AV we got a thread v Burnley or is this it?

KRBFC · Post by **KRBFC** » Sat Dec 30, 2023 3:44 pm

Yet another goal from our left hand side

jedi_master · Post by **jedi_master** » Sat Dec 30, 2023 3:44 pm

Defence just will not stand up to the requirements of this league consistently. Huge shame.

boatshed bill · Post by **boatshed bill** » Sat Dec 30, 2023 3:44 pm

FFF VAR. Sick of it.

burnleymik · Post by **burnleymik** » Sat Dec 30, 2023 3:44 pm

Of course we don't get a VAR decision. Always.

taio · Post by **taio** » Sat Dec 30, 2023 3:44 pm

We are shocking at the back.

chekhov · Post by **chekhov** » Sat Dec 30, 2023 3:44 pm

burnleymik wrote: ↑
Sat Dec 30, 2023 3:40 pm
Looking very dangerous going forward

So do they.

Safron · Post by **Safron** » Sat Dec 30, 2023 3:44 pm

Poor by berge

JimmyRobbo · Post by **JimmyRobbo** » Sat Dec 30, 2023 3:44 pm

Vitinho playing him on.

Casper2 · Post by **Casper2** » Sat Dec 30, 2023 3:45 pm

Don’t deserve to be losing this

RVclaret · Post by **RVclaret** » Sat Dec 30, 2023 3:45 pm

Sums up Vitinho’s half. Woeful,

Somethingfishy · Post by **Somethingfishy** » Sat Dec 30, 2023 3:45 pm

Our back line all over the place there. Full backs in a different postcode to our centre backs

jojomk1 · Post by **jojomk1** » Sat Dec 30, 2023 3:45 pm

Looked like Vitinho playing everybody on
He is having a mare

jedi_master · Post by **jedi_master** » Sat Dec 30, 2023 3:45 pm

Taylor is easily playing him on, nowhere near offside.

Kilson810 · Post by **Kilson810** » Sat Dec 30, 2023 3:45 pm

School boy defending again. Hope we sign a few more wingers to sort it out.

Colburn_Claret · Post by **Colburn_Claret** » Sat Dec 30, 2023 3:45 pm

CT 2 yds behind the rest of the defence playing them onside.

We don't half like to make life hard for ourselves and easy for the opposition.

taio · Post by **taio** » Sat Dec 30, 2023 3:45 pm

It was Taylor playing him on

Somethingfishy · Post by **Somethingfishy** » Sat Dec 30, 2023 3:46 pm

RVclaret wrote: ↑
Sat Dec 30, 2023 3:45 pm
Sums up Vitinho’s half. Woeful,

Taylor equally as poor. We need new full backs...but we already knew that.

Casper2 · Post by **Casper2** » Sat Dec 30, 2023 3:46 pm

boatshed bill wrote: ↑
Sat Dec 30, 2023 3:44 pm
FFF VAR. Sick of it.

Both correct decisions, what you sick of ?

BurnleyFC · Post by **BurnleyFC** » Sat Dec 30, 2023 3:46 pm

That’s ******* crap from Berge for the goal there.

Guller Bull · Post by **Guller Bull** » Sat Dec 30, 2023 3:46 pm

Do we give up?
Do we say that's it?

Do we f***!

Come on!

ksrclaret · Post by **ksrclaret** » Sat Dec 30, 2023 3:46 pm

Defensive coaching is absolutely abysmal. Never, ever in line with each other. Simply not acceptable at this level

CrosspoolClarets · Post by **CrosspoolClarets** » Sat Dec 30, 2023 3:46 pm

Unfortunately Vitinho remains well out of his depth, done numerous times already and played Watkins onside just then (as did Taylor) which took both our centre backs out of the game. Need to strengthen there.

(I also doubt firm leadership at CB to call the offside trap btw)

Other than that we have done brilliantly against a really good team.

Westleigh · Post by **Westleigh** » Sat Dec 30, 2023 3:46 pm

Vitinhio makes too many mistakes.

Commy · Post by **Commy** » Sat Dec 30, 2023 3:46 pm

Just before half time again.

alboclaret · Post by **alboclaret** » Sat Dec 30, 2023 3:46 pm

We are so soft in defence its un real. Bege vitino , oshea rubbish when it's in and around them on floor

CoolClaret · Post by **CoolClaret** » Sat Dec 30, 2023 3:47 pm

Berge should’ve also been closer to Diaby following him into the box…

jedi_master · Post by **jedi_master** » Sat Dec 30, 2023 3:47 pm

Commy wrote: ↑
Sat Dec 30, 2023 3:46 pm
Just before half time again.

This is the biggest annoyance - how many H/T team talks has VK had to rip up and come up with a new plan due to this.

JimmyRobbo · Post by **JimmyRobbo** » Sat Dec 30, 2023 3:48 pm

7 mins of IT/VAR time!

dsr · Post by **dsr** » Sat Dec 30, 2023 3:48 pm

jedi_master wrote: ↑
Sat Dec 30, 2023 3:39 pm
Looks a toe offside, bugger

That's why they brought in VAR. They identified a problem that goals were being given when the man was an inch offside, and realised that by introducing 2+ minute delays, by making it necessary to let play go on because the decisions are impossible to do on the field, and by making it impossible to celebrate a goal because there is no proper way to tell, they can solve the problem.

The question is, how much of a problem was it? Do they find that games at lower levels are spoiled because players who appear to be level, might have been an inch offside?

Goliath · Post by **Goliath** » Sat Dec 30, 2023 3:48 pm

Delcorix looks like hes just woken up and found himself in the middle of a Premier league game.

Vitinho is equally bad. We may aswell just go for it in this game because theres no way of us getting a result sitting back with those 2 in the back 4

JLR81 · Post by **JLR81** » Sat Dec 30, 2023 3:48 pm

think that might be game over

gandhisflipflop · Post by **gandhisflipflop** » Sat Dec 30, 2023 3:49 pm

Delcroix and O’Shea at this level are a frightening partnership. That second goal was a complete calamity from Vitinho not pushing up, to O’Shea going to close down Watkins to delcroix being in no man’s land for the cross.

On a side note, how many goals do we concede from 40-45 mins?!

We have looked very good going forward but yet again it’s the basics letting us down.

Westleigh · Post by **Westleigh** » Sat Dec 30, 2023 3:49 pm

Foster looking fitter.

jojomk1 · Post by **jojomk1** » Sat Dec 30, 2023 3:49 pm

Somethingfishy wrote: ↑
Sat Dec 30, 2023 3:46 pm
Taylor equally as poor. We need new full backs...but we already knew that.

We have an alternative for right back

Just nobody for the left

Somethingfishy · Post by **Somethingfishy** » Sat Dec 30, 2023 3:49 pm

How many times have we played reasonbably well and been let down by our gaffe ridden defence letting us down? We shouldn't be losing this.

Shaun1983 · Post by **Shaun1983** » Sat Dec 30, 2023 3:49 pm

Berge also picked up a yellow, doesn’t that rule him out of Luton game?

taio · Post by **taio** » Sat Dec 30, 2023 3:50 pm

dsr wrote: ↑
Sat Dec 30, 2023 3:48 pm
That's why they brought in VAR. They identified a problem that goals were being given when the man was an inch offside, and realised that by introducing 2+ minute delays, by making it necessary to let play go on because the decisions are impossible to do on the field, and by making it impossible to celebrate a goal because there is no proper way to tell, they can solve the problem.

The question is, how much of a problem was it? Do they find that games at lower levels are spoiled because players who appear to be level, might have been an inch offside?

The linesman give offside.

Westleigh · Post by **Westleigh** » Sat Dec 30, 2023 3:51 pm

Berge out for next match.

boatshed bill · Post by **boatshed bill** » Sat Dec 30, 2023 3:51 pm

Casper2 wrote: ↑
Sat Dec 30, 2023 3:46 pm
Both correct decisions, what you sick of ?

VAR

jedi_master · Post by **jedi_master** » Sat Dec 30, 2023 3:51 pm

Ffs JBG - an easy pass then and Berge was in.

JimmyRobbo · Post by **JimmyRobbo** » Sat Dec 30, 2023 3:52 pm

Commy wrote: ↑
Sat Dec 30, 2023 3:46 pm
Just before half time again.

I thought the same. Just as I was thinking, "if we can get to HT level!"

Then again, with the amount of VAR/IT time added on, along with our deternination to concede goals, it's actually quite likely we concede just before HT so frequently!

Neil · Post by **Neil** » Sat Dec 30, 2023 3:52 pm

Looks like we can get in behind them. Unfortunately that works both ways.

Boss Hogg · Post by **Boss Hogg** » Sat Dec 30, 2023 3:52 pm

Appalling defence. The worst we’ve had at this level.

jedi_master · Post by **jedi_master** » Sat Dec 30, 2023 3:52 pm

Shaun1983 wrote: ↑
Sat Dec 30, 2023 3:49 pm
Berge also picked up a yellow, doesn’t that rule him out of Luton game?

Would it not make him miss Spurs in the cup?

Somethingfishy · Post by **Somethingfishy** » Sat Dec 30, 2023 3:52 pm

Some of our through balls have been laughable too. Overhitting everything.

taio · Post by **taio** » Sat Dec 30, 2023 3:53 pm

boatshed bill wrote: ↑
Sat Dec 30, 2023 3:51 pm
VAR

The linesman gave Foster offside. The other linesman didn't give Watkins offside. The original decisions rightly stood.

CoolClaret · Post by **CoolClaret** » Sat Dec 30, 2023 3:53 pm

Not sure what Delcroix and O’Shea have done wrong today?

Just seems like easy targets for some?

Claretforever · Post by **Claretforever** » Sat Dec 30, 2023 3:53 pm

The offside calls were both correct.

IanMcL · Post by **IanMcL** » Sat Dec 30, 2023 3:53 pm

ksrclaret · Post by **ksrclaret** » Sat Dec 30, 2023 3:53 pm

When you go away to Villa, what’s their biggest threat? Watkins running in behind.

What have we allowed to happen time and time again? Yes, you guessed it. Incredible.