Aston Villa v Burnley - Player Ratings

ClaretTony · Post by **ClaretTony** » Sat Dec 30, 2023 5:31 pm

Please leave ratings for all players who have played 20 mins or more.

Scoring is from 3 to 10 as follows:

10 - Out of this World
9 - Excellent
8 - Very Good
7 -Good
6 - Average
5 - Below Par
4 - Poor
3 - Abysmal

HahaYeah · Post by **HahaYeah** » Sat Dec 30, 2023 5:36 pm

Trafford 8
Vitinho 6
OShea 7
Beyer na
Taylor 5
Odobert 6
Berge 4....thought he'd more oil in his can than that.
Brownhill 7
Gudmundsson 7
Foster 8
Amdouni 7

Subs:
Delcroix 6
Ramsey 6
Roberts 6
Tresor 6

firebfcfire · Post by **firebfcfire** » Sat Dec 30, 2023 5:40 pm

Trafford - 8
Vitinho - 5
O'Shea - 6
Beyer N/A
Taylor - 5
Odobert - 6
Berge - 4
Brownhill - 7
Jbg - 5
Amdouni - 7 (+1 for goal)
Foster - 9*

Delacroix - 4 he's so bad
Ramsey - 3
Tresor - 5

RVclaret · Post by **RVclaret** » Sat Dec 30, 2023 5:43 pm

Trafford 8 - excellent again
Vitinho 5 - not for me
O’Shea 6 - has grown into this league
Beyer na - another injury
Taylor 5 - struggled against, in fairness, an excellent Bailey
JBG 6 - big part in both goals, yet let down by poor basics
Brownhill 8 - felt he showed some quality and lots of fight
Berge 5 - really silly red, played ok until that
Odobert 6 - carried a threat but struggled going backwards
Amdouni 6 - well taken goal
Foster 9* - this lad is seriously good

Delcroix 6 - lots of negativity about him but he did ok
Ramsey 6 - inexperience for the pen, albeit didn’t agree with the decision
Roberts 5
Tresor 6

Jakubs Tash · Post by **Jakubs Tash** » Sat Dec 30, 2023 5:43 pm

Trafford 8

Vitinho 5
Beyer NA
O’Shea 6
Taylor 6

JBG 6
Brownhill 7
Berge 7
Odobert 6

Amdouni 7
Foster 9

Delcroix 5
Ramsey 5

kaptin1 · Post by **kaptin1** » Sat Dec 30, 2023 5:43 pm

Trafford 8
Vitinho 6
O’Shea 8
Beyer 6
Taylor 6
JBG 5
Berge 3 (was crap even before his stupid second yellow)
Brownhill 7
Odobert 4
Amdouni 8 (+1)
Foster 10 (outstanding)

Delcroix 4 (not Premier League standard)
Ramsey 4 (felt sorry for him giving the penalty away but he’s just a bit too naive at this level)
Roberts / Tresor n/a

ChristheViking · Post by **ChristheViking** » Sat Dec 30, 2023 5:44 pm

Trafford - 8

Vitinho - 5 - great tackle at the end but for the most part he was poor.
O'Shea - 7 - could maybe be tighter for the 2nd goal but wins the header for our first
Delcroix - 6 - looked nervous but grew into it.
Taylor - 5 - ok but was on toast at the end.

Brownhill - 7 - could maybe do better with the shot in the 1st half
Berge - 4 - a stupid booking but also didn't track hard enough for the 2nd goal.
JBG - 6 - looked to stretch them
Odobert - 6 - a bit quiet but remains one of our threats.

Foster - 9 - a superb display of power running. He terrified them all day.
Amdouni - 7 - quiet but nice goal

Robert - 6 - should be starting over Vitinho.
Tresor - 6 - I think we've got to persevere with him. The talent is there
Ramsey - 4 - yes the penalty is a complete joke but so is his touch/decision - it's in the box so just clear it.

So many positives to take from that. Villa didn't beat us but the officials most certainly did. An absolute joke of a penalty - what can you do - beyond belief.

Defensively we still look fragile but that's probably the most threatening we've looked all season. The 10 men were excellent. If we play like that we'll pick up points. Whether we pick up enough we'll see but the performance was there today.

SalisburyClaret · Post by **SalisburyClaret** » Sat Dec 30, 2023 5:45 pm

Trafford - 8 excellent again
Vitinho - 5 a liability at right back
O'Shea - 5
Beyer -
Taylor - 5 up against a top winger
Odobert - 6
Berge - 3 Stupid
Brownhill - 7
Jbg - 6
Amdouni - 7
Foster - 9*

Delacroix - 4 needs to go to the Championship
Ramsey - 3 just awful
Tresor - 4 offered nothing

BurnleyFC · Post by **BurnleyFC** » Sat Dec 30, 2023 5:48 pm

Trafford 9 - excellent again and good distribution
Vitinho 5 - good going forward but struggled defensively
O’Shea 7 - solid
Beyer 6 - hope it’s not too serious
Taylor 5 - a fairly torrid afternoon
Odobert 6 - quiet by his standards
Berge 4 - poor for their second and a daft second yellow
Brownhill 7 - industrious and worked hard
Gudmundsson 6 - a great flick on for our second
Foster 9* - simply superb performance from Lyle
Amdouni 6 - good finish, drifted in and out

Delcroix 6 - did OK
Ramsey 3 - powderpuff and brain dead
Roberts 6 - tenacious as usual
Tresor 5 - fairly anonymous

Casper2 · Post by **Casper2** » Sat Dec 30, 2023 5:52 pm

Trafford - 8
Vitinho - 5
O'Shea - 6
Beyer N/A
Taylor - 5
Odobert - 6
Berge - 4
Brownhill - 7
Jbg - 5
Amdouni - 7
Foster - 9

Delacroix - 4
Ramsey - 3
Tresor - 5

ClaretTony · Post by **ClaretTony** » Sat Dec 30, 2023 5:52 pm

I’ll do my player ratings later but have to confirm what everyone is saying about Foster. He’s struggled since coming back which is understandable but he was absolutely brilliant today.

ClaretMat · Post by **ClaretMat** » Sat Dec 30, 2023 5:56 pm

Trafford 8 - made a number of very good saves. His distribution was also pretty good, a couple of excellent passes to pick out Vitinho.
Vitinho 6 - a number of sloppy touches and passes but stuck at the task well.
O'Shea 7 - solid performance and dangerous on set pieces. Needed to be more aware of where his full backs were for their second though.
Beyer - n/a
Taylor 6 - generally a very solid performance but culpable for their third, he got beaten a little too easily.
JBG 7 - good assist for Fosters goal, used the ball well and hiw discipline and positional awareness really helps us shore up the midfield.
Brownhill 7 - plenty of effort, some good interceptions, perhaps could have done slightly better with his chances on the first half.
Berge 6 - he was having a solid game but silly for the second yellow.
Odobert 7 - always a threat.
Amdouni 7 - took his goal really well but why did he leave the cross which Foster played to him in the first half? Probably should gave released the ball for the disallowed goal earlier....
Foster 9* - fantastic performance. His pace and power are a huge asset for us and he and Zeki are forging a good understanding.

Delcroix 5 - unconvincing. Is Ekdal injured?

Overall a very good performance and I thought we were a little unfortunate to go in behind at half time. The defending for both of their goals was a little naive. We are however improving hugely, the shape of the side was generally very good. The none decision re the red card for the intentional hand ball is nothing short of negligent.

BabylonClaret · Post by **BabylonClaret** » Sat Dec 30, 2023 5:56 pm

Hard to bear. Really battled well, just the wrong side of 2 offsides and a soft pen. When they nicked the second we were playi g some lovely football - we are getting better but desperately need a leader in the middle. Crap ref - homer doesn't really cover it but hey ho.

Trafford 8 - great performance
Taylor 6 - struggled against Bailey but 2nd half was overloaded
Beyer - na (worrying injury again)
O Shea 8 - battled hard and starting to look a player
Vitinho 5 - struggled like Taylor but very wasteful on the ball
Odobert 6 - did ok but needs to protect the ball better
Berge 5 - not a great game caped by 2nd yellow although that throw form harkie left him in it
Brownhill 7 battled hard especially 2nd
JbG 7 - stuck to his tasks and a lovely flick for the 2nd
Foster 8 mom - might have had 3 on another day. Made them look ordinary at best at the back
Amdouni 5 - good finish, rest of the match was typical - some decent touches but sadly plays for about 5-10 mins a game

Delcroix 5 - regularly gave the ball away in dangerous positions (including their 1st)
Ramsay 5 - was doing OK but essentially cost us another goal with a shite touch in the area to let them snaffle a 'penalty'
Tresor 5 not sure if he really made any difference - needed Redmond for his experience
Roberts 6 decent enough

FCBurnley · Post by **FCBurnley** » Sat Dec 30, 2023 5:57 pm

Trafford 8. Not that much to do and no chance with goals
Vitinho 5 I prefer Roberts at rb
O’Shea 6
Delcroix 4 not a pl player
Taylor 5
JBG 5 inc 1 for assist. Otherwise wasteful
Brownhill 6
Berge 4 Prob cost us the game. Hope he is available for Luton
Ogdobert 4 disappointing today
Amdouni 6
Foster 9 MOM could easily have scored 3 apart from fractional offside and shocking decision by Attwell ( Luton fan )

Tresor 3 no effort whatsoever
Ramsay 3 a long way to go. Villas must be laughing at us

Overall a great effort by most of the team. Difficult to get a result when it’s 10 v 12 !

ClaretAL · Post by **ClaretAL** » Sat Dec 30, 2023 5:59 pm

ClaretTony wrote: ↑
Sat Dec 30, 2023 5:52 pm
I’ll do my player ratings later but have to confirm what everyone is saying about Foster. He’s struggled since coming back which is understandable but he was absolutely brilliant today.

Seconded

Jakubs Tash · Post by **Jakubs Tash** » Sat Dec 30, 2023 6:00 pm

ClaretTony wrote: ↑
Sat Dec 30, 2023 5:52 pm
I’ll do my player ratings later but have to confirm what everyone is saying about Foster. He’s struggled since coming back which is understandable but he was absolutely brilliant today.

Outstanding display of centre forward play.

fungus_the_bogeyman · Post by **fungus_the_bogeyman** » Sat Dec 30, 2023 6:03 pm

Trafford 8
Vitinho 5
Taylor 5
O’Shea 6
Berge 4
Brownhill 7
Gudmundsson 6
Odobert 6
Amdouni 7
Foster 9* - absolutely outstanding

Delcroix 4
Ramsey 4

bfcjg · Post by **bfcjg** » Sat Dec 30, 2023 6:04 pm

Trafford - 8 good game, solid and gaining confidence.
Vitinho - 4 needs dropping
O'Shea - 6
Beyer hope it's just a knock
Taylor - 5 hard game for him.
Odobert - 6 quiet
Berge - 4 pillock.
Brownhill - 7 everywhere again.
Jbg - 5 great flick on
Amdouni - 7
Foster - 9 mom, welcome return to his devastating best.

Delacroix - 4 not up to it.
Ramsey - 3 costly again.
Tresor - 5

CoolClaret · Post by **CoolClaret** » Sat Dec 30, 2023 6:06 pm

Trafford 9 - Superb today, played a style much more suited to his strength
Vitinho 5 - Struggled today in the first half but got better - tough day out defending against Watkins who likes to pull wide... maybe time for Roberts?
O'Shea 7 - Have no issues with Dara now. People need to stop Scapegoating - him and Ekdal are our best two CBs for me.
Beyer N/A
Taylor 4 - Shite today sadly, though Bailey is a top player
Berge 3 - Woeful - moronic bookings and terrible on their second goal
Brownhill 7 - Everywhere, good attempts on goal and linked play well
JBG 7 - Showed why he is favoured in that 4-4-2
Odobert 6 - Bit quiet but moments of genius
Amdouni 7 - Brilliant finish, bit anonymous otherwise
Foster 9* - Superb, like prime Drogba out there. Did not deserve to be on a losing team.

Delcroix 6 - Will be scapegoated but did nothing wrong. No worse than Beyer has been at centre half.
Ramsey 4 - Miles off it, I admire VKs desire to bring youth on but this kid isn't mentally ready. Been a liability off the bench.
Roberts 6 - Could be pushing for a start? Tenacious today
Trésor 6 - Some good touches - want to see him start 'in the ten'

PhiladelphiaChris · Post by **PhiladelphiaChris** » Sat Dec 30, 2023 6:06 pm

Trafford 8
Vitinho 7
Taylor 6
O’Shea 7
Berge 5
Brownhill 7
Gudmundsson 7
Odobert 6
Amdouni 7
Foster 9

Delcroix 6
Ramsey 5

Petersa · Post by **Petersa** » Sat Dec 30, 2023 6:07 pm

Ramsey....reminds me of Jeff Tate having an off day

CrosspoolClarets · Post by **CrosspoolClarets** » Sat Dec 30, 2023 6:08 pm

Trafford 8 - faultless really, kept us in it and nearly got us points

Vitinho 5 - mistake after mistake, and, frankly, has to be upgraded ASAP, fine as a squad player
O’Shea 6 - had to carry players either side of him and he isn’t good or vocal enough to do it
Taylor 6 - not his best game and was booked early which didn’t help

JBG 6 - selecting him felt right and had a good game, I said before the game he creates more chances than almost anyone in the division and he assisted what should have been the point winning goal
Brownhill 7 - battling effort avoided us being overrun
Berge 5 - not his best game before the sending off which really cost us, happy if it means he missed Spurs not Luton but it should have been on 89 minutes.
Odobert 6 - fairly quiet and he does drift out of games too much

Amdouni 7 - in and out but a good finish and well needed
Foster 9 - tore them to bits with their silly high line coupled with offside trap. Really unlucky not to have 2, arguably wasted another couple of chances

Delcroix 5 - ok but struggled, unclear if it is not having much football in recent years because he does have a Belgium cap
Ramsey 5 - appears far too lightweight for that battle which isn’t his fault, there weren’t the right subs on the bench, Massengo would have been perfect, Kompany’s big mistake

Super encouraging and IF we see Forest lose it has been a good day. We are competing in every game and it gives me confidence we can get 2 wins from the away games left as well as 5 wins from home games, which MAY be enough.

Foster showed us what we have missed and with our weakness statistically being goalscoring and chance creation we now have 2 in both away games since his return. The Luton game will be the key litmus - spank them and we’ll know we can stay up, fail to win and its beyond us.

The result today - robbed by luck, silly VAR rules, diving and bad refereeing which fell for cheating. That’s what I hate about this league, it exposes smaller clubs to all of them. The “clear and obvious” rule is so subjective it brings in big club / home bias, e.g. our winner at Forest was deemed a clear and obvious error, whereas the handball red card today and dive from a minor touch of boots was not. That’s why this league is corrupt, they set the rules in a way that favours the bigger clubs.

But we crack on.

Woody9229 · Post by **Woody9229** » Sat Dec 30, 2023 6:12 pm

Foster was excellent and it’s great to see but if he hadn’t hesitated to appeal for the handball rather than capitalise on the error he wld have had more chance to have a proper shot at goal rather than a late stab. Just saying.

roperclaret · Post by **roperclaret** » Sat Dec 30, 2023 6:14 pm

Not getting the 4’s for Delcroix. Certainly not that bad in my opinion.

CoolClaret · Post by **CoolClaret** » Sat Dec 30, 2023 6:19 pm

roperclaret wrote: ↑
Sat Dec 30, 2023 6:14 pm
Not getting the 4’s for Delcroix. Certainly not that bad in my opinion.

Just become a scapegoat for some that can't look past the name

hoskinsgoalatswansea · Post by **hoskinsgoalatswansea** » Sat Dec 30, 2023 6:21 pm

Trafford 7
Vitinho 5
Taylor 6
O’Shea 6
Berge 4
Brownhill 6
Gudmundsson 6
Odobert 5
Amdouni 7
Foster 8

Delcroix 7
Ramsey 3

taio · Post by **taio** » Sat Dec 30, 2023 6:27 pm

Trafford 8
Vitinho 4
O’Shea 7
Beyer n/a
Taylor 4
JBG 6
Brownhill 7
Berge 5
Odobert 6
Amdouni 7
Foster 9*

Delcroix 4
Ramsey 5

jedi_master · Post by **jedi_master** » Sat Dec 30, 2023 6:33 pm

Trafford 8
Vitinho 4
O’Shea 7
Beyer 7 whilst on
Taylor 5
Brownhill 7
Berge 5
Odobert 6
JBG 6
Amdouni 6
Foster 9

Delcroix 5
Ramsey 5

Goliath · Post by **Goliath** » Sat Dec 30, 2023 6:35 pm

Trafford 8 Best performance of the season. Made good decisions in possession and only flapped badly once.
Vitinho 4 Garbage, the way he deals with the ball over his head is lower league level. He panics and has no clue where its going so cant head it. Then compounds the error by continuing to panic and diving in. Crossing again woeful, passing erratic at best. Hes like a poorer version of Mo Camara. His pace is the only reason hes playing.
Taylor 5 kept at it but really struggled against a really tricky winger in Bailey
O’Shea 6 Think he did ok and is starting to emerge as the leader of the backline over Beyer.
Berge 5 Thought he had started to play well then made the stupid decision to get himself sent off.
Brownhill 6 His running stats must be really impressive, vital to the team even though he lacks quality. He is the leader of this team.
Gudmundsson 7 Hes in the team because his defensive positioning and work rate is fantastic. Also popped up with an assist. Taking him off for Roberts made no sense to me because JBG does such a good job defensively, id have preferred Roberts for Vitinho.
Odobert 5 not his day and got away with switching off defensively a few times. Bringing Tresor on for him when defending a point with 10 men was utter madness though.
Amdouni 6 - Right place right time for once, the rest was ok.
Foster 9 - Absolutely fantastic strikers performance. We havent had a striker like this since i started watching Burnley in 2002. Pace, power, great with his back to play or driving forwards with the ball and a very good finisher. Akinbiyi is the only one i can remember with similar qualities but at a lower level. Id be temped to go 451 with him up top, hes the perfect striker to lead the line and allow us to bulk up midfield slightly.

Delcroix 6 Awful until half time, especially on the 2nd goal but i thought he was good 2nd half. Still dont think he shows the aggression we need.
Ramsey 4 - another goal given away by him. He needs to go out on loan or play as a number 10 in a role with less responsibility. Cost us the result and id blame Kompany for that one. He should have moved him to the left instead of putting Tresor there. Jbg could have gone central.

Decent performance but i think we lost our defensive solidarity when Beyer went on. Unfortunately we have a few too many players that arent good enough for this level at this moment and it catches us out regularly. Kompanys subs were absolutely dreadful on top of that unfortunately.

Best display from a number 9 ive seen from us for a number of years. Him and Odobert could make us 70 to 80 million in the summer which will give us a decent budget to come back up.

Rowls · Post by **Rowls** » Sat Dec 30, 2023 6:51 pm

Trafford 9
Vitinho 5
Beyer (not marked)
Delcroix 6
O'Shea 7
Taylor 6
JBG 7
Brownhill 6
Berge 8 (-1)
Odobert 7
Amdouni 7
Foster 9

Ramsey 7

Nonayforever · Post by **Nonayforever** » Sat Dec 30, 2023 7:04 pm

Trafford 6 getting better marks as we are now playing long
Vitinho 6
O Shea 7
Delacroix 4 not PL level
Taylor 6
JBG 7
Brownhill 8 one of his best games
Berge 6 bad throw in snookered him
Odobert 8 going to be a world beater
Amdouni 7
Foster 9 Brilliant

Ramsey 4 just not ready

BurnleyFC · Post by **BurnleyFC** » Sat Dec 30, 2023 7:05 pm

Rowls wrote: ↑
Sat Dec 30, 2023 6:51 pm
Trafford 9
Vitinho 5
Beyer (not marked)
Delcroix 6
O'Shea 7
Taylor 6
JBG 7
Brownhill 6
Berge 8 (-1)
Odobert 7
Amdouni 7
Foster 9

Ramsey 7

You thought Ramsey was better than Brownhill?

Come on, Rowls.

burnley007 · Post by **burnley007** » Sat Dec 30, 2023 7:08 pm

Trafford 8 excellent again
Vitinho 7 my god he does some work.
OShea 7 improving
Beyer na worrying
Taylor 6 meh
Odobert 5 far too quiet
Berge 7 did well until the ref got involved
Brownhill 7 workaholic
Gudmundsson 6 meh
Foster 9 what a performance
Amdouni 7 grafter

Subs:
Delcroix 7 did very well.
Ramsey 5 so very lightweight
Roberts 6 meh
Tresor 5 nothing

AlargeClaret · Post by **AlargeClaret** » Sat Dec 30, 2023 7:09 pm

Trafford - 7- some tidy saves no chance goals
Vitinho - 5- nowhere near prem level, his clearance skills are shocking
O'Shea - 6- he battles but we desperately need better
Beyer -na
Taylor - 6- very tough gig kept at it
Odobert - 5 lively when in possession
Berge - 4 - daft sending off from the sloth like Viking
Brownhill - 6-battled hard
Jbg - 6- steady but pretty inconsequential
Amdouni - 7 (+1 for goal) no doubt his skill but in and out
Foster - 8 our only real danger

Delacroix - 4 awful looks clueless , maybe just rusty ?

JohnMac · Post by **JohnMac** » Sat Dec 30, 2023 7:24 pm

Trafford - 8- Growing into it nicely
Vitinho - 6
O'Shea - 7 Superb set up for the 1st
Beyer - Was he 100% fit to start?
Taylor - 7
Odobert - 6
Berge - 5 Wasn't at it today before the soft 2nd card
Brownhill - 7 - Busy throughout
Jbg - 7 Made the 2nd
Amdouni - 7 Brilliant finish
Foster - 8* Worked tirelessly and could have had more goals

Delacroix - 5 Pity he was the only Defender available.

Team Effort 9

Rowls · Post by **Rowls** » Sat Dec 30, 2023 7:35 pm

BurnleyFC wrote: ↑
Sat Dec 30, 2023 7:05 pm
You thought Ramsey was better than Brownhill?

Come on, Rowls.

Yes. I thought that.

Come on, BurnleyFC post your own opinions. Be happy to different as long as you're being honest. Have the courage of your own convictions.

BurnleyFC · Post by **BurnleyFC** » Sat Dec 30, 2023 7:40 pm

Rowls wrote: ↑
Sat Dec 30, 2023 7:35 pm
Yes. I thought that.

Come on, BurnleyFC post your own opinions. Be happy to different as long as you're being honest. Have the courage of your own convictions.

I have posted my own opinions - Ramsey was abysmal. That’s an unforgivable mistake today and it’s not the first time his messing about has cost us.

I genuinely thought it was a typo from you but if you genuinely think he was better than Brownhill, who was one of our better players today, then I give up.

Buxtonclaret · Post by **Buxtonclaret** » Sat Dec 30, 2023 7:42 pm

Trafford 8
Vitinho 7
O’Shea 7
Beyer .. ? 6
Taylor 7
JBG 7
Brownhill 8
Berge 6
Odobert 6
Amdouni 7
Foster 9 **** Excellent game.

Delcroix 6
Ramsey 5

We played really well. Imagine most neutrals watching would say we deserved a point.
Undone by an incompetent display by the Ref
Shockingly bad decision to award that pen. Just shocking.

Rowls · Post by **Rowls** » Sat Dec 30, 2023 7:42 pm

BurnleyFC wrote: ↑
Sat Dec 30, 2023 7:40 pm
I have posted my own opinions - Ramsey was abysmal. That’s an unforgivable mistake today and it’s not the first time his messing about has cost us.

I genuinely thought it was a typo from you but if you genuinely think he was better than Brownhill, who was one of our better players today, then I give up.

It wasn't a penalty.

Bosscat · Post by **Bosscat** » Sat Dec 30, 2023 7:44 pm

Trafford 8

Vitinho 5
Beyer NA
O’Shea 6
Taylor 6

JBG 6
Brownhill 7
Berge 6
Odobert 6

Amdouni 7
Foster 9 MotM *

Delcroix 6
Ramsey 5

BurnleyFC · Post by **BurnleyFC** » Sat Dec 30, 2023 7:44 pm

Rowls wrote: ↑
Sat Dec 30, 2023 7:42 pm
It wasn't a penalty.

He shouldn’t have given the referee a decision to make in the first place, but if that was on us, I’d want a penalty for it.

burnleymik · Post by **burnleymik** » Sat Dec 30, 2023 7:48 pm

Trafford - 8 Growing on me every week. Did well again today. Some great stops and he is starting to move the ball quicker.
Vitinho - 5 he has to stop the silly lunges. Covered really well a couple of times including right at the end.
O'Shea - 6 big mistake allowing Watkins to runs across him unchallenged. Just has too many arrows in him for this level.
Beyer N/A
Taylor - 5 struggled with his man but kept at the task and started to impress himself on him and then the sending off happened.
Odobert - 5 we can afford a winger who doesn't work hard in tracking back. Going forward he is great, but today he struggled a bit.
Berge - 4 what was he doing? He didn't even look bothered. He was poor all game, never got into it.
Brownhill - 8 he was very very good today. Broke up tons of play and even created himself a decent chance.
Jbg - 6 really sloppy with the ball too often, but did work hard off the ball.
Amdouni - 7 always looks out most likely goal threat, but doesn't offer enough support ok the midfield.
Foster - 9 absolutely outstanding. Battles for every ball. Wanted every ball. Chased everything down and created numerous chances for himself and others. Brilliant.

Delacroix - 5 just don't think he is Upto this level. Deer in the headlights.

Goliath · Post by **Goliath** » Sat Dec 30, 2023 7:49 pm

Rowls wrote: ↑
Sat Dec 30, 2023 7:42 pm
It wasn't a penalty.

When it comes to Ramseys part of it. Whether its a penalty or not is irrelevant. He took a really unecessary touch under pressure, wasnt aware of his surroundings and thrn kicked the player. Whether its a penalty or not is up for debate but it doesnt change the fact that its a woeful and naive piece of play from a player that has previous for doing that kind of thing.

Im starting to wonder whether Ramsey is as talented as i originally thought. Good midfield players dont get caught in possession all the time and usually have really good awareness and touch. He doesnt really seem to have any of those attributes.

CoolClaret · Post by **CoolClaret** » Sat Dec 30, 2023 7:50 pm

Rowls wrote: ↑
Sat Dec 30, 2023 7:42 pm
It wasn't a penalty.

Doesn’t matter if it was or it wasn’t.

Trying to be fancy and taking a (heavy) touch in the box at 2-2 in the 90th minute, on the road against a top team, whilst playing with 10 men when we’re absolutely desperate for points is brain dead stupid.

Leisure · Post by **Leisure** » Sat Dec 30, 2023 8:02 pm

roperclaret wrote: ↑
Sat Dec 30, 2023 6:14 pm
Not getting the 4’s for Delcroix. Certainly not that bad in my opinion.

Not sure just what he supposedly did wrong?

RVclaret · Post by **RVclaret** » Sat Dec 30, 2023 8:11 pm

Leisure wrote: ↑
Sat Dec 30, 2023 8:02 pm
Not sure just what he supposedly did wrong?

Me neither, thought he did fine considering the circumstances (up against the quickest front 2 in the league, first game at cb for months, sub for our main defender half way through a game). He’s actually pretty decent on the ball too, I find his passing quite crisp and purposeful.

CoolClaret · Post by **CoolClaret** » Sat Dec 30, 2023 8:12 pm

RVclaret wrote: ↑
Sat Dec 30, 2023 8:11 pm
Me neither, thought he did fine considering the circumstances (up against the quickest front 2 in the league, first game at cb for months, sub for our main defender half way through a game). He’s actually pretty decent on the ball too, I find his passing quite crisp and purposeful.

Agreed - nice to have a natural left footer in there as well

Bordeauxclaret · Post by **Bordeauxclaret** » Sat Dec 30, 2023 9:05 pm

Trafford 8
Vitinho 6
O’Shea 7
Beyer n/a
Taylor 5
JBG 5
Brownhill 7
Berge 6
Odobert 6
Amdouni 7
Foster 9*

Delcroix 6
Ramsey 4

Dodobdobodobo · Post by **Dodobdobodobo** » Sat Dec 30, 2023 9:23 pm

Trafford 8
Vitinho 6
Taylor 5
O’Shea 7
Berge 4
Brownhill 7
Gudmundsson 6
Odobert 6
Amdouni 7
Foster 9

Delcroix 4
Ramsey 4

Vim Fuego · Post by **Vim Fuego** » Sat Dec 30, 2023 9:24 pm

Trafford 6
Vitinho 5
O’Shea 5
Beyer 5
Taylor 5
JBG 6
Brownhill 7
Berge 4
Odobert 6
Amdouni 7
Foster 9

Delcroix 6
Ramsey 4