Everton is massive

Bowclaret · Post by **Bowclaret** » Sat Dec 09, 2023 5:40 pm

We need every single Claret right behind us next week. Flags, scarves, you name it !!!!

Could be an absolute season changer this one and we know they will be up for it - We Definitely Will Be

I’ll be on crutches but I will be kicking every single ball.

Simply, COME ON YOU CLARETS

NewClaret · Post by **NewClaret** » Sat Dec 09, 2023 5:42 pm

Agree. Hope the club do something to help make it a huge atmosphere.

(Not a drummer or selling flags without poles

)

Holtyclaret · Post by **Holtyclaret** » Sat Dec 09, 2023 5:44 pm

They’re all massive. Everton won’t get dragged back into it.

Bosscat · Post by **Bosscat** » Sat Dec 09, 2023 5:45 pm

Definitely a "Lets be 'avin you" for the fans next Saturday ... Get behind the lads and push them on

bobinho · Post by **bobinho** » Sat Dec 09, 2023 5:46 pm

Everton are out of it.

spt_claret · Post by **spt_claret** » Sat Dec 09, 2023 5:48 pm

bobinho wrote: ↑
Sat Dec 09, 2023 5:46 pm
Everton are out of it.

They are but not the point, Forest, Palace, etc. might still drop into the mire, a miracle win would give us a massive boosted chance of survival.

Vegas Claret · Post by **Vegas Claret** » Sat Dec 09, 2023 5:48 pm

Everton have won their last 3 away games, gonna be a tough game but at some point our luck has to change

Swizzlestick · Post by **Swizzlestick** » Sat Dec 09, 2023 5:50 pm

They're out of nothing. Can we stop white flagging it, and show a bit of bottle now, as it looks like the team are.

taio · Post by **taio** » Sat Dec 09, 2023 5:50 pm

Huge game. And hopefully the supporters play their part.

HahaYeah · Post by **HahaYeah** » Sat Dec 09, 2023 5:54 pm

I'm more apprehensive about Everton than I was against Brighton.

Buzzing after beating Newcastle.

The muppets are bound to boo Dwight McNeil so we know what that means then you have Dyche and Tarky.

No Taylor.

I would take a point now.

Quickenthetempo · Post by **Quickenthetempo** » Sat Dec 09, 2023 6:05 pm

We have the best record against Everton out of all other prem club's we have played.
Or the most wins against them?

mybloodisclaret · Post by **mybloodisclaret** » Sat Dec 09, 2023 6:08 pm

Really looking forward to it. No boo's for the old Clarets in their camp from me..... but

% noise supporting the Clarets from my little part if the CFS.

CrosspoolClarets · Post by **CrosspoolClarets** » Sat Dec 09, 2023 6:19 pm

One thing is for sure, we are getting closer to the “established” teams. We now need to turn performances into wins. Bournemouth are showing us what a run of them can do.

The atmosphere next Saturday could be incredible. We have to be as up for it as Sean and his merry crew will be. Let’s not forget he will want to stuff the owners who sacked him.

Jakubclaret · Post by **Jakubclaret** » Sat Dec 09, 2023 6:20 pm

taio wrote: ↑
Sat Dec 09, 2023 5:50 pm
Huge game. And hopefully the supporters play their part.

It's no bigger than any other game aside from our relegation rivals even though everton's position may be close to ours it's a common held belief that everton are too good to be relegated & are no rivals to us. 3 points will be welcome but you can say that for every game we play.

taio · Post by **taio** » Sat Dec 09, 2023 6:24 pm

Jakubclaret wrote: ↑
Sat Dec 09, 2023 6:20 pm
It's no bigger than any other game aside from our relegation rivals even though everton's position may be close to ours it's a common held belief that everton are too good to be relegated & are no rivals to us. 3 points will be welcome but you can say that for every game we play.

It appears you're suggesting I said it was bigger than any other game. I didn't. You may also be suggesting that I said Everton might well get relegated. I didn't.

Jakubclaret · Post by **Jakubclaret** » Sat Dec 09, 2023 6:27 pm

taio wrote: ↑
Sat Dec 09, 2023 6:24 pm
It appears you're suggesting I said it was bigger than any other game. I didn't. You may also be suggesting that I said Everton might well get relegated. I didn't.

You didn't but using the word huge could be interpreted as that, if the everton game is huge every game is huge & the games against luton & Sheffield United are even bigger.

taio · Post by **taio** » Sat Dec 09, 2023 6:29 pm

Jakubclaret wrote: ↑
Sat Dec 09, 2023 6:27 pm
You didn't but using the word huge could be interpreted as that, if everton are huge every game is huge & the games against luton & Sheffield United are even bigger.

Correct - I didn't.

Every game, especially at home, is huge right now because we need to start picking up more points very soon.

Jakubclaret · Post by **Jakubclaret** » Sat Dec 09, 2023 6:33 pm

taio wrote: ↑
Sat Dec 09, 2023 6:29 pm
Correct - I didn't.

Every game, especially at home, is huge right now because we need to start picking up more points very soon.

True, everton are no different than any other & just to be sure so there's no misunderstandings I'm not suggesting you have stated otherwise.

Steve1956 · Post by **Steve1956** » Sat Dec 09, 2023 6:35 pm

Absolutely no more massive than any other game whatsoever.

Spijed · Post by **Spijed** » Sat Dec 09, 2023 6:35 pm

Some may look at the table and say Everton are not out of it. But if they hadn't got the points deducted they'd be top half which suggests they've got players who are simply too good to go down.

claretspice · Post by **claretspice** » Sat Dec 09, 2023 6:44 pm

Its massive in the sense that the next two games are chances for points before a couple of games that look tough on paper, and when you have 8 points from 16 games you are running very short of chances to resurrect the season.

Rick_Muller · Post by **Rick_Muller** » Sat Dec 09, 2023 8:46 pm

I can’t wait. I hope we give the ex clarets a warm welcome before kick off and kindly applause them all as they were all great servants for our club.

Then after kick off, I want Turf Moor to be as hostile as I could possibly imagine and hope we send them home with no points for them.

willsclarets · Post by **willsclarets** » Sat Dec 09, 2023 8:59 pm

Everton are no better that West ham, and we definitely should've gotten a point if not 3. Definitely should've beaten Palace, a point at wolves possibly and I thought we were decent for long periods against arsenal. In short, we can compete against Everton.

I always felt under Dyche we were weakest in the channels and from pullbacks on the byline with midfielders arriving in the box. We have the players to do that, certainly more than delivering crosses into tarks who will just eat them up.

ElectroClaret · Post by **ElectroClaret** » Sat Dec 09, 2023 11:05 pm

claretspice wrote: ↑
Sat Dec 09, 2023 6:44 pm
Its massive in the sense that the next two games are chances for points before a couple of games that look tough on paper, and when you have 8 points from 16 games you are running very short of chances to resurrect the season.

Spot on, Spice.
As someone posted this week, if we're in touch with 17th place at the back end of January, then we have a real fighting chance. The Everton game is a pretty good chance to get three more points on the board before the tougher games (on paper) kick in.
So yes, all games are massive for us, but beat Everton, and it's a real morale boost as well as three points.

UTC.

ArmchairDetective · Post by **ArmchairDetective** » Sun Dec 10, 2023 10:50 am

It's a tough game to win but one that we're capable of winning. As we know, Dyche's teams aren't renowned for their comebacks. Start strong as we usually do and we have a good chance.

On Everton generally, I don't think they'll be down there at the end of the season. That's not waving the white flag as suggested above. I think we have enough to catch other teams but that won't be Everton. Doesn't mean the Everton game isn't winnable though.

Darnhill Claret · Post by **Darnhill Claret** » Sun Dec 10, 2023 11:02 am

Massive game as in 'the next game' is always massive whoever we play. The ex Burnley connection just adds another dimension which I'm sure the media will hype up as well. Not interested in where other teams will finish just hope that we can get out of the bottom 3.

ClaretPete001 · Post by **ClaretPete001** » Sun Dec 10, 2023 1:29 pm

Everton will be very difficult to beat because they are good away from home and can quickly turn into a 4-5-1, which will be very difficult to score against.

They also have a goal scoring centre-mid who plays in front of the midfield and a battling big centre forward.

Much more difficult game for us than Brighton because they will be happy to do a Palace, sit in and wait for the mistakes.

I hope we don't boo Mc Neil he was good for us and we got a good fee for him: no one can complain.

jlup1980 · Post by **jlup1980** » Sun Dec 10, 2023 1:38 pm

I can't see anything other than an easy afternoon for Sean. Losing Taylor is a massive blow. We'll probably end up with Vitinho at left back and Roberts at right back, which simply won't be physical enough against them. Ekdal has to come in and replace Taylor's height for me. Quite how that looks on the pitch I don't know though. They're a good side though - a comfortable top 10 side now SD has sorted them out. Another tough game for Vinny to navigate.

ElectroClaret · Post by **ElectroClaret** » Sun Dec 10, 2023 2:47 pm

Rick_Muller wrote: ↑
Sat Dec 09, 2023 8:46 pm
I can’t wait. I hope we give the ex clarets a warm welcome before kick off and kindly applause them all as they were all great servants for our club.

Absolutely.
It'd be a great shame if SD got stick after all he did for the club. (That marvelous first win at Deadwood stands out for me). Ex players as well.

Elizabeth · Post by **Elizabeth** » Sun Dec 10, 2023 5:03 pm

Really set up for a memorable game. Can't wait!

spt_claret · Post by **spt_claret** » Sun Dec 10, 2023 5:08 pm

ClaretPete001 wrote: ↑
Sun Dec 10, 2023 1:29 pm
Everton will be very difficult to beat because they are good away from home and can quickly turn into a 4-5-1, which will be very difficult to score against.

They also have a goal scoring centre-mid who plays in front of the midfield and a battling big centre forward.

Two points worth highlighting for those who do Dyche down as an unimaginative 442 hoofman (ignoring that we've been better switching to an offset 442 ala Vings and going a bit more direct in the opposition half)

Everton can switch setup and can do it without needing to switch players, and Dyche converting Doucoure to an attacking midfielder has been surprisingly effective. Check his heatmaps pre Dyche vs now he was a defensive midfielder or box to box brute, he's much more attacking and side to side now and it's unfortunately working well.

We've got a physical fight on our hands against them but it's a tactical one too. I think even with Taylor out we can get a result but it's going to be hard.

Westleigh · Post by **Westleigh** » Sun Dec 10, 2023 5:10 pm

ElectroClaret wrote: ↑
Sun Dec 10, 2023 2:47 pm
Absolutely.
It'd be a great shame if SD got stick after all he did for the club. (That marvelous first win at Deadwood stands out for me). Ex players as well.

There’s no way either SD ,Tarks,or McNeil should be booed ,SD & McNeil didn’t want to leave Tarks ran his contract down but always gave 100%.

Claretnick · Post by **Claretnick** » Sun Dec 10, 2023 5:14 pm

Westleigh wrote: ↑
Sun Dec 10, 2023 5:10 pm
There’s no way either SD ,Tarks,or McNeil should be booed ,SD & McNeil didn’t want to leave Tarks ran his contract down but always gave 100%.

Anybody giving stick to those 3 guys need to look at themselves.
SD is the best manager during my time as a fan since 1967, and the other 2 guys gave their all when they could. They will always be a Claret, but I still want us to beat them on Saturday. UTC

jojomk1 · Post by **jojomk1** » Sun Dec 10, 2023 5:26 pm

It will be a very hard game
Everton will try to "bully" us all over the pitch
Take a point now

kentonclaret · Post by **kentonclaret** » Sun Dec 10, 2023 5:29 pm

Darnhill Claret wrote: ↑
Sun Dec 10, 2023 11:02 am
Massive game as in 'the next game' is always massive whoever we play. The ex Burnley connection just adds another dimension which I'm sure the media will hype up as well. Not interested in where other teams will finish just hope that we can get out of the bottom 3.

During the Spurs v Newcastle game the commentator looked forward to next weekend’s Sky offerings and after mentioning Burnley v Everton next Saturday evening he remarked “It all surrounds Sean Dyche”.

chekhov · Post by **chekhov** » Sun Dec 10, 2023 5:33 pm

Bosscat wrote: ↑
Sat Dec 09, 2023 5:45 pm
Definitely a "Lets be 'avin you" for the fans next Saturday ... Get behind the lads and push them on

So who’s our Delia Smith then?

chekhov · Post by **chekhov** » Sun Dec 10, 2023 5:35 pm

kentonclaret wrote: ↑
Sun Dec 10, 2023 5:29 pm
During the Spurs v Newcastle game the commentator looked forward to next weekend’s Sky offerings and after mentioning Burnley v Everton next Saturday evening he remarked “It all surrounds Sean Dyche”.

Very true. It’s the Sean Dyche derby.

jdrobbo · Post by **jdrobbo** » Sun Dec 10, 2023 5:48 pm

Branthwaite suspended. Their player of the season so far.

HahaYeah · Post by **HahaYeah** » Sun Dec 10, 2023 5:51 pm

chekhov wrote: ↑
Sun Dec 10, 2023 5:33 pm
So who’s our Delia Smith then?

It's Kompanys vol au vents versus Dyches meat and potatoes.

AlargeClaret · Post by **AlargeClaret** » Sun Dec 10, 2023 6:07 pm

We’ve already played Everton once this season , SD will get a deserved welcome though McNeil behaved like a total bellend in the cup game so might get a bit of stick . It’s amazing how quick though you forget ex players, Ings hasn’t registered for yrs and neither has Trippier and plenty more you simply forget are even playing .

chekhov · Post by **chekhov** » Sun Dec 10, 2023 6:10 pm

HahaYeah wrote: ↑
Sun Dec 10, 2023 5:51 pm
It's Kompanys vol au vents versus Dyches meat and potatoes.

Isn’t Dyche partial to worms?

jdrobbo · Post by **jdrobbo** » Sun Dec 10, 2023 6:11 pm

Apologies, Branthwaite and Gueye suspended

Carlos the Great · Post by **Carlos the Great** » Sun Dec 10, 2023 6:35 pm

I think a lot of people a bit confused thinking because Everton hovering around us in the league it’s like a battle at the bottom …they are in much better form than us and without their 10 point penalty would be in top 8 I think

jojomk1 · Post by **jojomk1** » Sun Dec 10, 2023 6:59 pm

Carlos the Great wrote: ↑
Sun Dec 10, 2023 6:35 pm
I think a lot of people a bit confused thinking because Everton hovering around us in the league it’s like a battle at the bottom …they are in much better form than us and without their 10 point penalty would be in top 8 I think

Dyche has them playing well - and not just hoofball
McNeil and Harrison look good out wide
Strong and have pace in midfield
And if Calvert-Lewin is fit ?

Tough night for us - just ask Chelsea after today

Ampth7 · Post by **Ampth7** » Sun Dec 10, 2023 7:19 pm

jojomk1 wrote: ↑
Sun Dec 10, 2023 6:59 pm
Dyche has them playing well - and not just hoofball
McNeil and Harrison look good out wide
Strong and have pace in midfield
And if Calvert-Lewin is fit ?

Tough night for us - just ask Chelsea after today

Yep, a tough game again no doubt. They don’t concede much either so we will have to take our chances when they come.

Burnley1989 · Post by **Burnley1989** » Sun Dec 10, 2023 7:23 pm

Swizzlestick wrote: ↑
Sat Dec 09, 2023 5:50 pm
They're out of nothing. Can we stop white flagging it, and show a bit of bottle now, as it looks like the team are.

Everton are a really good side, they won’t finish anywhere near the bottom 3

Carlos the Great · Post by **Carlos the Great** » Sun Dec 10, 2023 7:59 pm

I would like to add I hope I don’t hear too much booing of Dwight McNeil .: for one igs totally unwarranted plus I don’t want him scoring a hatrick ..

ClaretOfMancunia · Post by **ClaretOfMancunia** » Sun Dec 10, 2023 8:03 pm

Why have we lost Taylor? Too many yellows?

Corway · Post by **Corway** » Sun Dec 10, 2023 9:00 pm

McNeil back to his best running the game and scoring Tarks will be goal threat at Corners - it will be hard to take a point. Fingers crossed.

Bosscat · Post by **Bosscat** » Sun Dec 10, 2023 9:06 pm

ClaretOfMancunia wrote: ↑
Sun Dec 10, 2023 8:03 pm
Why have we lost Taylor? Too many yellows?

Picked up his 5th on Saturday