Trafford

[Anthonini]

Lots more in front of him on the world stage, but great motm performance today.

True but still awesome game

[Goodclaret]

It's the same old same old on here. He is either the best in the world or the worst.

Let's just say he has definitely saved us a point today, no doubt about that. He has his weaknesses but he was MOM today. Let's enjoy that but don't suddenly say he is he's the best ever. As always, it's about balance.

[kentonclaret]

[quote=CoolClaret post_id=2233084 time=1702141289 user_id=3492

The point remains - if we want to maximise his attributes then VK needs to change the playstyle and the way we build ups

Agree, we need to change the tactics. Stop playing from our own half.
[/quote]

Exactly that. Clinton Morrison made the point that having watched us several times our biggest downfall is being guilty of “overplaying creating dangerous situations”
Presumably that is all down to VK and the coaching staff but are they prepared to learn and make the change(s).?

[Holtyclaret]

Made some great saves to keep us in it at the death.

Also made some terrible passes.

The point remains - if we want to maximise his attributes then VK needs to change the playstyle and the way we build ups

It’s not about being overtly emotional “gotcha” takes it’s the facts.

10 saves - phenomenal

35% accurate passing - torrid

How about just giving credit to young lad instead of mugging him off?

Lads had game of his career. (Well 2nd after THAT final)

[CoolClaret]

I can read and you did,then took it away with your pointless percentages,you prick.

Well it’s not is it?

What’s with grown ass men on here that can’t take take an objective point with our lashing out like an overtly emotional man child.

Traff kept us in it at the end - good stuff.

Need to improve though in all facets because we got away with one today.

[Big Vinny K]

One of the best in the world at the moment but keep talking about how he's one of the worst goalkeepers ever to play for Burnley.

What a guy.

You do realise that’s every bit as stupid a comment as those saying he’s one of the worst keepers to play for Burnley ?

[SalisburyClaret]

If anyone has an issue with Trafford today then they’re the one with the problem

[CoolClaret]

How about just giving credit to young lad instead of mugging him off?

Lads had game of his career. (Well 2nd after THAT final)

I have done?

Can no one honestly read on here?

Christ it’s one game. Hysterical some

[Big Vinny K]

45 good minutes out of 16 games, long way to go yet but a step in the right direction.

Embarrassingly pathetic

[boatshed bill]

Well played, Traff, onwards and upwards!

[Robbie_painter]

Well it’s not is it?

What’s with grown ass men on here that can’t take take an objective point with our lashing out like an overtly emotional man child.

Traff kept us in it at the end - good stuff.

Need to improve though in all facets because we got away with one today.

Just a nice “well done traff” would’ve been fine but you come out with these made up stats/percentages like you’re some sort of genius and in reality most on here know you spout absolute shite.

[Holtyclaret]

But… doesn’t change the fact hes been stinking the place out all season.

He really hasn’t, he’s coming on leaps a bounds. Particularly last 5-6 games playing behind a more settled side.

[CoolClaret]

Just a nice “well done traff” would’ve been fine but you come out with these made up stats/percentages like you’re some sort of genius and in reality most on here know you spout absolute shite.

“Made up” stats. Thought you’d be into stats ‘FactualFrank’

Aye I’m totally making them up.

Sorry what do you want me to say?

Better team today capitalises again - so I’ll repeat myself.

If we want to get results with this lad in net then we need to change the way in which we approach games.

[spt_claret]

Just a nice “well done traff” would’ve been fine but you come out with these made up stats/percentages like you’re some sort of genius and in reality most on here know you spout absolute shite.

"made up stats"

They're literally easy to look up.

It's so toxic this ****. This stuff contributes to the dickheads who go the other way and act like he's the worst in the world. People ought to be allowed to offer nuance, people ought to be allowed to caution against all or nothing black & white outlooks. I guarantee the people who go overboard in their praise of some go overboard in their criticism of others and vice versa- it's not a stable way of appraising things.

He had a fantastic performance especially the last 20 minutes, as a shot stopper. Pope or Heaton style, won us that point with multiple great great saves. He wasn't absolutely flawless as he did flap at a couple of crosses and his distribution contributed repeatedly to turnovers in possession which inhibited our play. REGARDLESS OF that distribution weakness, it was Trafford who retained us that point, 100%.
Why is that something people can't say?

[matttheclaret]

Unreal today I’ll give him that. Gained us a point.

But… doesn’t change the fact hes been stinking the place out all season.

Hopefully a huge confidence boost for him and the start of some better performances like today.

Stinking the place out all season? I've not been overly impressed at times, but that's a massive exaggeration.

[Nori1958]

Embarrassingly pathetic

You only need to look who posted it.... It took him a while to find something bad to say about him.... Its usually about 1501hrs......so a little bonus

[boatshed bill]

Why can't some of you more critical posters just see it for what it is?
Our young players are on a massive learning curve, obviously they will make mistakes.
Trafford is showing improvement, and so are several others.
Give it a rest and enjoy an exciting new era, the negativity does no-one any good.

[COBBLE]

How many times did Tom Heaton and Nick Pope carry the team when it was struggling. James has joined that league.

[CoolClaret]

"made up stats"

They're literally easy to look up.

It's so toxic this ****. This stuff contributes to the dickheads who go the other way and act like he's the worst in the world. People ought to be allowed to offer nuance, people ought to be allowed to caution against all or nothing black & white outlooks. I guarantee the people who go overboard in their praise of some go overboard in their criticism of others and vice versa- it's not a stable way of appraising things.

He had a fantastic performance especially the last 20 minutes, as a shot stopper. Pope or Heaton style, won us that point with multiple great great saves. He wasn't absolutely flawless as he did flap at a couple of crosses and his distribution contributed repeatedly to turnovers in possession which inhibited our play. REGARDLESS OF that distribution weakness, it was Trafford who retained us that point, 100%.
Why is that something people can't say?

Not allowed in todays like/dislike left/right world apparently.

Seriously bizarre, bordering on unhinged.

[Holtyclaret]

I have done?

Can no one honestly read on here?

Christ it’s one game. Hysterical some

Yes you gave him the old bullying keyboard warrior one-two.

Sweetie in one hand and a cosh in the other.

As my gran used to say ‘noone likes a clever sh!t’

[Robbie_painter]

"made up stats"

They're literally easy to look up.

It's so toxic this ****. This stuff contributes to the dickheads who go the other way and act like he's the worst in the world. People ought to be allowed to offer nuance, people ought to be allowed to caution against all or nothing black & white outlooks. I guarantee the people who go overboard in their praise of some go overboard in their criticism of others and vice versa- it's not a stable way of appraising things.

He had a fantastic performance especially the last 20 minutes, as a shot stopper. Pope or Heaton style, won us that point with multiple great great saves. He wasn't absolutely flawless as he did flap at a couple of crosses and his distribution contributed repeatedly to turnovers in possession which inhibited our play. REGARDLESS OF that distribution weakness, it was Trafford who retained us that point, 100%.
Why is that something people can't say?

I get that and take it on board but Trafford isn’t the only one in our defence who is incapable of playing the way VK wants them to play.Thought the defence as a whole were superb today despite the obvious giving the ball away trying to play out from the back thing.

[Robbie_painter]

“Made up” stats. Thought you’d be into stats ‘FactualFrank’

Aye I’m totally making them up.

Sorry what do you want me to say?

Better team today capitalises again - so I’ll repeat myself.

If we want to get results with this lad in net then we need to change the way in which we approach games.

Yep agreed.

[KRBFC]

It was the same in the first half though.

The point still stands. The distribution is chalk and cheese.

If we want a lad that can make reactionary saves behind a deep back four (which then turned into a back five) then yeah great!

Then I’d have to ask - we’re not playing this visionary ‘sexy football’ are we.

Telling that we’ve played our best stuff 4-4-2 and finally got a point away in the PL playing 18 mins 5-4-1.

I don’t think VK has ever claimed his mission was to play only sexy football, sometimes you have to adapt and weather a storm, I thought we did that perfectly today.

But here you are, pointing out the negatives after a brilliant result.

[CoolClaret]

Replied before I read this,now stand by my first assessment.Youre a prick.

You’re unhinged for emotional outbursts calling people pricks on a messageboard for daring to have an opinion!

What’s next, offer me out at 3 in the morning like you did to Spiral like the unhinged person that you are?

[CoolClaret]

I don’t think VK has ever claimed his mission was to play only sexy football, sometimes you have to adapt and weather a storm, I thought we did that perfectly today.

But here you are, pointing out the negatives after a brilliant result.

Whoosh. We got away with one today in large parts thanks to Trafford’s saves at the death. Nearly beat ourselves again. Still needs to improve but at least we showed resilience

[JohnMac]

Fantastic to see him coming of age today. My heart misses a beat everytime we concede a corner but his shot stopping today was beyond reproach.

[CoolClaret]

Yes you gave him the old bullying keyboard warrior one-two.

Sweetie in one hand and a cosh in the other.

As my gran used to say ‘noone likes a clever sh!t’

I’m the ‘bullying keyboard warrior’ for replying to someone calling me a prick for daring to have my own opinion?

[watsonsclarets]

Lad did the same at Bolton first 3 months on loan was poor looked weak then picked up the pace looks like he doing the same

he was very good today played well positionally spot on and made some big saves that earned us a point.

[Bordeauxclaret]

Superb performance.

[Holtyclaret]

I’m the ‘bullying keyboard warrior’ for replying to someone calling me a prick for daring to have my own opinion?

No, for your opening comment.

You name calling when called out appears to be standard fayre.

[KRBFC]

Whoosh. We got away with one today in large parts thanks to Trafford’s saves at the death. Nearly beat ourselves again. Still needs to improve but at least we showed resilience

How did we get away with one? Rodriguez had the best chance of the second half.

Nearly beat ourselves? More like nearly beat by a top side but we weren’t beat, we stood firm and scrapped for that point.

If we’re just gonna sit here and point out the negatives and what we did wrong after a positive performance and result then what’s the point?

[CoolClaret]

How did we get away with one? Rodriguez had the best chance of the second half.

Nearly beat ourselves? More like nearly beat by a top side but we weren’t beat, we stood firm and scrapped for that point.

If we’re just gonna sit here and point out the negatives and what we did wrong after a positive performance and result then what’s the point?

I’d say giving up 29 shots/11 on target to 6/3 and the obvious point of Traff keeping us in it at the end.

The positives are we showed some resilience- finally.

[taio]

I’d say giving up 29 shots/11 on target to 6/3 and the obvious point of Traff keeping us in it at the end.

The positives are we showed some resilience- finally.

It's shouldn't surprise that it's taking our manager and players time to settle and show more resilience in this league.

[boatshed bill]

I’d say giving up 29 shots/11 on target to 6/3 and the obvious point of Traff keeping us in it at the end.

The positives are we showed some resilience- finally.

We've been on the end of similar stats in previous seasons. Don't worry about it, it ended 1-1

[bumba]

Embarrassingly pathetic

It's the truth

[taio]

It's the truth

It certainly isn't the truth.

[Bin Ont Turf]

Super display today.

Never really got the cack he's received, as it's been what's in front of him that has been the problem on most occasions.

[Spijed]

Was good to see we are playing more direct from the back, rather than faffing about all the time.

Nothing wrong with kicking the ball upfield when you have goal kick than messing about.

[bumba]

It certainly isn't the truth.

Can you name me the game in which he had another 45 minutes like today's?

[taio]

Can you name me the game in which he had another 45 minutes like today's?

Yes. At home to Manchester United. Just one example.

[Big Vinny K]

It's the truth

Just as I think you could not be any more of a miserable twa-t you start on a new thread to tear into the team on the day we get a good result.
Seriously why do you bother watching football at all ? (let alone supposedly supporting Burnley)
You were even miserable last season.

[Big Vinny K]

Can you name me the game in which he had another 45 minutes like today's?

Nope - but your pathetic little dig was that was his first good 45 minutes in 16 games

[taio]

Can you name me the game in which he had another 45 minutes like today's?

Actually no I can't. I still had I'm my head your original point suggesting he's only had a good 45 mins all season. His performance today has been his best for us.

[claretandy]

Some excellent saves, but shite distribution again...

[fatboy47]

Unreal today I’ll give him that. Gained us a point.

But… doesn’t change the fact hes been stinking the place out all season.

Hopefully a huge confidence boost for him and the start of some better performances like today.

The only thing being stunk out is this messageboard. By the usual handful of cocks who can't handle us not being as good as Barcelona or City.

[Boss Hogg]

Glad he’s made some good saves today and will help his confidence.Hes not been great for large parts of this season. One Swallow….. let’s hope he keeps it up.

[bumba]

Actually no I can't. I still had I'm my head your original point suggesting he's only had a good 45 mins all season. His performance today has been his best for us.

So I'm wrong but you can't name even 45 minutes from 15 to prove it

[bumba]

Nope - but your pathetic little dig was that was his first good 45 minutes in 16 games

Which it was, your point was it wasn't but between two of you you can't name me another good 45

[Vim Fuego]

Some top saves today... well done lad

However, somewhat ironically, it was one of his shite passes into midfield that a BHA player did not control - and that led to our goal

[Big Vinny K]

Which it was, your point was it wasn't but between two of you you can't name me another good 45

Oh do f-uck off you twisted old idiot