Benson to Southampton

[123EasyasBFC]

I mean, which player is the same animal in the PL than the Champ? Point is he still has quality and skills that the others don't - he's far more than a cut inside and bend it top bins btw - put in some great crosses last year.

Not to mention, I'm pretty certain VK was saying he has 'PL quality' - though VK is slowly turning into a manager that comes out with tired old clichés

Players aren’t the same and he had quality in the championship which clearly the management team don’t think is or will be affective in the premier league, what’s why he’s not been utilised, the lack of work rate tracking back was there to be seen last season and that’s the main reason I personally think benson isn’t being used. I think the match day squad in the cup Friday night will tell us all we need to know

[RVclaret]

That’s fine though, just use him as an impact sub then? We are regularly chasing games to either draw a game or to find a winner.

There are only three players in our squad that scored more than ten goals last season and we are letting one of them go.

I just can’t get over the fact we are persisting with players like Ramsay, Larsen, Tresor etc… who have by and large been poor at best.

You may disagree but I think questions have to start being asked of Vk and his team if he leaves. Even right now he would be starting every game for me if fit on the right wing. As no one this season has looked remotely decent on that wing

Benson simply would not suit the current 4-4-2 we are using. It needs disciplined wide players who can offer defensive qualities. JBG plays because of this but also as he tucks inside and plays narrow. Benson is a touchline hugging winger and we aren’t really playing with those this season.

[CoolClaret]

That’s fine though, just use him as an impact sub then? We are regularly chasing games to either draw a game or to find a winner.

There are only three players in our squad that scored more than ten goals last season and we are letting one of them go.

I just can’t get over the fact we are persisting with players like Ramsay, Larsen, Tresor etc… who have by and large been poor at best.

You may disagree but I think questions have to start being asked of Vk and his team if he leaves. Even right now he would be starting every game for me if fit on the right wing. As no one this season has looked remotely decent on that wing

17 goals missing from Tella and the 11 from Benson from the right...

Not expecting to have players that are that prolific in the PL, but it doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure out why we may be struggling does it?...

[CoolClaret]

Players aren’t the same and he had quality in the championship which clearly the management team don’t think is or will be affective in the premier league, what’s why he’s not been utilised, the lack of work rate tracking back was there to be seen last season and that’s the main reason I personally think benson isn’t being used. I think the match day squad in the cup Friday night will tell us all we need to know

No worse at tracking back than Odobert or Trésor has been - just seems like lazy circular reasoning this like spt said.

Again, down a goal with 20 minutes left I wouldn't want any other player in our squad coming on to try and win a point.

[123EasyasBFC]

No worse at tracking back than Odobert or Trésor has been - just seems like lazy circular reasoning this like spt said.

Again, down a goal with 20 minutes left I wouldn't want any other player in our squad coming on to try and win a point.

Merely stating what the management team could be thinking, not once said I think Odobert or Tresor track back well but there’s obviously a reason behind why he’s not featured since being back fit

[CoolClaret]

Merely stating what the management team could be thinking, not once said I think Odobert or Tresor track back well but there’s obviously a reason behind why he’s not featured since being back fit

That's fine, I don't necessarily think they're thinking anything but £££ signs in all honesty.

[claretgimmer]

So it looks like the days of players gaining cult status amongst the fans ie. Blake, Mee, Barnes et al are well and truly over, sorry but that just doesn`t feel right, I as a fan feel that having players in the team who are longer term feel the same as fans do when it`s not going well are important to the team, these journeymen who have no affinity to the club will just think that if we fail and get relegated I will jump ship for a better option. It doesn`t bode well for the future. IMO

[Newcastleclaret93]

Benson simply would not suit the current 4-4-2 we are using. It needs disciplined wide players who can offer defensive qualities. JBG plays because of this but also as he tucks inside and plays narrow. Benson is a touchline hugging winger and we aren’t really playing with those this season.

Ok that’s fine use him as an impact sub, I can’t literally think of anyone else in our squad that would impact a game of the bench.

I literally can’t believe so many Burnley fans are happy with this. We are one of the worst sides in prem history and one of our best players in last years side is leaving and no one cares.

Burnley must have the best PR team in the league

[RVclaret]

That's fine, I don't necessarily think they're thinking anything but £££ signs in all honesty.

How? He’s been linked with a loan?

[agreenwood]

That’s fine though, just use him as an impact sub then? We are regularly chasing games to either draw a game or to find a winner.

There are only three players in our squad that scored more than ten goals last season and we are letting one of them go.

I just can’t get over the fact we are persisting with players like Ramsay, Larsen, Tresor etc… who have by and large been poor at best.

You may disagree but I think questions have to start being asked of Vk and his team if he leaves. Even right now he would be starting every game for me if fit on the right wing. As no one this season has looked remotely decent on that wing

It’s about game states for me. Even if we’re behind in games there are very few teams who sit back and let us have the ball at this level, even when we’re at home. It’s usually about working hard out of possession and trying to muster quick attacks on the turnover. My opinion is that it’s not Benson’s game.

The best example in my view was the Boro home game last season. Benson started that game and Boro began by playing a mid block and high-ish line. The maintained it for about an hour to great success and Benson wasn’t effective. Then they inexplicably abandoned it and dropped deep - cue the Benson show.

Until we’re playing with far more quality than we have now, I just don’t see us making the most of Benson’s strengths.

[CoolClaret]

Ok that’s fine use him as an impact sub, I can’t literally think of anyone else in our squad that would impact a game of the bench.

I literally can’t believe so many Burnley fans are happy with this. We are one of the worst sides in prem history and one of our best players in last years side is leaving and no one cares.

Burnley must have the best PR team in the league

I think a lot do care though - just more don't like voicing an opinion in opposition to the line that the club trots out just incase they're deemed "less of a supporter"

[CoolClaret]

How? He’s been linked with a loan?

Still pay loan fee's and wage contributions, no?

[Newcastleclaret93]

It’s about game states for me. Even if we’re behind in games there are very few teams who sit back and let us have the ball at this level, even when we’re at home. It’s usually about working hard out of possession and trying to muster quick attacks on the turnover. My opinion is that it’s not Benson’s game.

The best example in my view was the Boro home game last season. Benson started that game and Boro began by playing a mid block and high-ish line. The maintained it for about an hour to great success and Benson wasn’t effective. Then they inexplicably abandoned it and dropped deep - cue the Benson show.

Until we’re playing with far more quality than we have now, I just don’t see us making the most of Benson’s strengths.

I agree with that to some extent, especially against top ten teams. But against the worse teams I think a lot of them have set back and there the games we need to be winning in this half of the season.

I look at the upcoming Luton game, can you honestly tell me you would prefer Larsen over Benson in that game

[123EasyasBFC]

That's fine, I don't necessarily think they're thinking anything but £££ signs in all honesty.

It could well be just agent talk because benson wants to play but in the last 10 games he’s only been back fit since he made the bench against Everton, the games we have played have been better suited to the wingers that have played, I’d be amazed if he doesn’t get a do against spurs in the cup

[agreenwood]

Ok that’s fine use him as an impact sub, I can’t literally think of anyone else in our squad that would impact a game of the bench.

I literally can’t believe so many Burnley fans are happy with this. We are one of the worst sides in prem history and one of our best players in last years side is leaving and no one cares.

Burnley must have the best PR team in the league

Stop overacting. Who doesn’t care? You’re mistaking understanding why it might happen with not caring. I’m sure lots of fans, like myself, think Benny is a little magician and would love nothing more than to see him begin replicating a few of last years showings in the PL for us.

Can we also save the “one of the worst sides in PL history” for a few more months?

[123EasyasBFC]

I agree with that to some extent, especially against top ten teams. But against the worse teams I think a lot of them have set back and there the games we need to be winning in this half of the season.

I look at the upcoming Luton game, can you honestly tell me you would prefer Larsen over Benson in that game

Larsen who scored one of those game changing moments you mention benson doing against Luton away. Larsen has huge ability and it’s clear he will need 12 months to get to grips with pace of English football

[Newcastleclaret93]

Larsen who scored one of those game changing moments you mention benson doing against Luton away. Larsen has huge ability and it’s clear he will need 12 months to get to grips with pace of English football

Larsen has by and large been very poor at this level (not to take anything away from that goal).

Benson is a better player than him and I reckon if you asked fans who would they rather have starting I suspect a vast majority would say Benson

[123EasyasBFC]

Larsen has by and large been very poor at this level (not to take anything away from that goal).

Benson is a better player than him and I reckon if you asked fans who would they rather have starting I suspect a vast majority would say Benson

I think the opposite, every time Larsen came on before Luton game he looked good, then had the Luton moment and didn’t play for a while, was very good against sheff united (yes they where poor) wolves game was to close to play, then he was one of the better players against Everton, kompany clear thinks Larsen works harder

[RVclaret]

Still pay loan fee's and wage contributions, no?

Will be minimal won’t it?

A more logical thought process is surely

- Benson wants regular first team football
- we have a squad that’s maxed out at 25
- if we want to sign anyone (quite a few on this board have a list of around 2-5 positions) we need to ‘remove’ a few from the squad

[CoolClaret]

Will be minimal won’t it?

A more logical thought process is surely

- Benson wants regular first team football
- we have a squad that’s maxed out at 25
- if we want to sign anyone (quite a few on this board have a list of around 2-5 positions) we need to ‘remove’ a few from the squad

No not necessarily minimal at all.

A counter to that would be,

We only have a couple that can put the ball in the net, we don’t have many that can play off the right effectively and offer a threat.

May as well keep him and bring him off the bench..

[IanMcL]

Did he actually say that?
I do remember VK saying that Benson had his doubters in Belgium.

Yes. He was walking away from a gathering of folk (board maybe) and said just that.

[GetIntoEm]

It's all a bit rose tinted isn't it. Of course he was great for us last season, he's had a bit of time ob the treatment bench but he's been fit for a couple of months now and can't get near the bench even.

Maybe he's not training well? Maybe he's not a positive fit in the dressing room?

People saying he's our best player and off it, there's at least 3 players in his position you'd pick first based on ability alone.

Hopefully goes on loan and comes back a better player

[pureclaret]

Not to mention the fact we’ll probably be competing with Southampton next season as direct rivals!

WTAF x2

Only if they get promoted

[BurnleyFC]

I think the opposite, every time Larsen came on before Luton game he looked good, then had the Luton moment and didn’t play for a while, was very good against sheff united (yes they where poor) wolves game was to close to play, then he was one of the better players against Everton, kompany clear thinks Larsen works harder

Bruun Larsen played well against Sheffield United but was appalling against Everton - his crossing was comical. He was dreadful against Fulham too and rightly got hooked not to be seen since.

I’d have Benson in over him all day long.

[Newcastleclaret93]

It's all a bit rose tinted isn't it. Of course he was great for us last season, he's had a bit of time ob the treatment bench but he's been fit for a couple of months now and can't get near the bench even.

Maybe he's not training well? Maybe he's not a positive fit in the dressing room?

People saying he's our best player and off it, there's at least 3 players in his position you'd pick first based on ability alone.

Hopefully goes on loan and comes back a better player

There is literally not one player I would have ahead of him.

All our current right wingers are poor

[Ampth7]

It could well be just agent talk because benson wants to play but in the last 10 games he’s only been back fit since he made the bench against Everton, the games we have played have been better suited to the wingers that have played, I’d be amazed if he doesn’t get a do against spurs in the cup

Reports now suggesting a deal has been agreed for him to go on loan to Hull for the rest of the season. If true, he won’t be playing against Spurs.

[Ampth7]

There is literally not one player I would have ahead of him.

All our current right wingers are poor

VK clearly doesn’t agree….

[Jakubs Tash]

Literally…..

[KRBFC]

Just from what I have seen. It’s the same why I was saying last season that Foster will be good in the prem (even though his championship was poor).

Benson has all the attributes to be successful in the prem. like I said the negative side of me thinks the likes of Koleosho and Odobert are playing because we can get a better return on them.

Well they’re playing because of injuries to the likes of Benson…

[Lip]

He skipped round Musselburgh today at odds or 9/2 for me.

[boatshed bill]

Reports now suggesting a deal has been agreed for him to go on loan to Hull for the rest of the season. If true, he won’t be playing against Spurs.

If true I doubt he'll play for Burnley again.

[Taffy on the wing]

There is literally not one player I would have ahead of him.

All our current right wingers are poor

Always on the wind-up........Sad!

[Ampth7]

If true I doubt he'll play for Burnley again.

Agree.

[IAmAClaret]

The reality is that Benson appears to be 5th choice (either side, behind koleosho, JBL, JBG and tresor). I don't agree he should be 5th choice, but, in the eyes of the person who's opinion actually matters.....he is.

5th choice. 27 years old. Cost around £3m?

The way the club is now being ran, any profit on that £3m is exactly the plan.

[taio]

Doubt a loan deal will be agreed with Hull for Benson. Makes little sense without a obligation to buy at a decent fee.

[Vegas Claret]

Doubt a loan deal will be agreed with Hull for Benson. Makes little sense without a obligation to buy at a decent fee.

unless we are trying to make room in the squad for a 'better' loan ourselves

[Newcastleclaret93]

Well they’re playing because of injuries to the likes of Benson…

Has he even been injured? Do we genuinely know this for a fact?

[Kilson810]

Well they’re playing because of injuries to the likes of Benson…

I thought the same, but why would he be going out on loan if he wasn't fit?

[taio]

unless we are trying to make room in the squad for a 'better' loan ourselves

Would be better options to achieve that

[bumba]

Doubt a loan deal will be agreed with Hull for Benson. Makes little sense without a obligation to buy at a decent fee.

It does if we aren't going to use him for the next five months, this way he can put himself in the shop window to be sold at a profit in the summer.
I'd expect Churlinov and Zaroury to go too this window.

[GetIntoEm]

I thought the same, but why would he be going out on loan if he wasn't fit?

He's been fit for at least 2 months. Fact

[taio]

It does if we aren't going to use him for the next five months, this way he can put himself in the shop window to be sold at a profit in the summer.
I'd expect Churlinov and Zaroury to go too this window.

We'll see if a straightforward loan deal gets agreed with Hull. I would hope we'd use him over the next five months.

[Vegas Claret]

Would be better options to achieve that

such as ? I think Ali-D, Zaroury, Benson need to go out on loan for sure as they aren't getting a look in

[taio]

such as ? I think Ali-D, Zaroury, Benson need to go out on loan for sure as they aren't getting a look in

Churlinov

[Jakubclaret]

Doubt a loan deal will be agreed with Hull for Benson. Makes little sense without a obligation to buy at a decent fee.

Not if the club want him to return for the championship which in all likelihood that's where we'll be. It sounds like it's a short term arrangement to alleviate the wage burden.

[bumba]

We'll see if a straightforward loan deal gets agreed with Hull. I would hope we'd use him over the next five months.

I'd have him in before a few others that seem to get regular game time, he'd surely be a good option off the bench he's always good for a goal or changing a game.
It's a shame if he goes

[taio]

Not if the club want him to return for the championship which in all likelihood that's where we'll be. It sounds like it's a short term arrangement to alleviate the wage burden.

Where have you heard that about alleviating the wage burden?

[123EasyasBFC]

Has he even been injured? Do we genuinely know this for a fact?

He was definitely injured after Salford game, saw him at turf Chelsea home game with a protective boot on and a big cream moncler jacket on

[Carlos the Great]

Benson might not be great defensively but when he cuts in and scores from 25 yards time and time again I think we could possibly be ok without him defending too much ..

[123EasyasBFC]

Benson might not be great defensively but when he cuts in and scores from 25 yards time and time again I think we could possibly be ok without him defending too much ..

The best players in the world struggle to score from 25 yards out time and time again in the premier league, what makes you think benson would do it week in week out. What he did last season along with the rest of the team is unquestionable and the best I’ve seen and most fun as a Burnley fan but the premier league is a whole new level