Match thread - Fulham v Burnley

Stayingup · Post by **Stayingup** » Sat Dec 23, 2023 2:39 pm

You do wonder if Ekdhal is made of glass. Benson? Who knows?

CoolClaret · Post by **CoolClaret** » Sat Dec 23, 2023 2:40 pm

boatshed bill wrote: ↑
Sat Dec 23, 2023 2:31 pm
Team selection, VK can't win on here.
It's either predictable, or uninspiring, or if he makes changes he doesn't know his best 11.

It’s all the above Bill -

Either that or he’s getting the most out of them,

Pick your poison

Petersa · Post by **Petersa** » Sat Dec 23, 2023 2:43 pm

Neil wrote: ↑
Sat Dec 23, 2023 2:33 pm
Certainly not before kick off

Every week I still have hope before kick off, if not expectation.

I'm afraid this team gives me expectation and little hope...if Burnley win or play well today I will humbly apologise

ClaretPete001 · Post by **ClaretPete001** » Sat Dec 23, 2023 2:45 pm

Agree with others we will likely be overrun in midfield. They play a 4-2-3-1/4-5-1, so I think it's going to be a long haul for Brownhill and Berge particularly if Amdouni, Bruun Larsen and Odobert aren't disciplined.

On the upside we have a bit more pace up front but looking at their midfield it's going to be challenging for the midfield two to get a grip on the game.

Maybe if you had Gundogan and De Bruyne as your midfield two I would be a bit more optimistic.

There is lots of pace and energy up front so who knows it may work.

CnBtruntru · Post by **CnBtruntru** » Sat Dec 23, 2023 2:45 pm

HahaYeah wrote: ↑
Sat Dec 23, 2023 2:18 pm
Don't think I have ever seen such negativity and misery on a match thread.

Aye, makes me depressed reading this thread, so me thinks i'll go read a Reacher book

ClaretPete001 · Post by **ClaretPete001** » Sat Dec 23, 2023 2:46 pm

CnBtruntru wrote: ↑
Sat Dec 23, 2023 2:45 pm
Aye, makes me depressed reading this thread, so me thinks i'll go read a Reacher book

To be fair Reacher books are not a bundle of laughs either. The only difference is he generally wins at the end of it.

Guller Bull · Post by **Guller Bull** » Sat Dec 23, 2023 2:49 pm

Petersa wrote: ↑
Sat Dec 23, 2023 2:43 pm
I'm afraid this team gives me expectation and little hope...if Burnley win or play well today I will humbly apologise

No need to apologise either for being optimistic or pessimistic. Likelihood is that we are on our way down with a without a whimper but the football supporter in us wants to see our team go on a run that will take us to world domination. Hey it's what we live for.

spt_claret · Post by **spt_claret** » Sat Dec 23, 2023 2:49 pm

jojomk1 wrote: ↑
Sat Dec 23, 2023 2:36 pm
Spot on
Central midfield will struggle and Amdouni will roam off in areas achieving very little
I actually like Amdouni as a player but this central midfield is just not strong enough as a two
Would rather see Cullen as a third cm hoping the two wide men can support Foster

I've said it a few times this season but I think if we adopted more of the classic Klopp and less of the Guardiola we'd have a better chance of joy. Amdouni as a mobile false 9 ala Firminio or Coutinho, Foster and Brun Larsen as wide forwards overlapping him to be the primary goal threats like Salah & Mane, move either Cullen into CM in an anchor role ala Fabinho with Brownhill as the Henderson, Berge as the Wjinaldum, or Berge in the anchor role and Gudmundsson as the playmaker CM.
Puts our two fastest, most direct goal threats on the pitch in a system letting them serve as main goal threats, puts Amdouni in a role that should suit him (even if hes more a classic trequartista) and adds a body in the centre to prevent overrun. Plus forces us to be a bit more urgent with our passing rather than aimless meandering in our own half for 60 minutes a game.

Goliath · Post by **Goliath** » Sat Dec 23, 2023 2:52 pm

Murger wrote: ↑
Sat Dec 23, 2023 2:16 pm
Same old. How predictable.

Jesus christ. People were going mad about our
unsettled lineups until about a month ago

basil6345789 · Post by **basil6345789** » Sat Dec 23, 2023 2:57 pm

Ref's got a Jay Rod hairstyle

jojomk1 · Post by **jojomk1** » Sat Dec 23, 2023 2:59 pm

spt_claret wrote: ↑
Sat Dec 23, 2023 2:49 pm
I've said it a few times this season but I think if we adopted more of the classic Klopp and less of the Guardiola we'd have a better chance of joy. Amdouni as a mobile false 9 ala Firminio or Coutinho, Foster and Brun Larsen as wide forwards overlapping him to be the primary goal threats like Salah & Mane, move either Cullen into CM in an anchor role ala Fabinho with Brownhill as the Henderson, Berge as the Wjinaldum, or Berge in the anchor role and Gudmundsson as the playmaker CM.
Puts our two fastest, most direct goal threats on the pitch in a system letting them serve as main goal threats, puts Amdouni in a role that should suit him (even if hes more a classic trequartista) and adds a body in the centre to prevent overrun. Plus forces us to be a bit more urgent with our passing rather than aimless meandering in our own half for 60 minutes a game.

Amdouni as good as Firmino
Foster and Larsen like Salah and Mane
Cullen/Fabinho, Brownhill/Henderson, Berge/Wijnaldum

Why are we bottom of the league with such good players

Wo Didi · Post by **Wo Didi** » Sat Dec 23, 2023 3:02 pm

Come on you Clarets

BabylonClaret · Post by **BabylonClaret** » Sat Dec 23, 2023 3:02 pm

Good to see Foster starting. Would like to have seen Redmond or Tresor instead of Odobert or JBL though.

Not sure defence can change much - other than Ekdal .

I've given up o Muric starting

BabylonClaret · Post by **BabylonClaret** » Sat Dec 23, 2023 3:02 pm

Good to see Foster starting. Would like to have seen Redmond or Tresor instead of Odobert or JBL though.

Not sure defence can change much - other than Ekdal .

I've given up o Muric starting

CryerBFC · Post by **CryerBFC** » Sat Dec 23, 2023 3:02 pm

Messing about at the back already

CoolClaret · Post by **CoolClaret** » Sat Dec 23, 2023 3:04 pm

Nice ball by Traff into touch to start us off

burnleymik · Post by **burnleymik** » Sat Dec 23, 2023 3:05 pm

Trafford looks further out than he normally is. Bit more of the old Muric role.

Longsidebovril · Post by **Longsidebovril** » Sat Dec 23, 2023 3:05 pm

Come on you Clarets. I reckon we’ll get something today.

spt_claret · Post by **spt_claret** » Sat Dec 23, 2023 3:07 pm

jojomk1 wrote: ↑
Sat Dec 23, 2023 2:59 pm
Amdouni as good as Firmino
Foster and Larsen like Salah and Mane
Cullen/Fabinho, Brownhill/Henderson, Berge/Wijnaldum

Why are we bottom of the league with such good players

This is such deliberate misrepresentation, at what point did I say they were "as good"? Never.
I was referring to systems, player attributes, and similarities in style that might benefit us from adopting that system with our players in those roles.
Unbelievably disingenous of you.

IanMcL · Post by **IanMcL** » Sat Dec 23, 2023 3:08 pm

Corner again us.

burnleymik · Post by **burnleymik** » Sat Dec 23, 2023 3:08 pm

Started really well. Looking strong off the ball as well.

jedi_master · Post by **jedi_master** » Sat Dec 23, 2023 3:08 pm

Playing well!

jos · Post by **jos** » Sat Dec 23, 2023 3:08 pm

Foster makes such a positive difference

IanMcL · Post by **IanMcL** » Sat Dec 23, 2023 3:09 pm

101 with nothing to show.

burnleymik · Post by **burnleymik** » Sat Dec 23, 2023 3:09 pm

Wow. Commentator just said 1 goal in 100 corners for us... Ouch.

CoolClaret · Post by **CoolClaret** » Sat Dec 23, 2023 3:10 pm

Wish we’d counter with pace more once winning the ball in the middle

Vitinho and Berge started well

IanMcL · Post by **IanMcL** » Sat Dec 23, 2023 3:10 pm

Great attacking and then we pass it all the way back to Trafford. Waste of opportunity

ElectroClaret · Post by **ElectroClaret** » Sat Dec 23, 2023 3:10 pm

Doing ok, got to keep it going.

jedi_master · Post by **jedi_master** » Sat Dec 23, 2023 3:10 pm

jos wrote: ↑
Sat Dec 23, 2023 3:08 pm
Foster makes such a positive difference

Yes - no dig at Jay who tries his hardest, but the difference is huge in terms of a platform up top.

Buxtonclaret · Post by **Buxtonclaret** » Sat Dec 23, 2023 3:11 pm

Good move!
Corner.....we're due to do something...

IanMcL · Post by **IanMcL** » Sat Dec 23, 2023 3:12 pm

77% possession. No end product

Wo Didi · Post by **Wo Didi** » Sat Dec 23, 2023 3:12 pm

We've made a very positive start, Foster seems to make such a difference.

BurnleyFC · Post by **BurnleyFC** » Sat Dec 23, 2023 3:12 pm

Playing well.

Foster makes a huge difference.

Buxtonclaret · Post by **Buxtonclaret** » Sat Dec 23, 2023 3:13 pm

Wonder when the Law Of Averages is going to kick in on these corners!

IanMcL · Post by **IanMcL** » Sat Dec 23, 2023 3:14 pm

Corner them..

Cleared.

spt_claret · Post by **spt_claret** » Sat Dec 23, 2023 3:14 pm

jos wrote: ↑
Sat Dec 23, 2023 3:08 pm
Foster makes such a positive difference

He really does. And as I've been saying he would, Amdouni looks so much more likely to find space or link the ball in dangerous areas with someone actually mobile next to him. Larsen able to get in behind or in dangerzones more too.

IanMcL · Post by **IanMcL** » Sat Dec 23, 2023 3:14 pm

Save by Trafgord

burnleymik · Post by **burnleymik** » Sat Dec 23, 2023 3:14 pm

Trafford with two big saves.

IanMcL · Post by **IanMcL** » Sat Dec 23, 2023 3:14 pm

Iwobi beats 2 and shoots into side netting.

Kgun5 · Post by **Kgun5** » Sat Dec 23, 2023 3:15 pm

Three chances in succession for Fulham.

BurnleyFC · Post by **BurnleyFC** » Sat Dec 23, 2023 3:15 pm

3 quick chances for Fulham with two good saves by Trafford.

jedi_master · Post by **jedi_master** » Sat Dec 23, 2023 3:15 pm

Two good saves from Trafford in quick succession and then they hit the side netting too. All in about a minute of play. We’re far too open when we’re run at.

BurnleyFC · Post by **BurnleyFC** » Sat Dec 23, 2023 3:16 pm

Nothing wrong with that from Charlie Taylor.

Get up, you tart.

IanMcL · Post by **IanMcL** » Sat Dec 23, 2023 3:16 pm

We let platers do what they intend for some reason

burnleymik · Post by **burnleymik** » Sat Dec 23, 2023 3:17 pm

We really have to be careful at the back with that playing outm nearly got caught there again.

Carwin261 · Post by **Carwin261** » Sat Dec 23, 2023 3:18 pm

IanMcL wrote: ↑
Sat Dec 23, 2023 3:16 pm
We let platers do what they intend for some reason

.?

IanMcL · Post by **IanMcL** » Sat Dec 23, 2023 3:19 pm

Players

RVclaret · Post by **RVclaret** » Sat Dec 23, 2023 3:19 pm

Larsen needs to wake up. Well off it so far.

scouseclaret · Post by **scouseclaret** » Sat Dec 23, 2023 3:19 pm

Our tackling is so weak…

ElectroClaret · Post by **ElectroClaret** » Sat Dec 23, 2023 3:21 pm

burnleymik wrote: ↑
Sat Dec 23, 2023 3:17 pm
We really have to be careful at the back with that playing outm nearly got caught there again.

Yep.
Sometimes you just need to put your foot through it.