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Pot holes

Post by CaptJohn » Thu Dec 21, 2023 12:58 pm

Anyone else concerned that an invasion by the Russians might be on the cards, because some of the potholes on the roads are more akin to tank traps designed to stop a T-34 or whatever the latest Russian tank is?

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Re: Pot holes

Post by steve1264b » Thu Dec 21, 2023 1:10 pm

Its ok london getting theirs repaired

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Re: Pot holes

Post by Goodclaret » Thu Dec 21, 2023 1:12 pm

steve1264b wrote:
Thu Dec 21, 2023 1:10 pm
Its ok london getting theirs repaired
And even better news is that they are using the Northern cancelled HS2 monies to fund it #levellingdown

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Re: Pot holes

Post by dsr » Thu Dec 21, 2023 1:20 pm

Instead of spending millions on the "Town to Turf" stuff and (in Colne) widening the not-too-busy dual carriageway from two lanes to three at a new traffic light, why didn't they spend the cash on getting existing roads up to standard?
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Re: Pot holes

Post by Clovius Boofus » Thu Dec 21, 2023 1:24 pm

steve1264b wrote:
Thu Dec 21, 2023 1:10 pm
Its ok london getting theirs repaired
At least this got some coverage on the main news last night, not to mention every regional news channel north of Solihull.

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Re: Pot holes

Post by Claretnick » Thu Dec 21, 2023 1:41 pm

dsr wrote:
Thu Dec 21, 2023 1:20 pm
Instead of spending millions on the "Town to Turf" stuff and (in Colne) widening the not-too-busy dual carriageway from two lanes to three at a new traffic light, why didn't they spend the cash on getting existing roads up to standard?
Is the work in Colne not being paid for by the business that is going to benefit from the right hand turn at the new lights?

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Re: Pot holes

Post by ClaretLoup » Thu Dec 21, 2023 2:23 pm

In addition to the money spent on roads HMG are giving the Cockneys another £250 million to upgrade the Piccadilly Line, I am not sure if this is in addition to or part of the £6.4 billion provided since 2020 to support transport in London as outlined in the article below

https://www.gov.uk/government/news/mini ... ort-system

Meanwhile up here on Tyneside the Metro system is literally falling apart with nearly every day gaps in service due to train failures, apparently we have some nice new trains coming in from Switzerland but we haven't seen them yet and tbf HMG are building stations in advance of the Ashington to Newcastle rail line re-opening supposedly in 2024, so you will literally be able to ride direct from Newcastle to pitsville, birth place of Jimmy Adamson. More underground tunnels in Ashington than the whole of the Gaza strip (probably!)

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Re: Pot holes

Post by HitchinClaret » Thu Dec 21, 2023 2:41 pm

I understand Greater London gets a lot of money for infrastructure repairs/upgrades, but in terms of £'s per person using the services its probably fair?

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Re: Pot holes

Post by Vegas Claret » Thu Dec 21, 2023 2:44 pm

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Re: Pot holes

Post by DCWat » Thu Dec 21, 2023 2:52 pm

HitchinClaret wrote:
Thu Dec 21, 2023 2:41 pm
I understand Greater London gets a lot of money for infrastructure repairs/upgrades, but in terms of £'s per person using the services its probably fair?
Probably a fair comment in some respects. However, how much would the £ per person rate come down up here, if we had even a half way comparable public transport network?

I’m certain that there are a hell of a lot of people in the north not using public transport because it’s:

Unreliable
Too costly
Too infrequent
No service in their area
Overcrowded

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Re: Pot holes

Post by Bosscat » Thu Dec 21, 2023 2:53 pm

DCWat wrote:
Thu Dec 21, 2023 2:52 pm
Probably a fair comment in some respects. However, how much would the £ per person rate come down up here, if we had even a half way comparable public transport network?

I’m certain that there are a hell of a lot of people in the north not using public transport because it’s:

Unreliable
Too costly
Too infrequent
No service in their area
Overcrowded
Spot on ...

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Re: Pot holes

Post by CaptJohn » Thu Dec 21, 2023 3:05 pm

I do try to use public transport here in Chester. I live close to the city centre so the services are not too bad and my bus pass comes in handy. However when using Merseyrail to Liverpool I'm expected to stump up the fare, unlike the Scousers on the Wirral and north of the Mersey who get free rail passes as well. My good friend who's a ST holder at Goodison travels to home matches FOC. Train from Spital to Moorfields, soccer bus to Goodison. Sorted. There undoubtedly is a big disparity between the haves and have nots on public transport but I do feel more should be spent on fixing them pesky tank traps.

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Re: Pot holes

Post by HitchinClaret » Thu Dec 21, 2023 3:46 pm

DCWat wrote:
Thu Dec 21, 2023 2:52 pm
Probably a fair comment in some respects. However, how much would the £ per person rate come down up here, if we had even a half way comparable public transport network?

I’m certain that there are a hell of a lot of people in the north not using public transport because it’s:

Unreliable
Too costly
Too infrequent
No service in their area
Overcrowded

Agreed, would need a leap of faith to invest in the hope that it turns things around. Even then, you would hope that they had the good sense and realise that it will take a decade at least to change peoples habits in terms of using public transport. It would be a generational change to get public transport used as frequently as it is in London, but it needs to happen.

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Re: Pot holes

Post by Nonayforever » Thu Dec 21, 2023 5:36 pm

DCWat wrote:
Thu Dec 21, 2023 2:52 pm
Probably a fair comment in some respects. However, how much would the £ per person rate come down up here, if we had even a half way comparable public transport network?

I’m certain that there are a hell of a lot of people in the north not using public transport because it’s:

Unreliable
Too costly
Too infrequent
No service in their area
Overcrowded
You missed the most pertinent point :-

Undesirable passengers.

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Re: Pot holes

Post by dsr » Thu Dec 21, 2023 11:38 pm

HitchinClaret wrote:
Thu Dec 21, 2023 3:46 pm
Agreed, would need a leap of faith to invest in the hope that it turns things around. Even then, you would hope that they had the good sense and realise that it will take a decade at least to change peoples habits in terms of using public transport. It would be a generational change to get public transport used as frequently as it is in London, but it needs to happen.
The reason people in London use public transport is not because they have a different attitude, it's because driving a car is so inconvenient. It's only the city centre that is really public-transport minded. Out in the suburbs they still use cars.

If we want people to use public transport more, then car driving needs to be made so vastly expensive that only the seriously rich can use it, or so very inconvenient that buses are better. Possibly making 90% of roads buses-only and banning street parking, for example.

Don't underestimate the convenience of having a car. Those who can afford it, will pay quite a lot for it.

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Re: Pot holes

Post by basil6345789 » Thu Dec 21, 2023 11:48 pm

Bring back school buses - millons of women in cars taking kids to and from schools everyday

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Re: Pot holes

Post by Foulthrow » Fri Dec 22, 2023 7:30 am

basil6345789 wrote:
Thu Dec 21, 2023 11:48 pm
Bring back school buses - millons of women in cars taking kids to and from schools everyday
Have you seen how expensive a school bus fare is? There’s probably not much difference cost wise if you drive your child to school. Add that to the fact that it will probably be on the school bus that bullying takes place given a lack of teacher presence.

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Re: Pot holes

Post by get stuck in tracy » Fri Dec 22, 2023 10:32 am

Talking of which, watch out for a big one that has opened up on the "going up " side of Greenhead lane.

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