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Re: January wishlist

Post by Darnhill Claret » Tue Jan 02, 2024 1:52 pm

123EasyasBFC, just beat me to it.

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Re: January wishlist

Post by Superjohnnyfrancis » Tue Jan 02, 2024 1:55 pm

We have probably missed the boat on tough tackling centre mids given our position but we still need one. Any news of the Marseille link?

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Re: January wishlist

Post by Goliath » Tue Jan 02, 2024 1:55 pm

jrgbfc wrote:
Tue Jan 02, 2024 1:38 pm
I'd be surprised if we could get Wharton tbh. He's being linked with the big boys.
I think it might be a bit soon for the big boys to come in, theyll probably wait until summer. So it might be an opportunity for us if we went big on him, I imagine Berge would leave in Summer if we went down as well so we'd already have his replacement through the door.

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Re: January wishlist

Post by Darnhill Claret » Tue Jan 02, 2024 1:56 pm

Will Massengo get a run out against Spurs?

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Re: January wishlist

Post by 123EasyasBFC » Tue Jan 02, 2024 2:09 pm

Don’t know about incomings but could definitely see potential in the below players leaving either on loan or perm this window

Muric
Egan Riley
Roberts
Ekdal
Massengo
Cork
Benson
Zaroury
Churlinov
Obafemi

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Re: January wishlist

Post by Darnhill Claret » Tue Jan 02, 2024 2:14 pm

We'll never win the FA Cup this season if we get rid of too many from that list.
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Re: January wishlist

Post by DAVETHEVICAR » Tue Jan 02, 2024 2:18 pm

Do you think we can beat Spurs ?

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Re: January wishlist

Post by vinrogue » Tue Jan 02, 2024 2:18 pm

January wishlist, 3 league games with VAR in our favour and 9 points that would be my starter for 9 !

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Re: January wishlist

Post by CoolClaret » Tue Jan 02, 2024 3:18 pm

NewClaret wrote:
Tue Jan 02, 2024 9:39 am
My info is we tried hard all summer, that he wanted to have a pre-season under Poch initially then couldn’t be persuaded after the season started when he was on the bench. Looks like Chelsea want to sell him again now.

I don’t think it’s so much as we couldn’t get it done as he didn’t want to come. Fair enough, but we needed to move on in summer so I’m hoping we’ve identified other LB targets. As you said previously, Charlie (who I love) is OOC in summer :(
Yeah - not denying we didn’t try on this one! Just saying it’s a shame (for whatever reason) that he didn’t end up a Burnley player.

I’d hope that we give Chaz another 2 year deal and bring in a first choice left back, either this window or in the summer

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Re: January wishlist

Post by Superjohnnyfrancis » Tue Jan 02, 2024 7:14 pm

Knutsen with a big new broom

Centre mid

Striker

2 Centre backs

Left and right back

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Re: January wishlist

Post by Westleigh » Tue Jan 02, 2024 8:09 pm

Superjohnnyfrancis wrote:
Tue Jan 02, 2024 7:14 pm
Knutsen with a big new broom

Centre mid

Striker

2 Centre backs

Left and right back
Cresswell seems to be out of favour at West Ham ,how about a crafty loan?.

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Re: January wishlist

Post by Superjohnnyfrancis » Tue Jan 02, 2024 8:28 pm

Westleigh wrote:
Tue Jan 02, 2024 8:09 pm
Cresswell seems to be out of favour at West Ham ,how about a crafty loan?.
Not a bad shout, right back is more pressing though don’t rate either Vitinho or Roberts.

Would really like to see Ekdal get a league game and a Tarks type centre back. Must be one in world football.

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Re: January wishlist

Post by Cooclaret » Tue Jan 02, 2024 8:34 pm

Superjohnnyfrancis wrote:
Tue Jan 02, 2024 8:28 pm
Not a bad shout, right back is more pressing though don’t rate either Vitinho or Roberts.

Would really like to see Ekdal get a league game and a Tarks type centre back. Must be one in world football.
I got pelters all last year for saying Roberts was bobbins.

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Re: January wishlist

Post by oswyclaret » Tue Jan 02, 2024 8:34 pm

My wish,would be for this season to quickly come to an end!
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Re: January wishlist

Post by Superjohnnyfrancis » Tue Jan 02, 2024 9:05 pm

Cooclaret wrote:
Tue Jan 02, 2024 8:34 pm
I got pelters all last year for saying Roberts was bobbins.
We’ve had Trippier not so long ago so we know a good right back when we see one 👍

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Re: January wishlist

Post by Westleigh » Tue Jan 02, 2024 9:09 pm

Superjohnnyfrancis wrote:
Tue Jan 02, 2024 8:28 pm
Not a bad shout, right back is more pressing though don’t rate either Vitinho or Roberts.

Would really like to see Ekdal get a league game and a Tarks type centre back. Must be one in world football.
Would give us an option of Taylor playing centrehalf in an emergency.

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Re: January wishlist

Post by Westleigh » Tue Jan 02, 2024 9:10 pm

Cresswell just warming up to come on for West Ham.

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Re: January wishlist

Post by Superjohnnyfrancis » Tue Jan 02, 2024 9:12 pm

Westleigh wrote:
Tue Jan 02, 2024 9:09 pm
Would give us an option of Taylor playing centrehalf in an emergency.
Will be interesting to see if AFCON throws up any decent centre backs, there must be some better than what we have.

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Re: January wishlist

Post by Quickenthetempo » Tue Jan 02, 2024 9:19 pm

DAVETHEVICAR wrote:
Tue Jan 02, 2024 2:18 pm
Do you think we can beat Spurs ?
Why not?

No Son or Kane from recent defeats to them. No extreme pace and they have big injury problems.

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Re: January wishlist

Post by Goliath » Wed Jan 03, 2024 2:01 am

Ben Johnson right back at West Ham leaving on a free in the Summer. Would be an immediate upgrade on what we have currently

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Re: January wishlist

Post by Vegas Claret » Wed Jan 03, 2024 4:28 am

DAVETHEVICAR wrote:
Tue Jan 02, 2024 2:18 pm
Do you think we can beat Spurs ?
with a stick ? :D

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Re: January wishlist

Post by Vegas Claret » Wed Jan 03, 2024 4:30 am

CoolClaret wrote:
Tue Jan 02, 2024 3:18 pm
Yeah - not denying we didn’t try on this one! Just saying it’s a shame (for whatever reason) that he didn’t end up a Burnley player.

I’d hope that we give Chaz another 2 year deal and bring in a first choice left back, either this window or in the summer
Taylor will probably want a bigger contract than we would want to give him at his age (I might be completely wrong though!)

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Re: January wishlist

Post by Vegas Claret » Wed Jan 03, 2024 4:32 am

Doubtful we could get him but I wonder if we will try and get Sergio Gomez out of City on loan, left back, never seemingly plays for them

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Re: January wishlist

Post by summitclaret » Wed Jan 03, 2024 10:46 am

Vegas Claret wrote:
Wed Jan 03, 2024 4:32 am
Doubtful we could get him but I wonder if we will try and get Sergio Gomez out of City on loan, left back, never seemingly plays for them
He's another winger in disguise and a midget, so it's defo a possibility.

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Re: January wishlist

Post by Bullabill » Wed Jan 03, 2024 11:01 am

summitclaret wrote:
Mon Jan 01, 2024 6:50 pm
We are missing THB's passing massively.
I'm so sorry, I didn't know he'd died.
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Re: January wishlist

Post by Goliath » Wed Jan 03, 2024 11:14 am

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.belfa ... 5427.amp

Not seen it mentioned but we were linked to Trai Hume the Sunderland right back in December.

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Re: January wishlist

Post by Anthonini » Wed Jan 03, 2024 11:54 am

summitclaret wrote:
Wed Jan 03, 2024 10:46 am
He's another winger in disguise and a midget, so it's defo a possibility.
We could use some technical ability in the back. Someone who can do an overlap and play a good ball in. Sergio Gómez is almost a playmaker in that aspect. We currently don't have a player like that in midfield nor in defence. And in our build up from the back players that can create danger out of nothing are crucial. Especially when you have guys like Odobert Koleosho Tresor Amdouni and Foster up front who can make those runs. We lack some spacial awareness and technique to reach them.

Another leftback I rate very highly is Maxim De Cuyper from Club Bruges. He played a great season for Westerlo together with Lyle Foster. Now he's doing well for Bruges and he's not called up yet for the national team. His great vision and crossing makes him score goals and deliver a bunch of assists. Comparable to a light version of Alexander Arnold. Seems like he's not out of our league if we act now before bigger teams become interested.

Tresor and Odobert would do well with and upcoming back that can actually play football. So far it's been quite poor with Vitinho and Taylor being incapable to play a decent ball in unless a lucky shot like the assist for Jay Rod by Charlie. The rest of them end up in the stands or in the opponent's feet.

When Foster Obafemi and Jay Rod are available I wouldn't spend money on another striker. A replacement for Berge and Brownhill however should be a higher priority as Cullen has proven to come short at this level. If Berge gets injured that will be a big problem.

A good offensive left back would make us so much more dangerous. Vitinho is a hard working lad who will keep improving and Roberts a good sub. Centrally we have good players with Ekdal Al Dakhil and Delcroix and Taylor as substitutions.
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Re: January wishlist

Post by Anthonini » Wed Jan 03, 2024 12:04 pm

Has this been posted?

https://www.google.com/amp/s/soccernet. ... e.html/amp

Rumour about Paul Onuachu the tall striker that played together with Tresor at Genk. Would be a good weapon to have for us. He's huge and incredibly strong and fast enough to be dangerous on the counter as well. Technically decent too. A weapon at set pieces and great target for our wingers to feed. Measuring 2.01m. would be a good loan option for in case something happens to Foster again. I hate to start a game with Jay who's just not good or fast enough and lacks technical ability to trouble premier league defenders.

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Re: January wishlist

Post by Murger » Wed Jan 03, 2024 12:12 pm

Absolutely zero chance we do any business with Southampton.

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Re: January wishlist

Post by Jakubs Tash » Wed Jan 03, 2024 12:25 pm

I would rather we upgraded right back than got a new left back this window. Taylor is a very solid option at this level and can do a decent job for the second half of the season. A new right back would improve our side massively.

However, we probably need a back up left back or need to start succession planning at left back as Taylor is the only one we have and everything seems to point towards him leaving for free in the summer.

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Re: January wishlist

Post by Belgianclaret » Wed Jan 03, 2024 12:43 pm

Phil Jones - man mountain and free agent...

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Re: January wishlist

Post by Woodleyclaret » Wed Jan 03, 2024 1:14 pm

Ross Barkley seems to have conquered his issues and on a short deal at Luton.

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Re: January wishlist

Post by Spijed » Wed Jan 03, 2024 1:19 pm

Belgianclaret wrote:
Wed Jan 03, 2024 12:43 pm
Phil Jones - man mountain and free agent...
But for injuries he looked like he'd become one of England's best centre halves in recent years.

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Re: January wishlist

Post by ecc » Wed Jan 03, 2024 1:26 pm

AFCON will impact the window.

One name mentioned above is Nemanja Matic. He's had a pretty good season in a Rennes team that's struggling to match the performances of recent seasons. He'd be dreadfully slow but he knows how to play in front of defence and link the latter with midfield.

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Re: January wishlist

Post by Pickles » Wed Jan 03, 2024 2:10 pm

Anthonini wrote:
Wed Jan 03, 2024 12:04 pm
Has this been posted?

https://www.google.com/amp/s/soccernet. ... e.html/amp

Rumour about Paul Onuachu the tall striker that played together with Tresor at Genk. Would be a good weapon to have for us. He's huge and incredibly strong and fast enough to be dangerous on the counter as well. Technically decent too. A weapon at set pieces and great target for our wingers to feed. Measuring 2.01m. would be a good loan option for in case something happens to Foster again. I hate to start a game with Jay who's just not good or fast enough and lacks technical ability to trouble premier league defenders.
This season's been bad enough; watching Brownhill hit the first man with a corner when there's a 6ft10 bloke in the box could tip me over the edge.
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Re: January wishlist

Post by Anthonini » Wed Jan 03, 2024 2:46 pm

Pickles wrote:
Wed Jan 03, 2024 2:10 pm
This season's been bad enough; watching Brownhill hit the first man with a corner when there's a 6ft10 bloke in the box could tip me over the edge.
😂 Let Tresor take them please.
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Re: January wishlist

Post by Anthonini » Wed Jan 03, 2024 2:53 pm

What about this lad?

https://youtu.be/FCikgHMqExA?si=qnvn3kuFKc3Nritk

Bradley Locko 21 yr old Frenchman. Seems athletic and fast. Good feet. Aggressive. The step up from Ligue 1 seems less hard than from the Championship or the Belgian Jupiler Pro League which is a difficult one.

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Re: January wishlist

Post by Cooclaret » Wed Jan 03, 2024 3:50 pm

Belgianclaret wrote:
Wed Jan 03, 2024 12:43 pm
Phil Jones - man mountain and free agent...
I’d take him in a heartbeat

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Re: January wishlist

Post by Big Vinny K » Wed Jan 03, 2024 4:02 pm

Cooclaret wrote:
Wed Jan 03, 2024 3:50 pm
I’d take him in a heartbeat
To do what ?
When was the last time he kicked a ball ?

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Re: January wishlist

Post by Cooclaret » Wed Jan 03, 2024 4:11 pm

Big Vinny K wrote:
Wed Jan 03, 2024 4:02 pm
To do what ?
When was the last time he kicked a ball ?
To defend. I’d imagine this morning, he’s a coach at Manchester United.

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Re: January wishlist

Post by Westleigh » Wed Jan 03, 2024 4:22 pm

Cooclaret wrote:
Wed Jan 03, 2024 3:50 pm
I’d take him in a heartbeat
Oh my goodness he’s an accident waiting to happen,plus every time we’d lose the Horse Botherers would be bleating about agent Jones,no thankyou.

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Re: January wishlist

Post by Big Vinny K » Wed Jan 03, 2024 4:58 pm

Cooclaret wrote:
Wed Jan 03, 2024 4:11 pm
To defend. I’d imagine this morning, he’s a coach at Manchester United.
Andy Farrell is a coach - shall we sign him too as I’m sure he’ll have kicked a ball this morning

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Re: January wishlist

Post by Cooclaret » Wed Jan 03, 2024 5:06 pm

Big Vinny K wrote:
Wed Jan 03, 2024 4:58 pm
Andy Farrell is a coach - shall we sign him too as I’m sure he’ll have kicked a ball this morning
Don’t think those two are comparable.

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Re: January wishlist

Post by Big Vinny K » Wed Jan 03, 2024 5:31 pm

Cooclaret wrote:
Wed Jan 03, 2024 5:06 pm
Don’t think those two are comparable.
You started it !

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Re: January wishlist

Post by lucs86 » Wed Jan 03, 2024 5:46 pm

I'd try and get Elneny on loan off Arsenal, always rated him, hardly used by Arteta, OOC in summer so could do with a few months in the shop window. Just gone AFCON though.

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Re: January wishlist

Post by boyyanno » Wed Jan 03, 2024 6:41 pm

Anthonini wrote:
Wed Jan 03, 2024 11:54 am
We could use some technical ability in the back. Someone who can do an overlap and play a good ball in. Sergio Gómez is almost a playmaker in that aspect. We currently don't have a player like that in midfield nor in defence. And in our build up from the back players that can create danger out of nothing are crucial. Especially when you have guys like Odobert Koleosho Tresor Amdouni and Foster up front who can make those runs. We lack some spacial awareness and technique to reach them.

Another leftback I rate very highly is Maxim De Cuyper from Club Bruges. He played a great season for Westerlo together with Lyle Foster. Now he's doing well for Bruges and he's not called up yet for the national team. His great vision and crossing makes him score goals and deliver a bunch of assists. Comparable to a light version of Alexander Arnold. Seems like he's not out of our league if we act now before bigger teams become interested.

Tresor and Odobert would do well with and upcoming back that can actually play football. So far it's been quite poor with Vitinho and Taylor being incapable to play a decent ball in unless a lucky shot like the assist for Jay Rod by Charlie. The rest of them end up in the stands or in the opponent's feet.

When Foster Obafemi and Jay Rod are available I wouldn't spend money on another striker. A replacement for Berge and Brownhill however should be a higher priority as Cullen has proven to come short at this level. If Berge gets injured that will be a big problem.

A good offensive left back would make us so much more dangerous. Vitinho is a hard working lad who will keep improving and Roberts a good sub. Centrally we have good players with Ekdal Al Dakhil and Delcroix and Taylor as substitutions.
I think Sergio Gomez would be fantastic for us if we could get him on loan but it's unlikely.

We need the following to really kick on in my opinion:

RB - Roberts to leave and a new RB in
CB - Experienced/Solid centre half to pair up and help bring on the likes of Beyer/O'Shea.
LB - New left back required, Taylor to back up LB and CH and Delcroix to make an exit.
CM - Specialised CM who can partner Berge. Brownhill to stay and support the squad.
ST - New ST to replace Rodriguez.

I think that represents another spend of at least 50m+ but I actually think we could take a massive shift forward as a team if we got those positions right.
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Re: January wishlist

Post by RVclaret » Wed Jan 03, 2024 6:47 pm

Anthonini wrote:
Wed Jan 03, 2024 11:54 am
Another leftback I rate very highly is Maxim De Cuyper from Club Bruges. He played a great season for Westerlo together with Lyle Foster. Now he's doing well for Bruges and he's not called up yet for the national team. His great vision and crossing makes him score goals and deliver a bunch of assists. Comparable to a light version of Alexander Arnold. Seems like he's not out of our league if we act now before bigger teams become interested.

Tresor and Odobert would do well with and upcoming back that can actually play football. So far it's been quite poor with Vitinho and Taylor being incapable to play a decent ball in unless a lucky shot like the assist for Jay Rod by Charlie. The rest of them end up in the stands or in the opponent's feet.

A good offensive left back would make us so much more dangerous. Vitinho is a hard working lad who will keep improving and Roberts a good sub. Centrally we have good players with Ekdal Al Dakhil and Delcroix and Taylor as substitutions.
Completely agree with your assessment on our full backs lacking the necessary ball playing ability / skill to progress our play and create. I find Vitinho very frustrating with his non-existent end product. Taylor has been okay but again very limited in that sense and his one footed-ness is a hindrance when playing out.

I’m also hoping De Cuyper is a target, looks an excellent talent, probably be talking over £10m though.
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Re: January wishlist

Post by CoolClaret » Wed Jan 03, 2024 6:53 pm

Yeah think fullbacks should be the primary focus now (well, I thought they were in summer in all honesty )

I still have faith in Vitinho improving and absolutely want him in the squad. That versatility he offers can't be understated - perfect for the bench.

De Cuyper looks interesting... I'd definitely like a player in that mould anyway -

I'm still keen on the idea of moving Beyer to right back and having O'Shea & Ekdal or another centre half in there - I think Beyer would be suited for a fullback role that can sit in a three if needed, perhaps not the type to bomb up and down the wing but I think he'd be good in there.
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Re: January wishlist

Post by RVclaret » Wed Jan 03, 2024 6:57 pm

CoolClaret wrote:
Wed Jan 03, 2024 6:53 pm
Yeah think fullbacks should be the primary focus now (well, I thought they were in summer in all honesty )

I still have faith in Vitinho improving and absolutely want him in the squad. That versatility he offers can't be understated - perfect for the bench.

De Cuyper looks interesting... I'd definitely like a player in that mould anyway -

I'm still keen on the idea of moving Beyer to right back and having O'Shea & Ekdal or another centre half in there - I think Beyer would be suited for a fullback role that can sit in a three if needed, perhaps not the type to bomb up and down the wing but I think he'd be good in there.
Agree on Beyer. Gets more physicality / height into the team at cb, can still utilise his dribbling ability and is a better defender than some of the others there. Only problem is he’s now injured as is Ekdal!

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Re: January wishlist

Post by Anthonini » Wed Jan 03, 2024 7:09 pm

boyyanno wrote:
Wed Jan 03, 2024 6:41 pm
I think Sergio Gomez would be fantastic for us if we could get him on loan but it's unlikely.

We need the following to really kick on in my opinion:

RB - Roberts to leave and a new RB in
CB - Experienced/Solid centre half to pair up and help bring on the likes of Beyer/O'Shea.
LB - New left back required, Taylor to back up LB and CH and Delcroix to make an exit.
CM - Specialised CM who can partner Berge. Brownhill to stay and support the squad.
ST - New ST to replace Rodriguez.

I think that represents another spend of at least 50m+ but I actually think we could take a massive shift forward as a team if we got those positions right.
True though I do appreciate Vitinho's work ethic and he seems to have the engine to keep going. Offensively he's also progressing though his crosses still are far away from what it should be. Do like how he overlaps and participates in play.

Delcroix is better than what we've seen so far. He's still feeling the pressure of playing at a world stage against actual top players. You can see he's struggling a bit. When he played at Anderlecht he's been man of the match alot of times and he is usually very comfortable on the ball. Still hope he can step it up a notch and forget about the stress. Just play his game.

I do agree if you just know him since his Burnley move he's been very poor. I feel for the lad. Also think his knee injury is/was still bothering him. He looks slow which is unusual for him.

But in all fairness Beyer has also looked dodgy at times... Now Delcroix can get a few games to prove himself a useful member of the squad.

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