AV we got a thread v Burnley or is this it?

Superjohnnyfrancis · Post by **Superjohnnyfrancis** » Sat Dec 30, 2023 4:57 pm

superdimitri wrote: ↑
Sat Dec 30, 2023 4:56 pm
Ramsay didn't really do a whole lot wrong. Duran Duran just put himself in the way to get a touch. It was ridiculous. He wasn't going anywhere and the ref gave it on his rolling around.

He was hungry like the wolf that’s all

Boss Hogg · Post by **Boss Hogg** » Sat Dec 30, 2023 4:57 pm

The worst signing of the lot for me.

claret2018 · Post by **claret2018** » Sat Dec 30, 2023 4:57 pm

Makes no difference really does it. We were down weeks ago

Belgianclaret · Post by **Belgianclaret** » Sat Dec 30, 2023 4:57 pm

Shambles

I hate the PL

ALP · Post by **ALP** » Sat Dec 30, 2023 4:57 pm

Truly shocking decision, these referees are falling for cheating every week. I'm with others and really hate this league and the cheating that it has

JimmyRobbo · Post by **JimmyRobbo** » Sat Dec 30, 2023 4:57 pm

Newcastleclaret93 wrote: ↑
Sat Dec 30, 2023 4:55 pm
They really are soft penalties to give but unfortunately they are given in the premier league.

You're right.

Why though? I don't even think they're fouls. Did he trip him up? He touched him. It's incidental. It's crap.

CrosspoolClarets · Post by **CrosspoolClarets** » Sat Dec 30, 2023 4:58 pm

Hate the cheating, they have been throwing themselves over all day from the slightest contact. Not a fan of this manager at all.

It wins games because our officials are so incompetent.

burnley007 · Post by **burnley007** » Sat Dec 30, 2023 4:58 pm

10 vs 12 is a tough match up.

Plus they have VAR as a back up.

Superjohnnyfrancis · Post by **Superjohnnyfrancis** » Sat Dec 30, 2023 4:58 pm

Boss Hogg wrote: ↑
Sat Dec 30, 2023 4:56 pm
Nearly every time he comes on. Don’t know how he gets game time.

We paid £12m for this kid nearly as embarrassing as the other one.

KRBFC · Post by **KRBFC** » Sat Dec 30, 2023 4:58 pm

Should never have Been in our box, Taylor walking absolutely shocking

dsr · Post by **dsr** » Sat Dec 30, 2023 4:58 pm

JimmyRobbo wrote: ↑
Sat Dec 30, 2023 4:54 pm
Why are those penalities?

Are they really a foul? Are they really tripping up players? I hate it in normal play and I hate it in anyu game.

"There's contact!" means nothing in normal football.

Of course they aren't fouls in the real world. The problem is that in football, they haven't defined what is meant by a trip, so if a man dives, the ref can give a penalty or not at random. And VAR chooses not to help out.

This is a case when they ought to tell the ref to have another look, but they don't.

jedi_master · Post by **jedi_master** » Sat Dec 30, 2023 4:58 pm

Ramsey will be a good player but that £15m or whatever it was should have been spent on someone like the bloke coming on instead (Dendoncker). He’s just too little and soft to play in the middle as yet.

alboclaret · Post by **alboclaret** » Sat Dec 30, 2023 4:58 pm

warksclaret wrote: ↑
Sat Dec 30, 2023 4:55 pm
Ramsey appears to have been a liability in nearly all the games he has played in

I see nothing in him at all.

JimmyRobbo · Post by **JimmyRobbo** » Sat Dec 30, 2023 4:58 pm

As if it wasn't bad enough listening to Hendrie before they took the lead.

BurnleyFC · Post by **BurnleyFC** » Sat Dec 30, 2023 4:58 pm

superdimitri wrote: ↑
Sat Dec 30, 2023 4:56 pm
Ramsay didn't really do a whole lot wrong. Duran Duran just put himself in the way to get a touch. It was ridiculous. He wasn't going anywhere and the ref gave it on his rolling around.

It’s absolutely on Ramsey. Brain dead.

I don’t know about Connor Roberts having it out with Jacob Ramsey, he should bollocked his younger brother instead.

wilks_bfc · Post by **wilks_bfc** » Sat Dec 30, 2023 4:59 pm

Joke

It was more Duran standing on Ramsey foot than Ramsey kicking his foot

SouthamptonClaret · Post by **SouthamptonClaret** » Sat Dec 30, 2023 4:59 pm

I said to my nipper about 20 minutes ago they'd win it with a penalty, ref couldn't wait to give it

claret2018 · Post by **claret2018** » Sat Dec 30, 2023 4:59 pm

For all the cries of conspiracy you’ve got to remember Villa have been much the better side.

Newcastleclaret93 · Post by **Newcastleclaret93** » Sat Dec 30, 2023 4:59 pm

JimmyRobbo wrote: ↑
Sat Dec 30, 2023 4:57 pm
You're right.

Why though? I don't even think they're fouls. Did he trip him up? He touched him. It's incidental. It's crap.

Yep it’s crap, it’s been a weird penalty for years in the premier league.

Woodleyclaret · Post by **Woodleyclaret** » Sat Dec 30, 2023 4:59 pm

Why on Earth was Ramsay even on ?

It Is What It Is · Post by **It Is What It Is** » Sat Dec 30, 2023 4:59 pm

That pen would never have been given in the Championship.

superdimitri · Post by **superdimitri** » Sat Dec 30, 2023 4:59 pm

In this game you can see why a lot of people are put off football. Awful cheating. Inconsistent refereeing. I can't understand how it's allowed in the game.

scouseclaret · Post by **scouseclaret** » Sat Dec 30, 2023 4:59 pm

Soft decision but that’s at least the third time Ramsey has given a goal away due to a horrible first touch, and he’s hardly played.

DAVETHEVICAR · Post by **DAVETHEVICAR** » Sat Dec 30, 2023 4:59 pm

They cheat more on Championship and without VAR teams have goals ruled out for offside when they are clearly on

Carlos the Great · Post by **Carlos the Great** » Sat Dec 30, 2023 5:00 pm

Berge sent off for arguing and a little shirt pull .. that’s ridiculous

Superjohnnyfrancis · Post by **Superjohnnyfrancis** » Sat Dec 30, 2023 5:00 pm

Woodleyclaret wrote: ↑
Sat Dec 30, 2023 4:59 pm
Why on Earth was Ramsay even on ?

Klueless Kompany

Clive 1960 · Post by **Clive 1960** » Sat Dec 30, 2023 5:00 pm

we shot ourselves in the foot, Taylor should have been hooked early and Vitinho gone there and Roberts to right back , and Ramsey should have hoofed it trying to take a touch in is own area, criminal...

Greekclaret · Post by **Greekclaret** » Sat Dec 30, 2023 5:01 pm

Is Cullen injured?

JimmyRobbo · Post by **JimmyRobbo** » Sat Dec 30, 2023 5:01 pm

scouseclaret wrote: ↑
Sat Dec 30, 2023 4:59 pm
Soft decision but that’s at least the third time Ramsey has given a goal away due to a horrible first touch, and he’s hardly played.

You're right. He is not ready for the prem. I suppose we can hope he learns and this is part of the process. At least it's only a point that we might lose.

CoolClaret · Post by **CoolClaret** » Sat Dec 30, 2023 5:01 pm

Just sickening

I despise the PL

Taffy on the wing · Post by **Taffy on the wing** » Sat Dec 30, 2023 5:01 pm

Superjohnnyfrancis wrote: ↑
Sat Dec 30, 2023 5:00 pm
Klueless Kompany

SHUT UP!

scouseclaret · Post by **scouseclaret** » Sat Dec 30, 2023 5:01 pm

jedi_master wrote: ↑
Sat Dec 30, 2023 4:58 pm
Ramsey will be a good player but that £15m or whatever it was should have been spent on someone like the bloke coming on instead (Dendoncker). He’s just too little and soft to play in the middle as yet.

I’ve seen nothing in Ramsey to suggest he will be a good player. His brief appearances so far have all been strewn with errors and I’m struggling to think of a positive contribution.

Belgianclaret · Post by **Belgianclaret** » Sat Dec 30, 2023 5:02 pm

Tresor anonymous again

Westleigh · Post by **Westleigh** » Sat Dec 30, 2023 5:02 pm

We wus robbed ,never a pen they should have had a red card ,and a soft sending off ,we deserve better.

wilks_bfc · Post by **wilks_bfc** » Sat Dec 30, 2023 5:02 pm

Even Dean Smith on 5Live says it wasn’t a pen

Jimmymaccer · Post by **Jimmymaccer** » Sat Dec 30, 2023 5:02 pm

If there’s a touch it’s the slightest………he then dives………..theatrically……….Villa pen………no 5 minutes from every angle…….no VAR checking every touch/wink in the build up…….. just “yep, complete ………..send them sh#tty upstarts back up north”

jedi_master · Post by **jedi_master** » Sat Dec 30, 2023 5:02 pm

scouseclaret wrote: ↑
Sat Dec 30, 2023 5:01 pm
I’ve seen nothing in Ramsey to suggest he will be a good player. His brief appearances so far have all been strewn with errors and I’m struggling to think of a positive contribution.

Was really good against Man Utd and looked decent when he came on against West Ham IMO. That’s about it though.

Darthlaw · Post by **Darthlaw** » Sat Dec 30, 2023 5:02 pm

Carlos the Great wrote: ↑
Sat Dec 30, 2023 5:00 pm
Berge sent off for arguing and a little shirt pull .. that’s ridiculous

It is when you think both are now yellow card offences and Berge should know better.

Newcastleclaret93 · Post by **Newcastleclaret93** » Sat Dec 30, 2023 5:02 pm

It appears JJ Watt thinks the ref had a shocker haha

Could he get bollocked for that?

scouseclaret · Post by **scouseclaret** » Sat Dec 30, 2023 5:03 pm

Clive 1960 wrote: ↑
Sat Dec 30, 2023 5:00 pm
we shot ourselves in the foot, Taylor should have been hooked early and Vitinho gone there and Roberts to right back , and Ramsey should have hoofed it trying to take a touch in is own area, criminal...

You reckon Vitinho was better than Taylor??!!

Belgianclaret · Post by **Belgianclaret** » Sat Dec 30, 2023 5:03 pm

Crap team Villa

boatshed bill · Post by **boatshed bill** » Sat Dec 30, 2023 5:03 pm

Clive 1960 wrote: ↑
Sat Dec 30, 2023 5:00 pm
we shot ourselves in the foot, Taylor should have been hooked early and Vitinho gone there and Roberts to right back , and Ramsey should have hoofed it trying to take a touch in is own area, criminal...

I can't see how that would have helped.

FCBurnley · Post by **FCBurnley** » Sat Dec 30, 2023 5:03 pm

Can’t imagine how much Attwell has put on a Villa win. He was determined to do what ever he had to do to get them the 3 points. The no hand ball given when Foster was in on goal was mystifying to say the least. Now he is pathetically booking Martinez as if that’s gonna make things better. Most corrupt display by a ref I have ever seen

Superjohnnyfrancis · Post by **Superjohnnyfrancis** » Sat Dec 30, 2023 5:03 pm

scouseclaret wrote: ↑
Sat Dec 30, 2023 5:01 pm
I’ve seen nothing in Ramsey to suggest he will be a good player. His brief appearances so far have all been strewn with errors and I’m struggling to think of a positive contribution.

Think that’s 3 goals that you could pin on him as school boy errors now. Two falling over the ball and now this penalty.

Might be a fourth but I can’t remember it

Beagle · Post by **Beagle** » Sat Dec 30, 2023 5:04 pm

Newcastleclaret93 wrote: ↑
Sat Dec 30, 2023 5:02 pm
It appears JJ Watt thinks the ref had a shocker haha

Could he get bollocked for that?

No

CoolClaret · Post by **CoolClaret** » Sat Dec 30, 2023 5:04 pm

How can anyone be happy with this?

Even if I was a Villa fan I wouldn't be happy with that. It's just b0llocks and a huge indictment on the state of these weasels that ruin football matches every week.

ksrclaret · Post by **ksrclaret** » Sat Dec 30, 2023 5:04 pm

JimmyRobbo wrote: ↑
Sat Dec 30, 2023 5:01 pm
You're right. He is not ready for the prem. I suppose we can hope he learns and this is part of the process. At least it's only a point that we might lose.

We’re basically written a season off in order to give these young players we’ve bought the time and space to potentially develop into better players.

Some of them are now improving but it’s too late and we’ve sacrificed too many points already.

superdimitri · Post by **superdimitri** » Sat Dec 30, 2023 5:04 pm

Absolutely shocking. Every Villa fan got out of the right side of their bed today. Including Atwell.

Great performance from us. On another day we'd have won. Encouraging.

IanMcL · Post by **IanMcL** » Sat Dec 30, 2023 5:05 pm

****. B astard prem

SussexDon1inIreland · Post by **SussexDon1inIreland** » Sat Dec 30, 2023 5:05 pm

We lost to 12 vs 10