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Trafford

Post by Spiral » Sat Dec 09, 2023 4:58 pm

I'll have one large serving of humble pie please.
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Re: Trafford

Post by DAVETHEVICAR » Sat Dec 09, 2023 4:58 pm

He was apparently amazing today
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Re: Trafford

Post by Robbie_painter » Sat Dec 09, 2023 4:59 pm

Spiral wrote:
Sat Dec 09, 2023 4:58 pm
I'll have one large serving of humble pie please.
Man of the match by a long way today

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Re: Trafford

Post by ElectroClaret » Sat Dec 09, 2023 4:59 pm

Well, I've been as critical of him as anyone, but a fabulous display today.

It's one more point than I thought we'd get.

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Re: Trafford

Post by Nori1958 » Sat Dec 09, 2023 4:59 pm

Every independent reporter says he was superb

Let's see what the UTC experts can do to bring that rating down
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Re: Trafford

Post by jdrobbo » Sat Dec 09, 2023 5:00 pm

Absolutely incredible performance in the second half. Incredible!

Well done, Traff!!

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Re: Trafford

Post by Anthonini » Sat Dec 09, 2023 5:01 pm

One of the best in the world at the moment but keep talking about how he's one of the worst goalkeepers ever to play for Burnley.

What a guy.

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Re: Trafford

Post by CoolClaret » Sat Dec 09, 2023 5:01 pm

Made some great saves to keep us in it at the death.

Also made some terrible passes.

The point remains - if we want to maximise his attributes then VK needs to change the playstyle and the way we build ups

It’s not about being overtly emotional “gotcha” takes it’s the facts.

10 saves - phenomenal

35% accurate passing - torrid

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Re: Trafford

Post by Vegas Claret » Sat Dec 09, 2023 5:01 pm

immense today under great pressure too.

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Re: Trafford

Post by ebby » Sat Dec 09, 2023 5:02 pm

If not for him we would have been hammered.

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Re: Trafford

Post by AGENT_CLARET » Sat Dec 09, 2023 5:02 pm

Nori1958 wrote:
Sat Dec 09, 2023 4:59 pm
Every independent reporter says he was superb

Let's see what the UTC experts can do to bring that rating down
Have a day off, if he's received criticism in past game's then he's deserved it, today he was fantastic and deserves the plaudits, it's how it goes
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Re: Trafford

Post by THEWELLERNUT70 » Sat Dec 09, 2023 5:02 pm

Hopefully that match is the making of Trafford because he was outstanding today and fair play to him 🔥🔥🔥
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Re: Trafford

Post by SalisburyClaret » Sat Dec 09, 2023 5:02 pm

Well I’ve said he’s been good all season so I’m having a nice helping of smug pie!
Seriously an outstanding performance

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Re: Trafford

Post by StayingDown4Ever » Sat Dec 09, 2023 5:03 pm

Nori1958 wrote:
Sat Dec 09, 2023 4:59 pm
Every independent reporter says he was superb

Let's see what the UTC experts can do to bring that rating down
8/10 for me, good performance. Couple of good saves and a lot of routine ones. Kicking was woeful again and not convincing on some of the crosses he went for.

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Re: Trafford

Post by taio » Sat Dec 09, 2023 5:03 pm

Top class performance

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Re: Trafford

Post by spt_claret » Sat Dec 09, 2023 5:03 pm

His distribution was shocking but at the most important thing- saving shots- especially in the second half he made some superb saves to keep us in it. Excellent shot stopping performance, not a ball playing keeper but he will be a top top stopper, next Pope for sure.
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Re: Trafford

Post by Murger » Sat Dec 09, 2023 5:03 pm

Anthonini wrote:
Sat Dec 09, 2023 5:01 pm
One of the best in the world at the moment but keep talking about how he's one of the worst goalkeepers ever to play for Burnley.

What a guy.
1 of the best in the world? Wtf? He’s had a great game, but Jesus.
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Re: Trafford

Post by ebby » Sat Dec 09, 2023 5:05 pm

[quote=CoolClaret post_id=2233084 time=1702141289 user_id=3492

The point remains - if we want to maximise his attributes then VK needs to change the playstyle and the way we build ups

It’s not about being overtly emotional “gotcha” takes it’s the facts.

[/quote]

Agree, we need to change the tactics. Stop playing from our own half.

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Re: Trafford

Post by Westleigh » Sat Dec 09, 2023 5:05 pm

CoolClaret wrote:
Sat Dec 09, 2023 5:01 pm
Made some great saves to keep us in it at the death.

Also made some terrible passes.

The point remains - if we want to maximise his attributes then VK needs to change the playstyle and the way we build ups

It’s not about being overtly emotional “gotcha” takes it’s the facts.

10 saves - phenomenal

35% accurate passing - torrid
I’ve had pelters today for slagging him off ,his saves have definitely won us a point but you’ve hit the nail on the head,no doubt you’ll get crucified as well.

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Re: Trafford

Post by Shaggy » Sat Dec 09, 2023 5:06 pm

CoolClaret wrote:
Sat Dec 09, 2023 5:01 pm
Made some great saves to keep us in it at the death.

Also made some terrible passes.

The point remains - if we want to maximise his attributes then VK needs to change the playstyle and the way we build ups

It’s not about being overtly emotional “gotcha” takes it’s the facts.

10 saves - phenomenal



35% accurate passing - torrid

This is correct. Fantastic shot stopping but made some horrendous passes. He done 3 in a row straight Dinks to their midfielder which could have cost us. Also was suspect in the air, flapped at a couple of crosses.

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Re: Trafford

Post by KRBFC » Sat Dec 09, 2023 5:06 pm

CoolClaret wrote:
Sat Dec 09, 2023 5:01 pm

35% accurate passing - torrid
That’s an awful stat though, he was booting it long to Redmond. Rodriguez simply isn’t offering a real target atm either. There was a couple of kicks into midfield which were poor but only because Rodriguez wasn’t dropping to collect.

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Re: Trafford

Post by spt_claret » Sat Dec 09, 2023 5:07 pm

Anthonini wrote:
Sat Dec 09, 2023 5:01 pm
One of the best in the world at the moment but keep talking about how he's one of the worst goalkeepers ever to play for Burnley.

What a guy.
One of the best in the world? You honestly must be related to him.
Literally nobody has ever said he's one of the worst keepers to play for us either, except maybe 1 or 2, possibly the "Foster's pony" fella.
He had a fantastic stopper performance today, won us that point with those 2nd half saves especially in the last 15 minutes or so when everyone else was flagging. Anyone who can't admit that is delusional. But excess praise is no more helpful than excess criticism.
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Re: Trafford

Post by Anthonini » Sat Dec 09, 2023 5:07 pm

Murger wrote:
Sat Dec 09, 2023 5:03 pm
1 of the best in the world? Wtf? He’s had a great game, but Jesus.
Jesus is the best but Trafford is a wall.

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Re: Trafford

Post by BabylonClaret » Sat Dec 09, 2023 5:07 pm

Tbf I think his quick distribution on the ground is pretty good. He struggles more when he has to lift it accurately. 3 absolutely top drawer saves today though.

Though Vitinho was very good too

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Re: Trafford

Post by Claret3495 » Sat Dec 09, 2023 5:07 pm

The home fans were clapping him at the end which says a lot

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Re: Trafford

Post by kentonclaret » Sat Dec 09, 2023 5:08 pm

According to many of the pundits Burnley’s biggest failing is overplaying creating dangerous situations, but presumably that is down to the manager and coaching staff.
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Re: Trafford

Post by taio » Sat Dec 09, 2023 5:08 pm

Anthonini wrote:
Sat Dec 09, 2023 5:01 pm
One of the best in the world at the moment but keep talking about how he's one of the worst goalkeepers ever to play for Burnley.

What a guy.
Do you expect this to be taken seriously?

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Re: Trafford

Post by Bowclaret » Sat Dec 09, 2023 5:08 pm

We have an absolute gem here and most football people know we have. The lad is going right to the top.No doubt about that whatsoever
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Re: Trafford

Post by Kilson810 » Sat Dec 09, 2023 5:09 pm

Superb performance from him. Hope he builds on that going forwards and hopefully the defence have renewed confidence in him as well.
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Re: Trafford

Post by Robbie_painter » Sat Dec 09, 2023 5:09 pm

CoolClaret wrote:
Sat Dec 09, 2023 5:01 pm
Made some great saves to keep us in it at the death.

Also made some terrible passes.

The point remains - if we want to maximise his attributes then VK needs to change the playstyle and the way we build ups

It’s not about being overtly emotional “gotcha” takes it’s the facts.

10 saves - phenomenal

35% accurate passing - torrid
How about sticking your percentages up your arse and giving the lad a bit of credit? Well done traff,gained us a much needed point today.
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Re: Trafford

Post by Westleigh » Sat Dec 09, 2023 5:09 pm

Murger wrote:
Sat Dec 09, 2023 5:03 pm
1 of the best in the world? Wtf? He’s had a great game, but Jesus.
How can anyone win an argument for Muric ,(Trafford best in the World ) get him sold in the New Year ,he must be worth £50 mill ,😂

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Re: Trafford

Post by Steve1956 » Sat Dec 09, 2023 5:09 pm

Been immense all season ..lots on here can't see that....Muric who?
Well played James ..keep improving lots more to come yet.

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Re: Trafford

Post by CryerBFC » Sat Dec 09, 2023 5:10 pm

Making massive improvements, at half time I was thinking who was warranting of MOTM, probably Odobert. But that second half and some of the saves makes him my MOM today.

It is still worrying how often his longer kicks are basically possession lost, not saying it is entirely his fault, sometimes the hold play is poor, but a few times he is at fault.

The ball in the first half aimed at JBG was Muric'esque, and last season with the likes of Tella running on to them, or even if JBL was there, that would have been brought down and a chance through on goal.

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Re: Trafford

Post by ElectroClaret » Sat Dec 09, 2023 5:10 pm

Anthonini wrote:
Sat Dec 09, 2023 5:01 pm
One of the best in the world at the moment
..
:lol: :lol: :lol:
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Re: Trafford

Post by Acting Claret » Sat Dec 09, 2023 5:10 pm

I thought he should have come for the cross to stop the goal. Hopefully this will boost his confidence. He was smiling at the end.

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Re: Trafford

Post by Westleigh » Sat Dec 09, 2023 5:11 pm

Robbie_painter wrote:
Sat Dec 09, 2023 5:09 pm
How about sticking your percentages up your arse and giving the lad a bit of credit? Well done traff,gained us a much needed point today.
It only means he gave the ball away 65% of the time,VK’s build a team out of stats .

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Re: Trafford

Post by Anthonini » Sat Dec 09, 2023 5:11 pm

taio wrote:
Sat Dec 09, 2023 5:08 pm
Do you expect this to be taken seriously?
Once he gets called up you will. He's by far the most underrated Burnley player. These kind of performances are to expect from him. He needed to adjust to the league the same as all the rest of our players. If he can keep making progress the way he's doing now he's going to win us alot more games.

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Re: Trafford

Post by Vegas Claret » Sat Dec 09, 2023 5:12 pm

JJ agrees
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Re: Trafford

Post by CoolClaret » Sat Dec 09, 2023 5:12 pm

KRBFC wrote:
Sat Dec 09, 2023 5:06 pm
That’s an awful stat though, he was booting it long to Redmond. Rodriguez simply isn’t offering a real target atm either. There was a couple of kicks into midfield which were poor but only because Rodriguez wasn’t dropping to collect.
It was the same in the first half though.

The point still stands. The distribution is chalk and cheese.

If we want a lad that can make reactionary saves behind a deep back four (which then turned into a back five) then yeah great!

Then I’d have to ask - we’re not playing this visionary ‘sexy football’ are we.

Telling that we’ve played our best stuff 4-4-2 and finally got a point away in the PL playing 18 mins 5-4-1.

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Re: Trafford

Post by Steve1956 » Sat Dec 09, 2023 5:12 pm

Robbie_painter wrote:
Sat Dec 09, 2023 5:09 pm
How about sticking your percentages up your arse and giving the lad a bit of credit? Well done traff,gained us a much needed point today.
This^

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Re: Trafford

Post by Buxtonclaret » Sat Dec 09, 2023 5:13 pm

Do his confidence a world of good.
He's so young.
Some cracking saves today. Won us the point.

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Re: Trafford

Post by CoolClaret » Sat Dec 09, 2023 5:13 pm

Robbie_painter wrote:
Sat Dec 09, 2023 5:09 pm
How about sticking your percentages up your arse and giving the lad a bit of credit? Well done traff,gained us a much needed point today.
If you could read you’d see that I did, you pleb

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Re: Trafford

Post by taio » Sat Dec 09, 2023 5:15 pm

Anthonini wrote:
Sat Dec 09, 2023 5:11 pm
Once he gets called up you will. He's by far the most underrated Burnley player. These kind of performances are to expect from him. He needed to adjust to the league the same as all the rest of our players. If he can keep making progress the way he's doing now he's going to win us alot more games.
You said he's one of the best in the world at the moment which is quite frankly laughable.
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Re: Trafford

Post by Buxtonclaret » Sat Dec 09, 2023 5:17 pm

Claret3495 wrote:
Sat Dec 09, 2023 5:07 pm
The home fans were clapping him at the end which says a lot
They'll still be calling him a lucky cnut on their NorthStand site!
They love to hate us on there. :lol:

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Re: Trafford

Post by Commy » Sat Dec 09, 2023 5:17 pm

Well, we went for him because Brighton signed the one we wanted, and he hasn't impressed me at all when I have watched them. He is good with his feet but flaps at almost every cross and got away with one today because they got a foul from somewhere, where I don't know. I think Trafford will turn out the best of the two.

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Re: Trafford

Post by bumba » Sat Dec 09, 2023 5:18 pm

Spiral wrote:
Sat Dec 09, 2023 4:58 pm
I'll have one large serving of humble pie please.
Great second half, couple of excellent saves but some others I'd expect any keeper to be made.
45 good minutes out of 16 games, long way to go yet but a step in the right direction.

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Re: Trafford

Post by bobinho » Sat Dec 09, 2023 5:18 pm

AGENT_CLARET wrote:
Sat Dec 09, 2023 5:02 pm
Have a day off, if he's received criticism in past game's then he's deserved it, today he was fantastic and deserves the plaudits, it's how it goes
To be fair, he’s also received criticisms in games when he HASN'T deserved it.

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Re: Trafford

Post by alwaysaclaret » Sat Dec 09, 2023 5:19 pm

Anthonini wrote:
Sat Dec 09, 2023 5:01 pm
One of the best in the world at the moment but keep talking about how he's one of the worst goalkeepers ever to play for Burnley.

What a guy.
Lots more in front of him on the world stage, but great motm performance today.

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Re: Trafford

Post by Anthonini » Sat Dec 09, 2023 5:20 pm

taio wrote:
Sat Dec 09, 2023 5:15 pm
You said he's one of the best in the world at the moment which is quite frankly laughable.
Don't kill my buzz.

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Re: Trafford

Post by ClaretsPadiham » Sat Dec 09, 2023 5:21 pm

Unreal today I’ll give him that. Gained us a point.

But… doesn’t change the fact hes been stinking the place out all season.

Hopefully a huge confidence boost for him and the start of some better performances like today.

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