capitalises again - so I’ll repeat myself.
If we want to get results with this lad in net then we need to change the way in which we approach games.
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I don’t think VK has ever claimed his mission was to play only sexy football, sometimes you have to adapt and weather a storm, I thought we did that perfectly today.CoolClaret wrote: ↑Sat Dec 09, 2023 5:12 pmIt was the same in the first half though.
The point still stands. The distribution is chalk and cheese.
If we want a lad that can make reactionary saves behind a deep back four (which then turned into a back five) then yeah great!
Then I’d have to ask - we’re not playing this visionary ‘sexy football’ are we.
Telling that we’ve played our best stuff 4-4-2 and finally got a point away in the PL playing 18 mins 5-4-1.
But here you are, pointing out the negatives after a brilliant result.
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You’re unhinged for emotional outbursts calling people pricks on a messageboard for daring to have an opinion!Robbie_painter wrote: ↑Sat Dec 09, 2023 5:55 pmReplied before I read this,now stand by my first assessment.Youre a prick.
What’s next, offer me out at 3 in the morning like you did to Spiral like the unhinged person that you are?
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Whoosh. We got away with one today in large parts thanks to Trafford’s saves at the death. Nearly beat ourselves again. Still needs to improve but at least we showed resilience
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Fantastic to see him coming of age today. My heart misses a beat everytime we concede a corner but his shot stopping today was beyond reproach.
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I’m the ‘bullying keyboard warrior’ for replying to someone calling me a prick for daring to have my own opinion?Holtyclaret wrote: ↑Sat Dec 09, 2023 5:48 pmYes you gave him the old bullying keyboard warrior one-two.
Sweetie in one hand and a cosh in the other.
As my gran used to say ‘noone likes a clever sh!t’
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Lad did the same at Bolton first 3 months on loan was poor looked weak then picked up the pace looks like he doing the same
he was very good today played well positionally spot on and made some big saves that earned us a point.
he was very good today played well positionally spot on and made some big saves that earned us a point.
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Superb performance.
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No, for your opening comment.CoolClaret wrote: ↑Sat Dec 09, 2023 6:14 pmI’m the ‘bullying keyboard warrior’ for replying to someone calling me a prick for daring to have my own opinion?
You name calling when called out appears to be standard fayre.
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How did we get away with one? Rodriguez had the best chance of the second half.CoolClaret wrote: ↑Sat Dec 09, 2023 6:10 pmWhoosh. We got away with one today in large parts thanks to Trafford’s saves at the death. Nearly beat ourselves again. Still needs to improve but at least we showed resilience
Nearly beat ourselves? More like nearly beat by a top side but we weren’t beat, we stood firm and scrapped for that point.
If we’re just gonna sit here and point out the negatives and what we did wrong after a positive performance and result then what’s the point?
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I’d say giving up 29 shots/11 on target to 6/3 and the obvious point of Traff keeping us in it at the end.KRBFC wrote: ↑Sat Dec 09, 2023 6:23 pmHow did we get away with one? Rodriguez had the best chance of the second half.
Nearly beat ourselves? More like nearly beat by a top side but we weren’t beat, we stood firm and scrapped for that point.
If we’re just gonna sit here and point out the negatives and what we did wrong after a positive performance and result then what’s the point?
The positives are we showed some resilience- finally.
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It's shouldn't surprise that it's taking our manager and players time to settle and show more resilience in this league.CoolClaret wrote: ↑Sat Dec 09, 2023 6:32 pmI’d say giving up 29 shots/11 on target to 6/3 and the obvious point of Traff keeping us in it at the end.
The positives are we showed some resilience- finally.
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We've been on the end of similar stats in previous seasons. Don't worry about it, it ended 1-1CoolClaret wrote: ↑Sat Dec 09, 2023 6:32 pmI’d say giving up 29 shots/11 on target to 6/3 and the obvious point of Traff keeping us in it at the end.
The positives are we showed some resilience- finally.
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It's the truth
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Super display today.
Never really got the cack he's received, as it's been what's in front of him that has been the problem on most occasions.
Never really got the cack he's received, as it's been what's in front of him that has been the problem on most occasions.
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Was good to see we are playing more direct from the back, rather than faffing about all the time.
Nothing wrong with kicking the ball upfield when you have goal kick than messing about.
Nothing wrong with kicking the ball upfield when you have goal kick than messing about.
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Just as I think you could not be any more of a miserable twa-t you start on a new thread to tear into the team on the day we get a good result.
Seriously why do you bother watching football at all ? (let alone supposedly supporting Burnley)
You were even miserable last season.
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Some excellent saves, but shite distribution again...
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The only thing being stunk out is this messageboard. By the usual handful of cocks who can't handle us not being as good as Barcelona or City.ClaretsPadiham wrote: ↑Sat Dec 09, 2023 5:21 pmUnreal today I’ll give him that. Gained us a point.
But… doesn’t change the fact hes been stinking the place out all season.
Hopefully a huge confidence boost for him and the start of some better performances like today.
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Glad he’s made some good saves today and will help his confidence.Hes not been great for large parts of this season. One Swallow….. let’s hope he keeps it up.
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Which it was, your point was it wasn't but between two of you you can't name me another good 45Big Vinny K wrote: ↑Sat Dec 09, 2023 7:01 pmNope - but your pathetic little dig was that was his first good 45 minutes in 16 games
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Some top saves today... well done lad
However, somewhat ironically, it was one of his shite passes into midfield that a BHA player did not control - and that led to our goal
However, somewhat ironically, it was one of his shite passes into midfield that a BHA player did not control - and that led to our goal
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