AV we got a thread v Burnley or is this it?

TPClaret · Post by **TPClaret** » Sat Dec 30, 2023 4:04 pm

Superjohnnyfrancis wrote: ↑
Sat Dec 30, 2023 4:03 pm
Takes a bigger man to concede you can’t do the job.

Step away Vincent and let someone who knows what their doing come in.

Seriously

Goliath · Post by **Goliath** » Sat Dec 30, 2023 4:04 pm

Is Berge definitely out for the Luton game, thats absolutely disasterous if so. Cullens the only possible replacement and they will just bully him, id prefer Cork but thatd be a hell of a risk.

ksrclaret · Post by **ksrclaret** » Sat Dec 30, 2023 4:05 pm

hetheclaret wrote: ↑
Sat Dec 30, 2023 4:03 pm
It's one thing knowing the threat and another stopping it. He's one of the best strikers in the league.

Everyone knew what Arjen Robben was going to do every time he got the ball, yet nobody could stop him doing it.

You can organise your defence properly.

Stopping runs in behind is very different, and easier, than stopping an individual player beating a man.

Safron · Post by **Safron** » Sat Dec 30, 2023 4:05 pm

Is dakhil injured or out of favour?

RVclaret · Post by **RVclaret** » Sat Dec 30, 2023 4:05 pm

Goliath wrote: ↑
Sat Dec 30, 2023 4:04 pm
Is Berge definitely out for the Luton game, thats absolutely disasterous if so. Cullens the only possible replacement and they will just bully him, id prefer Cork but thatd be a hell of a risk.

Yes he’s out.

Guller Bull · Post by **Guller Bull** » Sat Dec 30, 2023 4:05 pm

A win today is a must win. Its half time!

jedi_master · Post by **jedi_master** » Sat Dec 30, 2023 4:05 pm

Goliath wrote: ↑
Sat Dec 30, 2023 4:04 pm
Is Berge definitely out for the Luton game, thats absolutely disasterous if so. Cullens the only possible replacement and they will just bully him, id prefer Cork but thatd be a hell of a risk.

Said this after Liverpool. I’d genuinely have started Cullen today to save him for Luton if it’s the case that he doesn’t just sit out Spurs in the Cup.

FCBurnley · Post by **FCBurnley** » Sat Dec 30, 2023 4:05 pm

Game of fractions. Beyer off was a big loss. Foster looking much better. JBG just giving the ball away. WO needs to put more pressure on his fb who looks there for the taking. 2 really soft goals given away as usual

KRBFC · Post by **KRBFC** » Sat Dec 30, 2023 4:06 pm

gandhisflipflop wrote: ↑
Sat Dec 30, 2023 3:49 pm
Delcroix and O’Shea at this level are a frightening partnership. That second goal was a complete calamity from Vitinho not pushing up, to O’Shea going to close down Watkins to delcroix being in no man’s land for the cross.

On a side note, how many goals do we concede from 40-45 mins?!

We have looked very good going forward but yet again it’s the basics letting us down.

Taylor also played Watkins on side

CoolClaret · Post by **CoolClaret** » Sat Dec 30, 2023 4:06 pm

Goliath wrote: ↑
Sat Dec 30, 2023 4:00 pm
Watch Delcroix on the second goal after the balls gone in behind him. He hasnt a clue. Any centre back worth his salt would have sprinted back and got into position around the front post area where he would have cut the cross out no problem.

And no its not because hes an easy target. I dont really have any opinion on Delcroix, not seen enough of him but that was rank bad. As was his right footed pass straight to a Villa player before it when he really obviously should have punted it. I thought we were fairly solid centrally until he came on

I think he actually sees that Vitinho has Watkins and he’s trying to position himself to stop a passback into that space where there’d have been a gaping hole if he ran back to goal

On berge that for me - he was with Diaby all the way then gets bumped off and loses him

expoultryboy · Post by **expoultryboy** » Sat Dec 30, 2023 4:06 pm

At the game and i can't understand why we're playing such a high line against Watkins . There is so much room between our line and Trafford it's scary . Foster has been brilliant but apart from his goal Amdouni has offered nothing. Vitinho is awful today

dsr · Post by **dsr** » Sat Dec 30, 2023 4:06 pm

Claretforever wrote: ↑
Sat Dec 30, 2023 3:53 pm
The offside calls were both correct.

Bearing in mind that Foster is moving too fast for the camera (hence the clown shoes), how can they be sure to the inch of where he was? Bearing in mind that Foster would be moving at about 3 inches in 1/100th of a second, can they be absolutely sure that that picture was taken at the exact 1/100th of a second that the ball was played? (On a probable 26 frames per second camera?)

burnleymik · Post by **burnleymik** » Sat Dec 30, 2023 4:06 pm

Fancy us in this second half. They are as wide open at the back as we are!

jedi_master · Post by **jedi_master** » Sat Dec 30, 2023 4:07 pm

Give Bluenose Redmond a go…!

burnley007 · Post by **burnley007** » Sat Dec 30, 2023 4:07 pm

A good performance against a very successful Villa side.

Keep going boys

SalisburyClaret · Post by **SalisburyClaret** » Sat Dec 30, 2023 4:07 pm

CoolClaret wrote: ↑
Sat Dec 30, 2023 4:03 pm
You want O’Shea running out to marshal Watkins?

Of course - looks what happens when he fails to mark him properly

Just needed to hold him up until we were back in shape

HahaYeah · Post by **HahaYeah** » Sat Dec 30, 2023 4:07 pm

I think we have played very well except for Vitinho and Taylor.

Don't think much of Delcroix though.

BurnleyFC · Post by **BurnleyFC** » Sat Dec 30, 2023 4:08 pm

CoolClaret wrote: ↑
Sat Dec 30, 2023 4:06 pm
I think he actually sees that Vitinho has Watkins and he’s trying to position himself to stop a passback into that space where there’d have been a gaping hole if he ran back to goal

On berge that for me - he was with Diaby all the way then gets bumped off and loses him

Yep, absolutely shite from Berge.

JimmyRobbo · Post by **JimmyRobbo** » Sat Dec 30, 2023 4:09 pm

Unfortunately, what we're seeing is what I feared this year. (I know lots of us did, too.)

Small margins when confidence is high turns into positive outcomes and when confidence is low turns into negative outcomes. Our negligible techincal advantage (compared to relegation contenders) mixed with youth (inexperienced character, mentality, recoginition of danger and physicality) can leave us with too much to overcome.

We will still keep growing and we need to enjoy the good things in the rollercoaster ride.

We've deserved something from this game, so far, yet we're losing and will likely lose at the end of another 45. That's the danger of eating at the big table.

Boss Hogg · Post by **Boss Hogg** » Sat Dec 30, 2023 4:09 pm

Greekclaret wrote: ↑
Sat Dec 30, 2023 4:02 pm
Delcroix isn’t good enough for a prem side. Got absolute pelters when I said this on his first start. He hasn’t improved and still not good enough

This. You could tell his level early on. Another strange signing.

Sproggy · Post by **Sproggy** » Sat Dec 30, 2023 4:09 pm

dsr wrote: ↑
Sat Dec 30, 2023 4:06 pm
Bearing in mind that Foster is moving too fast for the camera (hence the clown shoes), how can they be sure to the inch of where he was? Bearing in mind that Foster would be moving at about 3 inches in 1/100th of a second, can they be absolutely sure that that picture was taken at the exact 1/100th of a second that the ball was played? (On a probable 26 frames per second camera?)

No. They’re pretending to be precise with imprecise tech.

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CrosspoolClarets · Post by **CrosspoolClarets** » Sat Dec 30, 2023 4:09 pm

On the plus side, over the last 10 games or so we now look a Premier League side.

We may or may not be too late for that to save us. But if we go down, it can make us like Leicester bouncing back.

CoolClaret · Post by **CoolClaret** » Sat Dec 30, 2023 4:09 pm

SalisburyClaret wrote: ↑
Sat Dec 30, 2023 4:07 pm
Of course - looks what happens when he fails to mark him properly

Just needed to hold him up until we were back in shape

He did! He didn’t let him get in behind but cut inside where he should run into a midfielder.

Nowhere near on O’Shea that for me it’s what happens after the ball has been released.

CoolClaret · Post by **CoolClaret** » Sat Dec 30, 2023 4:10 pm

BurnleyFC wrote: ↑
Sat Dec 30, 2023 4:08 pm
Yep, absolutely shite from Berge.

Absolutely!

Burnley fan bias on scapegoats is very strange.

jedi_master · Post by **jedi_master** » Sat Dec 30, 2023 4:11 pm

CrosspoolClarets wrote: ↑
Sat Dec 30, 2023 4:09 pm
On the plus side, over the last 10 games or so we now look a Premier League side.

We may or may not be too late for that to save us. But if we go down, it can make us like Leicester bouncing back.

Yes this is the obvious takeaway. I look forward to next season with excitement if the worst happens.

FCBurnley · Post by **FCBurnley** » Sat Dec 30, 2023 4:11 pm

Didn’t realize Berge would miss Luton game with his yellow today. If so he should have sat out today. Today is not going to decide our fate but Luton game is. Big error by VK

chekhov · Post by **chekhov** » Sat Dec 30, 2023 4:11 pm

taio wrote: ↑
Sat Dec 30, 2023 4:02 pm
That's irrelevant

It may be irrelevant but it’s still crazy.

Steddyman · Post by **Steddyman** » Sat Dec 30, 2023 4:12 pm

Vitinho has been shite today.

Newcastleclaret93 · Post by **Newcastleclaret93** » Sat Dec 30, 2023 4:12 pm

CrosspoolClarets wrote: ↑
Sat Dec 30, 2023 4:09 pm
On the plus side, over the last 10 games or so we now look a Premier League side.

We may or may not be too late for that to save us. But if we go down, it can make us like Leicester bouncing back.

Crosspool I know your an optimistic but that is complete ********.

We don’t look anything like a premier league side. We look like a young inexperienced side that keeps giving games away.

jedi_master · Post by **jedi_master** » Sat Dec 30, 2023 4:12 pm

Vitinho

not a great start to his second half. He’s had a decent enough run but maybe time for the return of Connor.

Kgun5 · Post by **Kgun5** » Sat Dec 30, 2023 4:12 pm

Wanted Lyle to rip that shot in.

burnleymik · Post by **burnleymik** » Sat Dec 30, 2023 4:12 pm

Delacroix. Switch on FFS.

jedi_master · Post by **jedi_master** » Sat Dec 30, 2023 4:13 pm

Foster should have shot there rather than that pathetic penalty claim.

Claretforever · Post by **Claretforever** » Sat Dec 30, 2023 4:13 pm

Sproggy wrote: ↑
Sat Dec 30, 2023 4:03 pm
If the frame was taken at the moment the ball was touched.

It seemed to be.

IanMcL · Post by **IanMcL** » Sat Dec 30, 2023 4:13 pm

Foster in and blows it.

SussexDon1inIreland · Post by **SussexDon1inIreland** » Sat Dec 30, 2023 4:13 pm

Switch Charlie Taylor to CB and move Delacroix to LB?

taio · Post by **taio** » Sat Dec 30, 2023 4:14 pm

Delcroix with a terrible pass

Moorite · Post by **Moorite** » Sat Dec 30, 2023 4:14 pm

Does Foster have a left foot?

ksrclaret · Post by **ksrclaret** » Sat Dec 30, 2023 4:14 pm

Let’s hope that Ekdal is fit for Luton.

Delcroix is atrocious.

CrosspoolClarets · Post by **CrosspoolClarets** » Sat Dec 30, 2023 4:14 pm

I’m not a fan of Villa’s offside trap against a quick forward line. Far more offsides than anyone, Villa cause.

Foshiznik · Post by **Foshiznik** » Sat Dec 30, 2023 4:14 pm

dsr wrote: ↑
Sat Dec 30, 2023 4:06 pm
Bearing in mind that Foster is moving too fast for the camera (hence the clown shoes), how can they be sure to the inch of where he was? Bearing in mind that Foster would be moving at about 3 inches in 1/100th of a second, can they be absolutely sure that that picture was taken at the exact 1/100th of a second that the ball was played? (On a probable 26 frames per second camera?)

Fair point but surely if the on field decision was onside it wouldn’t have been overturned?

wilks_bfc · Post by **wilks_bfc** » Sat Dec 30, 2023 4:15 pm

Foster should have just smashed that instead of turning back in

randomclaret2 · Post by **randomclaret2** » Sat Dec 30, 2023 4:15 pm

FCBurnley wrote: ↑
Sat Dec 30, 2023 4:11 pm
Didn’t realize Berge would miss Luton game with his yellow today. If so he should have sat out today. Today is not going to decide our fate but Luton game is. Big error by VK

Doesnt the ' 5 booking ' rule re-set after 19 games ?

CoolClaret · Post by **CoolClaret** » Sat Dec 30, 2023 4:15 pm

Foster Is brilliant

Just saying

SussexDon1inIreland · Post by **SussexDon1inIreland** » Sat Dec 30, 2023 4:16 pm

Foster VAR decision-If it had been Villa it would have been given as a goal

Newcastleclaret93 · Post by **Newcastleclaret93** » Sat Dec 30, 2023 4:17 pm

SussexDon1inIreland wrote: ↑
Sat Dec 30, 2023 4:16 pm
Foster VAR decision-If it had been Villa it would have been given as a goal

Why would an offside goal have been given?

ksrclaret · Post by **ksrclaret** » Sat Dec 30, 2023 4:17 pm

SussexDon1inIreland wrote: ↑
Sat Dec 30, 2023 4:16 pm
Foster VAR decision-If it had been Villa it would have been given as a goal

No it wouldn’t. Stop being silly.

IanMcL · Post by **IanMcL** » Sat Dec 30, 2023 4:17 pm

Well grabbed Trafford

taio · Post by **taio** » Sat Dec 30, 2023 4:18 pm

randomclaret2 wrote: ↑
Sat Dec 30, 2023 4:15 pm
Doesnt the ' 5 booking ' rule re-set after 19 games ?

Yes

IanMcL · Post by **IanMcL** » Sat Dec 30, 2023 4:18 pm

Vitinho bad first half. Now he's deteriorating!