Everton fans in home end

[Spike]

Don't clubs have the legal right to eject fans if they are in the wrong part of the ground without having to give any reason?

Public safety a good reason?

[FeedTheArf]

Hate to say I told you so, but this has been coming for months. I’ve emailed the club on numerous occasions about the away fans being sold tickets for the JML hospitality and this was an accident waiting to happen.

A guy got punched that hard yesterday in the JHU that we could hear it in the JML. I’m not sure whether he was Burnley or Everton but hope he’s ok regardless.

I’d like to say that this would encourage them to sort the issue out, but I have zero faith that we have the people in place that have the interest or ability to sort this out.

[taio]

So is the regulation that you cannot enter the ground with any device capable of recording any part of the match.....I don't think they enforce that either

They can enforce away fans being in the home end

[Nori1958]

They can enforce away fans being in the home end

Obviously not

[taio]

Obviously not

They can by removing them. Obviously

[AlargeClaret]

Appears on Twitter that pretty much anyone could get a ticket in the home end with over 500 tickets being released close to the game ? All the comments (which don’t appear to be dickheads) are on the thread where the vid on here was posted .

[Andreshotboots]

I agree, however rugby is a myth. There's always trouble at rugby matches inside and outside the ground. It's not as friendly as people think

Totally agree. My dad, who's in his 70s by the way went up to Edinburgh for the six nations game, and said him and his friends have never been abused as much by Scottish fans.

He said it was far worse than anything he'd experienced at a football game, that's some claim considering the era he grew up in..

[AGENT_CLARET]

Also the police made an absolute mess of dragging the fan out of the cricket field, must of been 10 trying to take him out

I was sat next to him and I've never seen him before in my life, he was ****** and a huge unit, It took about ten of them because of his size

[Andreshotboots]

I’m sure if I took an unauthorised flag in the ground, I’d soon find plenty of stewards around me.

To be serious, I know of 3 families who won’t be going again. There will be plenty more.

Yep, there were plenty of stewards and Police about when they were doing their" sit down so the corporate guests can see campaign".

The club are sadly getting lots wrong both on and off the pitch at the moment...

[Leisure]

Appears on Twitter that pretty much anyone could get a ticket in the home end with over 500 tickets being released close to the game ? All the comments (which don’t appear to be dickheads) are on the thread where the vid on here was posted .

There weren't 500 tickets released close to the game. That was spread by an Everton fan saying that they'd been given an additional 550 tickets late last week, which obviously they hadn't.

[Leisure]

I was sat next to him and I've never seen him before in my life, he was ****** and a huge unit, It took about ten of them because of his size

So was he an Everton fan in our section? If so, he must have been given a ST card by a Burnley fan!

[Jamesy]

So was he an Everton fan in our section? If so, he must have been given a ST card by a Burnley fan!

If said Burnley fan is in the seat for the Liverpool match then one of you can ask him if he gave season card to the drunk obnoxious scouser?
Or there is a fair chance there may be another drunk obnoxious scouser in the seat for this match? This time of a red persuasion.

[AGENT_CLARET]

So was he an Everton fan in our section? If so, he must have been given a ST card by a Burnley fan!

No he was singing Burnley song's and giving Everton loads of crap during the game, I've never seen him before home or away he looked like he was part Greek or something like that but he was hammered and a big lad, he jumped the wall divider and three stewards grabbed him but when he run at the Everton fans he dragged all three along with him, that's when all the police jumped in but it took at least ten of them to stop him reaching the Everton fan's and to dragg him off

[Jamesy]

No he was singing Burnley song's and giving Everton loads of crap during the game, I've never seen him before home or away he looked like he was part Greek or something like that but he was hammered and a big lad, he jumped the wall divider and three stewards grabbed him but when he run at the Everton fans he dragged all three along with him, that's when all the police jumped in but it took at least ten of them to stop him reaching the Everton fan's and to dragg him off

Should have got him a kebab, it might have quietened him down?

[ClaretsPadiham]

https://twitter.com/Benjwinst/status/17 ... 34200?s=20

Video of them celebrating in the JHU

[chekhov]

Not that daft as I ( and no doubt others) will know people who's day was about Sean Dyche, how good he us, how they wish we had him back etc.
And won't have talked about much other than him.

They constantly comment on Everton results, goals and how good he's doing.
Obviously that's to my teams detriment, I wish he'd lost all 38 games this season as that is beneficial to my team.
Others don't, that's a fact.

Fair enough. Personally I’m glad Dyche is doing well, at the same time I’m happy that no matter how hard I wish for an Everton victory it has absolutely zero impact on the outcome.

[Aclaret]

A guy got punched that hard yesterday in the JHU that we could hear it in the JML. I’m not sure whether he was Burnley or Everton but hope he’s ok regardless.

Yes we saw and heard it too from the JML, quite a few punches thrown and one lad was sent sprawling down a few rows....quite steep up there from what I remember.

[Chris]

In the JHU block 9 there is a new sign saying “Jimmy Mcilroy suite seating” meaning this will continue to happen for every game going forward.
I saw the Everton fans being escorted up to the seats by a club employee, they weren’t tickets bought at the ticket office or in the ticket exchange, they were corporate guests who obviously hadn’t been vetted by the club.
Kids and families were leaving, the lad and dad next me went to try and find seats away from the fighting, they returned later but the lad was upset so they ended leaving.
Russell Ball turned up, got an earful from a selection of fans, he’ll be preparing his statement for tomorrow.

[AlargeClaret]

There weren't 500 tickets released close to the game. That was spread by an Everton fan saying that they'd been given an additional 550 tickets late last week, which obviously they hadn't.

Maybe they were referring to our own unsold tickets and /or ticket exchange ? Whichever , they certainly managed to get plenty . Not the first time from Everton either . Often a few London club fans dotted about but rarely seen a group as such .

[Bordeauxclaret]

There weren't 500 tickets released close to the game. That was spread by an Everton fan saying that they'd been given an additional 550 tickets late last week, which obviously they hadn't.

Seems to be a bizarre thing that Twitter user says for every game.
Presume it’s some sort of absolutely hilarious joke that’s everyone else doesn’t get.

[IanMcL]

I have ended up in the wrong end from time to time and have never had any trouble. The best bunch were the Millwall supporters in Cold Blow Lane!

[IanMcL]

Also, not long ago, CT wrote about the Foodbank and fans donations/collections. Liverpool had got it sorted and Liverpool/Everton brought a lorry load of food and subsequently made a collection of thousands of pounds.

I would suggest the benefit of the doubt should be given and that the policing/stewarding and in particular the seat selling, should be questioned first.

[Goliath]

In the JHU block 9 there is a new sign saying “Jimmy Mcilroy suite seating” meaning this will continue to happen for every game going forward.
I saw the Everton fans being escorted up to the seats by a club employee, they weren’t tickets bought at the ticket office or in the ticket exchange, they were corporate guests who obviously hadn’t been vetted by the club.
Kids and families were leaving, the lad and dad next me went to try and find seats away from the fighting, they returned later but the lad was upset so they ended leaving.
Russell Ball turned up, got an earful from a selection of fans, he’ll be preparing his statement for tomorrow.

Christ, so they were put there by the club?? That is absolute madness.

[Chris]

Christ, so they were put there by the club?? That is absolute madness.

Yes! Corporate guests in Jimmy Mac suite with match seats in the JHU.

[Goliath]

We really do need some football people at the club urgently

[CrosspoolClarets]

The bit I don’t get is that if they were corporate guests from that new sports bar some will get the padded seats in the JML and some will get the normal seats in the JHU. That’s in the T&Cs.

Logic suggests fans will be kept in “booked groups” but otherwise they will be a mixture. The club won’t know who supports whom.

That means a pair of Clarets paying top dollar for the sports bar as a one off treat could be stuck in between 10 gloating Evertonians despite being in the Clarets home stand.

Instinct - this feels like amateur hour. Total lack of contingency planning (i.e. “what if” this happens) which is how to run any business. If you don’t know how to run a football club you employ someone who knows how to run a football club (e.g. Baldwin or, despite the stick he gets, Hoos) and you delegate a lot of decisions to that person. I sense that hasn't happened and is the key weakness in the “fan experience” despite good intentions.

[Boss Hogg]

Tickets are available at most grounds ( in the home ends) at inflated prices through online retailers.

There have been a number of other teams fans being thrown out of the JH this season. It takes an age because the stewards are incapable of throwing them out. They always have to wait to get a superior and sometimes a superior’s superior ( who’s normally a big lad) to get them out. The ones on the pitch couldn’t stop a pitch invasion. I reckon I could get past 10 of them on my own if I was so inclined. Not good enough if kids are scared in the home ends.

[NewClaret]

We really do need some football people at the club urgently

There Matt Williams and a very experienced stadium manager who should be controlling these things.

[NewClaret]

Club need a full investigation and statement on what happened, how it happened and what’s being done to sort it.

They’re all too quick to harp on about the safety regulations, time to step up and tell us how and why they put Burnley fans safety at risk for this game.

[StayingDown4Ever]

Club need a full investigation and statement on what happened, how it happened and what’s being done to sort it.

They’re all too quick to harp on about the safety regulations, time to step up and tell us how and why they put Burnley fans safety at risk for this game.

Have the club made any comment at all about the stadium trouble?

[FeedTheArf]

In the JHU block 9 there is a new sign saying “Jimmy Mcilroy suite seating” meaning this will continue to happen for every game going forward.
I saw the Everton fans being escorted up to the seats by a club employee, they weren’t tickets bought at the ticket office or in the ticket exchange, they were corporate guests who obviously hadn’t been vetted by the club.
Kids and families were leaving, the lad and dad next me went to try and find seats away from the fighting, they returned later but the lad was upset so they ended leaving.
Russell Ball turned up, got an earful from a selection of fans, he’ll be preparing his statement for tomorrow.

Wow. Absolutely shocking that the club knew beforehand. I’m glad Ball got an earful from fans, the bloke appears absolutely clueless but to be fair, given his only experience is being an estate agent, it’s not entirely surprising!

Premier league on the pitch (for now), schoolboy stuff off it.

[FeedTheArf]

Club need a full investigation and statement on what happened, how it happened and what’s being done to sort it.

They’re all too quick to harp on about the safety regulations, time to step up and tell us how and why they put Burnley fans safety at risk for this game.

My guess is, they won’t do anything because they’ll have seen the hospitality pound signs and planned the exact same thing for the Liverpool game.

[NewClaret]

My guess is, they won’t do anything because they’ll have seen the hospitality pound signs and planned the exact same thing for the Liverpool game.

The trouble wasn’t in hospitality though. Apparently Peter Reid was being a knob in hospitality but the trouble was in the stands.

I think you might be right though because it’s potentially too late to fix all the tickets they’ve sold to away fans.

Tell you what though if they don’t fix it and the season carries on as it is, the club won’t know what’s hit them. Fans won’t put up with that **** when they’ve paid good money for season tickets.

[NewClaret]

Have the club made any comment at all about the stadium trouble?

Not to my knowledge. I hope there’s a swift one tomorrow morning.

If I were Alan Pace I’d have issued an immediate apology and intention to investigate.

[CoolClaret]

As I’ve said, I don’t see how selling tickets early detriments that at all, and actually think it’s more likely to mean clarets buy them for reasons stated.

https://burnleyfchospitality.seatunique ... S42MC4wLjA.

What did I tell you?

Christ can this ******* board do anything sensible this year? Embarassing

[Ightenhill_Claret]

Not to my knowledge. I hope there’s a swift one tomorrow morning.

If I were Alan Pace I’d have issued an immediate apology and intention to investigate.

That's what most clubs would have done - it's not rocket science. You policy caused an issue, say sorry and investigate (even if nothing ultimately changes). Page 1 of the handbook on avoiding reputational damage.

[wilks_bfc]

Club response

[NewClaret]

Club response

Fair play. Nice early response. Now whatever CoolClaret found needs stopping immediately.

[NewClaret]

https://burnleyfchospitality.seatunique ... S42MC4wLjA.

What did I tell you?

Christ can this ******* board do anything sensible this year? Embarassing

That’s could’ve been the issue which is why it’s in block 9 I guess. Although the folk I saw in the video didn’t looked dressed for hospitality to me.

Club are looking in to it and I’ll give them the benefit of the doubt until we hear what they’re doing about it.

[ClaretTony]

That’s could’ve been the issue which is why it’s in block 9 I guess. Although the folk I saw in the video didn’t looked dressed for hospitality to me.

Club are looking in to it and I’ll give them the benefit of the doubt until we hear what they’re doing about it.

I'm not sure you have to dress for hospitality now in the way it used to be but there are hospitality people in there most games I'm told and there have been lesser issues previously.

[aggi]

https://burnleyfchospitality.seatunique ... S42MC4wLjA.

What did I tell you?

Christ can this ******* board do anything sensible this year? Embarassing

It's not like this is unusual.

https://www.seatunique.com/sport-tickets/football

Arsenal, VIlla, Brentford, Palace, Everton, Fulham, Leeds, Liverpool, Man City, plus many others do the same.

[CoolClaret]

It's not like this is unusual.

https://www.seatunique.com/sport-tickets/football

Arsenal, VIlla, Brentford, Palace, Everton, Fulham, Leeds, Liverpool, Man City, plus many others do the same.

But then place them into the home end?

Somehow doubt it

[fidelcastro]

Read the response again and you'll notice they've missed the name of the visiting team out.

Amateurs.

[aggi]

But then place them into the home end?

Somehow doubt it

Virtually all of them say that you'd be in a home area.

[Nori1958]

Read the response again and you'll notice they've missed the name of the visiting team out.

Amateurs.

Which response?

[claretonthecoast1882]

But then place them into the home end?

Somehow doubt it

That is exactly what they do

[CoolClaret]

Virtually all of them say that you'd be in a home area.

As in, an option to go directly into the home section on the terraces?

Doubt it - massively doubt it.

This is also just one instance and one stemming from an actual sponsor/affiliated partner of the club.

Multiple other third parties giving tickets away for various games as well; Sorare and other firms of that nature

[CoolClaret]

That is exactly what they do

Usually you get partially fenced/gated off, not directly sat in the concourse

And even if they do it, it’s still stupid - even more stupid when the sales are going through a third party

[fidelcastro]

Which response?

The Club response attached by wilks_bfc.

They still haven't employed that proofreader.

[FeedTheArf]

Club response

Should be a short investigation given that seemingly our own club knowingly put them there.