mate, if we beat City 2-0 you'd complain it wasn't 3. It doesn't remotely upset me, as we discussed the other day, nowt sticks nor should it on here. It's just tedious. You crack on, i'm done.CoolClaret wrote: ↑Thu Jan 04, 2024 8:42 pmSorry that having an opinion that isn't "ALK are wonderful" and actually caring about Burnley Football Club in it's entirety upsets you.
If I think something isn't right then I'll express my displeasure - if I go too far then I expect the mods to issue me with a ban. I think I'm perfectly entitled to be a bit cheesed off with naff American NBA styled 'branding', am I not?
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That's just complete nonsense though isn't it? Not sure why you're trying to character assassinate me.Vegas Claret wrote: ↑Thu Jan 04, 2024 8:46 pmmate, if we beat City 2-0 you'd complain it wasn't 3. It doesn't remotely upset me, as we discussed the other day, nowt sticks nor should it on here. It's just tedious. You crack on, i'm done.
I post plenty of positives - started threads about it, posted positivity after the Liverpool loss at home.
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And how many badge changes have we had since then? But because the ‘Americans’ have followed suit with the rest of the Premier League clubs, it’s the end of life as we know it?CoolClaret wrote: ↑Thu Jan 04, 2024 8:47 pmI'd say more longing for time like the Monday night at Maine Road in 1960
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What badge should we have then that keeps our identity because the current one on the home shirt isn’t our original badgeCoolClaret wrote: ↑Thu Jan 04, 2024 8:39 pmI half think you're a troll so not sure if I can be bothered properly replying -
Identity and branding means something - especially to a football club that's been in the heart of the community for 140+ years and certainly wasn't created by businessmen.
Wait till it starts to creep up more and more - this is just a start, what's next?
What will the next one be 'It's fine we were due a badge change anyway' and we're left with some monstrosity like that monochrome crap or even worse that 'B' on that cap.
Tred bloody carefully
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Which is the badge "as it should be"?ClaretTony wrote: ↑Thu Jan 04, 2024 8:37 pmWe will see how long the badge as it should be remains on the shirt because it’s not just social media. Wouldn’t surprise me if they started removing the badge to get that hideous B on instead.
I'm sure I'm not the only one who thinks it should be this:
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They’ll never change the badge.
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Here’s Wikipedia’s list of ethnic slurs with “Yank” listed. You may not agree, and I’ll leave it there, but would politely ask if you could not use it.CoolClaret wrote: ↑Thu Jan 04, 2024 8:27 pmYank borderline racist - what race? Give over
Watford type with wanting multi club ownership, players as cattle etc.
Fonts for a one off game is one thing but what's this frigging horrid 'B' on a cap? It's horrific.
They already pushed it with the monochrome rubbish this year. What's next?
Sorry for wanting the club to remain with some unique identity, not just plastered with crypto crap and shoddy 'branding'
Https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_ethnic_slurs
I personally think we have multiple identities. The original badge, the BFC badge, the current one. It’s not like we’ve had the same identity forever.
A new logo to identify us in the current era isn’t something I find particularly offensive. Not that I’d like it to replace our permanent club crest, but I’m no more offended about it than I was when BFC badge appeared again on the back of the shirts a few years ago.
On that note, currently watching Everton and watching them play in their own font, using a modernised badge of just the Everton tower. Good job you don’t support them
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Couldn’t work out what that was, thanks for the info. Absolutely horrid kit Everton though!NewClaret wrote: ↑Thu Jan 04, 2024 8:53 pmHere’s Wikipedia’s list of ethnic slurs with “Yank” listed. You may not agree, and I’ll leave it there, but would politely ask if you could not use it.
Https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_ethnic_slurs
I personally think we have multiple identities. The original badge, the BFC badge, the current one. It’s not like we’ve had the same identity forever.
A new logo to identify us in the current era isn’t something I find particularly offensive. Not that I’d like it to replace our permanent club crest, but I’m no more offended about it than I was when BFC badge appeared again on the back of the shirts a few years ago.
On that note, currently watching Everton and watching them play in their own font, using a modernised badge of just the Everton tower. Good job you don’t support them
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What is is that bothers you then? I admire your passion about the club but when things like badges and fonts have been changed loads over the years does it all really matter, is the clubs identity not shown through the fans and players on match day and not what colour the club badge is on twitter or fpl
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Wrong one pal. CoolClaret will be along to moan about user names and ripping him off because I want to be him shortly…123EasyasBFC wrote: ↑Thu Jan 04, 2024 8:55 pmWhat is is that bothers you then? I admire your passion about the club but when things like badges and fonts have been changed loads over the years does it all really matter, is the clubs identity not shown through the fans and players on match day and not what colour the club badge is on twitter or fpl
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I could go on there and put your username as an ethnic slur.NewClaret wrote: ↑Thu Jan 04, 2024 8:53 pmHere’s Wikipedia’s list of ethnic slurs with “Yank” listed. You may not agree, and I’ll leave it there, but would politely ask if you could not use it.
Https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_ethnic_slurs
I personally think we have multiple identities. The original badge, the BFC badge, the current one. It’s not like we’ve had the same identity forever.
A new logo to identify us in the current era isn’t something I find particularly offensive. Not that I’d like it to replace our permanent club crest, but I’m no more offended about it than I was when BFC badge appeared again on the back of the shirts a few years ago.
On that note, currently watching Everton and watching them play in their own font, using a modernised badge of just the Everton tower. Good job you don’t support them
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Sorry, what do they call that famous baseball team that hails from the Bronx in New York? Give over manNewClaret wrote: ↑Thu Jan 04, 2024 8:53 pmHere’s Wikipedia’s list of ethnic slurs with “Yank” listed. You may not agree, and I’ll leave it there, but would politely ask if you could not use it.
Https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_ethnic_slurs
I personally think we have multiple identities. The original badge, the BFC badge, the current one. It’s not like we’ve had the same identity forever.
A new logo to identify us in the current era isn’t something I find particularly offensive. Not that I’d like it to replace our permanent club crest, but I’m no more offended about it than I was when BFC badge appeared again on the back of the shirts a few years ago.
On that note, currently watching Everton and watching them play in their own font, using a modernised badge of just the Everton tower. Good job you don’t support them
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They aren’t the club badges. We’ve only had two, introduced in 1974 and 2010.
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We have had more than 2 badges on kits though, so if it was ok in the 70s to have different badges on kits, there really isn’t an issue with having a different badge on social media or changing branding in my opinionClaretTony wrote: ↑Thu Jan 04, 2024 8:59 pmThey aren’t the club badges. We’ve only had two, introduced in 1974 and 2010.
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Sorry but Leeds fans begrudgingly to their credit unanimously rejected and caused an out roar when their ownership attempted a 'modernised' 'rebrand'.
Seems like our lot will just take anything now.
We're just so lucky to be owned by ex Wall st financiers (that bought the club with the clubs own money) aren't we?
Seems like our lot will just take anything now.
We're just so lucky to be owned by ex Wall st financiers (that bought the club with the clubs own money) aren't we?
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Thank you. I’ve pointed this out numerous times before but it seems to sail past the modsNewClaret wrote: ↑Thu Jan 04, 2024 8:23 pmIf we were heading in that direction we’d have sacked Kompany by now. Watford are a basket case and we’re nothing like them at all.
By the way, I won’t report your post as find that kind of stuff a bit silly without just calling it out directly to the poster, but I find the terms “Yank” and “Yankee” offensive and borderline racist. Given we have a number of US-based fans that post on here I for one would prefer you don’t use them.
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Feel free to.Newcastleclaret93 wrote: ↑Thu Jan 04, 2024 8:57 pmI could go on there and put your username as an ethnic slur.
I’d suggest it’s there for a reason, you can choose to disagree. I’m not debating it with you.
In any regard, I think we can all agree it’s a derogatory term (else CoolClaret wouldn’t have used it in that context - I don’t think he was seeking to be complimentary) and I don’t think a polite request to refrain from using it is unreasonable.
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Again appreciate anyone’s passion for the club but you are getting worked up over things that haven’t happened, if the official club badge stays the same we have been having different badges on shirts for years and many clubs have different badges on club shop items. Chairman is the only person who’s wears a cap with that B. It’s not in the shop it’s not anywhere, who is it really affecting him wearing thatCoolClaret wrote: ↑Thu Jan 04, 2024 9:02 pmSorry but Leeds fans begrudgingly to their credit unanimously rejected and caused an out roar when their ownership attempted a 'modernised' 'rebrand'.
Seems like our lot will just take anything now.
We're just so lucky to be owned by ex Wall st financiers (that bought the club with the clubs own money) aren't we?
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No worries mate. Like I say, plenty of US-based fans on here who should not have to read that stuff.CharlieinNewMexico wrote: ↑Thu Jan 04, 2024 9:04 pmThank you. I’ve pointed this out numerous times before but it seems to sail past the mods
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We didn’t have a badge or any identification on our shirts for a long time but we have had BFC on and various others but only two official club badges from 1974 to 2010 and from 2010 onwards.123EasyasBFC wrote: ↑Thu Jan 04, 2024 9:01 pmWe have had more than 2 badges on kits though, so if it was ok in the 70s to have different badges on kits, there really isn’t an issue with having a different badge on social media or changing branding in my opinion
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Sorry Tony, what do you mean by this?ClaretTony wrote: ↑Thu Jan 04, 2024 8:59 pmThey aren’t the club badges. We’ve only had two, introduced in 1974 and 2010.
Edit: just read above, apologies.
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So we have had ‘BFC’ as a long on the shirt and then 2 others which means we haven’t had the same badge throughout history to keep our identity and branding the sameClaretTony wrote: ↑Thu Jan 04, 2024 9:06 pmWe didn’t have a badge or any identification on our shirts for a long time but we have had BFC on and various others but only two official club badges from 1974 to 2010 and from 2010 onwards.
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If it's 'offensive' then I do apologise.CharlieinNewMexico wrote: ↑Thu Jan 04, 2024 9:04 pmThank you. I’ve pointed this out numerous times before but it seems to sail past the mods
It's also the nickname for arguably the biggest sports team in the world - how else would you have me refer to more American culture/ideas?
'American nonsense' sounds just as bad, no?
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Imagine this thread if our owners did a Sunderland
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Not sure what you are asking. We didn’t have a club badge until 1974 - prior to that we’d had nothing on the shirts or the county borough coat of arms or a BFC. We introduced the official club badge in 1974 but it wasn’t on the shirts immediately. That remained the official club badge until 2010 when the current one was introduced.
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CoolClaret wrote: ↑Thu Jan 04, 2024 8:44 pmWhy not just change the colours completely then?
Hey why not bin Turf Moor off - nothing matters apparently
Wow. Absolute meltdown over numbers.
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It doesn't seem much of a slur. Not dissimilar from calling a British person a Tommy.Newcastleclaret93 wrote: ↑Thu Jan 04, 2024 8:57 pmI could go on there and put your username as an ethnic slur.
On the other hand, not included on the list are muricans, rednecks, Scousers or victims. Tottenham fans get a special mention, though.
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Yes, sorry, you’d answered it above.ClaretTony wrote: ↑Thu Jan 04, 2024 9:10 pmNot sure what you are asking. We didn’t have a club badge until 1974 - prior to that we’d had nothing on the shirts or the county borough coat of arms or a BFC. We introduced the official club badge in 1974 but it wasn’t on the shirts immediately. That remained the official club badge until 2010 when the current one was introduced.
I was sure we’d had badges/crests on shirts before then. Not that I was born
Off to do my research.
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Not really - I was just taking the posters statement to it's logical extreme.
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Maybe just ease off the conspiracy theories until there is something hard to go at.CoolClaret wrote: ↑Thu Jan 04, 2024 9:09 pmIf it's 'offensive' then I do apologise.
It's also the nickname for arguably the biggest sports team in the world - how else would you have me refer to more American culture/ideas?
'American nonsense' sounds just as bad, no?
I asked the other day, but you must’ve missed it; do you have a personal issue with the current owners?
You seem to hammer anything and everything the club puts forward atm.
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So the question is when they became “official”?ClaretTony wrote: ↑Thu Jan 04, 2024 9:13 pmAs I’ve said, we did, but we never had an official club badge until 1974.
What’s the criteria for them being considered so?
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IIRC it was originally only meant to be for the 50th anniversary season but with us being promoted and going “worldwide” the club decided to stick with it (albeit replacing the Latin with Burnley Football Club)ClaretTony wrote: ↑Thu Jan 04, 2024 9:10 pmNot sure what you are asking. We didn’t have a club badge until 1974 - prior to that we’d had nothing on the shirts or the county borough coat of arms or a BFC. We introduced the official club badge in 1974 but it wasn’t on the shirts immediately. That remained the official club badge until 2010 when the current one was introduced.
In all honesty, I don’t mind the monochrome versions of the badge. They look a lot clearer and the coloured version wouldn’t look right on some of our kits
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What conspiracy theory?Cooclaret wrote: ↑Thu Jan 04, 2024 9:14 pmMaybe just ease off the conspiracy theories until there is something hard to go at.
I asked the other day, but you must’ve missed it; do you have a personal issue with the current owners?
You seem to hammer anything and everything the club puts forward atm.
Yeah I dislike the model that the club is operating on completely.
Not a fan of it one jot - on multiple fronts.
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No problem. Like I say, much prefer to call these things out directly than hide behind a report button and place the burden on Tony.CoolClaret wrote: ↑Thu Jan 04, 2024 9:09 pmIf it's 'offensive' then I do apologise.
It's also the nickname for arguably the biggest sports team in the world - how else would you have me refer to more American culture/ideas?
'American nonsense' sounds just as bad, no?
You’re an articulate chap, I’m sure you can find a way to express your dislike for American culture without using specific terms.
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I've also pointed out it's offensive a few times. Plus I've reported posts. Can we stop with the discrimination against Americans? It's possible to be critical without being offensive. We have lots of American posters on here.
Besides, most of what's been said is not indicative of American culture or business and is based on a stereotype created years ago. Things move on and I'd urge anyone who has a negative view to spend some time in the USA and with American people before passing judgement. They can be the most polite, kind and welcoming people around yet at the same time some oafs on here paint us British as a nation of hate and discrimination.
Besides, most of what's been said is not indicative of American culture or business and is based on a stereotype created years ago. Things move on and I'd urge anyone who has a negative view to spend some time in the USA and with American people before passing judgement. They can be the most polite, kind and welcoming people around yet at the same time some oafs on here paint us British as a nation of hate and discrimination.
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Changes of badges, branding, eradication of the club culture and history.CoolClaret wrote: ↑Thu Jan 04, 2024 9:17 pmWhat conspiracy theory?
Yeah I dislike the model that the club is operating on completely.
Not a fan of it one jot - on multiple fronts.
What do you dislike? The modernisation? The funding that has been sought? The progressive approach to recruitment in playing and coaching staff? Expanding the brand of the club internationally?
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All disputable and been done to death (being relegated by january is anything but progressive)Cooclaret wrote: ↑Thu Jan 04, 2024 9:19 pmChanges of badges, branding, eradication of the club culture and history.
What do you dislike? The modernisation? The funding that has been sought? The progressive approach to recruitment in playing and coaching staff? Expanding the brand of the club internationally?
Dislike the model of operation, the profit of all cost approach amongst other things but that's for another thread
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It’s a quick thing to do is to blame the Americans, when the club wear changing fonts and logos on shirts way before the new owners came in, it just gets highlighted more when things aren’t going well on the fieldsuperdimitri wrote: ↑Thu Jan 04, 2024 9:19 pmI've also pointed out it's offensive a few times. Plus I've reported posts. Can we stop with the discrimination against Americans? It's possible to be critical without being offensive. We have lots of American posters on here.
Besides, most of what's been said is not indicative of American culture or business and is based on a stereotype created years ago. Things move on and I'd urge anyone who has a negative view to spend some time in the USA and with American people before passing judgement. They can be the most polite, kind and welcoming people around yet at the same time some oafs on here paint us British as a nation of hate and discrimination.
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Christ on a bikeCoolClaret wrote: ↑Thu Jan 04, 2024 9:22 pmAll disputable and been done to death (being relegated by january is anything but progressive)
Dislike the model of operation, the profit of all cost approach amongst other things but that's for another thread
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It’s lazy.123EasyasBFC wrote: ↑Thu Jan 04, 2024 9:22 pmIt’s a quick thing to do is to blame the Americans, when the club wear changing fonts and logos on shirts way before the new owners came in, it just gets highlighted more when things aren’t going well on the field
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I mean listen JJ Watt on the Pat Mcaffee show. It’s cringe worthy to listen tosuperdimitri wrote: ↑Thu Jan 04, 2024 9:19 pmI've also pointed out it's offensive a few times. Plus I've reported posts. Can we stop with the discrimination against Americans? It's possible to be critical without being offensive. We have lots of American posters on here.
Besides, most of what's been said is not indicative of American culture or business and is based on a stereotype created years ago. Things move on and I'd urge anyone who has a negative view to spend some time in the USA and with American people before passing judgement. They can be the most polite, kind and welcoming people around yet at the same time some oafs on here paint us British as a nation of hate and discrimination.
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Nobody is forcing you to listen to him, it’s for a select audience, you can turn it off if you don’t like itNewcastleclaret93 wrote: ↑Thu Jan 04, 2024 9:26 pmI mean listen JJ Watt on the Pat Mcaffee show. It’s cringe worthy to listen to
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I like a lot about America, love a lot about Americans as you say friendly and welcoming and the 'can do' attitude.superdimitri wrote: ↑Thu Jan 04, 2024 9:19 pmI've also pointed out it's offensive a few times. Plus I've reported posts. Can we stop with the discrimination against Americans? It's possible to be critical without being offensive. We have lots of American posters on here.
Besides, most of what's been said is not indicative of American culture or business and is based on a stereotype created years ago. Things move on and I'd urge anyone who has a negative view to spend some time in the USA and with American people before passing judgement. They can be the most polite, kind and welcoming people around yet at the same time some oafs on here paint us British as a nation of hate and discrimination.
For me the corporate/busness culture leaves a lot to be desired, as does a lot of the politics and I think it's fair to say that the role professional sport plays over there is very different and has a different model to what Association Football in England does - that's fair, no?
Again - I didn't think Yank or Yankee is particularly 'offensive' - pointing to the fact that it's the nickname for arguably the biggest sports team in the world, happy to be wrong on that of course.
My only concerns are Burnley Football Club losing it's identity, which I am in fear of.
I do not want the club to be a completely run-of-the-mill sanitised type, which I think we are slowly morphing into.