todays footy - Sunday 10th

[CrosspoolClarets]

Two wins and about £50m are about the max we can get from Everton this season, no chance they are a relegation rival so it doesn’t really matter if their points penalty is expunged.

Table now reverting to “type” with only 4 teams (excluding Everton) under a point per game.

[Newcastleclaret93]

Two wins and about £50m are about the max we can get from Everton this season, no chance they are a relegation rival so it doesn’t really matter if their points penalty is expunged.

Table now reverting to “type” with only 4 teams (excluding Everton) under a point per game.

Been reported the three clubs have pulled out of sueing Everton.

[Spijed]

Sean has earned his money which is more than can be said for Poch .How shite are Chelsea? spend millions and still can't build a decent team

And some think he's a better manager than SD.

[Stayingup]

Bottom three in the Prem pretty well cut adrift now. Emphasising the gulf between the EPL and the Championship.

[Stayingup]

Been reported the three clubs have pulled out of sueing Everton.

Do you think these three clubs might have been 'paid off'?

[Newcastleclaret93]

Do you think these three clubs might have been 'paid off'?

Probably realised there wasn’t much chance they could get anything

[FCBurnley]

Everton will be way too physically strong for us. Weird PL right now.Top teams struggling and teams like Fulham Bournemouth and Everton on fire. The three bottom clubs were all promoted. Liverpool at the top. City Spurs and Newcastle all looking poor by their standards. Outsiders for relegation are Forest and Palace and maybe Brentford who were shocking yesterday !!!

[willsclarets]

Bottom three in the Prem pretty well cut adrift now. Emphasising the gulf between the EPL and the Championship.

That ridiculous VAR decision against forest is looking a bit costly

[Pearcey]

Not a surprise that Everton are doing well with SD in charge is it? Mocked by some on here but he’s still proving to be an excellent manager at this level. Hopefully VK will learn from his first season and push on with us.

[claretandy]

Been reported the three clubs have pulled out of sueing Everton.

It was reported that they were looking to negotiate a settlement.

[beddie]

Not a bad Manager is he that Sean Dyche.

[CryerBFC]

Burnley women through to the next round of the FA Cup with an 11-0 victory.

Well done to them!

[kentonclaret]

Bottom three in the Prem pretty well cut adrift now. Emphasising the gulf between the EPL and the Championship.

Just to confirm the point the 3 clubs relegated from the PL currently sit in the top 4 of the Championship.

[ClaretLoup]

Clarets Women win their FA Cup Round 3 tie 11-0 with three hat tricks.

[ksrclaret]

Next Saturday will certainly be a game full of contrast.

[Stayingup]

Not a surprise that Everton are doing well with SD in charge is it? Mocked by some on here but he’s still proving to be an excellent manager at this level. Hopefully VK will learn from his first season and push on with us.

I'm positive that VK will improve the team. He's learning as we saw yesterday. The problem is that with style of football he wants the team to play the players have to be very good to survive in this league. It will be interesting. Dyche's teams were coached to play to their main strengths - generally relying on solid defence. As Dyche has said he would have changed the style had he had 50 million footballers at his disposal.

[Bosscat]

Son sets up Richarlison for Spuds number two...

He (Son) is a wonderful footballer

[GodIsADeeJay81]

Not a surprise that Everton are doing well with SD in charge is it? Mocked by some on here but he’s still proving to be an excellent manager at this level. Hopefully VK will learn from his first season and push on with us.

Better overall quality of sways that needed better motivation

He was always going to make it work there

Only the divs who hate him were adamant he’d fail

[Westleigh]

Tripps having another Mare.

[Goodclaret]

I know Spurs are a good side but how the hell are Newcastle this bad?

[boatshed bill]

Not a surprise that Everton are doing well with SD in charge is it? Mocked by some on here but he’s still proving to be an excellent manager at this level. Hopefully VK will learn from his first season and push on with us.

I sort of agree but, given the investment they've had over several years, it's obvious that Everton had been underachieving.
Well done to Dyche for bringing them up towards where they should be.

[Stayingup]

Chelsea, West Ham Man U and the leagues richest club all in a tail spin at the moment. Hope it continues and we get some luck.

[Goodclaret]

I think Romero is a very lucky boy there. Red for me.

[Conroysleftfoot]

How does Romero stay on the pitch after the assault on Wilson?

[Somethingfishy]

Romero on Wilson...another clear as day red and it's cleared by VAR. Following on from the Brown on Foden one earlier. What exactly is going wrong with refs and VAR? Have they been instructed to suddenly become more lenient? I'm at a loss by it all now.

[Westleigh]

Steady Eddie might be coming under pressure.

[StayingDown4Ever]

Tripps having another Mare.

He’s been absolutely humiliated for the second time in a week.

[Roosterbooster]

I think Romero is a very lucky boy there. Red for me.

I cant think of any good reason why that's not a red. It looked bad on normal viewing. Every replay just confirms red. Bizarre

[bobinho]

Steady Eddie might be coming under pressure.

No might about it for me… I reckon the owners have been crammed as wasps while the results and performances have been good. These recent results might well be all the excuse they need to get their man in…. Whoever their man is.

[Goddy]

I cant think of any good reason why that's not a red. It looked bad on normal viewing. Every replay just confirms red. Bizarre

Well Ref Watch tomorrow should be interesting with Dermot Gallacher trying to justify why Romero wasn't sent off. Nailed on red imho

[jrgbfc]

Newcastle just look knackered, getting knocked out of Europe this week might be the best outcome for them.

[Stayingup]

I know Spurs are a good side but how the hell are Newcastle this bad?

Because the Pontiff wasn't there.

[ISpeds00]

Girona - Prooving to be a very good side in La Liga

[claretburns]

A brilliant 4-2 win for Girona away at Barcelona to go back to the top of La Liga.

[IanMcL]

A brilliant 4-2 win for Girona away at Barcelona to go back to the top of La Liga.

That won't go down well in Catalunya, where they rely on their 'big team' to promote the area, rather than their wee main place.

[Vegas Claret]

Been reported the three clubs have pulled out of sueing Everton.

where have you seen that mate ?

[claretandy]

where have you seen that mate ?

It was reported in the daily mail that the 3 clubs didn't want to be blamed for Everton going into administration so are looking to negotiate a settlement instead.

[Newcastleclaret93]

It was reported in the daily mail that the 3 clubs didn't want to be blamed for Everton going into administration so are looking to negotiate a settlement instead.

Everton are in an interesting situation, if they agree to a settlement then they are admitting they are guilty and there ten point deduction can’t be argued.

However, there current stance is they haven’t done anything wrong and the points deduction is being appealed.

I find it rather strange the three clubs are potentially going to miss the cut off period for an official appeal when Everton have made it clear they don’t believe they have done anything wrong.

[ClaretOfMancunia]

Everton are in an interesting situation, if they agree to a settlement then they are admitting they are guilty and there ten point deduction can’t be argued.

However, there current stance is they haven’t done anything wrong and the points deduction is being appealed.

I find it rather strange the three clubs are potentially going to miss the cut off period for an official appeal when Everton have made it clear they don’t believe they have done anything wrong.

Sorry but this is rubbish, where are you getting this from??

Everton aren't appealing because they "don't believe they've done anything wrong" - they actually admitted many of the breaches that were levelled at them in the initial investigation. They've already admitted their guilt in that respect.

What they're actually appealing is that the 10pt deduction they were subsequently given is an unnecessarily harsh punishment and want it reducing.

[Newcastleclaret93]

Sorry but this is rubbish, where are you getting this from??

Everton aren't appealing because they "don't believe they've done anything wrong" - they actually admitted many of the breaches that were levelled at them in the initial investigation. They've already admitted their guilt in that respect.

What they're actually appealing is that the 10pt deduction they were subsequently given is an unnecessarily harsh punishment and want it reducing.

Well not exactly, they believe they haven’t done anything wrong due to the mitigating circumstances they have listed.

1. The war in Ukraine cost them many millions (some sources saying 200m).
2. New stadium costs soaring with cost of living
3. Covid dramatically decreased club power of selling.

They have argued that all of the above are reasons they shouldn’t be punished. There argument is they could have gone into administration and not received such a harsh point deduction.

[ClaretOfMancunia]

Yes, they have given mitigating circumstances as to why a 10pt deduction is unnecessarily harsh.

But the statement you made:

"they are admitting they are guilty and there ten point deduction can’t be argued."

Is just flat out wrong. They have both already admitted guilt and are currently appealing the subsequent punishment. Nor does this preclude other clubs from taking punitive action for damages.

[claretonthecoast1882]

Everton are in an interesting situation, if they agree to a settlement then they are admitting they are guilty and there ten point deduction can’t be argued.

However, there current stance is they haven’t done anything wrong and the points deduction is being appealed.

I find it rather strange the three clubs are potentially going to miss the cut off period for an official appeal when Everton have made it clear they don’t believe they have done anything wrong.

You would be better off waiting for announcements, how you have read anything and come to this level of nonsense is really weird.

[Newcastleclaret93]

You would be better off waiting for announcements, how you have read anything and come to this level of nonsense is really weird.

Perhaps how I have just interpreted it? But surely if your providing mitigating circumstances your effectively saying that you don’t believe you are guilty and it was out of there control?

[ClaretOfMancunia]

But surely if your providing mitigating circumstances your effectively saying that you don’t believe you are guilty and it was out of there control?

No, that's adding 1+1 and getting 3.

As I stated above, they have already admitted guilt. They admit they broke the rules. They have provided mitigation as to *why* they did it, in the hope that this would result in a reduced (or no significant) punishment.

You have then gone on to claim that if they enter negotiations with other clubs around compensation, that they are precluding the outcome of their appeal to the -10pt deduction. It doesn't. The judgement clearly states that Everton did gain a sporting advantage from their breach of the rules and that the impacted clubs have right to seek redress. The appeal has NOTHING to do with this process.

[claretonthecoast1882]

Perhaps how I have just interpreted it? But surely if your providing mitigating circumstances your effectively saying that you don’t believe you are guilty and it was out of there control?

Everton have already said they are guilty they just don't think they should have 10 points deducted.

They mitigating circumstances have already been used to allow them to lose more than they should have been allowed, and they are still over. This isn't a case of found guilty and they are appealing the verdict as they claim to be innocent they just think it is harsh which is ********.

[Newcastleclaret93]

Everton have already said they are guilty they just don't think they should have 10 points deducted.

They mitigating circumstances have already been used to allow them to lose more than they should have been allowed, and they are still over. This isn't a case of found guilty and they are appealing the verdict as they claim to be innocent they just think it is harsh which is ********.

Fair enough, I have misinterpreted then.

[jrgbfc]

A brilliant 4-2 win for Girona away at Barcelona to go back to the top of La Liga.

Would be great if Girona and Leverkusen could win the leagues in Spain and Germany this year, or at least make it interesting. If Kane can't win the league with Bayern he might start to think he's cursed

[ClaretTony]

Some bizarre refereeing decisions this weekend, same as every weekend I suppose, how is that not a red for Brown in the two footed jump against Foden?

Also if people haven't seen, take a look at Onyeka's challenge at Sheff Utd yesterday and only got a yellow.

I’ve just been browsing this thread from yesterday and saw this post. Add to that now the Romero challenge at Spurs which may have been mentioned further down the thread.

But easy explanation as to why the Brown challenge wasn’t upgraded to a red - the VAR official was Jarred Gillett.

[ClaretPete001]

Well not exactly, they believe they haven’t done anything wrong due to the mitigating circumstances they have listed.

1. The war in Ukraine cost them many millions (some sources saying 200m).
2. New stadium costs soaring with cost of living
3. Covid dramatically decreased club power of selling.

They have argued that all of the above are reasons they shouldn’t be punished. There argument is they could have gone into administration and not received such a harsh point deduction.

All these are reasonable points. They accept they broke the rules but there are mitigating circumstances such that their guilt could not be reasonably be regarded as intentional or as a consequence of oversight.

There argument is that they got caught out in an unprecedented storm while building a new stadium.

And yes, there is a perverse outcome that their guilt based upon a relatively small sum (£20 million) in one season does not warrant a punishment worse than going into administration.

I think most in football think it was harsh. A view not shared on here obviously.

[Silkyskills1]

Sean has earned his money which is more than can be said for Poch .How shite are Chelsea? spend millions and still can't build a decent team

They rolled us over with consumate ease. Didn't have to break sweat.