Awful

[Westleigh]

And what's the "long term project"?

Said this before “Project “ is just a term used so you can turn round after every loss with the same old crap ‘Oh we’re just in the throws of a 5 yr project “ saved you getting sacked

[Vincent'sCap]

In all my years of supporting the Clarets,I have never left a game before the end or missed watching a game on TV if I wasn't able to get to the Turf,today I switched that game off at 60 mins I honestly could not watch anymore,can't believe after last seasons highs this season has bombed so badly.

[Steve-Harpers-perm]

In all my years of supporting the Clarets,I have never left a game before the end or missed watching a game on TV if I wasn't able to get to the Turf,today I switched that game off at 60 mins I honestly could not watch anymore,can't believe after last seasons highs this season has bombed so badly.

This is the amazing thing the ridiculous highs of last season are nowhere to be seen!

[KRBFC]

When you have Brownhill marking Onana on corners then yeah I think it comes down to coaching

That’s a stupid argument though, how many 6ft players did they have? 7 or 8? How many do we have 3? Do the math, out matched.

[dougcollins]

That’s a stupid argument though, how many 6ft players did they have? 7 or 8? How many do we have 3? Do the math, out matched.

Though Onana was the tallest guy on the pitch.

[yTib]

math?

[dougcollins]

Yeth thir?

[KRBFC]

Though Onana was the tallest guy on the pitch.

Match them up…

Keane - Beyer
Tarkowski - Berge
Doucoure - Delcroix
Godfrey - Dara
Calvert Lewin - Rodriguez
Onana - ?

Which ever way you look at it, Brownhill had to mark someone taller stronger and better in the air.

[yTib]

sigh thoughth ith wath maths/

[Clive 1960]

As fan's we have just got to accept we are just not good enough with this squad of players at this level and then comes the championship and it won't be easy, i personally feel the business model the club want as come to early because we are head of ourselves, we are just going to lick our wounds and hope we can bounce back up again..

[xxmunkyennuixx]

Match them up…

Keane - Beyer
Tarkowski - Berge
Doucoure - Delcroix
Godfrey - Dara
Calvert Lewin - Rodriguez
Onana - ?

Which ever way you look at it, Brownhill had to mark someone taller stronger and better in the air.

If we marked man to man, Browny would take Godfrey. Onana is useful so give him someone more physical.

[ClaretPete001]

That’s a stupid argument though, how many 6ft players did they have? 7 or 8? How many do we have 3? Do the math, out matched.

You forgot the Emojis KRBFC. Good football teams aren't measured by their height.

Barcelona's Champions league winning side of 2010/11 had Iniesta, Xavi , Pedro, Messi, David Villa, Alves and Mascherano - arguably the best club side in the history of the game.

The type of goals are irrelevant Everton dominated the first half because they overran our midfield 4.

It was obviously going to happen. And the bench has some very decent players on it who would have been much better suited to a game like this.....! So, I'm not pointing the finger at anyone but sometimes a bit of nous is more useful than Math...!

[Alan Young]

Don’t really want understand how we try to defend set pieces. Cullen marking Tarky last time out. Vitinho this time. However it’s irrelevant if we’ve got a goalie unable to cope with being swamped and a defensive unit unable to protect him.

Totally predictable what happened today. We’re capable of matching a lot of teams on the ball but it’s like we didn’t realise last summer that PL sides would still provide a physical threat.

The failure to sign a ball winning CB and a commanding GK has cost us any chance of survival.

[kenyon6923]

Least 2 of the subs got 7 minutes tonight instead of the 4 at Wolverhampton - perhaps lesson's are being learnt

[mybloodisclaret]

Outcoached by Dyche.

Completely out of his depth at this level, there's nothing to enjoy. Asking this team to stay in the Premier League is like asking children to swim the Atlantic wearing armbands.

This is the worst season in the history of Burnley Football Club.

You are a new fan right? Joined around 2016?

[KRBFC]

You forgot the Emojis KRBFC. Good football teams aren't measured by their height.

Barcelona's Champions league winning side of 2010/11 had Iniesta, Xavi , Pedro, Messi, David Villa, Alves and Mascherano - arguably the best club side in the history of the game.

The type of goals are irrelevant Everton dominated the first half because they overran our midfield 4.

It was obviously going to happen. And the bench has some very decent players on it who would have been much better suited to a game like this.....! So, I'm not pointing the finger at anyone but sometimes a bit of nous is more useful than Math...!

I don’t know what any of your post has to do with my response to Brownhill marking Onana for the corner.

[Hapag Lloyd]

This is the worst season in the history of Burnley Football Club.

Believe it or not, it really isn’t.

[ClaretPete001]

I don’t know what any of your post has to do with my response to Brownhill marking Onana for the corner.

You said 'That’s a stupid argument though, how many 6ft players did they have? 7 or 8? How many do we have 3? Do the math, out matched.'

So, I pointed out that arguably best club side in the world only had 3 or 4 players who were 6ft.

If you can't see the relevance I'm sure everyone else can so I suppose it works for them if not for you.

[superdimitri]

So if we beat the teams around we’ll stay up ,that’s Luton,Sheff Utd,Notts Forest ,Bournemouth ,so we can get 3 more off Luton ,Sheff Utd ,Notts For,and Bournemouth that’ll give us another 12 points ,a grand total of 20 points ,please explain how we stop up with 20 points?

They'll be more teams close to us than that. Everton are much better than these. Results against worse teams are where we can gain points. Starting with Fullham.

[KRBFC]

You said 'That’s a stupid argument though, how many 6ft players did they have? 7 or 8? How many do we have 3? Do the math, out matched.'

So, I pointed out that arguably best club side in the world only had 3 or 4 players who were 6ft.

If you can't see the relevance I'm sure everyone else can so I suppose it works for them if not for you.

I was replying to the point about Brownhill marking Onana at the corner. Basically they have more 6ft+ players than us so Brownhill would’ve had to mark someone taller regardless of how we match up marking wise at corners.

[fidelcastro]

They'll be more teams close to us than that. Everton are much better than these. Results against worse teams are where we can gain points. Starting with Fullham.

I'm guessing maths isn't your strong point?

[JohnMcGreal]

And what's the "long term project"?

Nobody knows for sure, but it looks like Phase One is to get relegated so that the players we signed in the summer look a bit better.

[expoultryboy]

I just feel so deflated after the highs of last season and the poor displays and recruitment of this one . There seems to be no fight or pride in this present squad and to be honest i really can't see us getting out of this predicament .

[Goobs]

They'll be more teams close to us than that. Everton are much better than these. Results against worse teams are where we can gain points. Starting with Fullham.

Yes but unfortunately we won't. On a few occasions now we have faced teams that are either out of form or forced into several changes and on each occasion we have failed to deliver anything other than a disappointing and inept performance. the sooner we all accept we are way out of our depth and destined for relegation the easier it will be.

[taio]

Why is he our ‘best chance’?

No one is bigger than the club.

[turbo5]

On paper before the start of the season, like many other I was buzzing expecting mid table or more with all the potential talent . I think we have got greedy thinking we can turn young kids we bought for £2-15million and turn them into £40-£50M players. I think we have gone too far on the financial potential front. We have bet the silver ware and now things are starting to look grim. Won't recoup the transfer budget and left with a team with mixed ability not capable of surving in this league especially with this team.

[turbo5]

On paper before the start of the season, like many others I was buzzing expecting mid table or higher with all the potential talent . I think we have got greedy thinking we can turn young kids we bought for £2-15million and turn them into £40-£50M players. I think we have gone too far on the financial potential front. We have bet the silver ware and now things are starting to look grim. Won't recoup the transfer budget and left with a team with mixed ability not capable of surving in this league especially with this team.

[superdimitri]

I'm guessing maths isn't your strong point?

Oh it is, and we can still get enough points to survive. Be sure to let me know when it's mathematically impossible though so you can revel in glory.

[Vegas Claret]

So why did you ask me if I wanted Dyche sacked then?

I was asking you a question, you've gone off on one for some reason

[TPClaret]

You are a new fan right? Joined around 2016?

I think everyone is forgetting how Dyches first season as a premier league manager ended!

[CoolClaret]

That’s a stupid argument though, how many 6ft players did they have? 7 or 8? How many do we have 3? Do the math, out matched.

Who picked the side?

Vitinho was marking Tarkowski

At least have your biggest/best headers of the ball man mark their best/most physical?

Onana, DCL & Tarky biggest threats.

Vitinho and Brownhill marking two of them respectively - good one Vincent.

[mkmel]

Brownhill was marking the powerful Onana when he scored their first goal.

That worked well didn't it

[Pearcey]

I think everyone is forgetting how Dyches first season as a premier league manager ended!

With 33 points. I can see this team achieving that.

[Dyched]

Nobody knows for sure, but it looks like Phase One is to get relegated so that the players we signed in the summer look a bit better.

I’d have to agree. Sick of reading “potential”. What is that?!? Many many players at far bugger clubs in the PL have had this “potential” down the years that go on to have mediocre careers down the league's. I don’t see “potential” with any of them. A few minutes here and there isn’t “potential”. You can grab any player from Leagues 1 and 2 that would be great for 2 minutes every 2 weeks.

[Cooclaret]

Don’t really want understand how we try to defend set pieces. Cullen marking Tarky last time out. Vitinho this time. However it’s irrelevant if we’ve got a goalie unable to cope with being swamped and a defensive unit unable to protect him.

Totally predictable what happened today. We’re capable of matching a lot of teams on the ball but it’s like we didn’t realise last summer that PL sides would still provide a physical threat.

The failure to sign a ball winning CB and a commanding GK has cost us any chance of survival.

Trafford is an amazing GK, he just doesn’t have a defence, or CM of the required PL standard.

[Pearcey]

With 33 points. I can see this team achieving that.

That should read ‘can’t’

[JohnDearyMe]

Outcoached by Dyche.

Completely out of his depth at this level, there's nothing to enjoy. Asking this team to stay in the Premier League is like asking children to swim the Atlantic wearing armbands.

This is the worst season in the history of Burnley Football Club.

We may have had worst seasons footballing wise but we are well on track for our worst ever season points wise

[roperclaret]

Trafford is an amazing GK, he just doesn’t have a defence, or CM of the required PL standard.

Shot stopper. Poor in the air, not great with his feet. Too quiet, doesn’t direct his defenders. Very good at reaction saves.

[getbennyon]

Believe it or not, it really isn’t.

8 points at Christmas.

[spt_claret]

Trafford is an amazing GK, he just doesn’t have a defence, or CM of the required PL standard.

He's not even close to an amazing goalkeeper. He's very young, a good shot stopper (very good for his age). He has a tremendous knack at making the simple stuff look hard- some saves you'd expect a keeper at this level to make have people raving.
His positioning is poor, he readjusts side to side and forwards and backwards a lot. Been caught out from range a lot and in no mans land for crosses or set pieces.
His reading of the game is still developing which is to be expected. Tipped one over for a corner yesterday that he should have left, done that a couple times before but generally with ones you can't take the chance at the time.
He can't command his area at all especially from set pieces, gets bullied, lacks either the strength or bravery to ram through a press.
His handling is suspect.
As good as his shot stopper reflexes are he has weak hands tending to parry back into trouble.
His distribution is not good enough for our style. Long range kicking isn't great but has few outlets. Short Range he's poor and is massively overused because of our system, he gets nervous and so do his defence.

He will be a top shot stopper and will probably develop at reading the game and commanding his area sufficiently to be a very very good PL keeper and England international. Right now I still don't think he's better than Muric at anything except shot stopping and even that I'm not sure.

[JBR]

He's not even close to an amazing goalkeeper. He's very young, a good shot stopper (very good for his age). He has a tremendous knack at making the simple stuff look hard- some saves you'd expect a keeper at this level to make have people raving.
His positioning is poor, he readjusts side to side and forwards and backwards a lot. Been caught out from range a lot and in no mans land for crosses or set pieces.
His reading of the game is still developing which is to be expected. Tipped one over for a corner yesterday that he should have left, done that a couple times before but generally with ones you can't take the chance at the time.
He can't command his area at all especially from set pieces, gets bullied, lacks either the strength or bravery to ram through a press.
His handling is suspect.
As good as his shot stopper reflexes are he has weak hands tending to parry back into trouble.
His distribution is not good enough for our style. Long range kicking isn't great but has few outlets. Short Range he's poor and is massively overused because of our system, he gets nervous and so do his defence.

He will be a top shot stopper and will probably develop at reading the game and commanding his area sufficiently to be a very very good PL keeper and England international. Right now I still don't think he's better than Muric at anything except shot stopping and even that I'm not sure.

I noticed in the warm up he had the thinnest skinniest legs I’ve ever seen on a goalkeeper. Needs to bulk up down the gym. Looks like he hasn’t had any strength and conditioning. Would help him dealing with the corners he gets constantly bullied on at the moment.

[CoolClaret]

He will be a top shot stopper and will probably develop at reading the game and commanding his area sufficiently to be a very very good PL keeper and England international. Right now I still don't think he's better than Muric at anything except shot stopping and even that I'm not sure.

I don’t see it myself unless something drastically changes.

He’s played a hell of a lot of football as well for his age.

People make out like he’s Donnarumma coming through or something. Not for me. Total unnecessary signing.

[JBR]

Seems he has to play every game no matter what. Is it written into his contract?. Its like a loan player that just has to play every game to get the deal done, very strange.

[Newcastleclaret93]

No manager saves this lot, you act like VK can just clap his hands and Dara O’Shea turns into Sergio Ramos. Or he claps his hands we suddenly become better defensively.

The truth and reality is, a lot of these players simply are not good enough for this level and most never ever will be.

You can cry all you want about Muric or Trafford but the truth is neither are good enough at commanding their box.

You can use players not starting to hammer VK, pretend Larsen is some brilliant player who’s hard done by to not start. That is until he starts and you’re faced with reality, he’s bang average and not good enough.

That Luton manager must be the best of all time.

He’s getting ten times more out of considerably worse group of players

A decent manager keeps this squad up

[JBR]

That Luton manager must be the best of all time.

He’s getting ten times more out of considerably worse group of players

A decent manager keeps this squad up

People have been seduced by his bullshit pressers, can’t believe he hasn’t been found out yet.

We are on for an embarrassing end to the season with him in charge.

[Newcastleclaret93]

I think everyone is forgetting how Dyches first season as a premier league manager ended!

The stupidest post of the day goes to ……


People aren’t seriously comparing that Dyche first season to this

[Newcastleclaret93]

People have been seduced by his bullshit pressers, can’t believe he hasn’t been found out yet.

We are on for an embarrassing end to the season with him in charge.

Yep said it for a few weeks now, if his name wasn’t Vincent Kompany no one would want him.

Poor manager, miles out of his depth

[KRBFC]

That Luton manager must be the best of all time.

He’s getting ten times more out of considerably worse group of players

A decent manager keeps this squad up

VK hasn’t lost to Luton in 3 games, winning 2.

They play 5 at the back, have fans who get behind the team, excellent on set pieces. They will always grind out a few results but let’s not act like they’re better than us, they’re sh**e too.